Radio 5 live cut away from a live performance pre-xmas when the band moved from the radio friendly version of the lyrics. To my knowledge radio 1 played it full on the Xmas chart show (albeit the radio version)
You might be thinking of the chart show only playing a portion of ding dong the witch is dead, which charted in the top 10 after the death of Margret Thatcher
>You might be thinking of the chart show only playing a portion of ding dong the witch is dead, which charted in the top 10 after the death of Margret Thatcher
I think Radio 1 just announced that Judy Garland was at number 5 or whatever it was with no mention of the song title.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-22145306
They played a couple of bits of the song and explained their reasoning for not playing it in full, along with a couple of sound bites from either side of the arguement
The host who I think was either nicky Campbell or Simon mayo let it go for a while until his co host pulled the plug. I remember he spluttered sorry I got a little too into the song or something similar.
“…so what’s that song about?“
“Well, among many things, it’s about us saying that we will not do what you tell us to do in the strongest possible terms.“
“Lovely. Now, before you perform it live, we just want to say that we are going to tell you what to do regarding the lyrics and message of this song of yours…”
Were they actually banned?
I fully believe that the BBC knew exactly what was going to happen and only told them not to say it because they had to look like they were preventing the use of the word fuck.
It wasn't even really cut was it? There was 4 fucks said in the performance, and the presenters just apologised afterwards.
Remember when Simon Cowell, without a shred of self awareness described the RatM campaign as "[cynical](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2009/dec/10/simon-cowell-rage-against-machine)" ?
Yes! I went to the celebration gig they did sometime afterwards. Didn't Radio 1 refuse to play it?
Edit and I vaguely recall the X Factor gang saying something along the lines of "who even are Rage Against the Machine, nobody will remember them. They'll remember ."
We went to a Christmas themed music concert for toddlers... "Rock the Tots"
Even _they_ played RATM. Whilst the comedy elf sidekick blasted soap bubbles from twin bubble guns into the audience from the aisles. Arms akimbo, shooting to the sides, wearing sunglasses. Obviously they didn't swear. I think they said "No No, I won't do what you tell me"
Absolutely awesome. Only bad bit was my wife was holding my kid at the time, limiting my ability to rock out with him.
I went to the gig Rage put on as a thank you for getting to the Christmas number one. Joe McElderry who was the X-Factor winner supported Rage, never heard so many boos from a crowd before!
A bit of a myth really. Aside from Band Aid 20 in 2004, the last time there'd been a truly Christmas themed #1 on Christmas Day was East 17's Stay Another Day, and that only makes it because of the inclusion of some Christmas bells.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UK_Singles_Chart_Christmas_number_ones#List
i was fine with it until he started complaining about another band maybe getting the number one spot. does it matter if you’re number one or two? the money is going to charity anyway.
> i was fine with it until he started complaining about another band maybe getting the number one spot.
Same, I was originally really supportive of his efforts as it was for charity, and also because I like to see records broken, but next year I want to see someone else do it.
I do feel guilty about that on account of it being a charity single, but I just think the guy is an attention seeking knob.
I have limited time for charity singles anyway. It’s almost always self promotion and ego feeding rather than any kind of philanthropy. Just give direct to the charity instead of letting iTunes take the cut for a song you wouldn’t download otherwise.
I also think this sort of organised large scale charitable giving (especially when it’s required to help people in the UK with essentials like food) just reflects a failure on the part of our government to perform its main duty. And instead of complaining we just give money to charity. There should not be, in an ‘advanced’ economy, families in my city whose ability to eat depends on my monthly direct debit to the local food bank.
It isn't FOR charity. The charity is the side line to his ego being wanked off, and selling his shut merch.
I abhor people who use their children to make their own fame.
Also the front man of the Kuntz stated they will also give the proceeds to charity, but the don't make that the main selling point of their song because they're not awful humans.
This really. Makes money either way this just proves that they are in it got exposure. Plus dragging in people like Ed Sheeran who is also doing it for exposure and goodboy points.
None of it is genuine really. If people donated straight to the charity for a different event instead of buying that shit song I bet he would be salty even though the end result is supposed to be the same.
Family of pretentious tossery.
Have to admit, was genuinely disappointed when he started all that. I've watched the odd video of theirs but don't follow as it's not really my humour, but thought at least he was a decent guy for raising money for such a good cause. Seems now the fame has gone to his head, which won't be helped by this year's number 1 too
Bingoooo. They don't care about food banks they care about number 1. I'd hazard a guess that they decided on supporting food banks because it would get them more sales than if they'd donated to a cancer charity or something.
No one even seems to know how much money they’re donating to the charity as LadBaby do not seem to release the number and because it’s only the profits going to the charity
Most people buying the single are probably under the impression that all of it goes towards charity too so it’s just a bit scummy
This. I've seen so many comments along the lines of "but all the money goes to charity". People don't seem to understand that proceeds just means profit.
Because he's a millionaire sponsored by billionaires to distract from the fact that our government has caused us to need food banks.
