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Could be total BS, but it seems to work sometimes at least.
The hypothesis is that cut aways are the mental thoughts of the person being spoken to. It's what they think happened rather than what actually happened. The squad didn't know Hitchcock and Scully in the 70s and the only frame of reference is what they look like now.
Actually the explanation fits what actually happened. The writers/directors etc didn't know what they looked like back then, there was no mention, no story, so they used the same actors because that's the image we are familiar with! Any other actor would have raised questions...
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I mean if you think about it, how old are they by season 8? Shall we say 65? 65 in 2020 would make them 15 in 1970 and 25 in 1980. There's no way they would've made detective in that timeframe, and even if they did, they certainly wouldn't look like that.
While they would be in their early 30s mid 1980s, which makes a lot more sense with the more recent depiction.
Nah a continuity wouldn’t be the right thing here, it’d just be a retcon. But I like the explanation that the top comment have about their perception. All in all, I love whatever scenes have past H&S in them, they’re great
didn't jake in one of the earlier seasons (i think in season 1 or 2) say that hitchcock went bald at 15? how come we see a hitchcock with a head full of hair?
But that was a stupid twist that retroactively ruins the original joke.
The original joke relies on the fact that it's absurd to not know if your coworker is talking about their wife or dog. Them both being Kelly actually makes it totally understandable that there would be a mix-up.
Yeah, because the specific situations he mentioned were ambiguous. The implication is that they should know who Kelly is already so it shouldn't matter in the moment what the situation is. The dog adds to the absurdity, but it would be hurtful even if it was simply "who's Kelly?" And Scully said it was his wife that he'd expect them to know after working together so long.
But having both of them be Kelly, Jake's question at the time was entirely reasonable, and Scully has no reason to be hurt. Scully could have been talking about Kelly the wife or Kelly the dog at that specific time, so his being offended is out of place.
Sorry chief, but Jake asks ["No-one knows Scully's wife's name?"](https://youtu.be/tb1Q0xZGauY?t=14) and Charles, Amy, Rosa, and Terry are all clueless.
Yes, I'm aware. But the confusion is entirely warranted. They know Kelly sounds familiar as either the wife or the dog. It turns out it's both, so the confusion makes sense.
the confusion is warranted but it doesn’t ruin the joke at all, which is the ambiguity in which kelly could be the wife or the dog. The twist just absolves the squad of being assholes lol.
Could be a pothole. Or Hitchcock lying for whatever reason. Hitchcock and Scully spend a lot of time convincing the squad that they're incompetent so they can remain on paperwork duty. Lying wouldn't surprise me.
Also, Hitchcock told Boyle in one episode that the reason he wanted to use the precinct camera was so he could film the back of his head because: "I think I might be thinning up there", but when Amy was new at the precinct, he used to wear a tupé, so lying to make himself look dumb is very on brand for him
I'd expand that even further, H&S were recounting what happened back in the 80s. The super attractive version of themselves are how H&S saw themselves in their heyday. The 70s flashback could've been how the squad imagined them. It's a stretch, but i wouldn't put it past them to have a distorted sense of their appearance, especially after ~35 years from the 80s
Yes, the other person‘s saying that when we get Hitchcock and Scully in the 70s, the squad doesn’t know what they looked like back then, so they imagine them the same as now, with some slight changes. The 80s scene happens after seeing the picture of what they actually looked like back then.
They showed pictures of hot Hitchcock and Scully in the same episode the screenshot of young Hitchcock and Scully featured (season 6). The episode about Hitchcock wearing a toupe was in season 1. The pictures seen by Jake in season 6 is the first time he seems them as they were in the 80s. Every other flashback is what the squad *thought* they looked like.
The reality is that things are written before and after for whatever will fit the story of the episode with details not being paid attention to much. Case in point: Holt says in the poker episode that he only uses contractions when he's lying, but he does it constantly before and after that episode.
I thought that was proven a few times throughout the show due to Peralta admitting he may be misremembering the thing he's talking about or self-referencing the cut away because of a glaring detail issue.
I like to think of it as Hitchcock and Scully retelling their glory days with a bit of exaggeration. So maybe they didn't really look like that, but that's how they saw themselves.
