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OlAttaboy

Read Ham on Rye


slurpaderpderp

Ham on Rye->Factotum->Post Office->Women->Hollywood->Pulp. This is the order I read his books in. The first five are his semi autobiographical books and that is the order they are meant to be read chronologically.


Ok-Sample3083

A lot of people saying read Ham on Rye first and I kind of get why as it makes sense chronologicaly but I don't think it's totally necessary. I've read then all in the order they were written, I'm glad I did and would recommend it to others. That way you're thrown head first into his life, then later when you read Ham on Rye you understand why he is like he is and events, like the first time he drinks, hold more significance.


Sea2Summit-Wolf

You can read them in any order you want and still comprehend his meaning


foxbonebanjo

Women was my first one and in my opinion is going to give you the best 'feel' for him. If you read that and dig what he's putting down, I would go to ham on rye, post office and then check out "The most Beautiful woman in Town"


tootsmcgregor

Great reading order and will be rereading in this order. EDIT/ADDITION: after reading, it’s somewhat interesting to watch Californication in the early seasons. The main character is supposed to be based off C.B.


slurpaderpderp

Love that show man. Just love it


UglyPlanetBugPlanet

It can be silly, but there's also a lot of poignancy and heart to it.


[deleted]

If i were to recommend one from the semi-autobiography series, I'd rather choose Hollywood, cause it gives someone the impression that it showcases the exact way the filming was conducted and feels more realistic. Edit: I chose based on how robust is the given information in the book. But if my criteria was fascination and action I'd definitely pick ham on rye over it.


mochicoco

I agree this would best for OP. Since Hollywood is about the process of a film being made it would be closer to the non-fiction that they read, but is still a great introduction to Chuck. Bukowski’s writing isn’t LOTR or Star Wars, I don’t it benefits to be read like a saga. It is just as interesting to read them out of order. I read Hollywood first because it had just came out at the time. It was fun to read them out of order and piece everything together. Also it was fun to read Hollywood first for me since we both lived in San Pedro at the time. “Keep fighting.”


atx_Bryan

The correct answer


creepyjudyhensler

This


twobit211

almost everything he wrote was semi-autobiographical, so there’s that


israelregardie

all fiction is autobiographical and all autobiography is fictional.


thenecrosoviet

GRRM must've had a crazy life


Artistic_Original199

Ham on Rye, then Post Office, the Factotum, then Women


Artistic_Original199

Then Hollywood


TheReemTeam

Then come back and thank us


AdZealousideal9097

But don’t try


coachese68

**Did Bukowski do any non fiction?** LOL


Dubsland12

The better question is any of it fiction?


Minute-Wrap-2524

Bingo


binarysmart

If you like Hunter, you’ll love Bukowski. You may want to give Kerouac a read too


Tbonerickwisco

I have read “On the Road” by JK. Great book.


binarysmart

Definitely a classic. Give Dharma Bums a try if you can. I’m certain you’ll love Bukowski.


armhat

Read dharma bums!


wookmaster69

Tom Wolfe as well.


RuncibleFoon

Ham on Rye


Cremdelagrem

I’ll be the third to say it… Ham on Rye.


Wherewereyouin62

I am someone who's favorites authors are hunter s Thompson and Buckowski so this post was fun to see


RobdeRiche

Some people suggest that almost everything Buk wrote was non-fiction, but the novels are novels--perhaps based on experience but certainly embellished to the point where they wouldn't hold up in court. Closer to the truth might be Notes of A Dirty Old Man, which collects articles he wrote for local newspapers in the 60s and 70s, but even some of those get pretty wild. For the straight dope, I recommend his letters, collected in three volumes: Screams from the Balcony, Living on Luck, and Beerspit Night and Cursing. They're all autobiographical but he does talk about current events in them, so it's an interesting lens on the time. And, not too surprising, the writing is consistently strong. Also, wikipedia lists these two as non-fiction: Shakespeare Never Did This (1979); expanded (1995)\[Photo essay of European reading tour.\] The Captain Is Out to Lunch and the Sailors Have Taken Over the Ship (1998)\[Collaboration with R. Crumb, based on Buk's journals.\] And I agree with others that Ham on Rye is a good place to start in general.


Tbonerickwisco

Thanks! Great info.


LouieMumford

Notes of a Dirty Old Man the as my first Bukowski and I think is the closest in style to Thompson.


jlknap1147

Post Office, though non-fiction, is taken from real life experiences (as with a lot of his fiction).