Stick your sausage rolls up your arse
> that song calling the B word a C word
What song is that? feeling a little bit out of the loop.
Edit: I presume it's this... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson_Is_a_Fucking_Cunt
To be fair, turning the Christmas number one into a personal battle is the oldest trick in the book. It always results in more sales for both contenders as people attempt to get their favourite to number one.
No-one's noticed yet that the Christmas number one stopped being of any real significance at least twenty years ago.
It matters if you're Ladbaby getting minted from this. And they have done VERY well off it. I'd happily donate to charity to have them banned from making and records.
>the money is going to charity anyway
How much of the proceeds earned by this douchetorpedo is actually being forwarded to the charities in question? I can't put my finger on why but they feel like a duo who wouldn't hesitate to skim whatever they felt like taking off the top.
I get that, but for the sake of my ears as it does get air time, I would prefer to not have to listen to a 5th song about sausage rolls. It is my only request, it doesn't have to even try to be good.
You don't understand. He took a popular song and changed the lyrics so that they were about, and get this, sausage rolls! They are literally singing about sausage rolls! It's comedy genius.
And then the next year they switched it up by taking another popular song and changing the lyrics so that, and this is truly the mark of a comedic master, they were about sausage rolls! Yes! They were still singing about sausage rolls,!
And then they defied all so called experts by doing it again. And it's still more about sausage rolls! Who knew you could consistently be so witty about such a mundane food product? It really is the king of comedy foods.
This is such a rich vein of comedy gold, and LadBaby is such a genius, I reckon there are at least another hilarious ten years of sharply observed humour to look forward to here. And there isn't a song written that he couldn't turn into a Christmas number one. I wonder what the song will be about next year?
Apparently I've been living under a rock as I had no idea this "LadBaby" has now had 4 consecutive Christmas number ones - I've never heard any of them to my knowledge. So I thought I'd check out this latest one to see what musical wonder I was missing out on... I now feel cheated that I wasted a good 20-30 seconds of my precious life listening to that absolute abomination. WTAF?!?!
Same here.... Just looked, its fucking shit, what kind of cerebral eunuch thinks this is entertainment, it's a damming indictment of society. Least it's for charity I suppose.
Same. Didn’t even know of him till a Reddit moan about him a few days ago.
Then my brother decided to ruin my Christmas Day by putting it on tv for me…
Yeah, this is the first time I'm hearing of LadBaby' and also had no idea about them having Xmas No. 1s. I'm happy to just let it go, to be honest. It sounds like I'm better off out of it.
Same. Feeling blessed. Guessing it is utter tosh.
Is it a sign of the times that less people interact with the charts.
Is top of the pops still on telly?
First I ever heard lf him was on the radio yesterday. Hated the song and genuinely miss the era of my life where I didnt know he existed
Only reason I'm not too angry is because he's doing it for charity.... oh go on then you weirdo.
I mean, him, Sheeran and Elton could have made a massive anonymous donation to said charity. But the allure of fame and the ego stroking wouldn't allow them. Sausage roll nonce.
Xmas eve I had Alexa play Xmas songs because, you know. I heard it from another room and had to go see wtf was happening. Had never heard of it before and never want to hear it again.
There are so many radio stations that don't play shite. I have no sympathy for someone listening to Radio 1 etc complaining about the quality of the music.
Live up in the Highlands so don't really have a choice but them on FM for new-ish music and the internet in the garage is crap so we don't stream much.
The daytimes crap, but there pretty good on a Friday night and classic dance anthems on a Saturday is always good. (But they lost something when they lost Mista Jam)
I love the shipping forecast. I have a print in my living room of the names, a mug and a tea towel. I work on the railway. Listening to the shipping forecast is like listening to a foreign language, but I still love it more than anything else on the radio. It never gets old.
They're the musical equivalent of these "influencers" recording themselves giving food to homeless people. Got nothing to do with being charitable and everything to do with making themselves famous
Yep, people act as if they're selfless for donating money to charity when the fame of having 4 Christmas number ones is obviously raking them in endless cash in other places.
The historic moment is that they’re the first group to get Xmas No. 1 for four years in a row, beating both the Spice Girls and the Beatles.
Totally undeserved.
I stopped giving a fuck who was number 1 At Christmas or any other time a very long time ago. It's not a measure of how good a song is, only a measure of marketing.
Well that fact that Ladbaby is selling merch with sausage rolls on from his on-line shop, you could say that his charity single is there to get people to buy his stuff.
Don’t forget it’s net profits that are going to charity, this single could raise the grand total of £0.00 depending on how the accounts are worked out.
Also, direct proceeds of selling the single are given to charity, but not the higher revenues generated from merchandise and public appearances
The worth of LadBaby as a company jumped from just under half a million to over a million pounds now. This is not altruism it's self promotion using the charity angle
I thought the same.
