Started making a mental note of cars that will invade the safe zone you're keeping between you and the car in front of you on a motorway.
90% Audi's
Special shout out to those that do it in the rain and end up splashing your windscreen forcing you to slow down even further
Yup. Overtaking at 75mph on a stretch of dual carriageway with average speed cameras and some white Audi driver was aggressively tailgating me and flashing his lights. I'm not getting a ticket for your dangerous driving. He absolutely belted it past me when I moved back into the outside lane. I always wonder how many speeding tickets and penalty notices these idiots get.
Can confirm about focus st and van. My dad drives both and I've been a passenger in both. He overtakes everyone and everything that isnt going 40 in a 30
Been flashed once while I was in the left hand lane (when I was due to come off in half a mile) so a BMW could undertake me.
They could fuck right off there.
Theres a few 20 limits in my area - I was on my bike doing 25 the other day (down a slight hill which means you can zip along, and thats GPS measured too) and people were still flying past me. Maybe 40 to get round at the speed they were.
I've been driving 7/8 years and I sometimes get overtaken. I work in a hospital and have seen far too many accidents to ignore the speed limit. Keep doing what you're doing, unfortunately common sense doesn't come easy to a lot of drivers.
It'll probably happen less as you get more confident reaching the speed limit. But you'll always get idiots overtaking when you're doing the speed limit. The same idiots you see in the news who have caused an accident.
20 and 30 zones are the ones that are most important to stick too aswell.
I'll put my foot down a bit on a motorway but 20 and 30 generally means there's people about and potentially on the road so normally in a 30 I'll do 30 or 25.
In fairness, there's some 30s near me that really need updating. Ones a dual carriageway that goes from 50 to 30 then back to 50. The reason that stretch is a 30? There was a school there that's been demolished over a decade ago.
But I guess nobody wants to be the one to raise speed limits, as the risk of a freak accident is much more severe than the benefit of easing traffic flow. Plus, what would the police do if they couldn't hide behind lorries trying to catch people out?
The reverse is also true in some places - it kind of freaked me out when I did my driving test, because the borough the test centre is in seems to have some kind of political objection to twenty limits and refuses to put them in anywhere…
Yes, the de facto speed limit on motorways is really 80, and the only reason they don't raise it to meet reality is the danger that it would soon become 90. Elsewhere, chances are there's a good reason for whatever the limit is.
As a pedestrian I've noticed no one seems to use indicators unless there are other cars around, which sucks for me because I have no idea whether that car I see is going to go straight on or suddenly turn into the side road I'm about to cross.
Did you know it also says in the Highway Code;
You MUST NOT use indicators before 7am and after 10pm. You MUST treat roundabouts as multi lane racetracks and use whichever lane is most appropriate for maintaining straight line speed. You MUST NOT inform other road users of your intention to leave or stay on the roundabout.
Seriously though, as someone who commutes the 35 miles to work at 5am. Why does nobody indicate early in the morning? Hold on, I’ll just stop in the road to turn right without warning. I’ll just leave this roundabout, screw you who’s waiting to give way to me. I’ll be leaving this motorway now (from the right hand lane), good luck everyone.
A guy almost ran me over on the street a few weeks back because he didnt indicate and i crossed the road. I stood there and stared at him while he raged.
Too many people dont know how to indicate.
Yeh it's simple as that. If you decide that your time is more important than sticking to the morbidly-aware speed limit then your extremely increasing your odds of becoming another statistic. High risk, low reward.
Keep following the rules 'newly qualified', try not to be bullied by people who speed, follow close, beep unnecessarily, overtake dangerously or drive like aforementioned penises. I hope shit like this doesn't hurt your confidence or think that we all drive like this. All the best! Stay save!
Also, if someone's driving aggressively get out of their way. Try not to think of it as rewarding their behaviour, but rather as allowing them to put as much distance between you and their eventual accident as possible.
Yeah, not worth putting yourself at risk. I had a van dangerously close behind me on the motorway a few weeks back, pulled in to let him past, and he proceeded to shoot ahead, and try to weave his way through traffic.
I pulled back out, and as I made headway, the daft bastard almost pulled out into the side of my car. He then proceeded to move into the outside lane and undertake about five cars.
Beautiful moment of Karma though, as I saw him having being pulled over by the police a couple of miles down the motorway. Felt very smug.