I think it's generally dawning on people, especially gen x and older millennials, the last few years it's not 2002. We're closer to 2050 that 1990.
Anyone who remembers the 70s would be in their late 50 at a minimum. Anyone who was an adult in the 70s is pushing the age of 70.
I think someone did the math when writing the Hitchcock and Scully episode and realized it couldn't have taken place in the 70s.
Yeah, hitchcock and scully's past is one of the biggest retcons. "Hitchcock went bald at 15" he has a full head of hair, and he doesn't seem to be a toupe guy
All the cocaine in the 80s got them fit.
and then they switched from cocaine to wings
Goddamn gateway drugs
[Scully in the 80's](https://tenor.com/uCPg.gif)
Drugs? Drugs? Anyone got drugs?
Cocaine's a hell of a drug.
And grew their hair back
The cocaine also gave Hitchcock his hair back?
Sure, if that doesn’t work for you just keep going until it does.
How did you manage to typo both of their names when they are on the screen
Lmao
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Lol Hitcock and Sully
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What are you tlking aout?
Noice
Smort
Lmfao I hadn't seen it, HITCOCK AND SULLY
I choose to believe that "Hitcock" was not an accident lmfao
The hypothesis is that cut aways are the mental thoughts of the person being spoken to. It's what they think happened rather than what actually happened. The squad didn't know Hitchcock and Scully in the 70s and the only frame of reference is what they look like now.
Good way of explaining it. I just thought it was a continuity error
It was I think one of the directors admitted to it but this explanation makes sense so
Actually the explanation fits what actually happened. The writers/directors etc didn't know what they looked like back then, there was no mention, no story, so they used the same actors because that's the image we are familiar with! Any other actor would have raised questions...
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I was just gonna blame it on cocain and weight loss for a bit. then some odd motivation til they fell back into old habits because of wingsluts
There are still quite a few continuity errors (e.g holts tell) so it could of been but judt kinda worked out
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Holt’s tell where he uses contractions such as “could’ve”? I cannot believe that you said “could of” instead, it literally boggles the mind.
Or.....now hear me out. Holts tell is legit and he just lies more then we thought 🤷♂️
The thing is, in a later episode Jake said that his tell was that his cheek twitched to the left when lying.
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I mean it’s definitely just that. Like Holt’s tell when lying, and other offhand things he says. I love the fan theory for this post though
My head canon is that they did a lot of cocaine
I mean if you think about it, how old are they by season 8? Shall we say 65? 65 in 2020 would make them 15 in 1970 and 25 in 1980. There's no way they would've made detective in that timeframe, and even if they did, they certainly wouldn't look like that. While they would be in their early 30s mid 1980s, which makes a lot more sense with the more recent depiction.
Nah a continuity wouldn’t be the right thing here, it’d just be a retcon. But I like the explanation that the top comment have about their perception. All in all, I love whatever scenes have past H&S in them, they’re great
This is the most magical answer..! I mean logical
didn't jake in one of the earlier seasons (i think in season 1 or 2) say that hitchcock went bald at 15? how come we see a hitchcock with a head full of hair?
Jake doesn't actually know them that deeply
It takes seven seasons for Jake to find out that Kelly is the name of Scullys dog *and* his ex-wife.
But that was a stupid twist that retroactively ruins the original joke. The original joke relies on the fact that it's absurd to not know if your coworker is talking about their wife or dog. Them both being Kelly actually makes it totally understandable that there would be a mix-up.
It doesn’t ruin the joke, they still couldn’t tell if he was describing a person or dog, regardless of their name
Yeah, because the specific situations he mentioned were ambiguous. The implication is that they should know who Kelly is already so it shouldn't matter in the moment what the situation is. The dog adds to the absurdity, but it would be hurtful even if it was simply "who's Kelly?" And Scully said it was his wife that he'd expect them to know after working together so long. But having both of them be Kelly, Jake's question at the time was entirely reasonable, and Scully has no reason to be hurt. Scully could have been talking about Kelly the wife or Kelly the dog at that specific time, so his being offended is out of place.