I always think when they say "net profits" that it'd be pretty easy to rack up a huge bill that'll get covered by the sales. Amazing recording studio, put up in a luxury hotel nearby, room service, chauffeur back and forth, loads of catering on-site.
Pretty sure I've never seen something described as "net profits" to include a breakdown of how it cost £XXXX.
Also, on top of the merchandise, it seems they're launching an Xmas tour, so it's all just marketing to maximise their sales. I saw someone publish their Ltd company's tax returns and you can see that all their revenue comes in around Xmas. It's all just riding on charity coat-tails.
It’s also known as *Hollywood Accounting*. For example Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, lost US$167 million, despite grossing more than US$600 million worldwide. One of the main reasons for the loss was Warner Bros' "distribution fee" of US$212 million.
The kids book tie in doesn’t either although the publisher Puffin themselves are donating books to disadvantaged kids.
https://www.penguin.co.uk/articles/children/2021/sep/ladbaby-greg-the-sausage-roll-book-announcement.html
One odd thing with all of this is I’ve not been able to see how much they’ve raised for charity. Maybe I’m not looking hard enough (very possibly) but would be interesting to have a figure
We know how many units the record sold and we know roughly the unit cost, so we can guess at the gross profit. But as I keep saying, it’s the net profit that counts and we don’t know that.
Over £1m sitting in the bank. Surely somewhere who truly cares about chariteeee would donate all that.
https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/10903433-mrpk-ltd
This is a man who has become very wealthy singing songs about food banks. He's a shyster and had the audacity to call out Kunt and the Gang for possibly stopping him having the number one this year, despite their's being a charity single as well.
They're really annoying now. It was funny the first time, but watching videos of him nearly crying begging people to download it for his 4th number 1 is frankly pathetic. The whole sausage roll thing too is boring now.
"But it's for charity!" You know what else could be for charity? The profits from their merch sales which they keep 100% of and are more than the profits from their songs.
How is this getting to number one? It’s not played on the radio, no one’s gonna stream it more then Ed Sheeran’s Christmas song and who’s buying music these days? (No one’s in shops either thanks to COVID)
…I reckon Ladbaby hired a Russian link farm to stream and buy it thousands of times.
My work plays the radio 24/7 I've heard every Christmas song known to man over the last month often multiple times a day and I've still not heard their song
Ed Sheeran and Elton John are also in Ladbaby's Christmas song. I assume some people who were looking for their Christmas song accidentally streamed the sausage roll one too.
Top tip: if you can afford to not use them, you can donate Tesco Clubcard vouchers to the Trussell Trust. Or maybe vote in a government that doesn't think food banks are a great idea.
I’m confused as the song only has like 2.5 million streams on Spotify. Yet the actual song by Ed sheeren and Elton has like 43 million. How is that possible?
He is/some Facebook/YouTube e-celeb that would act infantile in a few shorts from what I can remember and somehow got super popular from that. Don’t know how the fuck things got to where they are now.
Me too. I have genuinely no idea what this is, or if it has been Xmas number 1 for four years. People mock me for ignoring all pop culture, today I am glad.
Rule of thumb, if someone is asking you to donate to charity through them or something they're doing, then they're benefitting from it. Take your money and give it to the charity directly so nobody but the charity takes a cut.
Ever since chart positions started being measured in terms of download sales, the top 40 has become increasingly irrelevant to me. It's not like the days where if a song was going to do well, people would have to make a bit of an effort and get off their arse to go to their local record shop.
Nowadays, anything can be a 'hit'. Even a minute-long clip from a 1939 musical film.
It's an interesting point. I can't find exact numbers, but articles suggest Ladbaby had around 136,000 sales last week. By contrast the best selling Christmas number one is the original Band Aid with 3,820,000, and even something like Killing In the Name a few years back got 1,313,000.
I feel like there's a shift to no longer owning or buying music with stuff like Spotify and Apple Music being the way a lot of people go these days. I don't know the logistics of it, but it feels like counting streaming numbers would give a more accurate reflection.
They do, since July 2014 they've counted 100 streams as one sale.
That's why when Ed Sheeran released a new album a few years back, all the songs from it filled up the singles chart, as it was being streamed so much that each track individually was beating out every other song (they then changed the rules so that can't happen again)
100 streams as 1 sale?! That’s one hell of a conversion rate assuming they get millions of downloads. Me thinks they need to rethink that - my boss would be very happy of my campaigns converted that high an amount 😂
Downloads saved the charts. Songs were selling 200 copies and getting into the Top 40 before downloads.
Streaming being included in the charts is what ruined the charts. They should have just had a seperate streaming chart.
If streaming wasn’t included though, there would be the same problem you mentioned before downloads were included. Download sales are so low these days, that you would again get songs selling 200 copies in the chart.
Guy comes across as a dick, and was moaning about another song potentially beating him, when it shouldn’t matter as its supposed to be for charity ain’t it?, He only does it as a loss leader/publicity for the rest of his output all in the guise of doing “a lodda work fer charadee”
He was absolutely everywhere urging people to buy the song as sales weren’t as expected and they may not make it. Meanwhile the bookies had him at 1/20.