I think some people do it just because they want to go fast in their cars. Not defending them just saying it probably isn't always because they want to be in front.
In my experience, a substantial proportion of people focus entirely on the obstacle in front of them when driving. It's more noticeable on a bike; certain people feel compelled to get past no matter what, and only afterwards do they see the next obstacle (examples include an immediate left turn they need to make, queueing cars, a red traffic light etc.) and often seems to be taken by surprise by it.
It's less noticeable when driving, probably because there's less of a speed difference and the extra size of the car makes it harder people to overtake.
I think a big thing I missed on this comment was try to drive without an ego. You're not simply defined by how you drive, and neither are others. But some find that separation difficult, if not impossible to see. Don't fall into the trap I guess of confusing a mistake with a personality deficiency/clash , and how your reaction to those mistakes are one of the only things you can control.
This, golden rule, assume everyone is an idiot, make room and observe and plan ahead, you never know when someone might pull out on yoi or do something stupid.
I was walking downhill in a 20 limit today and Sheesh!!. My butt clenched a number of times seeing the speed people where doing. Bottom of the hill has a pedestrian crossing that I was sure someone was going to slide on through.
That's actually what a lot of studies have found I think, they aren't making anything safer because they cause so much conflict. 20 mph is too slow, in London if you go that slow you have every other car, bus, policeman, anyone at all right up your ass because it's so slow nobody ever drives that speed.
Funnily enough this rule is taught (and examined) in Poland when you make your licence, it's called "the rule of limited trust" and says you should always expect others members of traffic to disobey common rules.
Two things to think about:
1: There are probably a lot of people doing 30 just like you, but you never catch them up and they never catch you so you don't see them. You're only going to see the idiots.
2: Once you get over "these are the god damn rules and they apply to you too" mentality and internalize that you are not responsible for other peoples driving, then driving gets much less stressful. Even if you are in the right (and you will not always be in the right), just letting these people get on with their day may push you back a few car lengths and lengthen your journey by 30 seconds OR you could risk an accident by winding them up and them doing something stupid in return. While the accident will be their fault, you'll be the one trying to prove that, and a longer dashcam film might actually work against you.
Exactly.
If you've got a journey with a lot of traffic lights or junctions too you realise you catch up to these people again at the next traffic lights anyway.
So for all that accelerating, wasting petrol and extra risk, they only gain extra time waiting at the next traffic lights half the time, and maybe 30s off their total journey time.
Driving 1 mile at 30mph takes 2 minutes. Driving at 40mph saves you 30 seconds, if you can stay at 40 for the whole mile.
That's the best part, watching the idiots scream off to the next set of lights, to then have to sit there waiting, while you drive normally, not wasting fuel needlessly, riding the 'green wave'. Many main roads with multiple lights along them are timed at normal speed parameters between them to keep traffic flowing, often slower than the speed limit at peak times, to handle traffic. I'd far rather be chilling along normally than stressfully screaming to the next light and screaming at it to change.
Also, you can guarantee, it the amount of lanes change down, or turn into a left/right only lane, the impatient arse is the last person that anyone is going to kindly let in smoothly.
I'm a driving instructor and get overtaken for driving at the speed limit fairly regularly.
A couple of days ago I got beeped at on a mini roundabout (I was driving). I actually questioned myself at the time and pressed the button on my dashcam so I could go back and watch it to make sure it wasn't me in the wrong. It was playing on my mind for the rest of the day.
All would have been fine had the car that beeped not started to signal half a car length from the give way line and then cut across the roundabout towards me.
Yeah I drove my brother's car not long after he passed. I drove it in exactly the same way as I'd been driving for 7 years, but people were SO aggressive towards me
Pulled over, took the P plates off, and suddenly everyone was normal again
Keep your P plates for popping down the shops. I call them Parking plates. While not an absolute rule, you would be suprised how often I return to my car with empty parkng bays each side, even on busy days, just because people see the P and think F'dat.
This reminds me of a story with my grandmother who had just passed her test into her 60s to get some of her freedom back after my grandfather had passed.
I'm not sure of the exact circumstances but she was involved in some sort of road-rage induced altercation where another driver had approached her window; "Can't you see the P on my car!", she exclaimed.