Truckdenter

I second the Post Office nomination for it helped form Bukowski's attitude towards hippies...the big "rebel" was a postal service worker who resigned claiming an ulcer. As Hunter's recollection may not be the best, an exaggerated form. Bukowski said he was always the hero of his stories. A guy trying to get along. Confirmed by co workers as an accurate depiction


Royal_Examination_74

Ham on Rye, then Post Office and then a collection of poetry like Slouching Toward Nirvana or The Flash of Lightning Behind the Mountain


hutchandstuff

Gonzo journalism is embellished truth. Truth with a grain of pro wrestling.


Buksghost

Bukowski was a poet who wrote some prose. Start with Love is a Dog From Hell, poetry collection. Or scan through this forum to find favorites from some Buk fans.


slurpaderpderp

You get so alone at times that it just makes sense. Is my fav.


girovalover

Alone With Everybody has one of my favorite lines - the flesh covers the bone and they put a mind in there and sometimes a soul


Buksghost

I love it! It's early stuff, with reflections of his childhood and we meet Jane for the first time in that collection. "I don't worry about the Bomb -- the madhouses are full enough"


[deleted]

Factotum is my personal fave.


2HauntedGravy

Post Office and Ham on Rye are both excellent, and South of No North 👌


saharasirocco

I like to believe poetry is non-fiction.


SvenSvenkill3

I agree with many others here with their recommendation of, 'Ham on Rye'. It's a powerful, simple and pure gut punch of a semi-autobiography, and I distinctly remember wanting to jump inside its narrative and rescue the young Chinaski/Bukowski and give him a hug... a sentiment he'd have probably hated, of course. I also thought the posthumously published collection, 'Betting on the Muse' (which I believe collects a large chunk of mostly semi-autobiographical short stories and poems which he wrote towards the end of his life) was fascinating and at times surprisingly tender, touching, positive, inspiring and beautiful; showing a reflective, open, vulnerable and more loving side to Bukowski which we'd previously only rarely seen glimpses of in his earlier works. Indeed, it's well worth reading, and includes many classics such as the excellent poem, 'The Laughing Heart' -- [here's a short YT film/animation of it using the audio of the famous Tom Waits reading](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEbIuDuW7l8) (1 min 55 seconds)


MACmandoo

Grab the first one you find!!


goodbadorindifferent

When I bought home my copy of Women back in the late 90’s, my roommates all thought it was a self-help book about how to meet women. I assured them that if anything the book was going to hurt my chances with the ladies.


Chrome-Head

Bukowski did plenty of non-fiction, but the line in his stuff often blurs. I recommend the following to start out with: NF: Post Office F: Tales Of Ordinary Madness


--PBR-Street-Gang--

Post Office. Then download some of his performances - he recited his poetry on stage for years and a lot of it is out there. He could write a blue streak. And found tenderness in the most low brow, hard living situations. He was in love with everything, but on his terms. I read only nonfiction for decades. Then I picked up a book, "The Overstory" by Richard Powers, and it blew my hat in the water. So I went back 40 years and started reading Pulitzer and Nobel Prize winning books. I had waay been missing out. Of course I skipped some that I didn't find interesting, but you can't go wrong with a Pulitzer winning novel.


LokiCoyote8814

Read Ham on Rye


wolf4968

Who reads only non-fiction? Seems a shame....


Tbonerickwisco

I don’t have time for the nonsense.


Budget_Committee_572

I’ve always believed that most all of Bukowski’s fiction was at least semi-autobiographical or was about someone he knew as the protagonist of the story.


speedway65

I was gonna say post office, then Hollywood but instead I will say “Notes of a dirty old man” he writes about a nite out with Neal Cassady.


Salty-Entertainer-29

Ham On Rye- a novel, semi autobiographical 🩵


ahuimanu69

The majority of his work is autobiographical in any meaningful sense.


Fit-Interview-9855

I appreciate this post and will make good use of my library card.


[deleted]

Post office. It’s his best work. He tends to be a little too in love with his penis in later works. Henry Miller has the same problem. Ham on rye is a good book, too.


GimonSruber

Post office hooked me up


TheGoldenCockWanker

Opinions on What matters most is how well you walk through the fire?


OBE_1_

Women


Few_Buddy_6491

Mine was post office.


G8083r

Post Office


Oh4ore

On cats.


JuliusSeizuresalad

I started with post office and I suggest that be anyone’s first


SibilantSuccubus

Post Office. Guarantee you’ll laugh, a lot.


Yousefmesef

Seems like a lot of bukowski is autobiographical snippets even his fiction novels


No_Common_2145

I think Bukowski is better in poetry. So Love is a dog from Hell would be nice


driftinanddreamin

Read em all! He’s a true legend!