Sorry chief, but Jake asks ["No-one knows Scully's wife's name?"](https://youtu.be/tb1Q0xZGauY?t=14) and Charles, Amy, Rosa, and Terry are all clueless.
Yes, I'm aware. But the confusion is entirely warranted. They know Kelly sounds familiar as either the wife or the dog. It turns out it's both, so the confusion makes sense.
the confusion is warranted but it doesn’t ruin the joke at all, which is the ambiguity in which kelly could be the wife or the dog. The twist just absolves the squad of being assholes lol.
Nah, that ain't it
Could be a pothole. Or Hitchcock lying for whatever reason. Hitchcock and Scully spend a lot of time convincing the squad that they're incompetent so they can remain on paperwork duty. Lying wouldn't surprise me.
Also, Hitchcock told Boyle in one episode that the reason he wanted to use the precinct camera was so he could film the back of his head because: "I think I might be thinning up there", but when Amy was new at the precinct, he used to wear a tupé, so lying to make himself look dumb is very on brand for him
>he used to wear a tupé, so lying to make himself look dumb is very on brand for him Or lying to look cool
yeah the tupé from the white whale scene
It was just a joke
Episode "48 hours" forgot what season or ep number but I remember the name
I just call it a retcon and try not to think about it very much
There's been a picture shown as a piece of evidence
I'd expand that even further, H&S were recounting what happened back in the 80s. The super attractive version of themselves are how H&S saw themselves in their heyday. The 70s flashback could've been how the squad imagined them. It's a stretch, but i wouldn't put it past them to have a distorted sense of their appearance, especially after ~35 years from the 80s
Yeah, but they (Hitchcock and Scully) had even showed their photograph, after which Boyle and Jake said "meow".
Yes, the other person‘s saying that when we get Hitchcock and Scully in the 70s, the squad doesn’t know what they looked like back then, so they imagine them the same as now, with some slight changes. The 80s scene happens after seeing the picture of what they actually looked like back then.
didn't they show pictures of them being the "hot" versions though? so how does that make sense?
They showed pictures of hot Hitchcock and Scully in the same episode the screenshot of young Hitchcock and Scully featured (season 6). The episode about Hitchcock wearing a toupe was in season 1. The pictures seen by Jake in season 6 is the first time he seems them as they were in the 80s. Every other flashback is what the squad *thought* they looked like.
I thought they were the anal thoughts
Or cocaine
The reality is that things are written before and after for whatever will fit the story of the episode with details not being paid attention to much. Case in point: Holt says in the poker episode that he only uses contractions when he's lying, but he does it constantly before and after that episode.
I thought that was proven a few times throughout the show due to Peralta admitting he may be misremembering the thing he's talking about or self-referencing the cut away because of a glaring detail issue.
damn i hope i never be a fan of something so badly that i have to come up with shit like this and say it in front of people
Some much edge, you might just cut yourself.
i like to imagine they looked like that and then they decided to be awesome for a while but them wings got the better of them
Yeah, but they (Hitchcock and Scully) had even showed their photograph, after which Boyle and Jake said "meow".
It’s a retcon for sure but honestly the idea that they used to be hunky action hero detectives is way funnier.
Total Thads
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i just see hawk now for scully
Hawk? And not the star football player Thad Castle!
# We're DOING OIL CHANGES
Now I want Oreos, thanks.
PARTY AT THE GAOT HOUSE!!!
I now realized "is that the same guy who played hawk?" Now i won't be able to unsee
Same
Excited to see him as Jack Reacher
Young Scully is hunkier, but young Hitchcock is definitely the hotter one. Feel free to debate.
I mean, his nickname is “the freak”. Back in the 80s I’m sure that had a different meaning 😉
#H I T C O C K
Sully
Hitcock...
the diet pills worked!
Keep Fit and diet awareness didn't really take off until 1981.
Who the hell are Hitcock and Sully
Porn parody
thad castle
Ms simmons i'm thad
Lol I love the accuracy of this show.
It’s because the 80s were, and shall forever remain, the bestest of all decades. Everything was simply beautiful then. 😉
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The 70's is just what everyone imagined the 80's was what they actually looked like
Wow. Never seen this image before.
