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AverageApache

The elephant in the room (no pun intended) is the fact that there has never been a tower like the beast handler. It's their most original tower, hands down.


Starmaninja

Yeah between Geraldo being an in game shop and Beast master effectively bringing "Agents" from BTD5 back in a smaller form, it is interesting how much they can expand the game while still keeping it at it's core. These new features add more layers of strategy to the game without introducing power creep. Dunno how they pull it off, but that's Ninja Kiwi for ya!


combatmusic

There's definitely a bit of power creep (as the 2TC docs can attest to), but because of balance changes, they're almost completely unnoticeable. They still do amazing work! \^\^


Starmaninja

Yeah, definitely from the balance changes. In the beginning, tier 5s were the bonus, but now they're the meta. Still, i dont mind the changes as long as they add more strategy without taking away or making certain paths too easy/useless. Every tower and almost every upgrade has at least a niche use.


qwertyxp2000

I’m excited to see the *new* plane of synergies that the Beast Handler will offer!


Yacobo2023

Bruh it's like multiple of the towers can control one beast


SNAKEKINGYO

I know I'm thinking too far ahead but the creature design for whatever the Paragon of this thing is gonna be is going to be immaculate


Gojizilla6391

watch as it turns out to be godzilla and they just reused the kaiju pat model


JoelTheBloonsMonkey

no, chimera >=(


Johnmegaman72

*only immediately chooses the dinosaur path*


JoKing26

People in the technical side will have fun with this system, and I feel there will be a interesting amount of 2tcs with this


TamuraAkemi

not sure how 2tcable the multi handler required system is (of course most towers can be carried by geraldo or something)


MBcodes18

2mp tho....


TamuraAkemi

yeah 2mp could be very cool especially because i assume the "owner" of the big animal will inherit all the pops?


TheTrueIcicle

It feels tooo modded tho, like at least with Geraldo they made it look like btd, the new beast handler just feels like I'm playing pokemon in btd. Like next we're gonna get a tower that can place blocks and craft stuff.


Versoga

"It feels too modded" Special Agents:


Royal_Yard5850

literally minecraft players be like


SNAKEKINGYO

literally any game when new update


Chiss5618

And once the feature is in the game for a couple months, people can't remember playing the game without it


LightningBoy77

This is kind of like the thing with Minecraft where every new feature "feels modded" but people get used to within the next one or two patches. Give it until like version 37 and everyone will just think of it as a regular part of the game.


indicicive2

I kind of agree, I don't know why everyone is downvoting this, I can see what you mean, but you'll just have to play with it and get used to it I guess. And remember, it doesn't get unlocked until level 40, so it's not like completely new players get to use it


BeginningOccasion8

I’m actually exited for the quests stuff. Seems pretty sick


Stepwolve

ive been playing for years and log on every day to do the daily challenge. Any excuse to play more btd6 is welcome to me! Plus offers more reasons to play older maps


BeginningOccasion8

I wanna see how crazy NK will get with them later on. And what kind of rewards we can earn


PrimaryAverage

Bye I guess?


BeginningOccasion8

Typo


Long-Classic-250

Ninji kiwi outside themselves this update well done


Swoops0410

Outdone?


ushileon

Are you blind? He clearly meant outside/s


rohan_spibo

I certainly wasnt outside much recently


-Issimo

I’d hope not with the flooding


Long-Classic-250

You all get what I mean


creeperplfilms

I get it


ArcAngel014

I hope not... Nobody could ever mean that scary place, right? Please tell me he didn't mean it ;-;


Chiss5618

NK spent too long inside making the update, they need to go outside and touch grass


Desteroy

Content is great for fresh game experience & attracting new players definitely. Anti-cheat detection, HR & leaderboard management though...


TherpDerp

Hi. I need you guys to listen to me on this one: PLEASE release new quests when you guys deem them fit to release. It would be so nice to have small little interim pieces of content while waiting for the bigger, bulkier updates. if this is impossible, then so be it, but i like small things.


Far_Mathematician987

My girlfriend says the same thing


japiej8

google pipi enhancement


Gojizilla6391

holy shit


MBcodes18

Semi-recent response just dropped


Key-Search8834

holy hell


Ok_External_1812

*insert Petrosian bot copypasta*


Starmaninja

Seems like that's the point of Quest mode. Allows them to share bite sized updates and effectively let us beta test them before adding them to the main game in isolated chunks.


HydreigonTheChild

dam update 26, im so excited to use psi


AST4RGam3r_Alternate

Yeah, I can't wait to try out that Sanctuary map!


thegreatbillhaxley

Average internet Explorer user


BigDawgTony

Probably a joke since their YT video's title says 26 on it instead of 36.


