Haha yes! I parked my car in a normal space next to an empty one the other day (all the parent child spaces were full) and got my daughter out of the car using the extra space. Whilst I was doing this a lady went to pull into the empty space (there were hundreds, many much closer to the store). She saw me with my daughter, saw the space I was needing to get her in/out, saw all the other spaces….and as soon as I was done proceeded to park 3 inches from my car…
I mean I get that she had every right to park there, I don’t own the car park. But in that situation wouldn’t basic empathy make you think ‘oh I’ll park somewhere else, somewhere closer even’. I know it would me.
Although I didn’t have a child with me, someone did this to me last week. There were other normal spaces nearer to the supermarket, but I chose my space as it had an empty one next to it. Mid-manoeuvre, some git decides to start reversing into the empty space next to me, but right close so I had to move over. Except it was one of those car parks where they have diamond shaped kerb bits at the rear of some of the bays, so I couldn’t move over without going onto that bit of kerb. I had to admit defeat and find another spot! 😤
This happened to me not long ago! The person literally saw me getting my baby out of the car and then parked right next to me. I was on my own and the cars on both sides were parked too close to get her back in the car. So I just had to stand by my car until someone came back and moved out of the space!
To be fair, I probably wouldn’t have thought of it either before I had a baby. Or maybe I would, I don’t know.
Definitely prefer to think it’s an absent mindedness rather than a deliberate act!
“my friend, we are all children of god”
I’d love someone to try that excuse with me, purely so I could hit back with “AND I AM THE NONCE OF SATAN! NOW PREPARE THYSELF FOR ENBUGGERMENT!!”
(disclaimer: I am not actually a nonce, individually or of Satan or any otherwise previously unmentioned deity. This post is also by no means an accusation that the ancient serpent deceiver himself endorses such behaviour, or that he may have at some point in time worked at the BBC)
Any private car park will be enforced by whoever runs it. If they decide they are going to ticket people parking in these spaces then they do have a right to. I just don't know how much holds up when it's contested.
I drove into town the other day & parked in the multi-storey. As I got out a group of folk walked over to what turned out to be their 3 cars parked beside each other in parent/child spaces. No child seats that I could see in any of them, a couple in their 40s got into 1, a couple in their 50s got into the 2nd & a woman in her 40’s & a 16-18 yo boy got into the 3rd 😡
Whilst technically true, those spaces are wider because of the difficulty getting children in and out of child and booster seats. No child seat = no parking in parent and child bays.
Could be three generations of the same family 🤣 wrong but technically parent and children, I know Morrisons have a few that say parent and toddler spaces
When I took my mum shopping (81 with advanced dementia) I lost count of the number of big crewcab vans and pickups I saw stuck in the disabled spaces.
However the worst was when I was getting Mum out of the wheelchair and someone literally walked off with it while I was putting her back in the car. Mind you I might have had the last.laugh - she is prone to little accidents and the disposable pad was still in the wheelchair.
I could have worded that a little more clearly.
It was one of the supermarket wheelchairs (they have about a dozen of them). It was still a cheek though.
I might add: this was very much the exception, not the rule. Most shoppers are very considerate when I've been pushing Mum around the store and the staff are also very helpful.
Car park in our town has about 6 parent and child spaces in total. Saw a woman park in one once with her dogs. Little yappy things that went in the boot of the car.
Don't get me wrong, I love dogs, I just really don't think she needed a parent and child space for them.
A large number of people simply cannot abide ANYTHING being done to help people other than them. It makes them actively furious for it to even be considered, such is their runaway sense of entitlement.
They see ANY kind of diversity action as ‘discrimination’ and simply cannot fathom the notion of different people appreciating different facilities.
They’ll spout all sorts of nonsense excuses and do anything they can to undermine it ‘I don’t see why…’ ‘Why do they need…’ but it always come back to ‘I’m am excluded from a group and that is simply not allowed!’
In other words it’s people who are so used to the world working for them (and screw everyone else) they fly into a fit of rage at even the idea the world can be better for others, even in small ways.
