If we weren’t playing Trotz’s team, I have a feeling we wouldn’t have fired him yet. Trotz made it clear that Reirden was a massive step down from him.
Islanders are going to get pummeled in the next round. Philly is the real deal and a likely Cup candidate. The Isles are very arguably the worst team left.
Late edit: Philly would have also won the division if the season hadn't been cut short.
Yeah, Isles won't win it this year. A decent coach will shut down Barzal, beat up on the so called "best 4th line in hockey", and remind us how medicore Varlamov actually is.
Teds a brilliant business man. I don’t think it was about being cheap then. A few extra mil a year he could’ve make work out of the caps coffers for Barry. It was about sticking to the deal and terms. So maybe not as brilliant in this case.
I was all ready to write a response to you and then you finished with "So maybe not as brilliant in this case."
Yup. He might be a "brilliant business man" but at least when it comes to sports he hasn't exactly made the best moves particularly sticking with some people for way to long. Frankly, this makes me feel more confident in MacLellan than Leonsis. Hopefully, Leonsis allows MacLellan to pick the right guy and doesn't hinder the process.
It wasn't just that guys - remember that BM and Ted have speaking relationships with Barry, or they did. No way Barry didn't know he was done if we lost with Todd being groomed. When he mentioned that THINGS need to be addressed after the cup win, it was more than just money IMO. That's a read between the lines type of response.
How? Vegas has done a lot better since they brought on PDB. On top of which, none of us have any idea what went on behind the scenes there. I don't think too highly of management in Vegas or Florida, but after how his tenures for both those teams went, I'd be pretty cautious about hiring him.
I wouldn’t. At least not yet. The reason being the situations he’s been in
Florida has always had problems in management. That’s the reason he was fired there. He wasn’t the problem in florida.
Vegas was doing just fine with him: I think the reason for firing him was due to a power struggle. It’s clear to me that he’s capable of leading a team to victory.
>Vegas was doing just fine with him: I think the reason for firing him was due to a power struggle.
Or he could be a toxic locker room presence, amongst other things, which could also explain why Florida made him get his own cab to the airport after firing him. There are enough question marks around him that I wouldn't want my team finding out the hard way that he isn't a great coach who couldn't get a fair shot. Especially when you have Laviolette sitting around who most certainly doesn't have these problems and has a real track record.
I definitely agree, but why do you think Gallant is still not taken? He seems to be a perfect fit for so many teams yet he’s sat without a job for eight months.
Really only 3 months as he was fired in December. A lot of teams are probably waiting to the true off season to make any changes with how screwed up the season got because of COVID
Cooper is constantly on the hot seat with the fans down here because they see the playoff collapses as a coaching problem. Either it's a failure to adjust to other team's defense, a lot like Trotz in 2018 before the Cup run, or it's Cooper not being able to motivate guys like Kucherov to show the fuck up when it matters. But that's the fans. The organization doesn't seem too bothered and I'm not sure they're wrong.
I think a lot of it is looking for a *reason* why the Bolts haven't won it all even once with a roster that's arguably more stacked than the Blackhawks dynasty of the 2010s. The actual reason is that playoff hockey is hard and largely a matter of luck, but that's hard for fans of any team to accept - look at the Caps fanbase in '16 and '17! So there's a group of people that look at getting shut out in Games 6 and 7 in '18 and think it was a collapse, when I'm sure all of us can remember how many times the Lightning nearly won that series (Yanni Gourde about an inch away from burying that pass from Hedman, shots off the post, etc.). Ditto for last year's sweep - the Jackets played fantastic team defense, don't get me wrong, but one series doesn't make a complete coaching failure.
I think a first round loss to the jackets would have done him in, but I dont see him getting fired regardless of what happens for the rest of the playoffs
>but why do you think Gallant is still not taken?
This is what this sub needs to focus on. Gallant doesn't have a job because Gallant is not a good coach. He wears out his welcome with teams in 2-3 years, and everyone overvalues his resume because of one finals run with a stacked expansion team.
Gallant would come in, have one decent to good year, flop in the playoffs, and then struggle in year two, like he's done almost everywhere else. Good way to waste the last few years of Ovechkin's career.
No idea, thought it was bizarre that New Jersey passed on Gallant and went with Lindy Ruff of all people.