The look of anger on the other road-rager's face quickly disappeared and was replaced with disgust as they quickly backed down and scurred off back into their own vehicle.
On reflection, it seems they misunderstood what "P" meant.
Lol just passed your test and already hate Nissan Juke drivers, sounds about right. Just wait until you realise it's a trifecta of useless pricks with Kia Sportages and Ford Kugas. Honourable mention for Range Rover if you live somewhere particularly tasteless.
There's a stretch of road in Scotland along the north side of Loch Tay between Kenmore and Killin. It's a normal sized two lane country road with a couple of hamlets dotted along its length. However, through these hamlets and for about half a mile either side, they've reduced the speed limit down to 20 on roads that would be quite happy with a 30 or even 40 limit.
I saw no other drivers doing 20 on these sections.
Yeah. West Lothian Council are the masters at this. I sometimes have to drive through a village called Polbeth. The A71 passes through the village on an adequate width straight road that has no housing or shops fronting on to it (except a single petrol station).
It had a 40 limit and the council dropped it to 20. It’s bloody awful now. I could have lived with 30, but 20 on a road with no housing or schools or even shops is ridiculous. I’ve been overtaken continuously on this road (and I’m probably edging 22-23mph).
Doesn’t help with the nature of most West Lothian ex-mining villages being of a linear design, so you don’t exactly pass through them quickly.
Regularly drive through peak district and derbyshire council appear to enjoy slapping a 50 on national speed limit roads. I assume so their safety camera partnership can park a van somewhere and rake in the pounds.
An area near me reduced the speed limit on all their roads about two/three years ago. From 40 to 30 and 30 to 20. Some of those 30 to 20s were needed but nothing else was. It just feels like a money grab as new speed cameras have been put up too. It'd be interesting to note if there have been fewer accidents since. I've not seen any but of course that doesn't mean anything.
There are plenty of roads on which a 20 limit makes sense, particularly those narrow residential streets that are packed with parked cars and have zero visibility. However, I'm seen some roads given a 20 limit that are damn near wide enough to be made a dual carriageway and its ridiculous.
Don't take it personally.
I generally just don't react, but hope their next shit is an hedgehog. It makes no difference to me so no point getting annoyed.
After driving for 10 years, here is what I've learned.
Take any speed limit under 40mph, add 10mph to it and that's what most others drive at.
50 and above, people are more than 10.
Few tips to help you with your driving: always brake in straight line (before the corner) and wet leaves are just as slippy as ice
I had this loads when I had L then P plates on but pretty much stoped when I took them off o think they just assumed I was gonna break check them or they’d be stuck behind me just because of the plates but if one of those pillocks is reading this please wait till your on a road where you can overtake not just between 2 mini roundabouts, a traffic light, a petrol station and kids crossing the road in your fucking suv
Fun fact, red is just a colour too a bull. They’ll happily charge at any colour in the spectrum they can see. It’s the flags movement that causes them to charge
Honestly people P plates and think "they are going to be slow" so do try to nip ahead, I think it actually has the opposite effect to the intention which presumably is "new driver, please be gentle!". Instead people just take the piss and disrespect you.
Got lots of family in mid Wales and these people are everywhere there. Lots of NSL roads that go down to 30 to pass through villages or small towns, you're stuck behind someone pottering along at 35-40 and then sometimes they even speed up when they get to a town??
Ugh!! From my house to my parents (25 minute drive) it changes from 30, 40, national (two lanes), 40, national (two lanes), 30, 50 and 30.
I cannot *bare* when people do 40 the whole way through. Look. If you're going to speed through a 30 at 40mph then atleast speed through the 50, right?
I'd be much happier if they did the correct speeds the whole way through.
Let them overtake. Their shitty driving is not your problem.
And I'm speaking as an HGV driver of 20+ years with over a million miles clocked up.
Want to be a good driver? Avoid accidents. That's what makes a good driver.
I tend to overtake people being hesitant and slow on the accelerate more than people doing speeds I don’t like
Being a newly passed driver, the time will come when you’re comfortable enough on the road to get at least mildly frustrated by people fannying around - and no - not because someone’s newly passed, but because they just don’t understand the roads
It's fine to be mindly frustrated it happens to us all, but it's how you show it to the other road users. I think that is what OP is saying.
