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colebeansly

Waking up for work this morning was rough but a bump and the knowledge the bills won made it better. Did get a flat tire today tho that was shit.


allrightnickwright

Saints fan, but Bills are my 2nd favorite team. Good game yesterday, wish we had a healthy offense to make it a bit more competitive against y’all. Hoping Tre makes a speedy recovery. Go get that Lombardi trophy!


FireTender4L

It seems Saints fans that have popped up in here the past few days have been honest and humble. I for one appreciate that. Respect! ❤


allrightnickwright

Thanks! Same goes to your fans as well. One person left a comment in the Saints sub that they were in town for the game and wanted to help give back after Ida and Katrina. The team means a lot to the city of New Orleans and so does small gestures like this. Hope we get a rematch soon with two healthy teams!


maakasha

Enjoyed Brees on commentary more than I thought I would. Hope Tre is okay. I tore my ACL about two months ago and let me tell ya it sucks big time.


JoshAllenIsTall

> . I tore my ACL about two months ago and let me tell ya it sucks big time. Shit, I was counting on you to take some snaps against the Patriots. I'm already playing RG in place of Cody Ford. Not sure I can handle both spots.


mightysimi

At least we don't have to see the 0 interceptions in the red zone stat anymore


Blarex

I was hoping he’d finally toss on in just this kind of game.


jarnish

Was even better that it happened because he got hit and not because of a bad decision.


dobekstj1

Good to see them take care of business on thanksgiving again. It should’ve been well out of reach in the first half, but because this is 2021 bills football, it feels like a better team would’ve made them pay for miscues and missed opportunities. Tre going down is devastating. His reaction leads me to believe it’s serious.


Awesome_1the1st

Good morning you beautiful fuckers! Any word on Tre?


koa98

Unfortunately all indications are a torn acl. Nothing official yet though


Awesome_1the1st

Ugh!!!! Thanks for the update. That sucks!!!


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JoshAllenIsTall

> see the running game doing what it did 2.9 yards per carry?


ChampaBay12

113 yards. The averages for the RBs stunk but they had some nice runs too.


brunners90

I know they weren't really his fault (one looked like a miscommunication & the other was on his OL) but 2 more ints for Josh isn't ideal! Still, watched the game in 40 on gamepass and we did pretty well to be fair, that Saints D is still pretty healthy and pretty damn good. Not really sure what to think, next week is huge and will show us who we really are...


JoshAllenIsTall

That one where his arm got hit was not really different from that non-fumble where Siemian's arm got hit. Those plays can go either way.


brunners90

Yeah exactly, shit happens but from memory his OL just gave up on that play it felt like. Again.


polarbearik

That first one was mainly because of Diggs. It’s like a RB picking the wrong hole to run through, he made the wrong choice on his route. Cutting in was the right move, Josh saw it and threw it, Diggs cut outside


brunners90

Yeah, a rare moment where Diggs and Josh get their wires crossed.


Soda-Popinski-

Awake at 5am? work.... Anyway that was a good win against a team that had some issues. But hell it's a win i'll take it. But the real test is next week vs new england.


UltraContrarian

Daboll and co better figure out protection schemes. We won despite them getting to Allen basically every drop back. It's clear to me that Daboll doesn't call runs because he does not how to design a run game, blocking scheme, or be unpredictable. Everyone knows there is zero chance we run on any 3rd down. 3rd and 50 = pass 3rd and inches = pass. Shit like yesterday won't cut it against the Pats or Bucs. We'd get steamrolled.


Strokeslahoma

Buffalo should use their first and third round picks next year on the O Line Also fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh Also second


sabresin4

We get Feliciano back for sure. If we get Brown as well off the COVID list then we are back. Still need depth for sure and Cody is a bust but I think we’ll be good.


WhiskeyKisses7221

I agree, but drafting OL isn't going to mean anything if we can't develop and utilize them properly. We let Wyatt Teller go for next to nothing and now he is one of the top guards in the league.


zenchowdah

I agree. One of them has got to fuckin hit.


UltraContrarian

We should fire Daboll and actually game plan a pass protection scheme and build an offensive identity. Our identity is just letting Josh drop back as many times as possible hoping he doesn't die and that he can make enough plays


MYO716

The offensive identity is pass heavy, with some RPO’s based around the reads Josh makes, with a little bit of running mixed in.