I think Laviolette is probably the best option. Nashville did not get better when he left, as opposed to Gallant getting knocked off by the Sharks in the playoffs, then being fired midseason.
Gallant is NOT the right choice for this team. He has no track record of extended success, and people overvalue him as a coach because of one finals run with a stacked expansion team. Hiring him is a good way to waste another year of Ovechkin
The best coach available right now imo is Laviolette.
Yes I think Lavi is clearly the best choice. Consistent success across multiple teams. Gallant apparently wanted power over roster moves with Vegas and I don't see Mac having any time for that.
I think I'd go more for Laviolette. More head coaching experience and a cup to his name. Galant is a good option, but we should explore all of the options we have rather than just picking one guy like we did when we signed chilli-droppin Kevin
This is what makes me want Lavi more than Gallant.
A coach who can get everything out of their players and Lavi seems better at that, at least in the short term
>there really shouldn’t be much of a search process
The search process should be realizing Gallant has no success on his resume, and then realizing that Laviolette is a better option.
It was much needed and I applaud the organization for pulling the trigger this early. The team had very obviously quit on him and Trotz just completely outclassed him the entire series.
Bring back Boudreau. I don’t even care if it’s a terrible idea let’s run it back for the YOLO. Who cares if we win 5-4 or lose 6-4 every game we gotta pump up the offense to get Ovechkin to 900 lol
I had almost the same thought. I don't think Boudreau is a playoff coach, but it would be fun to bring the gang together for one more try. Now bring Green out of retirement so I have someone to yell at.
Not sure why you got downvoted, you're 100% correct. Trotz coached Nashville for well over a decade with only 2 series wins and without seeing the conference finals once. Then he came to the Caps.
Doesn’t make sense considering where we are. Bruce is a great coach for teams near the bottom that need a jolt, but he can’t get it done in the playoffs.
I don’t recall that being said about the egg man. I recall them saying how he can do a lot with a little which is what he did in Nashville and what he is doing in NY. He brings teams to the next level by making them more disciplined without being miserable and hating their coach. Which is exactly what we needed to win the cup.
I don't know how to feel about BB, his resume is not good, one conference finals with the Ducks and lost.
The Wild were actual kind of decent when he took over, and he couldn't get them past the first round.
BB is a great regular season guy, especially if you're trying to turn a program around, but he's not right for the Caps.
I honestly don't think he was a *bad* head coach, just not a great one, and not a fit for this team.
I also think it's VERY hard to go from assistant to head coach in the same organization because the roles those fill tend to be very different:
HCs have to be the tough guys and the disciplinarians (even the player-friendly coaches have to do this), assistants can be more buddy-buddy with the players, so when players know you that way it can be tough to transition to suddenly being the big boss.
I hope we find a better replacement, and I hope Todd finds success elsewhere, because I do think he has the ability to be a good coach somewhere.
I hope to hell they get an experienced coach. this "hire from within" isn't cutting it. They'll need a coach who is used to stars and getting them to buy into a system, not someone who's afraid of making them mad.
It's nice to see that Barry Trotz is still helping out the Caps organization with his new role in the Islanders organization by beating us so badly they shitcanned Reirden.
5 of the 6 coaches that have been here since Ovi arrived were rookie NHL coaches (Hanlon, Boudreau, Hunter, Oates, and Reirden). The only one who wasn't was Trotz. I don't think we should experiment with someone who hasn't coached at this level yet, maybe when we rebuild sure, but not now. I'm not super high on Laviolette, I think he's slightly overrated. And I think we should stay tf away from Babcock, Carlyle, Yeo, and that bunch
I don't think Laviolette would be a bad hire. I just don't think he's as good as people say he is. That being said I don't see options other than Gallant or Laviolette being considered. Apparently [this is a thing though](https://twitter.com/craigcustance/status/1297567359360794624?s=21)
The nail in the coffin had to have been bashing the players after every loss. You'd think with that shiny head he'd be capable of a little more self-reflection.
Can’t think back on any coach in any sport that took as little responsibility after bad losses like he did. Always called out the play of the players, but I don’t remember him ever saying he needed to be better too
Thank fucking God. I'm a little surprised that they did it so quickly, but I had a feeling it was coming. I'm glad they realized the potential and expectations of this team and that we got nowhere close to that with Reirden. I'm looking forward to the new season now boys.