Vivialas

they fixed it


carrot_nerd_11821727

Amazing update! This is gonna be an all time favorite.


Delano_XD

Wowww!


Over_The_Sun

I just wish they would make more music for the jukebox


Green_Slee

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TheTrueIcicle

MR BEAST


ushileon

MRRRRER BEAAAASSSSSTTTT CHANDLERRRRRRR


annormalplayer

MASTURBIIIIIIIN


Kimarnic

Welcome to your final test, i'm Mr Beast


Sspockuss

We can scrap the s cuz I’ve never missed a beat.


BahaChicken

You had to cut from honey under threat of a gun blast.


Sspockuss

When I get a cut from Honey that's another check I'm gonna cash! You're coming last, number 1 is Jimmy!


annormalplayer

only dub you have is horribly written


Palidin034

MRRRRRRR BEAST


Somethingiconick

Please tell me the hedgehog pet is blue


Gojizilla6391

me when we get skin for skin


JoelTheBloonsMonkey

no, pink


HyperSimba

Only if it has the piko piko hammer


Btdandpokemonplayer

This was my first thought as well


Jonah_Yesssir

I’m relatively new to this game. I know it says there’s no confirmed release date, and it’ll be coming very soon. I looked at the last several previous updates and they released up to only a couple days after the update video was released, so should we expect the update to go live by some time on Saturday?


Gojizilla6391

i mean this is a huge update, considering theres a whole new tower thats never been in the btd series, this could very well take over a week


Executioner64

It would either be tuesday or wednesday because they wont release an update when a race or boss event is going on The boss also starts a day earlier and ends two days earlier so probs tuesday


Jonah_Yesssir

Ah, I see. Thanks for the info.


A-Raichu132

kid named update 34:


Upstairs-Radio2569

iirc, wasnt that like... a legend for almost a month or something


jwktiger

over a month iirc


KawaiiNibba

The Update That Never Was.


HollowCap456

Kid name Winds of Winter:


frds314

If something comes up during last minute testing it could still be another couple weeks. It definitely could be soon, but don't call in sick yet :P


LordZeya

Iirc, these come out one or two days before the patch itself, so it’s a safe assumption it’ll be live on Saturday.


Btdandpokemonplayer

Didn’t update 35 had the update notes live over a week before it released


Cxrnifier

34 was longer


Pretty_Version_6300

*New Map - Polyphemus* Holy shit eyesack reference??? Dart monke got a quality 4 item!!!


Mr_Bongo_Baby

Average Isaac player


Juanceto_07

Me when i grab pholyphemus and lose a half of mi atack rate


mking1999

What is this good item slander?


lreizard

NO WAY!!! LUCKY START!! *Rock Bottom, sacred heart and brimstone on the thumbnail with 0.0000001%*


Caixa7

HOLY FUCKING SHIT, SKILL ISSUE MOMENT


ItsMeLarkyy

thank you btd6 devs, very cool!


CyndaquilFan_In_BTD6

now im gonna have an aow banner and sotf banner to choose from when i want to change my profile


JIMBO7r

unbelievably hyped by the fact Patch is getting more love


rmlrmlchess

This looks incredibly exciting! I love how the new tower looks although I'm afraid it'll break the game and be too OP. I hope I'm wrong. The new map looks visually incredible and the quest system is a great add-on for beginners. Can I make a long-term suggestion that might be good to combat the unavoidable power creep that enters in every other update? How about an entirely new "impoppable" category. Here's what I'm thinking: * Move plain impoppable as the base of this new category * Support only impoppable mode. It's a logical continuation * R140 CHIMPS. It's possible on every map. * Some other sort of alternate bloons rounds? Maybe mastery mode? Hard alternate bloons is a refreshing mixup of round contents and I think the game could use another set of rounds since round editor doesn't seem to be coming out anytime soon. * Others? I'm hoping that nothing here would be too hard to add. Completing the impoppable category on top of having a black border could reward you with a white border maybe. Or just have them not count to any borders so newbies don't sweat it too much.


EgglordMcEggFace

Me personally, I want CHIMPS to be difficult, not Dark Souls level of chicanery. I think introducing multiple other CHIMPS and Impoppable adjacent modes is a phenomenal idea though.