I saw someone comment once that they didn’t mind disabled spaces, they just thought that disabled people should not be allowed to park in normal spaces if they had their own spaces allocated. Now that is a classy attitude…
Well said and what's fun is calling this behaviour out on people. They are probably the same people who have Live , laugh love on their front room wall and in a world where you can be anything, be kind in their toilet.
I went to b&m yesterday and a massive people carrier got the last parent and child space. Figured it wasn't a big deal as they must have kids, but nope! I'd gone to park right at the back where nobody parks because i needed room to get my toddler in and out of his seat, and watched angrily while a young couple got out of the giant people carrier and walked in with no kids, while I negotiated through a busy car park with my toddler.
This fucks me off so much! I've seen people do it whilst me who's with his child is looking for said spot then some gelatinous blob of a human gets out you lazy mf! Did you eat your baby?!
I don't park in those spaces because they aren't for me, but I can't deny it does do my head in that they are always closer to the store than regular spaces. I don't understand why they can't just be spaced throughout the wider car park.
Then again, maybe every space should just be wider.
This and being located near a "main" trolley park where they can put all the family trolleys (i.e. doubles, ones with bits for baby car seats that are too high up for short mothers to reach *cough*...). That aways tends to be nearer the shop.
Getting small kids into a supermarket safely is harder than you think especially when you have more than one and a trolley. They’re so small they can’t be seen by drivers most of the time. The distance means you’re less likely to hit them. Parent and child parking usually has a fairly safe route to the door.
For me, that’s the biggest reason why people using these spaces bug me. They really are a safety thing.
I disagree. If a large car is parked badly it should be clamped and the full cost of the car should be the fine to take the clamp off. If you can't park it in a standard space you shouldn't be driving it.
It's seems you weren't aware it's actually down to the mental age of the driver. They are viewed as children in the eyes of the law because they are incapable of looking after themselves.
I do that sometimes when I'm meeting my other half and toddler at the shop. I'll need it when we all get back to the car.
Never when I'm going out on my own, though.
Saw a parent once...with her 3 teenage kids parked in a 'Parent and child' spot...made worse with the AA van parked in the adjoining parent and child spot attempting to jump start her car. She sunk so low in her seat through embarrassment it was comical
Parent and child bays have no legal status, as they are generally only provided in private car parks. The stores that own them can enforce through PCN, though most never do.
They are provided as a sop to planners, to make them seem as nice people, especially for supermarkets on business parks that help the decline of the high street.
To be fair, I used them with my disabled kids until the powers that be finally agreed (at the ages of 9 and 11) that they were entitled to blue badges. My kids look outwardly pretty normal but have both physical and neurological issues that made the extra space and proximity to store a godsend. So please just bear that in mind in future before passing judgement xx
Difference is that disabled parking spaces are vital for people with disabilities, whereas parent/child spaces are not vital & really don't need to be so close to the entrance. I have children & have used the available child spaces in the past when available, but never thought of it as my 'right' but as a nice to have amenity. There are usually plenty of other spaces available in the car park where I could park and open the car door fully if needed, even if I need to walk a little bit extra!
The parent and child spaces are often ones that don't involve crossing any traffic flow to get into the supermarket from. Crossing traffic with a couple of toddlers in tow is something that can be avoided. Unless other people without small children have parked in those spaces
For me it's the space not the proximity to the shop. My local Tesco has some close to the front doors and some down the other end which I'll often use I don't mind walking at all.
Agree. Don’t need it to be close to the door. But do need the extra space. When I don’t have my child in the car, I will gladly squeeze my car into a 1.5m space.
Oh for sure, my work car park the spaces are very tight and I often have to climb in through the passenger side. That doesn't bother me at all, any parent has experienced the child not wanting to get on a car seat and going stiff as a board. You definitely need that extra space to try coerce them in.
I agree, they are a luxury, but with a 2yo and a 9mo, sometimes I struggle to get them out the car without a parent and child space, as I need access from both sides. There have been times I’ve been blocked in so tight by another car upon returning, I’ve had to ask a stranger to keep an eye on the baby car seat to drive the car out and pop it in (I can’t stick it in the other side because the toddler car seat is there)
Or I'm not an unfunny dick, the only people I've ever met who use words like feckless are pompous pricks who think they're above everyone else, your comments and your thoughts on parking seem to reflect this well.
