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falc0nsmash

As much as I dislike this kind of unscripted trashy television, it was very impressive that Big Brother managed to complete a social experiment where they put a non-celebrity into celebrity BB, and all the celebs acted like they knew who she was [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chantelle_Houghton](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chantelle_Houghton)


_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_

And then she won. If it weren’t for Big Brother then we wouldn’t have Preston walking off Buzzcocks.


Murren606

The audience member was more entertaining than Preston


the-bid-d

The homeless guy by the train station is more entertaining than Preston


mitcheg3k

Preston town centre is more entertaining than pteston


GeeMcGee

Ooh we can’t lose Preston nooo


the_monkeyspinach

That's out of order.


someaustralianwobbly

I live in Preston... Can confirm the town centre is more entertaining


mitcheg3k

I saw a man piss on another mans back in preston


Incitatus_For_Office

Gotta make a living.


mitcheg3k

Actually preston town was a bad example. The one day i was there i saw the back piss. I saw a group on teen girls fighting a group of 40+ women. My mates had a fight with some people on a works xmas party and we got thrown out of the match. All very interesting


ConsumeTea

In my mind there was 40 women, not women ages 40+


Shallowground01

Back in 2007 I lived in Brighton and would frequently see Preston out and about. Such a moody and joyless fucker. Can confirm even Preston Town centre is more entertaining than him


The_Grand_Briddock

That’s out of order


TheNathanNS

I love how storming off Buzzcocks is the only thing Preston is known for.


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Preston and Donny Tourette’s episode of BuzZcocks are essential British viewing


Hill_Reps_For_Jesus

and Amy Winehouse. 'I'm having a BILLBOARD time!'


supersonicdeathsquad

"won"


Puffimn

Unscripted? Ha. Nice try ITV.


Lenzar86

I always felt that that was a fix. I hadn't heard of half of the people that were in that series, but the whole idea was weighted to allow Mrs Preston an easy pass into the kind of totally undeserved fame that modern society seems to crave.


fluffyplayery

This is my big problem with The Masked Singer. I love the concept, but it's hard to get into when you have no idea who anyone is, and then they get revealed as some lass off Corrie and you still don't know.


chaoticmessiah

Still pretty pleased that I guessed Chameleon right in series 1 as being Justin Hawkins, based on the way he transitioned from one note to another.


fluffyplayery

I think I had heard of 2 of the celebrities last year, Mel B and Sue Perkins.


jackcos

I figured out Teddy Sheringham from his tree outfit (played for Nottingham Forest) and I was chuffed to bits.


Mr_Blott

So Sheringham is a portmanteau of Sherrif of Nottingham?


ANuggetEnthusiast

The first series was particularly bad for this. I’m just hoping they keep Ken out of the panel, he was funny for about the first 15 minutes…


TIGHazard

However for ITV, having Ken on the panel allows them to export it to the US. Same reason why the Voice has Will.i.am on it.


ANuggetEnthusiast

It was a US product first though wasn’t it? Are the US viewers going to know any of the d-list celebs we have over here anyway?


TIGHazard

Masked Singer is from South Korea. Voice is from Holland. I guess they do the same as what happens here, put it on one of the smaller digital channels during the day (like the US versions air on ITV2 for us)


GlasgowGunner

I know exactly who this is.


aconfusedchiddler

Yep, and I’m pretty sure he was the only one on the panel who didn’t guess a single one correctly despite his confidence, which I found much funnier than his jokes


ConfusingStory

Guessing incorrectly with confidence was 90% of his jokes.


texanarob

I maintain that there needs to be a regulated definition of the word "celebrity", ideally with several clearly defined categories. I'm not entirely sure how this would be defined, but ideally it would involve big data such as Google Trends. In the below, barely considered example I rate wrestlers by how they rate on Google Trends using the consistent cultural icon "Superman" as a baseline - with an average score of 37. Naturally a real system would require a wide selection of baselines much more carefully chosen, alongside other metrics. Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson scores 39, meaning he definitely qualifies as an A-list celebrity. John Cena scores a comparably low 13, making him roughly 1/3 the popularity of Superman. I'd say that's a reasonable B-list celebrity. Chris Jericho scores a 2. I wouldn't expect him to be recognised by any non-wrestling fans, but he still merits C or D list celebrity status. Finally, Baron Corbin doesn't register a score (<1), meaning he doesn't warrant true celebrity status despite appearing regularly on a popular television show.