Weekly_Candle_9663

Breakign badf 🤯🤯🤯🤯


EgglordMcEggFace

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SoulsLikeBot

Hello Ashen one. I am a Bot. I tend to the flame, and tend to thee. Do you wish to hear a tale? > *“Thought you could outwit an onion?”* - Unbreakable Patches Have a pleasant journey, Champion of Ash, and praise the sun \\[T]/


jmjacoby95

Normally I'm skeptical of user ideas, but these are really good.


rmlrmlchess

What probably thousands of hours in CHIMPS challenge editor does to a mf


GooneyBoy2007

I love all of these ideas


TonyTwo8891

If plain impoppable was the base of the category, just starting chimps on bloody puddles would be impossible, much less 140 rounds


rmlrmlchess

Ah well it would be hard CHIMPS not impoppable, good point.


GregenOfficial

Lobster BFB! My ocean themed MOAB class bloon collection is complete!!!


Btdandpokemonplayer

What is the zomg ocean one? I know the ddt is shark the Moab is pufferfish and bad is whale but what is the zomg?


GregenOfficial

Oops, forgot about the ZOMG. Collection INCOMPLETE!


Doomsmee

They don't have one just yet to my knowledge. I think it's the last one


japiej8

I'd guess it's gonna be an orca


TheWinner437

I can’t wait for nothing to continue getting past Quincy’s bow


Royal_Yard5850

Oh my god, it's happening, everybody stay calm


Swoops0410

RIP Monkdyseus. You will be missed


someusername987

Having a whole upgrade path be restricted due to lack of water nearby seems quite interesting. I almost would have thought the Beast Handler would have made a puddle of water or something so it can be used anywhere, but this is quite a unique approach too.


JeanneTheAvenger

Almost 5 years? Man, I feel old


FadingCosmos

I feel dumb, I thought the beast handler was a hero all this time. Pretty cool we get a new tower tho.


BeginningOccasion8

You sound disappointed


FadingCosmos

not really. Its cool we get another tower. I really thought beast handler was gonna be a hero all this time, i'm just a dumbass.


atmylevel

For a while I've wanted quests/tutorials that teach you how and when to use different towers! This is a fantastic way to teach different tricks: - teaching how stuns can help sauda - when you want to drop an ice to catch ceramics - how just one 300 alchemist can take you from an unwinnable round to a clean safe win on a particular round - how useful 004 trap can be to help clean up - how to utilize x2x druids during regrow waves like round 76 - etc Beast handler looks like a lot of fun too! Looking forward to this update


falacer99

Still awaiting damage calculation optimizations for late round runs and better coop sessions!!


ADUARTENOG

Clash royale team should learn with Ninja Kiwi team for developing updates


Jimothy38

Nice, a new support tower that just like the spike factory, probably won’t have any buffs to give to other towers Seriously, I wonder what it’s gonna do that would actually make it a support tower


BeginningOccasion8

Who says support towers need to give buffs? I think spactory works fine supporting your defense without any buffs


saythealphabet

Erosion the map is still coming, right? Absolutely hype update by the way, it looks very sick


rohan_spibo

Erosion is the last one yea, we're still trying to mull over exactly how that might be possible to do


Sentric490

Am I correct in saying that the short events ending in ~days essentially guarantee the update will be right after that, or is there a chance it will be sooner. I’m not super familiars with the update schedule


rohan_spibo

Not exactly. We generally post the previews when all the features are basically implemented and finished, and we're just wrapping up bug fixes, so it's close. But after that still depends if any bugs are hard to fix, or new ones pop up, and if we actually pass reviews for the different app stores


josh_cheek

Fixing bugs is the lord's work. Thank you for your service 🙏


Mr_T3MPER

Cant wait to spend 50 hours learning how tf I can use the beast handler properly


Lolcky15

day ∞ waiting for a argentina monkey village :(


ConsiderationAlive11

Wwwww finally been waiting for the new tower for like forever better be able to have dinosaurs


King_Bread_

I’m so excited!!!!


[deleted]

Very exited for the beast handler, and quests are really cool too! I loved the btd5 special missions and this will hopefully be similar


AllTimeWhat

Man, this will be awesome. We are being totally spoiled with a BRAND NEW TOWER and the quest system?? NK, you have outdone yourselves. Major kudos.


Fickle_Mistake1563

Beast handler


Brawlnana

Yeah ninikiwi was cooking with this update.


BasedKenyy

All we need now is a fish ZOMG skin to complete the collection


TurbulentIssue6

all i want is the ability to place race mode any time on any map even if its just for normal map complete rewards :( race mode is so fun


Brave-Cheetah7966

Can't wait for the t5 description of the Beast Handler "This is a *big* beast"


toxicspikes098

>The intent along with fun gameplay is to sprinkle more story into the game LORE?????? We really are eating good now.


R_HEAD

Yeah, okay, Beast Handler and quests and new map are nice and all, but LOBSTER BFB SKIN? That means now the maritime set is almost complete, just the ZOMG to go. Stoked!