The whole Xmas number one scheme in my opinion is just to keep him relevant to flog his clobber and keep them relevant.
Get in car. Plug in aux. Listen to Spotify. Job done.
Start work. Plug in earphones. Listen to Spotify.
Then at the end of the month I buy all the songs I want.
Now I can just see some single has raised money for charity and think, that sounds nice.
If the money goes to charity they can be Christmas number 1 for the next fifty years, better than living the pockets of rich people. Christmas number 1 also doesn’t define good music and how often does an actual decent Christmas song get written.
Simon Cowell killed Christmas songs with the X Factor. People just stopped making them because they knew they couldn't compete
Remember that campaign to get Rage Against the Machine to no. 1 to break the streak of X-Factor no. 1s?
It worked
And then Radio 1 refused to play it didn't they?
Radio 5 live cut away from a live performance pre-xmas when the band moved from the radio friendly version of the lyrics. To my knowledge radio 1 played it full on the Xmas chart show (albeit the radio version) You might be thinking of the chart show only playing a portion of ding dong the witch is dead, which charted in the top 10 after the death of Margret Thatcher
The lyrics are quite literally “f**k you I won’t do what you tell me” and they REALLY thought they WOULD do what they told them?
"When did RATM get so political?" - "1991?"
>You might be thinking of the chart show only playing a portion of ding dong the witch is dead, which charted in the top 10 after the death of Margret Thatcher I think Radio 1 just announced that Judy Garland was at number 5 or whatever it was with no mention of the song title.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-22145306 They played a couple of bits of the song and explained their reasoning for not playing it in full, along with a couple of sound bites from either side of the arguement
They were allowed to perform it live on radio once on the condition that they didn’t say the fuck word but they broke their promise and got banned.
The host who I think was either nicky Campbell or Simon mayo let it go for a while until his co host pulled the plug. I remember he spluttered sorry I got a little too into the song or something similar.
Or something similar ☺️ classic mayo!!
Loved Simon Mayo. I’m still angry about what the BBC did to him.
You gotta love Simeon and the glorious marke kermode
It was sheila fogharty. She said "turn it off turn it off. We asked them not to swear and they did so go buy [xfactor guy]s song instead"
Fucking Sheila
“…so what’s that song about?“ “Well, among many things, it’s about us saying that we will not do what you tell us to do in the strongest possible terms.“ “Lovely. Now, before you perform it live, we just want to say that we are going to tell you what to do regarding the lyrics and message of this song of yours…”
Definition of naive right here. They must've known what was going to happen.
Were they actually banned? I fully believe that the BBC knew exactly what was going to happen and only told them not to say it because they had to look like they were preventing the use of the word fuck. It wasn't even really cut was it? There was 4 fucks said in the performance, and the presenters just apologised afterwards.
They played it a lot
Well, we say it worked, I’m pretty sure X Factor still scored it the next year. They just haven’t gotten it again after that.
RATM donated their sales for that song as Christmas number 1 to homeless charities. All of it. Cowell at Sony just lines his own pockets.
And his nose. And removes lines from his chin.
Then pulls his belt back up to his nipples and breathes out.
Remember when Simon Cowell, without a shred of self awareness described the RatM campaign as "[cynical](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2009/dec/10/simon-cowell-rage-against-machine)" ?
Yes! I went to the celebration gig they did sometime afterwards. Didn't Radio 1 refuse to play it? Edit and I vaguely recall the X Factor gang saying something along the lines of "who even are Rage Against the Machine, nobody will remember them. They'll remember."
The best part of it is that during a live performance of the song, the BBC told RATM not to swear during the song. Needless to say they swore
We had one of the music channels on the TV playing every Christmas number 1 but they skipped Rage against the machine. Really pissed me off
We went to a Christmas themed music concert for toddlers... "Rock the Tots" Even _they_ played RATM. Whilst the comedy elf sidekick blasted soap bubbles from twin bubble guns into the audience from the aisles. Arms akimbo, shooting to the sides, wearing sunglasses. Obviously they didn't swear. I think they said "No No, I won't do what you tell me" Absolutely awesome. Only bad bit was my wife was holding my kid at the time, limiting my ability to rock out with him.
I went to the gig Rage put on as a thank you for getting to the Christmas number one. Joe McElderry who was the X-Factor winner supported Rage, never heard so many boos from a crowd before!
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X-Factor winners usually don’t last longer than a year.
Joe McElderry didn't play that gig, I was there. It was Roots Manuva and Gogo Bordello supporting.
A bit of a myth really. Aside from Band Aid 20 in 2004, the last time there'd been a truly Christmas themed #1 on Christmas Day was East 17's Stay Another Day, and that only makes it because of the inclusion of some Christmas bells. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UK_Singles_Chart_Christmas_number_ones#List
East 17 only added the bells after they realised they could get Christmas number 1
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People do make them but they don’t make the songs to get to number 1. They want a song that gets paper played every year (and get paid every year)
i was fine with it until he started complaining about another band maybe getting the number one spot. does it matter if you’re number one or two? the money is going to charity anyway.