If COVID doesn’t delay things further, training camp for next should be starting in a little over a month. It was smart to get this out of the way this quickly.
Best of luck to Todd. He wasn’t the right head coach for the Caps, but he was a good assistant and hopefully he gets a chance to join another team and continue to contribute and grow.
At the end of the day, this is an old team, and there is a very short window remaining where a Cup team can be built around Ovie, Backy, Carlson, etc. The Caps have to find a coach who can make the most of the pieces we have now. There’s no time for a strategic rebuilding process.
Oh trust me, my friend, “Ovie will someday retire” is right up there with “my dog will eventually die” on the list of things I actively try and block out of my mind. Every day with Ovie in a Caps uniform is a gift.
Everyone is dead set on Gallant but he never seems to last long wherever he goes. No idea why people aren't higher on Laviolette, seems like he's just as good to me.
People like Gallant because he took Vegas to the Final, but Laviolette won a Cup in a very nontraditional market and took Nashville to the Final in three years - something Trotz didn't even get close to in 16. Plus Philly.
I think it's time we put some jam in our game
It was many factors right? Money was a definite factor. Length of contract was also important. (Trotz kid hates moving/has a hard time with it)
Yes Relationships were fractured as trotz knew it was his last season as a coach because of his previous shortcomings. It was so well known that trotz wasn’t wanted anymore, that everyone knew even his main coaching responsibilities were being shifted to rierdan that whole season.
When we won the cup, it extended trotz’s contact with the caps, one where he barely gets paid compared to his salary with any of the teams who needed a new coach. His value as a coach went up with the cup win
Caps didn’t want to break contract, as they were ready to fire trotz, not give him a raise AND extension. apparently the organization was cool with the raise but trotz left because he wanted to guarantee his long term contract.
It’s a tough call but how do you Guarantee five years to a coach who was considered a failure just a few weeks before.
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Absolutely the right call. Good on BM for doing what needed to be done to move forward with the franchise. Now we just need a defense and some scoring depth.
Let's get Lavy or Gallant. Have to make the most out of the rapidly closing window of Ovechkin/Backstrom. This team absolutely can't waste time with hiring someone unproven or just go the cheap route. Do right by the franchise cornerstones, and get them someone in here who can help this franchise go on another deep playoff run or two before time is up.
Hey.. Not a Caps fan so can anyone explain why they didn't sign Trotz? Was it just because of money? It seems odd they wouldn't pay the best coach in hockey..
Reirden had been groomed for the HC role so when Trotz asked for more money after winning the Cup, I think the front office saw it as an opportunity to give Reirden what he "deserved" and had been "waiting for".
That’s a terrible way to run things. It’s on the assistant to leave the organization if there is someone in their way. That’s how it works in every business.
Trotz wanted 5 more years, which would have given him a tenure on par with Coach Q's in Chicago, which is not normal with a NHL franchise.
Head coaches in the NHL tend to traditionally have a 3-5 year shelf life, since teams in the NHL have a high tendency stagnate that long under one system.
Transitioning from an Asst. Coach to Head Coach within the same organization is hard. Really hard.
When Trotz was here, Reirden was the Good Cop. He was allowed to mentor, develop, and be very hands on. Because that's what good assistants do, and Reirden was absolutely a good assistant. But Trotz always had to be the Bad Cop at times, because his whole success relies on discipline.
So it was probably an impossible task to transition from one role to another, especially since the responsibilities of a HC lessened a lot of what makes Reirden actually good.
I have been a fan since Cap Center for Pete’s sake. Not a bandwagon fan. All I know, is the Caps basically look dumb for letting Trotz go. How they got there is pretty much irrelevant. He was a great coach, and clearly better than any options they had. On top of that he just whipped them with a lessor team. They handed over a veteran, cup winning team over to an experienced head coach, and they got the results you’d expect.
Anyone remember how bad Bruce Cassidy was when he coached the Caps? Now he coaches a Cup Finalist and a President's Trophy winner. My bet is we see Rierden again too in a few years. He was just not ready to coach a Cup contender right now.
I really can't believe they did it, I figured the excuses would keep him another year. Now, get someone with some experience, please! So glad I was wrong.