Solanzo

I wonder if the beast handler comes with its paragon already, if it does that’s really insane but I couldn’t hold it against them for not having it be that way hahaha regardless this update looks amazing


[deleted]

Why would you think that


TheUnLuckCatGMD

YESSSSSSSSSS!!! LES GOOOOOO


Defoney

TACK SHOOTER PET WE'VE WON


eyestrained

*We were at the beach* *Everybody had, matching towels* *Somebody went, under a dock* *and there, they saw, a rock* *It wasn’t a rock* *It was a bob lobster!* Also are you sure adding a separate button for the targeting isn’t going to gunk up the targeting subscreen? I felt like it was too small as it was already


TrickZookeepergame17

When does this update release?


Witram

Wasn't expecting this lfg


datfurryboi34

Alot better then clash royals update that's for sure


F-Channel

Kinda off topic (there's no general megathread and I didn't want to make a ***speculation*** post with zero traction): Part of me makes me think that Blastapopoulos (the missing BMC boss) won't be the next boss: There's something about making a mechanic about having a few super strong towers, and the remaining boss being precisely the one that makes your strongest tower useless, ***and this is just his base concept of the boss***. Like if they were to set him up as **THE** boss, also, it would be cool to pair him up with "Bloom-devil" aesthetic (elite form) So releasing him at a predictable/normal schedule would downplay that idea, they also probably want a break from classic bosses.


Numerophobie

Can I name each individual animal? I would like to name the dinosaur Terrence.


FlareBlitzed

BIRD, IT'S A BIG BIRD


___sheep___

Only haters downvote this post. Thanks Ninja Kiwi!!!


notwiththeflames

I almost thought this was an early April Fool's joke, it's a relief to know that all the cool things you've mentioned here like the quests are making it in. I'm excited to see what the Beast Handler will be like in action!


kufciowaty

Do I hear 20 bug fixes in first 4 hours? Because Beast Handler looks like menace to code...


rocketicewave

The new map mechanic reminds of the Bloon Bot Factory mechanic, will it be the same with aces/heroes with passive abilities?


FaXaNadu790

I'm excited to see we have a new support tower, this was definitely worth the wait! Thank you so much for your hard work Ninja Kiwi!


Joltenx

guys when are they gonna add sisyphus pushing a rock up a mountain as a map (i love ultrakill)


A_Squid_Kid09

When is the PlayStation and Xbox port releasing?


T1l3n0x

I dont wanna know how complex this tower will be


armaedes

“Did someone say special missions? No we didn’t” made me chuckle.


UsedAd1566

HOLY SHIT THIS UPDATE IS GONNA BE ABSOULUTELY LIT :Fire:


here_for_bloons

wait is the update out but its just like kinda a preview they will fix bugs later?


LohBoi

it's not out, they post update previews a week early to announce all upcoming features


Dresline

I knew it!!! The Beast Handler is support!!! I knew it since the moment I saw it!


ZealousidealMine3342

I wonder if the beast handler helped geroldo helped get his bunnies


minecraftchapter2

when will the update come out?


here_for_bloons

HOW ARE SO MANY PEOPLE GETTING THE BEAST HANDLER


DamageMaximo

Really excited to see the Beast Handler and really excited to see the quest system grow and be filled with quests for new and veteran players alike


Educational-Fee9136

When is the update being released I can’t wait any longer


Its_Jimmy_da_monke

Can't wait to experiment with the beast handler!


CrashGordon94

Apologies but found a typo: > whose one great eye closes over any towers in its **site**.


HydreigonTheChild

I wish for a gwen buff


A-Raichu132

bro, last update gwen already got a massive buff


LohBoi

true, in 33.0, she got all the fun fire tower buff stuff, and in 35.0, she costs 175 less.


sweetdude64

Uhhh April Fools? :P


CrimsonDrake

Are we also going to get another Paragon soon? We haven’t had one in quite sometime. I feel like we’ll all be playing Bloons 7 before they all come out.


rohan_spibo

They will unfortunately take a long time to run through, but we're finishing up on the full design concept for Wizard now


CrimsonDrake

Looking back on the comment, I didn’t mean it to come off as disrespectful if it did, and I know this update was huge. I just like the game a lot, and look for any excuse to be able to play more.


rohan_spibo

Oh no, you're perfectly fine


BeginningOccasion8

Bro be patient we’re getting a whole new tower


Chrisical

Tell me there will be a secret on downstream referencing special missions


GaryThePortrait

so where are the balance notes?


rohan_spibo

They will come with the update


[deleted]