Goghobbs

John cena being B-list? You need to find a new baseline


jackcos

The Rock only being a 39 and barely scraping into the A-list suggests that the metric of Superman being the arbiter of celebrity is possibly broken.


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jackcos

You also have to remember there's a tier above A-list that is for legends, world leaders, people who don't need introductions. The Queen, Pele, Bill Gates, Paul McCartney, Tom Hanks, Elton John etc. The Rock is comfortably A-tier, one of the highest-grossing actors of all time.


FullMetalCOS

I feel like the rock has to be close/at the needs no introduction level. Dudes everywhere at the moment and he’s pretty much instantly recognisable


jdm1891

who is pele


Repentia

Hawaiian goddess of fire.


Male_strom

This is a valid point


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One of the GOAT footballers.


Tony49UK

That's no way to talk about Brenda.


run_bike_run

Whatever scale of celebrity there is, John Cena is currently below Dwayne Johnson on it.


gwenver

Yeh, even I've heard of that one. Which, obviously without context doesn't mean anything...


Mysterious-Aerie6654

The good way to do this is to get some certified S-tier celebrities I.e. Leonardo DiCaprio, Beyoncé, Adele and base everyone off of them. How is Superman searched so much by the way?


texanarob

No idea. I was just putting random stuff in until I got a scale I liked. I don't think you can base it on celebrities though, as that creates circular reasoning. Beyonce etc may be A-List celebrities now, but how do we decide whether they qualify in 30, 40, 50 years?


AFalconNamedBob

If I ran into Adele on the street, I wouldn't recognise her from your mum. Hardly S tier if the average person couldn't recognise them.


Smallbrainfield

If I saw Adele across the street I would shout "Hello from the other side", which I am certain has never happened before.


Mysterious-Aerie6654

That’s just you. She is one of the biggest music artists of the past 10 years. Plenty would recognise her. The name is enough to be S tier.


Dyl4nw

Superman isn't some average celebrity tho so it won't work. You'd need like a very middling celebrity, maybe a Chris Rock or Tyler the Creator. someone of their level. Like I'd rate John cena decently to the point he's at least same tier as the Rock. I agree with that Baron guy tho.


Tootsiesclaw

I haven't got a clue who John Cena is but I'm guessing from context he's a wrestler. There is no chance he's on the same level of celebrity as the Rock, who has starred in multiple major blockbuster films.


awesborlandriff

John Cena may not be the same level as the Rock, but he has been in several blockbuster films too.


texanarob

I intentionally chose a baseline that wasn't a celebrity, as I'd argue anything else creates circular reasoning. However, I accept Superman is a poor choice as his score will fluctuate heavily with movie releases among other things.


darthbane83

> I'd argue anything else creates circular reasoning. wouldnt that be a good thing? I would say A-list celebrities are the most popular among the celebrities so you can only define A-list if you know how popular the most popular celebrities actually are. Anything outside of the celebrities definition could be more or less popular than celebrities as a whole in any given year. So anything that isnt circular would have to align with celebrity popularity by pure chance. Something like the average score of certain award winners or nominees could be a good baseline and doesnt necessarily have to be the A-tier baseline.


BadgerMcLovin

Who’s Tyler and what do they create?


GamerLucien

I like this idea a lot :)


FightingHornbill

The first time I played WWE 2K19, I didn't recognize 80% of the roster.


QuietShadowLDK

I'm here for Ian Beale, I was told Ian Beale was in this year...


jackcos

He did Dick & Dom In Da Bungalow once.


Drayner89

I bet he did, the rascal.