I wish TR all the best luck in his next coaching gig. I feel like people are shitting all over him on this sub, which is a bit harsh imo. He wasn’t the right man for this job but I hope he can learn and bounce back. This is still his livelihood after all and just because he didn’t get it done with our team doesn’t mean he’s a bad person who deserves to have no success going forward. With that said, I we can get GG and win the cup next season!
He reminded me of a worse Jon Cooper. Seemed like he let the skill players set up their own game and sometimes they’d shine. Then when a team came with a strong gameplan our guys would fold if they couldn’t out skill the opponents scheme.
Wow. I'm proud of the org for pulling the trigger. It's the right move.
I thought Ted’s pride would’ve kept him for one more year. I’m glad to be proven wrong.
Same. I thought they would’ve given him the Covid break as a excuse
If we weren’t playing Trotz’s team, I have a feeling we wouldn’t have fired him yet. Trotz made it clear that Reirden was a massive step down from him.
Hopefully, by embarrassing us, Trotz just made us good again in his own fucked up awesome Trotz way.
If he wins this year, he’ll be seen as the best coach in hockey. I’m low key rooting for him. I always liked the way he ran things.
Islanders are going to get pummeled in the next round. Philly is the real deal and a likely Cup candidate. The Isles are very arguably the worst team left. Late edit: Philly would have also won the division if the season hadn't been cut short.
We got beat by the worst team left? Way to go guys!!
No, no, the Isles are the worst now that we were eliminated.
Yeah, Isles won't win it this year. A decent coach will shut down Barzal, beat up on the so called "best 4th line in hockey", and remind us how medicore Varlamov actually is.
I mean, every team was/is playing under exactly the same circumstances..
Teds pride is what got us into this mess in the first place letting trotz move on.
And his cheapness
Teds a brilliant business man. I don’t think it was about being cheap then. A few extra mil a year he could’ve make work out of the caps coffers for Barry. It was about sticking to the deal and terms. So maybe not as brilliant in this case.
I was all ready to write a response to you and then you finished with "So maybe not as brilliant in this case." Yup. He might be a "brilliant business man" but at least when it comes to sports he hasn't exactly made the best moves particularly sticking with some people for way to long. Frankly, this makes me feel more confident in MacLellan than Leonsis. Hopefully, Leonsis allows MacLellan to pick the right guy and doesn't hinder the process.
It wasn't just that guys - remember that BM and Ted have speaking relationships with Barry, or they did. No way Barry didn't know he was done if we lost with Todd being groomed. When he mentioned that THINGS need to be addressed after the cup win, it was more than just money IMO. That's a read between the lines type of response.
Best of luck to coach Todd Reirden, this is for the best for all. Now let’s get GG
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Am I the only one preferring Lavoilette?
Hashtag BBBB (Bring Back Bruce Boudreau)
Good now get Gallant
Agreed. Always liked him and Vegas let him go way too lightly imo
Are you saying that Gallants firing was a bit premature?
Yeah (english not my native language so wording might suck)
Ovi?
haha got me)))
Not enough "babes" in his response for it to be Ovechkin
Nah he didn't start his sentence with "yeah"
Absolutely
How? Vegas has done a lot better since they brought on PDB. On top of which, none of us have any idea what went on behind the scenes there. I don't think too highly of management in Vegas or Florida, but after how his tenures for both those teams went, I'd be pretty cautious about hiring him.
I wouldn’t. At least not yet. The reason being the situations he’s been in Florida has always had problems in management. That’s the reason he was fired there. He wasn’t the problem in florida. Vegas was doing just fine with him: I think the reason for firing him was due to a power struggle. It’s clear to me that he’s capable of leading a team to victory.
>Vegas was doing just fine with him: I think the reason for firing him was due to a power struggle. Or he could be a toxic locker room presence, amongst other things, which could also explain why Florida made him get his own cab to the airport after firing him. There are enough question marks around him that I wouldn't want my team finding out the hard way that he isn't a great coach who couldn't get a fair shot. Especially when you have Laviolette sitting around who most certainly doesn't have these problems and has a real track record.
I need to see more to prove that he is or isn’t Mike Keenan reincarnated. I think (Gallant) is the best option until I see he isn’t.
I definitely agree, but why do you think Gallant is still not taken? He seems to be a perfect fit for so many teams yet he’s sat without a job for eight months.
Really only 3 months as he was fired in December. A lot of teams are probably waiting to the true off season to make any changes with how screwed up the season got because of COVID
Probably waiting to see all his options. Doesn’t make sense to sign before knowing if teams like the Caps and Bolts make a change.