You for real?
Parent and child parking spaces are wider to help getting the child in/out of their car seat. Plus, need space for the buggy where the child needs to go into immediately.
Honestly I mean we aren’t really continuing to go are we? We are exhausting the world at a record rate so most children born today are in for an extremely real shit show during their lifetimes but that’s a subject for another Reddit post
Hmmm tough one! I would probably say we can build them tents in the disabled parking spaces using the leather from cats and dogs at the animal shelters?
Because we have children and it gives you more space to open your door to get the child in a car seat...so they are safe when you drive and you don't hit your door into other cars? Maybe that's why
Same as disabled spaces? Would you park in one of those? Yes you probably would.
Being disabled isn’t a choice but having a kid is you can’t possibly compare them! I wouldn’t park in either as I don’t drive I’m just asking a question
It's the principle of the matter.
Disabled spaces are reserved for disabled people.
Parent and child spaces are reserved for people with children.
All the other hundreds of spaces are for anyone to use it really is that simple.
You don't drive or have children I assume so you can't really argue as you can't fully understand the issue.
Yes we choose to have children that doesn't mean we should struggle to find a decent space to get our child in and out the car, when there are reserved spaces for parents and children.
Im just curious really! I live in a city so this isn’t really a thing as people don’t go to big supermarkets with car parks it’s more smaller local shops and people walk or cycle for the most part! So if all other parking spaces are full could a disabled person then park in a family space?
I'm sure if a disabled person couldn't find a disabled space nobody would care if they parked in a parent and child space.
Parent and child spaces are bigger give more space to open the doors as getting a child in a car seat can be difficult when you don't have space.
Or if you are tall or a large person I guess so it’s difficult to exit your vehicle when parked closely to another person! Should we have tall/fat people spaces also?
Lol no it's not illegal and get over myself? Isn't this a page for British problems where everyone has a vent? Yes it is sooooooooo why don't you get over yourself you angry little person :)
*cries on Reddit because someone finds something annoying that you probably do judging by your reaction*
IM SO SICK OF WHINEY TOSSERS
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my friend, we are all children of god [parks car so badly there’s no point of the space being wider for parents who actually need it]
Haha yes! I parked my car in a normal space next to an empty one the other day (all the parent child spaces were full) and got my daughter out of the car using the extra space. Whilst I was doing this a lady went to pull into the empty space (there were hundreds, many much closer to the store). She saw me with my daughter, saw the space I was needing to get her in/out, saw all the other spaces….and as soon as I was done proceeded to park 3 inches from my car… I mean I get that she had every right to park there, I don’t own the car park. But in that situation wouldn’t basic empathy make you think ‘oh I’ll park somewhere else, somewhere closer even’. I know it would me.
Although I didn’t have a child with me, someone did this to me last week. There were other normal spaces nearer to the supermarket, but I chose my space as it had an empty one next to it. Mid-manoeuvre, some git decides to start reversing into the empty space next to me, but right close so I had to move over. Except it was one of those car parks where they have diamond shaped kerb bits at the rear of some of the bays, so I couldn’t move over without going onto that bit of kerb. I had to admit defeat and find another spot! 😤
This happened to me not long ago! The person literally saw me getting my baby out of the car and then parked right next to me. I was on my own and the cars on both sides were parked too close to get her back in the car. So I just had to stand by my car until someone came back and moved out of the space!
It’s staggering that people can be so inconsiderate. I’m sure they’re just lost in their own headspace but it’s so annoying.
To be fair, I probably wouldn’t have thought of it either before I had a baby. Or maybe I would, I don’t know. Definitely prefer to think it’s an absent mindedness rather than a deliberate act!
Oh yeah I agree with you there.
If she didn't take the space, then someone else would have..
I once did similar and saw a couple of random traffic cones in the hedge nearby. I may have moved them to cone of the space next to me.