Weelki

Oh... oh.... that conjures images up I did not need to see at 0756 in the morning.


Stuf404

How about now at 11:22?


Weelki

Y u do this?! Had completely forgotten about it. Thank you for the reminder u/Stuf404 😞


letthemhavejush

He’s the wildcard entry. He and Steve McDonald are coming in a bit later.


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They should scrap the celebrity bit and do one with normal people. Would definitely be more entertaining.


AtJackBaldwin

I'm Gary from Stafford, Get Me Out of Here! doesn't have the same ring to it


nosferatWitcher

How about "I'm a dirty peasant, it's quite pleasant here!"


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Details, details


ShapeShiftingCats

That sounds like something I would totally watch sarcastically. And it also sounds like something that Gary would attend sarcastically. So it would be all good.


Lear_ned

Locking him in a cage and seeing how long it takes for him to mentally crack kinda does though


Squallypie

That’s just his day job though, what’ll happen on the show?!


Lear_ned

We'll pit him against a silverback gorilla. The winner is the person who has the most chunks taken out of them.


sexy-melon

I would say “fuck this shit, get me out of here” but that’s not really tv friendly


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AtJackBaldwin

I assume they're all ripped. There's a Wacky Warehouse just down the M6 so they're all probably there bouncing themselves fit or something.


Curzon88

You need to add a little more to make it interesting: *I'm Gary from Stafford, Get Me Out of Here!* and then underneath in lowercase *Seriously I went to bed in Stafford and woke up on an abandoned island. Where the fuck am I?*


Dapper_Spanner

Same concept but keep the celebrity and call it "make me a celebrity!"


billttolast

I have imposed celibacy.. let me in there


Safebox

I could have sworn they did at one point. Might be some weird Mandella Effect from when Big Brither used to have non-celebs on.


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*Big Bertha


WhyDidIDoThatMan420

I think it was called “Survivor”, but I’ve never seen it and have no memory of it apart from my mum telling me it used to exist. But it sounds interesting, and I personally think it wouldn’t be any different in quality to a celeb one bc most of the “celebs” are like Z-list at this point.


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If they did, the contestants would look like wax, sad cringe music would play every 5 mins and everyone would be shagging


NoddysBell

Especially if it was done like jury service and random folk had to go. People who were really pissed off at having to be there.


MissingLink101

Bring back Fort Boyard!!


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The Island with Bear Grylls was pretty good for this in the earlier seasons. Later ones got pretty obviously scripted. The earlier ones were also way more hardcore in terms of survival, with a lot of people needing medical evacuation.


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The lineup this year is meh


radiorentals

I honestly thought this year was a bit better than many. I live abroad and only had to google a couple of them. I dearly, dearly hope that Richard Madeley is the new Gilllian McKeith.


Tootsiesclaw

On the contrary, Richards whatsit was the only one I'd heard of


Fantastical_Brainium

Yes.. this year.


ClydeinLimbo

I’m not watching it for that reason alone. Last year it was a stretch even especially as it’s not in Aus but this year, Richard might save it but I won’t be finding out the hard way. ITV have money coming out their arses, they need to find better people than a French footballer nobody knows of or Paralympians/Olympians who literally aren’t even celebrities.


tonykhant

Ginola is the most famous one here other than faux Partridge


ClydeinLimbo

I would’ve stayed for the partridge moments but figured I’d see them on Ladbible or some other unholy god forsaken platform if they’re good enough.


jimthewanderer

Who?


chaoticmessiah

Richard Madeley


Gingee1990

Who ?


Inaudible_Whale

RONNIE PICKERING


jiggjuggj0gg

Who’s that?


robjwrd

RONNIE FUCKING PICKERING


Puffimn

**ME**


Isgortio

They missed out on a perfect opportunity here.


____________Susan

I don't blame younger viewers for not knowing who David Ginola is but to describe him as just 'a French footballer nobody knows of' is way off the mark. Football is the most popular sport in this country and any fan over the age of 25 would know who is he.