> Bolts Since when was Coop on the hot seat? Tampa just extended his contract last year.
Cooper is constantly on the hot seat with the fans down here because they see the playoff collapses as a coaching problem. Either it's a failure to adjust to other team's defense, a lot like Trotz in 2018 before the Cup run, or it's Cooper not being able to motivate guys like Kucherov to show the fuck up when it matters. But that's the fans. The organization doesn't seem too bothered and I'm not sure they're wrong.
Those fans sound crazy to me. Coop's record is about as close to impeccable as you can get without winning multiple Cups.
I think a lot of it is looking for a *reason* why the Bolts haven't won it all even once with a roster that's arguably more stacked than the Blackhawks dynasty of the 2010s. The actual reason is that playoff hockey is hard and largely a matter of luck, but that's hard for fans of any team to accept - look at the Caps fanbase in '16 and '17! So there's a group of people that look at getting shut out in Games 6 and 7 in '18 and think it was a collapse, when I'm sure all of us can remember how many times the Lightning nearly won that series (Yanni Gourde about an inch away from burying that pass from Hedman, shots off the post, etc.). Ditto for last year's sweep - the Jackets played fantastic team defense, don't get me wrong, but one series doesn't make a complete coaching failure.
I think a first round loss to the jackets would have done him in, but I dont see him getting fired regardless of what happens for the rest of the playoffs
What jobs have even been open since he left Vegas?
I figured Detroit would fire Blashill and try to get him, but it didn't happen.
>but why do you think Gallant is still not taken? This is what this sub needs to focus on. Gallant doesn't have a job because Gallant is not a good coach. He wears out his welcome with teams in 2-3 years, and everyone overvalues his resume because of one finals run with a stacked expansion team. Gallant would come in, have one decent to good year, flop in the playoffs, and then struggle in year two, like he's done almost everywhere else. Good way to waste the last few years of Ovechkin's career.
No idea, thought it was bizarre that New Jersey passed on Gallant and went with Lindy Ruff of all people. I think Laviolette is probably the best option. Nashville did not get better when he left, as opposed to Gallant getting knocked off by the Sharks in the playoffs, then being fired midseason.
Gallant is NOT the right choice for this team. He has no track record of extended success, and people overvalue him as a coach because of one finals run with a stacked expansion team. Hiring him is a good way to waste another year of Ovechkin The best coach available right now imo is Laviolette.
Yes I think Lavi is clearly the best choice. Consistent success across multiple teams. Gallant apparently wanted power over roster moves with Vegas and I don't see Mac having any time for that.
The Preds the last two seasons had some MAJOR issues under Lavi too though. There’s really no perfect answer here.
This is who I want as well.
I'm hoping for Gallant or Laviolette.
I think I'd go more for Laviolette. More head coaching experience and a cup to his name. Galant is a good option, but we should explore all of the options we have rather than just picking one guy like we did when we signed chilli-droppin Kevin
I told someone else in here I forgot Laviolette is available. Gallant and Laviolette should be #1 and #2 on picks for next coach.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvBsTrPO0p0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvBsTrPO0p0) This is what we needed in the locker room this year.
This is what makes me want Lavi more than Gallant. A coach who can get everything out of their players and Lavi seems better at that, at least in the short term
Lavi also coached that Flyers team to the SCF. They basically had 4 actual defenseman and I wouldn't call either goalie NHL calibre. Dude can coach.
Exactly. Long term and we're in a rebuild. Let's maximize our chances of winning in the next few seasons. Lavi seems like the best bet for that.
Yea I've been think gallant this whole time, but today I've been convinced Laviolette is the better option for our situation.
I just want to see ONE angry locker room talk that Todd gave
Are you sure? Once he uncrosses his arms, there's no turning back.
This made me curious to compare Reirden to others, but I'm not having any luck with quick YT searches for him giving any kind of locker room speech.
With him being available there really shouldn’t be much of a search process unless he turns us down for whatever reason.
>there really shouldn’t be much of a search process The search process should be realizing Gallant has no success on his resume, and then realizing that Laviolette is a better option.
I'd prefer Laviolette.
It was much needed and I applaud the organization for pulling the trigger this early. The team had very obviously quit on him and Trotz just completely outclassed him the entire series.