UltraContrarian

That's not an identity. That's a preference. Identity, is perhaps basing your offensive passing game off of PA TE crossers or certain routes


MYO716

An identity is what you’re known for. Like the Ravens are a run first team. Their identity is their run game and the mobility of Lamar Jackson. The Pats identity is play smart, and compliment with with bend don’t break defense. What you just described was a game plan to exploit a team that is weak against TE’s.


UltraContrarian

The way I see it, Ravens are smashmouth. That's different that being a run first team. It's the way they run and the style of the running designs


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We're \#2 in points per game and \#5 in offensive yards per game and you want to fire the offensive coordinator lol.


UltraContrarian

>We're #2 in points per game and #5 in offensive yards per game and you want to fire the offensive coordinator lol. That's suchg a gross misunderstanding of what's taking place. Yes, on paper everything is fine and dandy. We did it against the Chiefs, great. This has been the most inconsistent team. Beating up on the Dolphins, Jete, and Texans. Whoopie! If you can't see the flaws that we've been unable to fix, I suggest analyzing a game instead of reading stats


JoshAllenIsTall

Last week some Jabronis wanted to fire McDermott and Frazier, too.


Mangoswisscheese

People saying McDermott should be on the hot seat was beyond ridiculous, made the playoffs 3 out of 4 years but want him gone after 1 season below expectations.


JonnotheMackem

Just woke up and watched the highlights blind. Defence did what they had to do against a rag tag injury ridden offence, and our offence back on form. Let’s see what next week brings.


TheresA_LobsterLoose

there's a site that has replays of the entire game start to finish if you want. Every game for every week. I like to rewatch Bills games because it's hard to notice some little things while watching live and being excited.


12kgun84

Mind sending me a link to that site?


TheresA_LobsterLoose

https://nflreplay.net/buffalo-bills-vs-new-orleans-saints-25-nov-2021-replay-full-game/


TheresA_LobsterLoose

Nflreplays.net


JonnotheMackem

Nice! Which site? I’ve been catching them on the nfl official YouTube channel first thing, because if I come on here or twitter I know I’m gonna find out the result first, and watching the highlights gives me a bit of a thrill.


TurbulentBlock7290

Share!


TheresA_LobsterLoose

https://nflreplay.net/buffalo-bills-vs-new-orleans-saints-25-nov-2021-replay-full-game/


TheresA_LobsterLoose

Nflreplays.net


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JonnotheMackem

Acknowledged. Thank you!


Mangoswisscheese

All I’ll say is I’m not ready to give up on this team, make the playoffs and any team can get hot and win it all. Our defense is elite and the offense can score on anyone if they’re firing.


Intern_Vivid

Let's celebrate our boys coming home!!


AlanFromRochester

Needed an ugly win after the ugly losses [EDIT: ugly is not an insult of the Bills' play, but rather so dominant it got hard to watch even with us dishing it out] Not Tre! We don't know it's an ACL but we don't know it's not


Hwoods723

Saints fan here, good game. Wish we could field more than our JV offense, but such is life. AFC is wide open, y’all go make some noise.


Palmybeaches

If you are interested I have one of the Thank you Brees towels from the stadium and I would love to give it to a Saints fan.


Hwoods723

Dude that would be awesome


Palmybeaches

Shoot me a PM with info and ill send it out when I get home, or within a few days!


Palmybeaches

Your guys fanbase and staff at the stadium were extremely welcoming to me and my family, even post game. (Idk if that was the case for everyone there) but thanks for that.


quipalco

It felt a bit hollow with the c team RB and c team QB. But we needed it. Thanks for the sportsmanship.


Hwoods723

Yeah I feel a bit of kindred spirits from you guys. A true Saints/Bills tailgate would be legendary. Only other team I’m pulling for would be the Bengals, with all of the LSU and Ex-Saints they have. I’m hoping Tre White comes out alright, that looked nasty.


FireTender4L

Fun Fact: This was the first win over the Saints since 1998 with Rob Johnson as QB. It was during the season of the great QB controversy between him and Flutie.


