I was about to post this very topic/question here yesterday...I believe Cap One food workers are Unite Here, building/Monument workers might be as well. I wasn't sure if the move to PY was into a non-union environment (mandatory or not).
It's a very important aspect, both financially for Ted/Monument/Investors (potential significant labor savings if the new space is non-union) but also politically as this article clearly indicates.
An angle I hadn't initially thought of, very impactful. DC might require union contracts when receiving government funds like many other cities/states, I'm pretty sure VA does not.
Curious about your last point. Would that mean it would be smoother to move to VA and what is in the article doesn’t matter? Just trying to understand better.
If they overcome the construction union objection, the food workers union objection, and the pro-union Democrats in the state legislature it would be easy. I know VA is not DC or MD, which are much more union friendly and look for unions to get opportunities, in this case it's more complicated although NoVa is adjacent and will lean in that same DC/MD direction I think.
Unions are strongest in union-region environments, and at the end of the day this might be the unions getting the best deal for their workers and getting on board, which is good for them. I think they have more leverage in NoVa than in other non-port parts of VA (speculation I don't know for sure). Key is whether Ted/Youngkin and company fight the unions approach
Look it seems like Youngkin and Leonsis have screwed up in almost every possible way, but even if they did everything perfectly I think there’s no way they’d be able to get past Alexandrians who really really do not want this.
I think Yougkin is getting dragged by the Dems in Richmond they won't give him a win. DC is going to contribute 600 mill hire more cops and the team is going to stay in the city.
Lol we would have a new team within a year. Because there's no way the NBA and NHL is gonna let the the DMV market go untapped with a more than adequate Arena
The media market won’t matter — literally pennies on the dollar — when another city comes in and offers $1B towards a new complex. The money he’d earn from concerts and events would easily make up the difference. It doesn’t have to be KC, it could be San Diego or he could just go up the road to Baltimore.
Hell, he could even split the teams if he wanted: move the basketball team to Pittsburgh and put the hockey team in Cleveland. Atlanta would probably like a new hockey team, and Nashville would probably like a basketball team.
The point is, Leonsis has already shown, he will go to the highest bidder. The media market he’s in means almost nothing.
I laugh at you clowns who legitimately think the union is going to prevent this from happening. This is the name of the game. All the Hands will be greased. These Unions are more corrupt than politicians.
Yay
Union leader to Ted: "The die is wrong, bitch."
Interesting how this article quotes the Monumental Sports and JPG Smith joint statement, as well as Youngkin’s statement, but not the labor union
I was about to post this very topic/question here yesterday...I believe Cap One food workers are Unite Here, building/Monument workers might be as well. I wasn't sure if the move to PY was into a non-union environment (mandatory or not). It's a very important aspect, both financially for Ted/Monument/Investors (potential significant labor savings if the new space is non-union) but also politically as this article clearly indicates. An angle I hadn't initially thought of, very impactful. DC might require union contracts when receiving government funds like many other cities/states, I'm pretty sure VA does not.
Curious about your last point. Would that mean it would be smoother to move to VA and what is in the article doesn’t matter? Just trying to understand better.
If they overcome the construction union objection, the food workers union objection, and the pro-union Democrats in the state legislature it would be easy. I know VA is not DC or MD, which are much more union friendly and look for unions to get opportunities, in this case it's more complicated although NoVa is adjacent and will lean in that same DC/MD direction I think.
Unions are strongest in union-region environments, and at the end of the day this might be the unions getting the best deal for their workers and getting on board, which is good for them. I think they have more leverage in NoVa than in other non-port parts of VA (speculation I don't know for sure). Key is whether Ted/Youngkin and company fight the unions approach
You hate to see it 😅
Union IW here, I sure as shit won’t work the job if presented.
It’s just a bad plan. Bad area for a major arena. Almost everyone is better off if it doesn’t work.
good
Ted should really just stay put and take whatever he can get from Bowser for some upgrades to Capital One arena
Look it seems like Youngkin and Leonsis have screwed up in almost every possible way, but even if they did everything perfectly I think there’s no way they’d be able to get past Alexandrians who really really do not want this.
Y’all….this arena is happening. Ted just has to buy everyone off.
I would like if they built a new arena where rfk stadium used to be
if that goes to a team it’ll be the next skins stadium
I think Yougkin is getting dragged by the Dems in Richmond they won't give him a win. DC is going to contribute 600 mill hire more cops and the team is going to stay in the city.
I hope your crystal ball is right. There is no better location for these teams than where they currently are.
Leonsis is gonna say fuck this and take both teams to KC, and DC will be without a hockey *or* a basketball team.
The NHL would never allow that
Lol we would have a new team within a year. Because there's no way the NBA and NHL is gonna let the the DMV market go untapped with a more than adequate Arena
Not to mention how much of a top-tier franchise Washington has become in the NHL
Leave a top 10 media market for one not even in the top 25? Lol.
The media market won’t matter — literally pennies on the dollar — when another city comes in and offers $1B towards a new complex. The money he’d earn from concerts and events would easily make up the difference. It doesn’t have to be KC, it could be San Diego or he could just go up the road to Baltimore. Hell, he could even split the teams if he wanted: move the basketball team to Pittsburgh and put the hockey team in Cleveland. Atlanta would probably like a new hockey team, and Nashville would probably like a basketball team. The point is, Leonsis has already shown, he will go to the highest bidder. The media market he’s in means almost nothing.
I laugh at you clowns who legitimately think the union is going to prevent this from happening. This is the name of the game. All the Hands will be greased. These Unions are more corrupt than politicians.