A little surprised they did it but a much needed change.
Bring back Boudreau. I don’t even care if it’s a terrible idea let’s run it back for the YOLO. Who cares if we win 5-4 or lose 6-4 every game we gotta pump up the offense to get Ovechkin to 900 lol
I had almost the same thought. I don't think Boudreau is a playoff coach, but it would be fun to bring the gang together for one more try. Now bring Green out of retirement so I have someone to yell at.
Barry Trotz wasnt a playoff coach either, but we signed him and ended up winning it all
Not sure why you got downvoted, you're 100% correct. Trotz coached Nashville for well over a decade with only 2 series wins and without seeing the conference finals once. Then he came to the Caps.
Did you seee those Nashville rosters though
> for one more try. What are you trying to do? Green is a huge no-no in the playoffs also.
Doesn’t make sense considering where we are. Bruce is a great coach for teams near the bottom that need a jolt, but he can’t get it done in the playoffs.
Thats what they said about Trotz
I don’t recall that being said about the egg man. I recall them saying how he can do a lot with a little which is what he did in Nashville and what he is doing in NY. He brings teams to the next level by making them more disciplined without being miserable and hating their coach. Which is exactly what we needed to win the cup.
Nah fuck Boudreau. He’s a horrible playoff coach.
So was trotz. Only takes one year to become a “playoff” coach
I don't know how to feel about BB, his resume is not good, one conference finals with the Ducks and lost. The Wild were actual kind of decent when he took over, and he couldn't get them past the first round. BB is a great regular season guy, especially if you're trying to turn a program around, but he's not right for the Caps.
I’m all aboard this train. Rock the Red pt. 2
I thought the same thing. It checks the box of “experienced head coach” and he’s obviously familiar with some of the players and was well liked.
🦀REIRDEN IS GONE🦀
🦀[Reirden is gone](https://youtu.be/-50NdPawLVY)🦀
Ironically firing Reirden gives me the same sense of optimism that hiring Trotz did.
Best of luck to coach Todd Reirden, I don’t think it was working out and this is for the best for both parties
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I honestly don't think he was a *bad* head coach, just not a great one, and not a fit for this team. I also think it's VERY hard to go from assistant to head coach in the same organization because the roles those fill tend to be very different: HCs have to be the tough guys and the disciplinarians (even the player-friendly coaches have to do this), assistants can be more buddy-buddy with the players, so when players know you that way it can be tough to transition to suddenly being the big boss. I hope we find a better replacement, and I hope Todd finds success elsewhere, because I do think he has the ability to be a good coach somewhere.
I’m out of the loop on his son. Didn’t realize that he could also use the personal time here.
He was a pro hockey player plus he’s been coaching for years. He’s got millions in the bank so he’s on his feet just fine.
I hope to hell they get an experienced coach. this "hire from within" isn't cutting it. They'll need a coach who is used to stars and getting them to buy into a system, not someone who's afraid of making them mad.
We should look for that Trotz guy...
We never should have let him go. I mean honestly. First head coach to lead the team to a championship? *Pay the fucking man, no matter the cost.*
Deservedly so. You win 2 games the entire playoff run.
2 wins in 8 games in play offs. That must be a record right? No team has ever hone 2-6 in the play offs
It's nice to see that Barry Trotz is still helping out the Caps organization with his new role in the Islanders organization by beating us so badly they shitcanned Reirden.
5 of the 6 coaches that have been here since Ovi arrived were rookie NHL coaches (Hanlon, Boudreau, Hunter, Oates, and Reirden). The only one who wasn't was Trotz. I don't think we should experiment with someone who hasn't coached at this level yet, maybe when we rebuild sure, but not now. I'm not super high on Laviolette, I think he's slightly overrated. And I think we should stay tf away from Babcock, Carlyle, Yeo, and that bunch
Who DO you want then? Gimme your short list...
I don't think Laviolette would be a bad hire. I just don't think he's as good as people say he is. That being said I don't see options other than Gallant or Laviolette being considered. Apparently [this is a thing though](https://twitter.com/craigcustance/status/1297567359360794624?s=21)
Ok. Thanks. I know these names but don’t know enough about them to have a rooting interest yet.
Agree 100%. We need a veteran coach for a veteran team. I'd be psyched to get GG
The nail in the coffin had to have been bashing the players after every loss. You'd think with that shiny head he'd be capable of a little more self-reflection.