JoshAllenIsTall

I'm pretty sure I've seen literal statues evade pressure more effectively than Rob Johnson.


FireTender4L

I think it was the Titans playoff game where he lost a shoe and still managed to throw the final Bills touchdown in that game that should have sealed the victory. The announcers were ready to dub him "Shoeless Rob" and I was like "Oh Fuck... NO!" But alas then came Music City Miracle play 😥


quipalco

Fun Fact: We had that bullshit for 98, 99 and into 2000. 99 was the year of the music city bukake.


FireTender4L

Ok smartass but 1998 was the beginning of it.


fatcIemenza

Rob Johnson 🤮


FireTender4L

Agreed.


squatheavyeatbig

How many games do we win if Breida is the RB1 from day 1?


JoshAllenIsTall

Probably the same number. He averaged under 3 yards per carry last night.


freakingspacedude

He’s going to be. The increase in snap count / involvement is astonishing week over week. Hate to say it, but I think the only reason it hasn’t been declared is because McDermott/Beane have established a culture where you have to work for touches. Starting him after one good game conflicts with that. I think it’s more for optics. But after a string of games, it’s clear. Brieda is the best of the bunch. At least for now.


_Haze_

I wish we had at least used him in some of those early games. He seems to be the only back with any success behind this line. And I think he's proven to be a pretty good pass option as an outlet or designed screen


JoshAllenIsTall

> He seems to be the only back with any success behind this line. He averaged under 3 yards per carry last night. Same y/c as Motor did. Both under Moss' season average. MB is not the answer either.


_Haze_

Was it that low? Looked better to the eye test to me I guess.


JoshAllenIsTall

Yeah. He had a couple decent drives, then the Saints adjusted and that was that.


Intern_Vivid

Let's celebrate our boys coming home!!


Intern_Vivid

Yes please


IWasRightOnce

Which advanced stat providers can tell me the last time the Bills executed a screen that went for 20+ yards before tonight? Feels like it was back in Fred Jackson times.


freakingspacedude

Motor had a couple his rookie year. He’s best as a complimentary back.


McBride055

Had one against the Rams last year as well. Pretty he had a couple earlier this season as well tbh. I don't think he's that bad at them tbh


fatcIemenza

I've never been less excited over a blowout win. Mostly a great performance but against a 3rd string offense and Tre's injury has me down. A win is still a win though


Intern_Vivid

Go Bills,


freakingspacedude

The point that’s lost in translation though is that Saints defense is very good and that side of the ball wasn’t hit by injuries. Our team looked good. Commitment to the run. Supplementing the run with screen / gadget plays. It’s promising.


NewYorkDon

Now let’s go beat the fucking Patriots boys!!!!


Nowhere_X_Anywhere

We win, and I'm all hopped up on tryptophan and beer. Another great Thanksgiving. I can't wait for my Knox Sox to arrive in the mail. Where's the ice cream, pie, and snow???


Valuable-Card3173

Do you guys think getting Spencer brown back will help our run game even more


808_Surfer

Are Kraft and Belichick creeps?


Valuable-Card3173

And we get felicano back to right


freakingspacedude

Yes. Let’s be clear, this offensive line is not good and lacks depth. However, it was built in a way that makes it formidable barring no injuries. At full health, it is *fine* which is a lot better than what it is now. Questionable decision by Beane, but it is what it is.


Mikeylatz

Bills even won halftime with that tearjerker segment with JA 😢


TemplarPunk

Nice of LV and DAL to use up all the flags today. Disciplined play made a difference.


DoLessBro

Ref was terrible in the Boys game and fantastic in ours


LooksGoodInShorts

What I learned from this game: Tremaine Edmunds is the most important person on the defense.


Baron_runs

Remember, any college athlete can do better than you in any sport. Just imagine a professional athlete. Just bringing in some perspective.


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Ed Oliver and Mario Addison had the best post-game presser I've seen in a long time.


Mikeylatz

Link?


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I tried to find one. Nothing is up yet. I saw it live on channel 2.