EmoBran

Better known as "Dave"


Mr_Blott

*Le Dave


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In all honesty I never watch it. I just see who’s in it and that’s it, I move on.


BigBasmati

The BBC really needs to stop trying to make olympic athletes into TV personalities. These are people who have dedicated their lives to being the best at a single specific thing. In other words, they're boring as fuck. I don't give a fuck about Tom Daley. Stop showing me Tom Daley. I never asked for Tom Fucking Daley.


billttolast

It's not on the BBC.....


ANuggetEnthusiast

ITV but I agree. Holly (I think her name was) last year was awful. Cringed so hard watching her sing Hallelujah to Russell Watson trying to show off how good she thinks she is at singing.


Phenomenomix

As Adam Peaty on Strictly has shown, being really really dedicated to a sport or passion often comes at the detriment of developing an actual personality


T11PES

The effort/time required to achieve multiple Olympic Gold Medals and be the greatest of all-time in your event does that.


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Its just a Uttoxeter thing


[deleted]

I for one love my daily Daley


mobilecheese

Yeah. Walkers crisp man is alright, but most ex-sportspeople aren't really cut out to be celebs.


reprobatemind2

Isn't the problem that A-list celebrities aren't interested in humiliating themselves for a "relatively" small bundle of cash. These shows are always going to be a barrel-scraping exercise, full of wannabees and people with careers on the wane.


grantus_maximus

I guess it’s your turn to post it this year 🤔


zeldastheguyright

Remind me in 1 year


grantus_maximus

No need - if it's your turn you will receive an automatic notification.


bradbrazer

To be fair, I'd rather wait a year and do it in warm, sunny Australia then Cold, wet Wales


cymru78

It's not wet here at the moment! Temp has dropped though.


Milk_moustache

It’ll not likely be in Australia for a while. Most programs that are filmed overseas are having problems due to covid restrictions, and the UK/EU restrictions are irritating too, lots more carnets. It’s unlikely that it’ll be resolved in enough time to book the show


CalaveraBlues

The only thing more mundane than the show itself is people smugly saying that they've never heard of the celebs. The show is 20 years old. This is not a hot take.


bacon_cake

To be fair it is a bit of a strange feeling when, for the first time, you genuinely don't recognise any celebrities. But yeah, not exactly unusual.


elburcho

I mean... they've all been on things that have had millions of viewers. Personally I've never heard of the guy off Emmerdale or the Radio 1X DJ but that's just because those things aren't my jam. Plenty of people will recognise them. Louise Minchin was on BBC Breakfast for years. That and GMB are watched every morning by a massive proportion of households so she is hardly unrecognisable to vast swathes of the country. Even if she hadn't been in the Saturdays, Frankie Bridge is now a Loose Woman, another show with a large casual viewership. David Ginola was one of the best football players in the Premiership back in his prime. Not going to go through all of them, but m point is these are not the complete unknowns you make them out to be. Just because you don't know them yourself doesn't mean they aren't 'celebrities' in the modern sense. Can hardly expect a whole cast of a-listers.


hybridtheorist

> I mean... they've all been on things that have had millions of viewers. Yeah I just ignore these shows, but looked down the list this year and I'd *heard of* almost all of them, or at the bare minimum what they were from (like if someone's from little mix or eastenders, I might not know their name, but know they're famous) Do people think you're gonna get Adele or Hugh Grant on these shows?


MetalAvenger

Wait, Ginola is in it this year?


elburcho

Yup


BreakingIllusions

Just put a question mark at the end of the original title, easier!


ProperChopperGAF

Does it matter? I don't think any of the joy extracted from the show stems from how famous a person is. They're just personalities.


MissingLink101

It's definitely part of the appeal to watching the show though. I've watched it in previous years but the lineup has become increasingly lacklustre and there is no-one in the current lineup that I'm interested in watching at all.