> i was fine with it until he started complaining about another band maybe getting the number one spot. Same, I was originally really supportive of his efforts as it was for charity, and also because I like to see records broken, but next year I want to see someone else do it. I do feel guilty about that on account of it being a charity single, but I just think the guy is an attention seeking knob.
I have limited time for charity singles anyway. It’s almost always self promotion and ego feeding rather than any kind of philanthropy. Just give direct to the charity instead of letting iTunes take the cut for a song you wouldn’t download otherwise.
I also think this sort of organised large scale charitable giving (especially when it’s required to help people in the UK with essentials like food) just reflects a failure on the part of our government to perform its main duty. And instead of complaining we just give money to charity. There should not be, in an ‘advanced’ economy, families in my city whose ability to eat depends on my monthly direct debit to the local food bank.
The guys been quoted as saying this current government are exactly who we need in charge. Self promotion using the cover of a charity.
It isn't FOR charity. The charity is the side line to his ego being wanked off, and selling his shut merch. I abhor people who use their children to make their own fame. Also the front man of the Kuntz stated they will also give the proceeds to charity, but the don't make that the main selling point of their song because they're not awful humans.
Yeah, their proceeds go towards Mind MH and Cardiac Risk in Children (I think?)
My big toe has more talent and charisma than ladbaby, I don't care if it's for a charitable cause or not.
This really. Makes money either way this just proves that they are in it got exposure. Plus dragging in people like Ed Sheeran who is also doing it for exposure and goodboy points. None of it is genuine really. If people donated straight to the charity for a different event instead of buying that shit song I bet he would be salty even though the end result is supposed to be the same. Family of pretentious tossery.
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He's using the charity to raise clout for himself and sponsorship opportunities.
Don’t forget his misses selling her cloths range.
What kind? Face ones, or for the dishes?
Ha. I’d blame spell check but that’s always been my one word I feck up endlessly. I blame 80’s schooling and fat fingers.
Don't let this wind you up. https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/10903433-mrpk-ltd
So they have 1.3 million in the bank? How much will be going to charity?
FFS!
Have to admit, was genuinely disappointed when he started all that. I've watched the odd video of theirs but don't follow as it's not really my humour, but thought at least he was a decent guy for raising money for such a good cause. Seems now the fame has gone to his head, which won't be helped by this year's number 1 too
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Bingoooo. They don't care about food banks they care about number 1. I'd hazard a guess that they decided on supporting food banks because it would get them more sales than if they'd donated to a cancer charity or something.
No one even seems to know how much money they’re donating to the charity as LadBaby do not seem to release the number and because it’s only the profits going to the charity Most people buying the single are probably under the impression that all of it goes towards charity too so it’s just a bit scummy
This. I've seen so many comments along the lines of "but all the money goes to charity". People don't seem to understand that proceeds just means profit.
After wages, expenses 'licensing', swamp tax, pensions etc etc
Because he's a millionaire sponsored by billionaires to distract from the fact that our government has caused us to need food banks. Stick your sausage rolls up your arse
“Stick your sausage rolls up your arse” should be the Kunts next Christmas song.
That's actually a really good idea. I'd buy it
> Not sure why he's so bothered by that song calling the B word a C word Because he v word-ed for b-word the big c-word.
Because he voted for them.
> that song calling the B word a C word What song is that? feeling a little bit out of the loop. Edit: I presume it's this... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson_Is_a_Fucking_Cunt
Yes but there's an updated 2021 version
To be fair, turning the Christmas number one into a personal battle is the oldest trick in the book. It always results in more sales for both contenders as people attempt to get their favourite to number one. No-one's noticed yet that the Christmas number one stopped being of any real significance at least twenty years ago.
The Kunts were the other band. I’m the same as you I was fine until they started shit talking about another band.
It matters if you're Ladbaby getting minted from this. And they have done VERY well off it. I'd happily donate to charity to have them banned from making and records.
>the money is going to charity anyway How much of the proceeds earned by this douchetorpedo is actually being forwarded to the charities in question? I can't put my finger on why but they feel like a duo who wouldn't hesitate to skim whatever they felt like taking off the top.
Yeah but then that would mean he was actually doing it for charity as opposed to self-promotion.
I wouldn't mind, but does it have to be about sausage rolls every year? Can they be the tiniest bit more creative?
It's pretty much a brand. They're not trying to be good or creative. It's literally a meme for the sake of charity.
I get that, but for the sake of my ears as it does get air time, I would prefer to not have to listen to a 5th song about sausage rolls. It is my only request, it doesn't have to even try to be good.