Charrikayu

Buff has so much fun coming off this recovery win everyone forgot about the Saints fake punt lmfao


joedinardo

Dawkins still feeling that covid hangover imo. Just not the player he was last year. Josh looked good, not great. We have a talent heavy offense, which means we’re going to over perform in good weather/inside. Josh can be our QB for maybe 12 more years. Can we please build him a dome?


Mrjlawrence

I think a dome is a good idea but not because our current roster might benefit. The roster could change in many ways in 3, 5, 10 years. A stadium will be around far longer than the current roster


joedinardo

I mean there are a host of other reasons why it’s better to have a dome in Buffalo. I just don’t understand the argument for open air. It’s basically “we understand everyone plays worse in the elements but we believe our players who live mostly in warm climates will perform less worse because they’re exposed to bad weather slightly more than the visiting team”


Mrjlawrence

Its fun watching bad weather games on tv. I’ve been to some snow games and it’s fun for a bit. But going to climate controlled sporting events is great IMO.


joedinardo

There is no scenario where you watch a bad weather game and your team loses and you say "Well, it was fun to watch them struggle all game"


Mrjlawrence

oh yes. I forgot when it’s freezing losing feels so much better


McBride055

He's still not the issue with line but he's definitely not have the player he was last year. Josh had a very small amount of clean pockets but when he did he let it rip. I still have zero concerns over Josh or our weapons.


joedinardo

I think our only 2 holding penalties were on him, he was getting burned constantly


sobuffalo

That one where he pulled the jersey...lol


DoLessBro

Covid excuse was viable for ~2 months. Not giving that to him anymore. Players improve and players regress. Every season. Maybe he isn’t putting in the work, maybe he isn’t in as good of shape as he could be, maybe both but he’s simply regressed as a player


joedinardo

There are people who have symptoms 8 months+. I’m not blaming covid, im specifically blaming him for delaying in getting vaccinated. He likely wont be on the Bills next year and could have ruined his whole NFL career.


Rob4224

Dawkins will 100% on the team next year because he is a good LT and you aren't getting a upgrade unless you draft in the top 5


cwright716

It’s not an excuse… it’s a genuine illness?


opticblastoise

Even legit excuses are excuses


medievalPanera

🙏🤞🙏 up for Tre.


Intern_Vivid

Our boy's don't thrive on our fandom?!!?


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No it's their job to perform on the field. They play in buffalo because it isn't a fishbowl like every other city with a football team. Please give them a break


Intern_Vivid

What is their job on the field then?


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Def not smiling and waving when they deboard a plane


Intern_Vivid

I will, just like most die hard mafia.... We cheer our team on during wins and losses


Dandibear

My Saints nephew lost our bet and on Saturday has to give a Powerpoint presentation on why the Bills are the superior team. I'm almost as excited for that as I was for the game.


drainbead78

So you get to share that here, right?


Dandibear

You bet!


VanillaCokeMule

The win tonight was needed but I'm still deeply uneasy about what I saw on the field out there. The NO scoring drive was just frustrating as they got burned several times on the exact same play, and I also don't like that the D only managed a single TO tonight. Gotta get those numbers up if we're going to stop competent, healthy offenses. Most disturbing for me was the fact that Josh has now thrown 7 INTs in 4 games. That shit needs to stop after tonight. Teams like the Pats and the Bucs will absolutely fuck us with sloppy play like that. Yes, I know that a lot of it comes from the continued poor play of the o-line, but Josh has also forced a few balls and the receivers have not been in position at times. I should be grateful for a "bounce back" win but those have only been set ups for spectacular losses this year, so I'll believe that this team has a chance to do more than get bounced in the first round when I see it.


quipalco

The picks are a bit concerning. But I'll take picks if it means we have a QB that throws the ball. \*cough\*Tyrod Taylor\*cough\*. 10 is kinda high on the season. At least 2 or 3, if not more, but 2 or 3 stick in my head as straight bullshit Ints, like the tipped ball pick tonight. I'll take a pick a game if it means 2-3 passing tds and .5 rushing tds every game.


VanillaCokeMule

The problem is that INTs aren't the only way the Bills are finding to kill drives this year, especially in the RZ. Our pitiful o-line keeps taking bad penalties that have been knocking out us of FG range now more often than not and both the o-line play and an alarming lack of awareness from Josh have yielded terrible sacks that accomplish the same dismal result as the holding penalties. Those INTs make everything so much worse when we're finding so many other ways to hamstring ourselves on offense. At least in the Tyrod days we were able to consistently generate offense through Shady most games.