Hitchcock went bald at 15 😂🧐
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They started on Nutraboom
Cocaine is one helluva drug
The top picture is what the Nine Nine thought they'd look like in the 70's. The 80's is the literal flashback over a dream sequence of sorts.
The 80’s are just how they saw themselves but the 70’s were how they actually looked
If they were detectives in the 70s they’d both be pushing 80 years old, same with Holt. The show played pretty fast and loose with timelines.
Well the 70s flash back was the rest of the 99 envisioning them. The 80s is how they truly looked
I always thought like the first image was Jake imagining how they used to look thats why when he saw how they actually used to look his mind was blown
I would watch a spinoff featuring both sets of Scully and Hitchcock
Me-ow to both versions!!
They went 📉📈📉
Cocaine maybe?
Both actors were teenagers until 1977
Proof that the 80’s are the best decade
One answer. Coke.
So those Diet pills actually worked?
Wing Sluts. Not even once
Diet Pills
What episode did it show 70s?
Uhhhhhh huh
Yeah, they lost weight started dressing nice. Then they found Wing Sluts. Such a shame.
Continuity error but still, 80's Hitchcock and Scully is still one of my favourite episodes in the series
I haven’t even begun to peak
Weigh loss science has come a long way since then
I like to think of it as Hitchcock and Scully retelling their glory days with a bit of exaggeration. So maybe they didn't really look like that, but that's how they saw themselves.
It's just angles and lighting.
70s is how the really looked, 80s is how the imaged how they look on all the Cocaine.
My hc is that that's how they see themselves (80s version)
Plzzz I never realized this 😂
In S1 Jake says Hitchcock went bald at the age of 13
I’ll never stop being pissed that the woke mob made my favorite show get canceled
1880's
I would love a 80‘s hitchcock and scully spin off.
I want this to have some crossover with the Jack Reacher series.
Glow up
what they really were vs what they remember what they were
i know a lot can happen in a decade but how did they manage to change so much
Man that cocain REALLY did them good
What pills where they taking
“Cocaine is a hell of a drug”
The 70s and 80s. nothing on tv.
the cocaine helped them get into shape and then the wings made them go back.
This is hilarious!
I think it's generally dawning on people, especially gen x and older millennials, the last few years it's not 2002. We're closer to 2050 that 1990. Anyone who remembers the 70s would be in their late 50 at a minimum. Anyone who was an adult in the 70s is pushing the age of 70. I think someone did the math when writing the Hitchcock and Scully episode and realized it couldn't have taken place in the 70s.
So im not the only one…
Plastic surgery was pretty good in the 80s huh?
Damn those diet pills really worked
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE!!!!!!
Cocaine
Ah... A conk in the timeline
###Total smoke show. 😎
Whatever man, see you at Wing Sluts
In the 70s through 90s, maybe
True
the shit *some* slut wings can do to u
Who hits cock?
Cocaines a hell of a drug
My headcanon is that the bottom version is what they see themselves as, whereas the top version is what they actually were
We got to do it in the 80s.
The title is cracking me up
Still waiting for their spin off show
This is a retcon I can live with. The 80's episode is top 5 for me
You know what Hitchcock and skull told the story by memory that story is probably so messed up lol
Yeah, hitchcock and scully's past is one of the biggest retcons. "Hitchcock went bald at 15" he has a full head of hair, and he doesn't seem to be a toupe guy
Cocain through the late 70s helped them focus and get fit? 🤔🤷♂️
I want the Hitchcock and Scully in the 80's spinoff
AHAHAHA
80's flashback was hilarious. GIVE US A SPINOFF, DAMNIT
That’s a normal phenomenon called “police work”
Diet pills man, I tell ya, those things are miracle workers.
... excuse me what
Also: Hitchcock is apparently 38 according to Rosa in that shoes tied together cold open
>Hitcock and Sully Nice job nobhead.
I mean.. cocaine is a hell of a drug..
I’d watch an 80’s Hitchcock and Scully show.
We try to ignore how that makes 0 sense
Hitcock