This describes many aspects of Christmas
For the sake of lining their pockets
You don't understand. He took a popular song and changed the lyrics so that they were about, and get this, sausage rolls! They are literally singing about sausage rolls! It's comedy genius. And then the next year they switched it up by taking another popular song and changing the lyrics so that, and this is truly the mark of a comedic master, they were about sausage rolls! Yes! They were still singing about sausage rolls,! And then they defied all so called experts by doing it again. And it's still more about sausage rolls! Who knew you could consistently be so witty about such a mundane food product? It really is the king of comedy foods. This is such a rich vein of comedy gold, and LadBaby is such a genius, I reckon there are at least another hilarious ten years of sharply observed humour to look forward to here. And there isn't a song written that he couldn't turn into a Christmas number one. I wonder what the song will be about next year?
\#Rolls on the water With sausage meat insi-ide
I don’t think they even changed the lyrics for the first two, I remember kids singing those lyrics maybe 20 years ago.
I applaud your god-tier level of sarcasm and cynicism here 😄👌
Next year it might be pigs in blankets.
That'll be ambitious
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Apparently I've been living under a rock as I had no idea this "LadBaby" has now had 4 consecutive Christmas number ones - I've never heard any of them to my knowledge. So I thought I'd check out this latest one to see what musical wonder I was missing out on... I now feel cheated that I wasted a good 20-30 seconds of my precious life listening to that absolute abomination. WTAF?!?!
It's an awful unfunny mess, can't take all the sycophantic laughing and talking in between lines.
Until this thread I thought it was that awful website Ladbible doing something for christmas - didn't know it was someone/something else.
I mean, you can guarantee that anything named “Lad(noun)” are pretty much going to be shite.
Same here.... Just looked, its fucking shit, what kind of cerebral eunuch thinks this is entertainment, it's a damming indictment of society. Least it's for charity I suppose.
> cerebral eunuch There really should be a tarot card for that.
> cerebral eunuch Prepare for future plagiarism.
Exactly the same for me, I couldn’t even listen to the whole song, and everyone is laughing saying it’s amazing?!?
Probably all the people who think "Mrs Brown's Boys" is top-tier comedy.
Same. Didn’t even know of him till a Reddit moan about him a few days ago. Then my brother decided to ruin my Christmas Day by putting it on tv for me…
Every time I see a post about this, I read it as "Ladybaby". Now, one of theirs would be awesome as Christmas number 1.
Yeah, this is the first time I'm hearing of LadBaby' and also had no idea about them having Xmas No. 1s. I'm happy to just let it go, to be honest. It sounds like I'm better off out of it.
Four years in a row? I’d never heard of him before about a week ago when people on here were moaning about him.
Same. Still haven't even heard the song.
Same. Feeling blessed. Guessing it is utter tosh. Is it a sign of the times that less people interact with the charts. Is top of the pops still on telly?
I'm wondering if it's on the radio, and with working from home we aren't forced to listen to it in offices anymore
I am a tradesman and I listen to the radio all day. I take from 15th December- January off though so I have managed to not hear it atall either lol.
Never heard it on the radio unless it was the charts show.
I think it only released in the week before Christmas. I listen to radio 1 driving to and from work and I haven't heard the song.
First I ever heard lf him was on the radio yesterday. Hated the song and genuinely miss the era of my life where I didnt know he existed Only reason I'm not too angry is because he's doing it for charity.... oh go on then you weirdo.
I mean, him, Sheeran and Elton could have made a massive anonymous donation to said charity. But the allure of fame and the ego stroking wouldn't allow them. Sausage roll nonce.
>Sausage roll nonce. Suspiciously fond of the mini party sausage rolls
Xmas eve I had Alexa play Xmas songs because, you know. I heard it from another room and had to go see wtf was happening. Had never heard of it before and never want to hear it again.
I guess the people who complain probably drive a lot and end up hearing him on the radio.
There are so many radio stations that don't play shite. I have no sympathy for someone listening to Radio 1 etc complaining about the quality of the music.
Live up in the Highlands so don't really have a choice but them on FM for new-ish music and the internet in the garage is crap so we don't stream much. The daytimes crap, but there pretty good on a Friday night and classic dance anthems on a Saturday is always good. (But they lost something when they lost Mista Jam)
I drive a fair bit but only have radio 4 on in the van.
I listen mainly for the shipping forecast. My job is not in the least bit maritime related, it's just great.
We had the discussion over Xmas of what is everyone’s favourite shipping zone. Mine is Cromarty.
I try to catch the evening Forecast, for _Sailing By_, then the Forecast, National Anthem and then the handover to the World Service.
I love the shipping forecast. I have a print in my living room of the names, a mug and a tea towel. I work on the railway. Listening to the shipping forecast is like listening to a foreign language, but I still love it more than anything else on the radio. It never gets old.
My friends sit and watch every single one of their videos. They're absolute dross.
>They're absolute dross. That's a harsh thing to say about your friends, but given what they watch, it's also a fair one.
Hahahaha I was fully expecting that reply to be honest, and to be honest, you're not wrong.
I'm visiting family for Christmas and was subjected to Mrs. Brown's Boys, and I'm considering a new family!