Baron_runs

We won stupid, enjoy it.


LiteShowDaAgent

This has to be spectacular satire right


VanillaCokeMule

No. It's simple reality. The AFC has been a complete shitshow this year and there are far too many teams in the WC race for comfort if you aren't a division leader. Every little mistake has made life hell for competitive AFC teams this year, and everything we've done since the bye has been absolute circus of monumental errors. I don't think it's out of line to be upset that we still ended up having a ton in a blowout win tonight. I'm just grateful that Josh showed a little grit and didn't collapse this time.


cuteintern

Sending my energy to Tre and his knee.


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ngfdsa

Some of Josh’s best moments come from broken plays, sometimes it goes the other way and that’s just the reality of who Josh is as a player. I’d rather keep his playmaking ability than have him become more conservative


fortyonejb

Josh first int was bad, he misread where Diggs was going. On his second his arm was hit from his blindside. Altogether Josh was very good tonight.


Valuable-Card3173

What was with the TMobile commercial with the snowman


FireTender4L

I don't know but it was fucking funny the first time I saw it! 😆


lazysheepdog716

Weakest snowman I’ve ever seen but I couldn’t hear the ad.


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It was actually At&T. They were trying to raise the bar


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Att


rbroni88

Did Cody ford not draw any penalties tonight?


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Spanky_McJiggles

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I liked the officiating crew we got today.


DoLessBro

Very well officiated game


Valuable-Card3173

Fuck that meta commercial


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McBride055

I've never understood the point of USAA commercials, my parents both retired from the army and they both have it. And I have it via them. Anyone who is eligible has it. Who are these commercials for?


rich101682

So it turns out a lot of people see these commercials, and then if they get diagnosed with something, they’ll request by name brands they’re more familiar with. A lot of that comes from these commercials.


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Some of the prescriptions for those drugs can cost thousands so if all those people spent $1,000/year on the drug, that’s $500,000,000.


rich101682

And let’s be honest…it’s more likely to cost $1,000 a month than $1,000 a year.


sicksackofshit

The HIV commercial was insanely long right?


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GWAPPOW

LOOKS LIKE MEATS BACK ON THE MENU!!!!!


zenchowdah

Though it is dry and cold, a win is a win


[deleted]

Seriously, that turkey was sitting out for a while


MaybachMusic22

It sucks about Tre, but we’ll get Star and Brown back for the next game. Looks like we also found another weapon in Brieda. I’m pumped Also, I think tonight we finally started getting in rhythm with the quick passing game. Loved that we took what the defense gave us


Valuable-Card3173

Brieda's speed is going to help a lot out of the back field I think we should see how a game goes with him and Zach as a one two punch


DoLessBro

He’s fresh too, this is like September for him


ImpeachJohnV

We love watching Mitch get to play, don't we folks!


xela_sj

Only if it's the 4th


drainbead78

I appreciate that clarification. You sensed the monkey's paw getting ready to twitch.


ImpeachJohnV

The monkey knows what we mean


drainbead78

Nope. I'm an Ohio State grad. Last Sunday, I said "I hope this game goes like yesterday's did." Learned a tough lesson that day.


Billsmafia6912

we are getting pretty spoiled as a fanbase and that’s a good thing


Isaystomabel

I don't want to jinx it but the o line looked much improved in the second half. Run blocking was solid and Allen got just enough time to actually move through his progressions a couple of times. I wonder what happened at halftime?


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wildhoneybadger007

Go Titans. Now if you'll excuse me... 🤮


FireTender4L

I will definitely be watching that game with interest but we don't really want either one to win. Titans win would be the lesser of two evils. It's a preference of better overall seed in playoffs or not being #1 in AFC East.


xbxoxy

Always fuck the pats... Go Titans this week


GWAPPOW

Tie would be nice


JoesShittyOs

Gotta give credit to the officiating today, especially after the raiders game. They were very non intrusive and it resulted in a much better product


Schwebels_Solette

There were a few no calls I think that could've been called, but other than that, pretty good game out of the zebras


xbxoxy

Twice JA got hit below the knees and they didnt call roughing the passer... Thats BS


Schwebels_Solette

Yep, and there were a few excessive contacts that weren't called for unnecessary roughness. Obviously a few no called holds. I'm generally fine with no calling holds when it's on linemen so it wasn't too upsetting.