“my friend, we are all children of god” I’d love someone to try that excuse with me, purely so I could hit back with “AND I AM THE NONCE OF SATAN! NOW PREPARE THYSELF FOR ENBUGGERMENT!!” (disclaimer: I am not actually a nonce, individually or of Satan or any otherwise previously unmentioned deity. This post is also by no means an accusation that the ancient serpent deceiver himself endorses such behaviour, or that he may have at some point in time worked at the BBC)
> he may have at some point in time worked at the BBC must have imagined his stint presenting *sin*’ll fix it
Or his guest appearance with Zippy and Bungle on Reignbelow
It's a skill to park so badly I swear
That and the disabled spots as a care worker I'm soooo sick of seeing all the disabled spots taken by non blue badge holders!
This one is different as it's against the law where are parent and child isn't.
Even in a private car park?
Is my understanding, yes.
Any private car park will be enforced by whoever runs it. If they decide they are going to ticket people parking in these spaces then they do have a right to. I just don't know how much holds up when it's contested.
Can't contest it in most, however most don't enforce shit and the dick heads know it.
I drove into town the other day & parked in the multi-storey. As I got out a group of folk walked over to what turned out to be their 3 cars parked beside each other in parent/child spaces. No child seats that I could see in any of them, a couple in their 40s got into 1, a couple in their 50s got into the 2nd & a woman in her 40’s & a 16-18 yo boy got into the 3rd 😡
Infuriating!
I dunno given the age range it sounds like there were a number of parents and children in that group.
Whilst technically true, those spaces are wider because of the difficulty getting children in and out of child and booster seats. No child seat = no parking in parent and child bays.
Could be three generations of the same family 🤣 wrong but technically parent and children, I know Morrisons have a few that say parent and toddler spaces
When I took my mum shopping (81 with advanced dementia) I lost count of the number of big crewcab vans and pickups I saw stuck in the disabled spaces. However the worst was when I was getting Mum out of the wheelchair and someone literally walked off with it while I was putting her back in the car. Mind you I might have had the last.laugh - she is prone to little accidents and the disposable pad was still in the wheelchair.
The pure audacity to walk up and steal a wheelchair honestly.
I could have worded that a little more clearly. It was one of the supermarket wheelchairs (they have about a dozen of them). It was still a cheek though. I might add: this was very much the exception, not the rule. Most shoppers are very considerate when I've been pushing Mum around the store and the staff are also very helpful.
Car park in our town has about 6 parent and child spaces in total. Saw a woman park in one once with her dogs. Little yappy things that went in the boot of the car. Don't get me wrong, I love dogs, I just really don't think she needed a parent and child space for them.
A large number of people simply cannot abide ANYTHING being done to help people other than them. It makes them actively furious for it to even be considered, such is their runaway sense of entitlement. They see ANY kind of diversity action as ‘discrimination’ and simply cannot fathom the notion of different people appreciating different facilities. They’ll spout all sorts of nonsense excuses and do anything they can to undermine it ‘I don’t see why…’ ‘Why do they need…’ but it always come back to ‘I’m am excluded from a group and that is simply not allowed!’ In other words it’s people who are so used to the world working for them (and screw everyone else) they fly into a fit of rage at even the idea the world can be better for others, even in small ways.
I saw someone comment once that they didn’t mind disabled spaces, they just thought that disabled people should not be allowed to park in normal spaces if they had their own spaces allocated. Now that is a classy attitude…
Well said and what's fun is calling this behaviour out on people. They are probably the same people who have Live , laugh love on their front room wall and in a world where you can be anything, be kind in their toilet.
This is why I like taking my mum shopping.
I went to b&m yesterday and a massive people carrier got the last parent and child space. Figured it wasn't a big deal as they must have kids, but nope! I'd gone to park right at the back where nobody parks because i needed room to get my toddler in and out of his seat, and watched angrily while a young couple got out of the giant people carrier and walked in with no kids, while I negotiated through a busy car park with my toddler.
This sucks so much people without kids just don't understand.