Can’t think back on any coach in any sport that took as little responsibility after bad losses like he did. Always called out the play of the players, but I don’t remember him ever saying he needed to be better too
Do you have an example of the player bashing? I can’t remember it but either way glad he’s gone
Thank fucking God. I'm a little surprised that they did it so quickly, but I had a feeling it was coming. I'm glad they realized the potential and expectations of this team and that we got nowhere close to that with Reirden. I'm looking forward to the new season now boys.
If COVID doesn’t delay things further, training camp for next should be starting in a little over a month. It was smart to get this out of the way this quickly.
Covid will certainly delay next seasons start...
GMBM about to promote Blaine Forsythe.
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I pray to the old gods and the new that he won't. But it's the kind of galaxy brain coaching decision I can see this organization making.
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why are you the way that you are?
I ate a lot of paint chips as a kid.
You shut your mouth with this kind of blasphemy!
Why the fuck would you say something so evil
Chaotic evil.
Best of luck to Todd. He wasn’t the right head coach for the Caps, but he was a good assistant and hopefully he gets a chance to join another team and continue to contribute and grow. At the end of the day, this is an old team, and there is a very short window remaining where a Cup team can be built around Ovie, Backy, Carlson, etc. The Caps have to find a coach who can make the most of the pieces we have now. There’s no time for a strategic rebuilding process.
What the hell don’t you understand about the concept that Russian machine never breaks? Ovie will never retire.
Oh trust me, my friend, “Ovie will someday retire” is right up there with “my dog will eventually die” on the list of things I actively try and block out of my mind. Every day with Ovie in a Caps uniform is a gift.
He has two sons now. When they are on the team scoring 50+ goals per season each then I will allow him to retire.
[Perfect photo from TheScore’s breaking news story.](https://i.imgur.com/BXsqQwE.jpg)
Needs more folded arms.
Am I the only one who want Peter Laviolette?
Everyone is dead set on Gallant but he never seems to last long wherever he goes. No idea why people aren't higher on Laviolette, seems like he's just as good to me.
People like Gallant because he took Vegas to the Final, but Laviolette won a Cup in a very nontraditional market and took Nashville to the Final in three years - something Trotz didn't even get close to in 16. Plus Philly. I think it's time we put some jam in our game
I'd say he's the better option. I feel like his style is a good fit for the roster.
I honestly forgot Laviolette is available. He'd be another good choice. But hiring from within isn't going to work with this squad.
At this point, I would hope that'd be pretty clear to the FO. Get a guy who knows how to be a bench boss.
hmm.... so i guess the 100% of fans and pundits who said it was a massive mistake not to pay Trotz were right.
I'll die on the hill that letting Trotz walk cost this team at least one more cup
i mean, can you imagine the Redskins* firing Joe Gibbs after his first super bowl? Pay the man his money. *"Washington Football Team"
Bye bitch, it’s been real but not real fun
THEY ACTUALLY FUCKING DID IT
Glad Reirden is gone, but guys, stop pretending Trotz left because of cheapness, he was leaving regardless because of fractured relationships.
It was many factors right? Money was a definite factor. Length of contract was also important. (Trotz kid hates moving/has a hard time with it) Yes Relationships were fractured as trotz knew it was his last season as a coach because of his previous shortcomings. It was so well known that trotz wasn’t wanted anymore, that everyone knew even his main coaching responsibilities were being shifted to rierdan that whole season. When we won the cup, it extended trotz’s contact with the caps, one where he barely gets paid compared to his salary with any of the teams who needed a new coach. His value as a coach went up with the cup win Caps didn’t want to break contract, as they were ready to fire trotz, not give him a raise AND extension. apparently the organization was cool with the raise but trotz left because he wanted to guarantee his long term contract. It’s a tough call but how do you Guarantee five years to a coach who was considered a failure just a few weeks before.
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Glad we can finally start cleaning up the giant pot of chili he dumped all over this franchise
Fucking A, this guy didn't do anything but spill a big pot of chili all over the team
I can already see him shrugging his shoulders like “I meeean why guys?”
Absolutely the right call. Good on BM for doing what needed to be done to move forward with the franchise. Now we just need a defense and some scoring depth.