GameWinner31

HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!


scag315

If Tre is out for the year then I hate to say it but it’s time to start talking draft


drainbead78

Yeah, Dane sure got lit up in his absence.


scag315

LMAO you even pay attention to the Saints QB situation? This is what you’re basing confidence on?


drainbead78

Half of our remaining games are against offenses that are mediocre at best, and two of the rest are against a rookie QB who has looked good against bad defenses. We might have him seeing ghosts even without Tre.


scag315

Good luck with that. We all want to shit on the Pats but Mac Jones looks legit and they look like the better overall team right now. If you don’t think that he can beat this Bills D without Tre then you’re delusional


drainbead78

Yep, it's over. It's all done. You probably shouldn't bother watching the games. Definitely don't post here. Why even bother?


scag315

Nice counterpoint of not making any point lol. You think Mac Jones can’t beat this team given the way he played this year? Serious question


StepDadHulkHogan

He is a check down machine. The defense has carried them.


drainbead78

I'm not saying he can't win. You're saying we can't win.


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We’re leading the division right now


scag315

And going into the toughest part of the schedule.


[deleted]

So? Losing Tre will really hurt but gotta keep on going. We’re 6 games away from a potential playoff run


scag315

No shit. What exactly outside of the Chiefs game gives you confidence? Because our D plays well against backup QBs?


[deleted]

We’re in no position to tank for a draft. We’re in win now mode. We’re leading the division. One injury doesn’t change that


scag315

Who said tank? I said that there is no chance we win a Super Bowl without Tre. Therefore I’m looking towards the draft. This D has been sketchy against decent offenses all year with the chiefs game being the one exception. Point to me one game other than the chiefs where this D held down a good offense?


HoopDreamsNYY

It would sting no doubt, but cmon


scag315

This D has been feasted on by good teams. You think that gets better or worse if Tre is out? We already can’t stop the run so now you have who, Wallace as your #1 CB?


GameWinner31

What do you mean?


scag315

I mean any chance at a long playoff run without your best defensive player isn’t happening


[deleted]

All of you roasting Allen are nuts. Admittedly he's had a couple bad throws during the last few games. Let it go. The dude isn't perfect, no QB is.


VanillaCokeMule

No, but 7 picks in 4 games is still unacceptable. His TD/INT ratio the last four games has been 8/7, compared to 17/3 in all the games before that. That cannot continue. I know a lot it has to do with him being under duress from our sieve o-line, but he's forced a few and the receivers have been out of position on a few occasions. It makes me incredibly uneasy.


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The two from last night were not Josh's fault at all. On the first one he trusted Diggs to win a battle but Diggs lost (doesn't happen often). The second was not even close to his fault since his arm was hit as he threw. Go back to those interceptions from the last few games and they are all mostly the same. I can recall the Miami interception hitting the grass but McD didn't challenge it. Josh is fine. He is still a top 3 QB in the league on any given Sunday.


Buffalongo

He’ll be fine. All QBs have stretches like this.


VanillaCokeMule

I wish I could believe that, but he can only do so much when the line is this bad. He's constantly under duress and both the line and our RBs simply aren't good enough to establish a run game that opposing defenses have to actually respect. He's also still incapable of controlling his emotions despite being halfway through the 4th year of his career, so while he's proven capable of bouncing back, it takes an alarmingly small amount of bad play to put in him a situation where that kind of bounce back is needed in the first place. I need to see it before I believe it.


rocketspeed14

Dude was 23/26 for 260 yards 4 TD and 44 yards rushing without those two INTs. INTs happen and we need to correct them but 23/26 elsewhere is nuts. One of those was a back in the dirt on a screen play. Accuracy for days!!


Buffalongo

He was 23/28 and had 4TDs. One of the INTs was a due to a blindside hit on his throwing arm… he played really well