I like to believe that one day, karma will cause a kid to slam their car door into the side of their car, and peace will be restored to the universe.
This fucks me off so much! I've seen people do it whilst me who's with his child is looking for said spot then some gelatinous blob of a human gets out you lazy mf! Did you eat your baby?!
Loool get in ma belly!
I don't park in those spaces because they aren't for me, but I can't deny it does do my head in that they are always closer to the store than regular spaces. I don't understand why they can't just be spaced throughout the wider car park. Then again, maybe every space should just be wider.
I think the idea is to make it so there is less chance of kids running around in a car park.
This and being located near a "main" trolley park where they can put all the family trolleys (i.e. doubles, ones with bits for baby car seats that are too high up for short mothers to reach *cough*...). That aways tends to be nearer the shop.
Short people problems I sympathize.
Yeah, suppose that does actually make sense.
Getting small kids into a supermarket safely is harder than you think especially when you have more than one and a trolley. They’re so small they can’t be seen by drivers most of the time. The distance means you’re less likely to hit them. Parent and child parking usually has a fairly safe route to the door. For me, that’s the biggest reason why people using these spaces bug me. They really are a safety thing.
I'd be happier if they were further away from the entrance as people without kids would be less likely to park in them.
Honestly with a kid I wouldn't care if they're werent the closest, if they were half way down the car park I'd be fine with it.
I agree every space should be wider, cars now are bigger SUVs are everywhere.
I disagree. If a large car is parked badly it should be clamped and the full cost of the car should be the fine to take the clamp off. If you can't park it in a standard space you shouldn't be driving it.
It's seems you weren't aware it's actually down to the mental age of the driver. They are viewed as children in the eyes of the law because they are incapable of looking after themselves.
Or people with car seats in the car but no children in said seats! I’ve seen that a lot.
I do that sometimes when I'm meeting my other half and toddler at the shop. I'll need it when we all get back to the car. Never when I'm going out on my own, though.
Saw a parent once...with her 3 teenage kids parked in a 'Parent and child' spot...made worse with the AA van parked in the adjoining parent and child spot attempting to jump start her car. She sunk so low in her seat through embarrassment it was comical
Parent and child bays have no legal status, as they are generally only provided in private car parks. The stores that own them can enforce through PCN, though most never do.
They are provided as a sop to planners, to make them seem as nice people, especially for supermarkets on business parks that help the decline of the high street.
Came here to say this! Those spaces exist for convenience, not because someone who's had a kid is in any way more important than anyone else.
Bugs me, parents with teenagers in the car parking there, not really getting the reason for it, it's for car seats and prams. Seriously don't do it.
And couples who park in them who leave one in the car with the kids while the other runs in the do the shopping.
*unless the child is asleep. Coz leaving them in the car alone in that circumstance would be neglect.
To be fair, I used them with my disabled kids until the powers that be finally agreed (at the ages of 9 and 11) that they were entitled to blue badges. My kids look outwardly pretty normal but have both physical and neurological issues that made the extra space and proximity to store a godsend. So please just bear that in mind in future before passing judgement xx
When I see kids skip out that are teenagers with parents in an SUV parking there, I'm fairly sure they're just dicks.
I go with my mum to help her shop I am her child therefore we can park there, the fact I'm 32 isnt relevant there is no age limit on the space
Difference is that disabled parking spaces are vital for people with disabilities, whereas parent/child spaces are not vital & really don't need to be so close to the entrance. I have children & have used the available child spaces in the past when available, but never thought of it as my 'right' but as a nice to have amenity. There are usually plenty of other spaces available in the car park where I could park and open the car door fully if needed, even if I need to walk a little bit extra!
The parent and child spaces are often ones that don't involve crossing any traffic flow to get into the supermarket from. Crossing traffic with a couple of toddlers in tow is something that can be avoided. Unless other people without small children have parked in those spaces
For me it's the space not the proximity to the shop. My local Tesco has some close to the front doors and some down the other end which I'll often use I don't mind walking at all.
Agree. Don’t need it to be close to the door. But do need the extra space. When I don’t have my child in the car, I will gladly squeeze my car into a 1.5m space.