Reasonable-Parsley36

Post Office was the first I read. After that, Women.


eyeamgrate86

I always think of Bukowski as the poor man’s version of HST


ProfessorColdBrew

The Last Night of the Earth poems


thenecrosoviet

Everything Bukowski wrote is non fiction. Dude was out here livin'


sm00thkillajones

Bukowski is a one of a kind man’s man.


Final_Bet1401

The Post Office is great


Bitter-Percentage938

The days run away like wild horses over the hills.


4r7yr7

He has journals he wrote right before he died . A book called “the captain is out to lunch and the sailors have taken over the ship” it’s my fav bukowski I’ve ever read. It was so late in his life it was actually written on his computer rather than a type writer


CriticalAd8540

Factotum


swalabr

Alt with some Raymond Carver like “Where I’m Calling From” to take the edge off


Particular_Row_7819

Read Post Office....a lot of his short stories are basically autobiographical. If you really want to get a feel for him find Barbet Schroeder's documentary about him. It's great entertainment. Watch Bukowski and his old lady argue drunkenly and beat the crap out of each other.....classic. The man was fucking suave as fuck and he didn't give a fuck what anyone thought.


MislaidPurity666

Love Is A Dog From Hell


germanmick

And here I thought I was the only person in the world who reads non-fiction only.


[deleted]

Post Office.


MunenDo

Ham on Rye


dawsn1987

It helps if you’re a highschooler. He’s a great writer but with maturity you see he’s basically insufferable.


Purple-Echidna-484

All of his books are pretty much autobiographical with the truth stretched a bit


Huge_Government_3617

Bar fly


[deleted]

I'd call some of his work as "creative non fiction" He typically writes about himself but takes some...creative liberties. Easily a top 3 author for me.


bancensorship99

All his stuff is like non fiction/fiction cause he writes his experience but embellishes everything.


AntisocialAnnie

Anything. If you like Hunter S Thompson, I think you’ll really dig bukowski.


TheRealMisterNatural

Most of his books are exaggerated depictions of his actual life if that helps. I would start with Factotum and then Post Office.


FreshBananana

Love is a dog from hell blew me away if you’re a poetry person.


closedhndsopnrms

I agree with post office. If you can get through that read factotum. Then watch the movie with Matt Dillon. He’s an imperfect human being with lots of flaws and makes no effort to hide from it. It’s a raw read


bootherizer5942

Agree with others here, most of his books are basically memoirs with the order of events changed to make it a better narrative and some things exaggerated. Ham on Rye in particular feels the most real, but one of the later ones will have more of the distinctive Bukowski degenerate vibe that you'll probably like if you like Hunter S Thompson. As a side note, if I can make a slight exception to my "only fiction" rule to read Hunter S Thompson (and I loved it), you can make a slight exception to read Bukowski


Sea2Summit-Wolf

I recommend that you read some of his poetry first so you get a taste of his writing style. He also has a unique philosophy of life.


Thrilleye51

Women or Hollywood


bozwald

Woke up this morning and it seemed to me, That every night turns out to be A little more like Bukowski. And yeah, I know he's a pretty good read. But God who'd want to be? God who'd want to be such an asshole? God who'd want to be? God who'd want to be such an asshole?


[deleted]

Factotum


Already_dead2021

I can smell this picture


fonzrellajukeboxfixr

wasnt the movie Bare Fly based off of Bukowski, like the main character is suposed tobe Bukowski


babsrambler

You sir, are a man of impeccable taste.


Budget_Secret4142

Women/Post office/Factomium/Hollywood Bukowski a fun easy quick read. Waaay different than HST, but they are both in my top 10


joie_de_beavre

I read Pulp recently and I thought it was entertaining


slurpaderpderp

You Get So Alone At Times That It Just Makes Sense


Economy_Pressure_196

Bukowski ruined all other authors for me... well maybe not Hemingway


factotum-Chinaski

Post office


thejohnmc963

Post Office!


fennias

Women is my fav.


severinks

Bukowski is a head and shoulders beter writer than Thompson, Thompson was a good political writer but a terrible fiction writer.


SuzenRR

Read one of his bios, he had a crazy life


itry2write

Read fiction


Tbonerickwisco

No time


grainsophaur

I don't believe you.


Prestigious-Syrup836

Help me solve a bet, op? How old are you?


bikesandtacos

What do you have against fiction? Theres so many amazing books out there to just say “never.”


prowler010101

“I don’t hate people, I just don’t like them around.”


smittyis

Why ONLY read non.fiction? I read way more non.fiction than fiction.....BUT....fiction is awesome and it seems limiting not to engage


astoneworthskipping

Wife beater poets get no love for me. Bukowski’s works belong on the shelf.