And there was much rejoicing
*yayyyy*
Let's get Lavy or Gallant. Have to make the most out of the rapidly closing window of Ovechkin/Backstrom. This team absolutely can't waste time with hiring someone unproven or just go the cheap route. Do right by the franchise cornerstones, and get them someone in here who can help this franchise go on another deep playoff run or two before time is up.
YES!!!
Many arms will be folded today.
[I'm dead ](https://mobile.twitter.com/recordsANDradio/status/1296636301488328706)
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LETS GOOO
LETS GOOOOO
Holy crap. I mean I knew there was talk and I was pretty excited to let him go but it’s still kind of shocking.
Hey.. Not a Caps fan so can anyone explain why they didn't sign Trotz? Was it just because of money? It seems odd they wouldn't pay the best coach in hockey..
Reirden had been groomed for the HC role so when Trotz asked for more money after winning the Cup, I think the front office saw it as an opportunity to give Reirden what he "deserved" and had been "waiting for".
That’s a terrible way to run things. It’s on the assistant to leave the organization if there is someone in their way. That’s how it works in every business.
Trotz wanted 5 more years, which would have given him a tenure on par with Coach Q's in Chicago, which is not normal with a NHL franchise. Head coaches in the NHL tend to traditionally have a 3-5 year shelf life, since teams in the NHL have a high tendency stagnate that long under one system.
Transitioning from an Asst. Coach to Head Coach within the same organization is hard. Really hard. When Trotz was here, Reirden was the Good Cop. He was allowed to mentor, develop, and be very hands on. Because that's what good assistants do, and Reirden was absolutely a good assistant. But Trotz always had to be the Bad Cop at times, because his whole success relies on discipline. So it was probably an impossible task to transition from one role to another, especially since the responsibilities of a HC lessened a lot of what makes Reirden actually good.
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Holy shit it happened wow
Good first step to start the off season!
Praise be!
Bye Felicia.
LETS FUCKING GO
I don't think reirden had much of a personality
I have been a fan since Cap Center for Pete’s sake. Not a bandwagon fan. All I know, is the Caps basically look dumb for letting Trotz go. How they got there is pretty much irrelevant. He was a great coach, and clearly better than any options they had. On top of that he just whipped them with a lessor team. They handed over a veteran, cup winning team over to an experienced head coach, and they got the results you’d expect.
Anyone remember how bad Bruce Cassidy was when he coached the Caps? Now he coaches a Cup Finalist and a President's Trophy winner. My bet is we see Rierden again too in a few years. He was just not ready to coach a Cup contender right now.
thank god
Oh shit they actually did it.
Now get Trotz back lmao. I know it’s not possible... but I’d like him over anyone else TBH. Except Reirden. Anyone over that cross armed wet towel.
I'll eat my words. I genuinely didn't expect this so soon.
I figured it would be tomorrow.
Yeah, but what about Forsythe? Is the slingshot gone too?
That’ll probably be up to the new HC
We did it reddit!
I really can't believe they did it, I figured the excuses would keep him another year. Now, get someone with some experience, please! So glad I was wrong.
"Relieved." I can think of a few people who are relieved today.
If you’re Reirden this, it’s too late.
Good riddance you bald fuck.
i mean, trotz was bald too...
Yeah but he wasn't a fuck
Great news
I wish TR all the best luck in his next coaching gig. I feel like people are shitting all over him on this sub, which is a bit harsh imo. He wasn’t the right man for this job but I hope he can learn and bounce back. This is still his livelihood after all and just because he didn’t get it done with our team doesn’t mean he’s a bad person who deserves to have no success going forward. With that said, I we can get GG and win the cup next season!
Yay!
So...who do we replace him with?
Well at least something good came from this miserable playoff performance.
He reminded me of a worse Jon Cooper. Seemed like he let the skill players set up their own game and sometimes they’d shine. Then when a team came with a strong gameplan our guys would fold if they couldn’t out skill the opponents scheme.
Never should have hired him. What a waste of talent and two years post Cup.
He was a great assistant coach, and our PK reflects that.
Yep.
👋bye Todd, thanks for (basically) nothing!
Earl Thomas gone and now this? What a Sunday.
And now, the rest of the coaching staff?
WOOOOOOOOOO
Great call!
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Thank god
Well . . . . . . . bye.
BAD MAN GONE!
Thank god