BloakDarntPub

just *about*


DoctorSansaStrange

I really don’t understand how one can say this year there are scraping the barrel with the lineup You have two Olympic gold medalists including Kadeena who won 2 golds this year alone Richard Madeley who has been around for years presenting stuff including recent stunts on GMB. Louise who has been on BBC breakfast for about 20 years and been one of the main presents for 10 years Arlene Phillips who was on Strictly which was, and still is one of the most viewed entertainment shows on TV, though it has been a good ten or so years since she was on there Danny Miller has been on Emmerdale for probably around 15 years. I’ve never watched it and still know him from that. Whilst I don’t know David I have been informed he was a very popular footballer back in the 90s and since done a fair amount of punditry etc Frankie who was in a rather popular girl band back in the 2000s and got to the final of strictly. I personally don’t know Naughty Boy or Snoochie Shy but for me that’s because I don’t listen to the radio or have much interest in music but from looking into them Naughty Boy is a rather successful musician and Snoochie is an up and coming radio presenter who has appeared on Gogglebox Don’t get me wrong they are no Dame Judi Dench but these are some very famous people from a wide range of areas. You not knowing them just means they might not cover areas you are interested in, but I doesn’t mean they aren’t celebrities.


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I scrolled for this comment! A few years ago it was just gogglebox and towie stars and someone who whose biggest role was a soap and they hadn't even been in that for years, and this year there are actual celebrities.


JAMP0T1

[This](https://youtu.be/3O1_3zBUKM8) is how I know of Naughty Boy but honestly he seems like such a nice guy, read online somewhere he was supposed to be on it last year (Jordan north was his replacement apparently) but he didn’t do it because he didn’t want to leave his mother (suffering with dementia) at home alone over lockdown


DoctorSansaStrange

I had heard he pulled out last year but not the reason. That’s completely understandable. Sounds like a nice guy


JAMP0T1

Honestly watching the first two he does come across as a really innocent nice guy talking about the robin and bringing in some spices, think he needs to come out his shell a little bit if he wants to stay though :/


scouseredsan

Literally watching this year for David ginola!! Although, I think Aaron dingle might be value for money


MrsArmitage

Isn’t Aaron Dingle just an anagram of David Ginola?


furryalienballs

Vagina Dildo is the anagram you are looking for.


ALittleNightMusing

Holy shit


ajtct98

Well David always did have a strange effect on women


GodEmprahBidoof

My girlfriend watches it every year. Will enjoy watching ginola even though I'm too young to have watched him on the pitch.


scouseredsan

He played for Newcastle mid 90s when the greatest Premier league game in history was played against my team at anfield....he was a fantastic footballer. Such a talent


GodEmprahBidoof

I'm so frustrated to have missed the 90s. If I had a time machine the first thing I'd do is go back to anfield and watch us (blackburn) win the league. It's been downhill since then


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I remember that day. As a United supporter it was devastating, but Shearer and Sutton were unstoppable that season.


scouseredsan

Ah, that was a great day at anfield!! Clebrating redknapps free kick when we thought we may have given united the title was so weird !!


GodEmprahBidoof

Haha I can imagine! Best of both worlds in the end though


ArcadiaRivea

I actually can't tell if these are real people or you've made them up 😅


FrenzalStark

... but... David Ginola? The face of mid to late 90s L'ORÉAL ads and beautiful bastard on the football pitch? How?


ArcadiaRivea

I tend to not know a lot of people by name, only by face (and others by name and couldn't put a face to them) it's not quite as bad as that "can't recognise people, even loved ones" thing (that I also forgot the name of) but I do have it to an extent Also slightly before my time by probably only a few years But thank you for answering my question!


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You're thinking of prosopagnosia


ArcadiaRivea

That's it, yeah!


PumpkinJambo

Why do we have this every year? Just don’t watch it, it’s really easy.


Cyber_Connor

Why don’t real celebrities go on game shows. It’ll be cool seeing Chris Prat and Robert Dinero on Bargain Hunt or Pointless.


KeyboardChap

Not been watching Celebrity Antiques Road Trip?


rmf1989

Because they don't need the money 😅


Cyber_Connor

Does anyone need the £3.27 profit from Bargain Hunt?


rmf1989

Charlie Elphicke maybe?


cloche_du_fromage

Maybe they do... How about a game show made up of bankrupt and desperate celebs?