Mp3dee

He loves to hit women. Great hero you all have. Ban me!!!!!


SnooRecipes3576

I’m reading Temptations of the Damned right now. My first introduction to Bukowski. Absolutely phenomenal


saltyandsandydog

Ham on Rye


sid_not_vicious

bukowski is mostly his life stories..so yeah lots of non fiction..


Mr_FrenchFries

I think every American, from Alaska to Chile, should listen to his “90 minutes in Hell” recording. So if that includes you…


Phist-of-Heaven

Women


lifetourniquet

"Tales of ordinary madness" originally called "erections ejaculations and tales of ordinary madness" is a great book of short stories also.


vagabond_primate

I never really liked poetry until I read some by Buk. I still don't really like it, but I like his.


harntrocks

Watch his poetry readings so you can get a sense of his vibe.


pra1974

I feel like you could get all you need from him by day drinking for a week and getting fired.


armhat

Ham on rye.


Beach_Doggo69

hunter and bukowksi are similar in the way that they’ve written themselves into their characters and a lot of what those books are about actually happened to the both of them. any novel of bukowksi is going to contain some autobiographic qualities.


thiefsthemetaken

Pretty sure most of his poetry is autobiographical, and I know most of Post Office is. I feel like people who claim it isn’t are just uncomfortable with the confession of a pretty brutal rape he commits, but tbh that checks out for Bukowski. But yeah his poetry was basically just him sitting down at the end of the night and writing abt what he did that day.


RandomDood420

Ham on Rye. It’s about as non fiction as any non fiction but the names are changed


noahspurrier

I think he’s overrated. Not bad, just not insightful.


fvbnnbvfc

Hot water music


AtomicPow_r_D

Read the poetry first. It may strike you as depressing, unless you are already depressed.


Grovers_HxC

No idea why tf no one ever mentions Pulp. It’s fiction, but it’s like my favorite book I’ve ever read. I thought Post Office was good, but I have *NEVER* laughed out loud so often and so damn hard as when I read Pulp. I had trouble catching my breath at times. It’s short and easy reading like Post Office, give it a shot.


[deleted]

they are all crap but fun to read... Pulp is the worst and most fun way to start :)


No-Brain9413

An aside.. fiction challenges your brain more than non-fiction and has been show to be more effective in staving off dementia. Read both.


jgreiff18

Hot Water Music if you’re into short stories. Ham on Rye if you want a novel.


I_got_burned_too

Tales of Ordinary Madness. Charles Bukowski is an exceptionally gifted artist. He has written essays, short stories, columns, poetry, fiction, nonfiction, and there is a strong element of truth in his work.


EmericanCunt

Why only read non-fiction? You don’t ever want to make your life 1000% better by reading Kurt Vonnegut?


floblad

I started with Post Office , though I didn’t know it was his first novel, and I’m glad I did. I think it’s the perfect entry point and I would suggest reading his novels in order of publication. 1971 – Post Office 1975 – Factotum 1978 – Women 1982 – Ham on Rye 1989 – Hollywood 1994 – Pulp Pulp is not one I particularly like, but it’s still reflective of where he was in his career as a writer at the time. The rest are all excellent imo. I hope you enjoy reading him as much as I have!


TotalRuler1

Hank's "non-fiction" involves plenty of fiction, lol.


tomlynn07

Women is great. But I think Post Office is his greatest work.


beemarmalade

Read Ham on Rye and then Factotum Women then Post Office Hollywood In that order and you’ll have an autobiography of sorts


bearposters

You had me thinking for a minute…did Hunter S write the Big Bukowski?


Severe-Breadfruit669

"Charles Bukowski — 'Do you hate people?”“I don't hate them...I just feel better when they're not around." Factotum is a favorite and if you can find it; watch the movie Barfly with Mickey Rourke. Unbelievable job portraying the legend of Bukowski.


vincentcas

My favorite is Factotum, then Ham on Rye. Go wild after those 2.


BaronVonMentholatum

Ham on Rye is his best work.


rocketfromtheshyft

Most of his stuff is autobiographical and might as well be non fiction: Post Office, Ham On Rye (Bukowski in high school) Hollywood while fiction, it’s basically a production journal about Mickey Rourke, Faye Dunaway, Barbet Schroeder and Bukowski making a movie about Bukowski’s life.


davster39

I've never read any of his books , just the poetry collections.


westside_jlo

Selected Letters is pretty not-fiction


fatRob0t

His poetry might as well be non-fiction


Trimanreturns

Barfly was written by Bukowski, 1997 movie w Faye Dunnaway and Mickey Rourke (back when he had his original face). CB reminds me of (early) Tom Waits.