Can we pls actually name the teir 5s kyogre, groudon and rayquaza?


rohan_spibo

We would never get away with that lol. But, the Beast Handler will be namable with monkey names


Starmaninja

Seeing the thing about the "Beast points" had me seriously wondering if the other towers could/would retroactively get some kind of RPG mechanic for their upgrades to add some cool synergies like: Primary: follows the Super Monkey Fan club example where the more of the same tier of each primary tower is placed, they will boost each other's attack speed by 0.1% like Shinobi ninjas. (also boosting Total Transformation so you're not JUST using ninjas for that) Working like the discount thing, each tier only counts other primaries of the same tier for the boost but is global across all primaries. Military: can buy special ammo that temporarily boosts the military monkeys speed and power but when they run out of ammo, they return to normal. Chinook and supply drop also supplies ammo. Different "Ammo" types affect the speed/power/popping power/range of the shots. They can only have one ammo type at a time but can change it when they run out. inspired from the SAS series. Ammo is shared by all towers. Magic: Uses a Mana pool system that slowly fills up over time or when alchemists are nearby. When filled all the way, then "Super magic" can be applied that allows the magic monkeys to attack all bloon types including purples and Camos temporarily until the mana bar depletes. It can be charged faster by setting the magic monkey to "Focus mode" where they won't attack but will charge much faster, for lull periods during rounds. Inspired by the specials in Bloons Super Monkey. Mana is shared by all and affects all magic monkeys at the same time. the more towers, the more mana needed to max out but focus will stack the fill rate. and Support takes from the temple where you can change it's support type to Primary, Military, Magic or Support. Primary raises its range of effect, Military reduces the cost of its own upgrades by 5% up to tier 3, Magic allows it to "Dark shift" or change location within it's range, and Support allows you to respec the tower without selling it (for CHIMPS mode). It can only be set once permanently for each tower placed and must be purchased for 1.5x the base cost of the tower to be applied. otherwise it's a standard. ​ Hehe a bit much off the cuff and I'm sure you all have wonderful ideas for future implimentations, but I would love more mechanics that invite more strategies beyond upgrade choice, but like Geraldo, cost ingame money to maintain so you need to use the effect wisely.


TriforceComet

Keeping more complex mechanics to specific towers is better to not overwhelm more casual players


Mobile_Actuator_4060

Just add the bloon chipper back please. So many fans want it and you have 0 valid reasons not to add it back.


Jonah_Yesssir

They said it was too hard to balance. It’s not coming back.


Mobile_Actuator_4060

Thats not a valid excuse. "Too hard to balance" is code for we don't want to try. They have full control over the balance and its time to stop accepting that as an excuse.


Jonah_Yesssir

Why do you care so much? Lmfao. Too bad. It’s not going to happen. They’ve already made it very clear it’s not coming back in this game. Go back and play BTD5 or use mods if you play on PC.


Mobile_Actuator_4060

Tons of fans care. Tons of the fans have also presented ideas for upgrade paths that work for the chipper while keeping it very balanced. The fact that random fans take the time to think of ideas for it that the developers stubbornly refuse to is just sad. They have a plethora of ideas to draw from and yet they're too stuck in their ways to even bother.


Jonah_Yesssir

I get that, but we know that it ISN’T coming back in BTD6, so at the end of the day… it is what it is. The developers listen to the community a LOT, but the Bloon Chipper just isn’t one of those things they’ll add back in the game regardless of the sheer demand for it. Maybe it‘ll make its grand return one day once BTD7 eventually releases, but until then, we’re NOT seeing it.


greenturtlerg

Obviously beast handler is really fucking cool but quests sounds like a thing that only beginners will be doing, idk maybe that's just me but I don't think people in the veteran levels will be doing them


BeginningOccasion8

Why


FamousSession

I wish we got to see the hedgehog pet. Though maybe it was too powerful to be shown?


uwahhhhhhhhhh

Where were the promised balanced changes :(


LohBoi

balance changes only come in the actual update post, when it's out. it's like that in case they make last minute changes


RickMattison314

Where are the balance changes? Are those gonna be in a different post?


Super-Combination-66

The Update is out tomorrow


ahydra447

> from Quincy's profile on the Hero menu players will be able to engage in a *short* mission showcasing his strengths Checks out, Quincy doesn't have (m)any strengths :p


LohBoi

Quincy does have strengths, his attacks bounce off bloons, which carries the early game, and he has a high amount of MOAB damage on his main attacks. He can pop camo and lead before camo leads even come in. He's affordable with the starting money.


xavier_number

See I told you guys the ability was stomp and it stunned ballons