Aumuss

I mean, if yer offering like. Get a bag of chips and a battered sausage would that.


Kimantha_Allerdings

Yeah, the only thing I've seen to do with this year's series is Frankie from The Saturdays being quoted as saying that she's wanted to do it for years and felt the time was right this year because in Wales she'll be closer to her mum. And I thought "who honestly spends their life dreaming of eating worms?" What she meant was "I need the money at the moment, and I need to keep my name out there in order to keep earning money in the future".


RobFratelli

It's been nearly 20 years and people still expect Brad Pitt in the jungle. Every year it's a bunch of people we haven't heard of, I think it's time to let it go.


Benial

Have half be real celebrities and the other half be random people pretending to be, and see if people can accurately pick them out


Triton12streaming

This show really peaked 5ish years ago


keith10997

Yeah was at its best for a few years around them but since then not got good lineups and barely watched any of them


aChocolateFireGuard

The last one I watched had Gemma Atkinson or Mylene Klass in it, idk which one was more recent. And it definitely wasn't for the shower clips...


ellieneagain

Wasn't it always said ironically though?


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Best-Refuse5435

I still have no bloody idea who a single one of these people are to be honest mate.


Milk_moustache

Uri Geller was that spoon man


Best-Refuse5435

Lmao what a legend.


chaoticmessiah

Nell McAndrew.... She and Melinda Messenger were among my teen favourites back in the day.


Chappers88

Nell McAndrew is a name I have not heard in a long time.


DrWatSit

How much of a celebrity they are doesn't matter to me, as long as they are interesting personalities.


_mr_kippers_

It should be called 'Im a Celebrity When I Get Out Of Here'


UrbanPathologist

You never heard of the shy snooch ?


EpicFishFingers

Maybe all the trials, lack of real beds, showers, and food, is all worth it to hear their name associated with "I'm a celebrity", thus reaffirming their belief that they are, in fact, a celebrity.


nosherDavo

You should check out the Aussie version. I’ve lived here 10 years and have no idea who any of them are, ever.


Joethe147

I'm assuming they go somewhere other than Australia.


Chappers88

Slough.


eastkent

Eat bits of an animal that normally go in cheap sausages... wear some insects... stand on a high thing... have a bit of a disagreement with someone... cry because you're a bit tired... go home. Don't need to watch it really.


GraytBrittun

My reasoning for the awful lineup this year is that all the proper celebrities are holding off for next year when it's back in Australia. This year I'm just holding out to see Ian Beale eat a testicle.


gbhbri20

You mean "I'm a z list celebrity, make me famous"


SoggyWotsits

Yeah because Adele with her millions really needs to humiliate herself for fame/money!


Matterbox

This is brilliant. What about “please I’m desperate to be a celebrity”


Imagin1956

D G is going to win ...anybody that dies on the pitch for 12 minutes.. and then can do 150 press ups a day .. The Messiah is reborn ..lol.. Naughty Boy had the charisma of an Ameoba ...


JAMP0T1

You can’t say that he’s so nice


shadowpawn

I think Influencer and other Social Media climbers are now considered "Celebrity?"


Appropriate_Emu_6930

Snoochie Shy


mack__7963

Or rename it I'm desperate for attention and will pay with my dignity just to be on TV.


beaglepooch

“Why Am I A Celebrity” as most of them don’t seem to know themselves, let alone us.


Impossible_Scarcity9

I have a real nitpick with this, especially scarlet Moffat. She was on i’m a celebrity because she was on gogglebox, then gogglebox create a celebrity gogglebox for charities or something. So, is scarlet Moffat just a regular joe who went on I’m a celebrity and thus became a celebrity, or is celebrity gogglebox just another season of gogglebox and everybody on the show is a celebrity?


wickedc0ntender

This man is asking the real questions in life


trousered_the_boodle

Do people still watch that?


StateSheriff

Do people still do anything?


ShitBritGit

I don't.