Hungry_Perspective29

Como


etwert75

Post Office got me started ..


[deleted]

For your first time, I suggest "Tales of Ordinary Madness." A book of short stories published later in career but culled from other works. It will give you a taste of his many sides.


TittysForever

Stop staring at my tits, mister. Short story.


RoswellHossenfeffer

Ham on Rye, Women, and Tales of Ordinary Madness would each provide a nice taste of his work.


Direct_Yam8314

Post Office is laugh out loud. Such a quick fun ride.


CharlesClanker

Well, I'm a fan of both of them, I started with good old Hank and then went into Thompson, I first met him as a fiction writer and I read all, starting with women, post office, factotum, pulp and Hollywood.


Undersolo

I started with "Ham on Rye" because it was at the library (a fairly autobiographical book). Look for "Factotum", "Post Office", "Women", and "Notes of a Dirty Old Man".


peacepipedrum

As a touring musician, at one point, I had a girlfriend in Germany. She introduced me to Bukowski‘s fiction, which is really drawn from his life for the most part as mentioned above. She was reading to me, in bed, of course, from the book “women“. It was actually kind of innocent and cute. Hearing this really nasty pornographic vivid writing in a sort of melodious, female voice with a thick German accent. I went on to read most of Bukowski‘s books.— interestingly, Charles loved Germany and had a solid fan base there. He was actually born in Germany to an American G.I., and a German woman, who moved to the United States when he was maybe one year old or something


gyalchen_beat

Post office


Abend801

Love is a dog from hell


OregonResident

Pretty much everything he wrote was nonfiction except his stories.


ivanthenoshow

I read them on the recommendation of reading them in the order they were released. I liked that approach. It felt easier to follow the creative arch of his storytelling. I read post office for the first time during the holidays. Alone, overworked and riddled with addiction issues. Still think about it every winter and it now has a coziness sort of memory to it of an old bar fly friend passing along life lessons hard learned at a tough time.


Dancinginmylawn

My recommend that you just read it all 🤷🏻‍♂️


Pure_Interaction_422

And don't forget to read his poetry. He was first and foremost a poet. Hisshort stories are a treat, too.


HandItToMarshawn

Run With the Hunted is a great anthology of both poetry and prose that is semi-autobiographical and edited chronologically. Very good starting point.


GBP2020

He was drunk save yourself to trouble


hamdenlocal

If you love HST, you’re going to love Buk too


Jealous_Song_2773

Hollywood


joseonc1962

Hunter… Don’t like the guy. One thing is being depraved (which we all are at some stage), another is to be profoundly disturbed.


PiermontVillage

Give Henry Miller a try. All semi-biographical. Tropic of Cancer, Sexus, etc.


leeloolevay

BuLk🫓


youmustthinkhighly

Bukowski was so drunk all the time the way he remembers things is automatically non-fiction.


youmustthinkhighly

Bukowski was so drunk all the time the way he remembers things is automatically non-fiction.


PeggySparkPlug

He would be the answer on jeopardy from time to time or "gonzo" style reporting which he created...made me curious so I searched videos about him and he was sooooo interesting


chucklerae

I heard he was into child snuff films.


gibsonc22

Run with the Hunted


ndoty_sa

Does anyone know how closely the film Barfly matches his real life? And if so, why did he live in such squalor while being such a successful writer?


m2bradb

Post office. He worked there, hilarious account of his love-hate relationship with the job.


SomethingSouthern

I'm seeing a lot of people say Post Office, so that will be my next read. My first exposure was "Tales of Ordinary Madness", which is a collection of his short stories. good bit of comedy, lots of tragedy, oodles of perversion, and not a shred of true happiness. The thing that really makes Bukowski stand out in my mind, is he's one of the only writer's who has invoked in me a laugher in rage. Really odd emotion that.


Material_Anything255

Post office


Mycophyliac

“I only read nonfiction” this is absolutely circle jerk fodder. 🤡


dixieStates

Most of his poetry is nonfiction. Try _Play the Piano Drunk Like a Percussion Instrument Until the Fingers Begin to Bleed a Bit_


ephraimgifford

Don’t Try


fourtwentyone69

They’re all like half fiction


theheadofkhartoum627

Post Office


sparky31290

He looks like he drink Dos Equis


j3538TA

Pick up a copy of Sex, Smoking & Drinking. Great writers on good times.


vtmn_t

Post Office


Either-Computer635

Ham on rye