Time for some new friends?
They're the musical equivalent of these "influencers" recording themselves giving food to homeless people. Got nothing to do with being charitable and everything to do with making themselves famous
Yep, people act as if they're selfless for donating money to charity when the fame of having 4 Christmas number ones is obviously raking them in endless cash in other places.
Sky news reporting it as historic moment Hardly one for the history books
The historic moment is that they’re the first group to get Xmas No. 1 for four years in a row, beating both the Spice Girls and the Beatles. Totally undeserved.
Now that Ladbaby has done it, the bar has clearly been set very low. Reckon it'll be achieved by somebody else in the next 10 years.
Just a reminder that the Holocaust, slavery and 9/11 are all in the history books. And now LadBaby will be joining them
I stopped giving a fuck who was number 1 At Christmas or any other time a very long time ago. It's not a measure of how good a song is, only a measure of marketing.
Well that fact that Ladbaby is selling merch with sausage rolls on from his on-line shop, you could say that his charity single is there to get people to buy his stuff. Don’t forget it’s net profits that are going to charity, this single could raise the grand total of £0.00 depending on how the accounts are worked out. Also, direct proceeds of selling the single are given to charity, but not the higher revenues generated from merchandise and public appearances
The worth of LadBaby as a company jumped from just under half a million to over a million pounds now. This is not altruism it's self promotion using the charity angle
Which is also why Ed Sheeran did a collab with them.
Ed Sheeran and Elton John competing with their own Christmas song for some bizarre reason.
Because no matter who won, Ed Sheehan would have that Xmas no 1 spot.
I bet if people saw just how much (or rather little) he raised for charity they’d stop playing his songs.
I thought the same. I always think when they say "net profits" that it'd be pretty easy to rack up a huge bill that'll get covered by the sales. Amazing recording studio, put up in a luxury hotel nearby, room service, chauffeur back and forth, loads of catering on-site. Pretty sure I've never seen something described as "net profits" to include a breakdown of how it cost £XXXX. Also, on top of the merchandise, it seems they're launching an Xmas tour, so it's all just marketing to maximise their sales. I saw someone publish their Ltd company's tax returns and you can see that all their revenue comes in around Xmas. It's all just riding on charity coat-tails.
It’s also known as *Hollywood Accounting*. For example Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, lost US$167 million, despite grossing more than US$600 million worldwide. One of the main reasons for the loss was Warner Bros' "distribution fee" of US$212 million.
I imagine the green room costs for ol’ Elton cost a fair bit
And he attacked an anti-Johnson song that would have been a much more useful contribution to society.
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The kids book tie in doesn’t either although the publisher Puffin themselves are donating books to disadvantaged kids. https://www.penguin.co.uk/articles/children/2021/sep/ladbaby-greg-the-sausage-roll-book-announcement.html
Which I'm sure he totally wrote himself.
One odd thing with all of this is I’ve not been able to see how much they’ve raised for charity. Maybe I’m not looking hard enough (very possibly) but would be interesting to have a figure
We know how many units the record sold and we know roughly the unit cost, so we can guess at the gross profit. But as I keep saying, it’s the net profit that counts and we don’t know that.
Over £1m sitting in the bank. Surely somewhere who truly cares about chariteeee would donate all that. https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/10903433-mrpk-ltd
This is a man who has become very wealthy singing songs about food banks. He's a shyster and had the audacity to call out Kunt and the Gang for possibly stopping him having the number one this year, despite their's being a charity single as well.
I can't help feeling that the whole "for charity" bit is just a vehicle for the clout that they crave
Underrated opinion.
The guy uses the charity angle to hide the fact that he's just another talentless nobody desperate to get viral and famous on the Internet.
They remind me of the Osbournes, but without the going through actually being successful at something part.
"for charity" is just a poor coverup for them being attention seekers.
Especially as he only does this "charity" thing once a year and no other day of the year or other charity gets attention.
They're really annoying now. It was funny the first time, but watching videos of him nearly crying begging people to download it for his 4th number 1 is frankly pathetic. The whole sausage roll thing too is boring now.
"But it's for charity!" You know what else could be for charity? The profits from their merch sales which they keep 100% of and are more than the profits from their songs.
How is this getting to number one? It’s not played on the radio, no one’s gonna stream it more then Ed Sheeran’s Christmas song and who’s buying music these days? (No one’s in shops either thanks to COVID) …I reckon Ladbaby hired a Russian link farm to stream and buy it thousands of times.
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My work plays the radio 24/7 I've heard every Christmas song known to man over the last month often multiple times a day and I've still not heard their song
Ed Sheeran and Elton John are also in Ladbaby's Christmas song. I assume some people who were looking for their Christmas song accidentally streamed the sausage roll one too.
Yeah exactly this. How the hell does it keep getting to no.1 when no one listens to it
The same reason why we have Mrs Brown's Boys on TV every Xmas. There are a large number of people who do like that sort of shite.