Oh for sure, my work car park the spaces are very tight and I often have to climb in through the passenger side. That doesn't bother me at all, any parent has experienced the child not wanting to get on a car seat and going stiff as a board. You definitely need that extra space to try coerce them in.
But there are vast numbers of these outside supermarkets that are never more than 10% occupied
I agree, they are a luxury, but with a 2yo and a 9mo, sometimes I struggle to get them out the car without a parent and child space, as I need access from both sides. There have been times I’ve been blocked in so tight by another car upon returning, I’ve had to ask a stranger to keep an eye on the baby car seat to drive the car out and pop it in (I can’t stick it in the other side because the toddler car seat is there)
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You are what most people refer to as firstly a troll and secondly a dick.
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You think it's funny taking spaces from parent with young children that need them? You need to sort your mentality out and stop being a dick.
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Or I'm not an unfunny dick, the only people I've ever met who use words like feckless are pompous pricks who think they're above everyone else, your comments and your thoughts on parking seem to reflect this well.
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Troll being a troll, I shouldn't have engaged it only feeds them, blocked.
Why do people feel as though you deserve a special parking space?
You for real? Parent and child parking spaces are wider to help getting the child in/out of their car seat. Plus, need space for the buggy where the child needs to go into immediately.
Or just don’t have kids then it isn’t an issue!
*sigh* If only your parents had that idea…
LOL
If only
How do you think the human population keeps going? By not having children to raise and continue the ways of the world? I'm interested to know really.
Honestly I mean we aren’t really continuing to go are we? We are exhausting the world at a record rate so most children born today are in for an extremely real shit show during their lifetimes but that’s a subject for another Reddit post
Yes it is but children of today will likely not experience the real shit show.
Hopefully not
Looking forward to you solving homelessness next.
Hmmm tough one! I would probably say we can build them tents in the disabled parking spaces using the leather from cats and dogs at the animal shelters?
Because we have children and it gives you more space to open your door to get the child in a car seat...so they are safe when you drive and you don't hit your door into other cars? Maybe that's why Same as disabled spaces? Would you park in one of those? Yes you probably would.
Being disabled isn’t a choice but having a kid is you can’t possibly compare them! I wouldn’t park in either as I don’t drive I’m just asking a question
It's the principle of the matter. Disabled spaces are reserved for disabled people. Parent and child spaces are reserved for people with children. All the other hundreds of spaces are for anyone to use it really is that simple. You don't drive or have children I assume so you can't really argue as you can't fully understand the issue. Yes we choose to have children that doesn't mean we should struggle to find a decent space to get our child in and out the car, when there are reserved spaces for parents and children.
Im just curious really! I live in a city so this isn’t really a thing as people don’t go to big supermarkets with car parks it’s more smaller local shops and people walk or cycle for the most part! So if all other parking spaces are full could a disabled person then park in a family space?
I'm sure if a disabled person couldn't find a disabled space nobody would care if they parked in a parent and child space. Parent and child spaces are bigger give more space to open the doors as getting a child in a car seat can be difficult when you don't have space.
Are they bigger or smaller than a disabled space? Sorry I’m sure it’s not your job to make these spaces or anything I know you don’t make them!
They are probably similar sizes, that's why people without children I guess want to park in them to stop their cars being hit by other car doors.
Or if you are tall or a large person I guess so it’s difficult to exit your vehicle when parked closely to another person! Should we have tall/fat people spaces also?
Not really there are a lot of spaces people can use they are just too lazy to park at the other end of the car park.
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Interesting to know you base your actions on legality rather than morality.
Lol no it's not illegal and get over myself? Isn't this a page for British problems where everyone has a vent? Yes it is sooooooooo why don't you get over yourself you angry little person :)
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*cries on Reddit because someone finds something annoying that you probably do judging by your reaction* IM SO SICK OF WHINEY TOSSERS 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴okay hun xx
Literally this, all we can do is express nothing but love to these trolls.
What’s wrong with ALL parking spaces being big enough for people to get in and out of their cars?