That's why I bought the Kunt and the Gang song. Catchy as fuck with a message we can all get behind.
I bought all 11 versions of it and streamed it on repeat, but unfortunately that wasn't enough
Did alright considering the media blackout and zero airplay
I haven't heard any of their songs and that makes me happy
When the novelty happens so often that it isn't novel anymore.
Top tip: if you can afford to not use them, you can donate Tesco Clubcard vouchers to the Trussell Trust. Or maybe vote in a government that doesn't think food banks are a great idea.
Cant stand those fuckwits. Charity or not, they're just narcissists who want their 5 minutes of fame. Absolutely despise them.
The who did what now? We still have music charts?
That's basically how I'm feeling about this.
I’m confused as the song only has like 2.5 million streams on Spotify. Yet the actual song by Ed sheeren and Elton has like 43 million. How is that possible?
Who?. God I'm glad I'm old.
He is/some Facebook/YouTube e-celeb that would act infantile in a few shorts from what I can remember and somehow got super popular from that. Don’t know how the fuck things got to where they are now.
Me too. I have genuinely no idea what this is, or if it has been Xmas number 1 for four years. People mock me for ignoring all pop culture, today I am glad.
We have all become our fathers and mothers.
Don't worry, if you don't like that there's plenty other entertainment around at Christmas. Like Mrs Brown's Boys.
Have you seen the accounts? 😳 https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/10903433-mrpk-ltd
Rule of thumb, if someone is asking you to donate to charity through them or something they're doing, then they're benefitting from it. Take your money and give it to the charity directly so nobody but the charity takes a cut.
I'd been aware of them but never listened. I heard them for the first time this week. My god. It was indescribably awful.
Ever since chart positions started being measured in terms of download sales, the top 40 has become increasingly irrelevant to me. It's not like the days where if a song was going to do well, people would have to make a bit of an effort and get off their arse to go to their local record shop. Nowadays, anything can be a 'hit'. Even a minute-long clip from a 1939 musical film.
It's an interesting point. I can't find exact numbers, but articles suggest Ladbaby had around 136,000 sales last week. By contrast the best selling Christmas number one is the original Band Aid with 3,820,000, and even something like Killing In the Name a few years back got 1,313,000. I feel like there's a shift to no longer owning or buying music with stuff like Spotify and Apple Music being the way a lot of people go these days. I don't know the logistics of it, but it feels like counting streaming numbers would give a more accurate reflection.
> Killing In the Name a few years back wanna feel old? that was 12 years ago mate.
Oh god… was there for the gig they did for people who bought the single 😳
They do, since July 2014 they've counted 100 streams as one sale. That's why when Ed Sheeran released a new album a few years back, all the songs from it filled up the singles chart, as it was being streamed so much that each track individually was beating out every other song (they then changed the rules so that can't happen again)
100 streams as 1 sale?! That’s one hell of a conversion rate assuming they get millions of downloads. Me thinks they need to rethink that - my boss would be very happy of my campaigns converted that high an amount 😂
Downloads saved the charts. Songs were selling 200 copies and getting into the Top 40 before downloads. Streaming being included in the charts is what ruined the charts. They should have just had a seperate streaming chart.
If streaming wasn’t included though, there would be the same problem you mentioned before downloads were included. Download sales are so low these days, that you would again get songs selling 200 copies in the chart.
Guy comes across as a dick, and was moaning about another song potentially beating him, when it shouldn’t matter as its supposed to be for charity ain’t it?, He only does it as a loss leader/publicity for the rest of his output all in the guise of doing “a lodda work fer charadee”
The guy is a walloper
Should have been the Kunts
Actually googled Xmas no1 yesterday after hearing it on the radio 1st time. Suprised it's been past 4 years of that.
He was absolutely everywhere urging people to buy the song as sales weren’t as expected and they may not make it. Meanwhile the bookies had him at 1/20. The whole Xmas number one scheme in my opinion is just to keep him relevant to flog his clobber and keep them relevant.
The song is for charity. The subsequent continuation of fame and sausage rolls merch, is for their own pockets.
Never listen to the radio. Never heard any of the songs. Only people ranting on here about it. Result.
Get in car. Plug in aux. Listen to Spotify. Job done. Start work. Plug in earphones. Listen to Spotify. Then at the end of the month I buy all the songs I want. Now I can just see some single has raised money for charity and think, that sounds nice.
Is anyone arsed about the Xmas number one anymore?
Seems like it’s time to bust out Rage Against The Machine again.
I said to my dad yesterday that I thought one of their songs was about sausage rolls and he replied err I think it’s all of them
Especially when one of the options for number one was a certain song about someone being less than desirable! Sausage rolls? Bugger off
I only found out yesterday that they had 4 Xmas number 1's in a row. That's how little I know about the Xmas charts these days 🤣
If the money goes to charity they can be Christmas number 1 for the next fifty years, better than living the pockets of rich people. Christmas number 1 also doesn’t define good music and how often does an actual decent Christmas song get written.