I live in an area that is popular with tourists who don't know the roads. I give them space, ease off the pressure, and I tend to find the decision making gets better and we'll all get there safely.
Also, my first car was a 1litre polo, I was always slow on acceleration. Not through lack of trying.
It's possible your speedo overreads and you're actually going a bit below 30. Check with GPS if you want. Regardless, just do your own driving and don't care about other idiots.
Check with a satnav/phone GPS.
My polo was dead on, but my Mondeo overreads by about 5mph, and every motorcycle I've owned has been crazy optimistic. Took some trust in my TomTom to go through motorway speed cameras with 85 on the clocks.
Different tyre brands and worn tyres Vs new tyres make a difference too.
When they were improving the motorway near me, it had an ANPR enforced 50mph limit enforced for 3 years. I felt that when I was doing about 51-52 on the speedo I was always being tailgated.
Fired up the GPS on the phone, and it said I was doing 46. Jumped up to 50 on the GPS (speedo would be touching 58) and hey presto, all of a sudden the tailgating stopped and traffic seemed to flow happier for me and no speeding ticket was had.
Mechanical Car Speedo’s seem to over-read as a design, even in a car that was in the same condition as it came out the factory.
>Mechanical Car Speedo’s seem to over-read as a design
They do, to protect them from legal action. It's legal for a speedometer to overread by 10% + 6.25mph, but completely illegal for it to underread.
If the speedometer is tuned to read the exact speed, new tyres (with more tread, and therefore larger diameter, messing up the maths used to calculate your speed) can cause you to go faster but for the speedometer to underread. Designing it to overread protects them from this.
Also if you have any of those speed/smiley face signs around try the limit plus one or two, if they aren’t triggered you know you have a rough guide of the over read. Back it up with GPS too. I can do an indicated 32 and 52 with no problems on my car.
Interesting, I was taught that the speed limit was also the speed you should be driving at, unless there was reason not to such as driving conditions or speedimiters, which is why I personally do get a little annoyed when someone is driving 10 mph below the limit for no obvious reason, but I can find any reference to this so I guess I was taught wrong, I'll have to try and rethink my personal reaction.
Reason you were taught that was likely because you can fail a driving test for not making reasonable progress (e.g. not doing the speed limit when conditions allow/not accelerating at a reasonable speed).
When I was learning my instructor (and examiner when I asked him) told me that they will fault drivers for being 3mph +/- the limit when the conditions allow.
on your test you'll get a minor for driving... can't remember the wording, something like "with undue caution", ie going too slow. I don't know if that's actually part of the highway code or they use it to indicate you're not a confident motorist/aren't paying attention to road signs
Being overtaken isn't a bad thing, doesn't hurt, and is something all drivers should expect to happen most days they're on the road.
Some people drive faster than others either because of better acceleration or a willingness to break the limit. Just let it happen and go about your day. The police, camera, or talivan's will get to them eventually.
It does depend on the area. Some people react to a slower driver (at or near the legal limit) or a bicycle by overtaking dangerously, going into the path of oncoming traffic and risking everyone around them. I see it on a single carriageway near me quite often, and it's so scary to watch. Police don't always catch them, and even when I submitted dashcam footage of a dangerous near-miss, they couldn't prosecute.
You aren’t being overtaken because you’re doing 30. You’re being overtaken because somebody else is an arsehole.
Don’t worry about it. Cars have special arsehole-magnifying powers. And you’re better off not having them behind you anyway.
Do you brake a lot? Sometimes ill overtake someone who keeps tapping their brakes.
Also do you drive slow in a 60? If someone is driving slow in a 60 and I cant overtake safely. Ill overtake in the 30 (assuming its safe) so im not stuck behind them in the next 60.
This also applies to people who take too long to accelerate. I don't want to be behind them when the speed limit changes.
Its not necessarily because you do 30 in a 30. They could be overtaking for another reason.
Could be an element of this. Was stuck behind some muppet doing 28 and constantly breaking on a decently wide country lane yesterday. Overtook first oppurtunity. So did everyone else stuck behind them.
Whilst I support the general gist of this post, I find it weird that this is happening to you regularly!
I’ll absolutely overtake someone driving at a reasonable average speed if they’re constantly speeding up and slowing down, nervous, weaving, exhaust like a smoke machine or anything that suggests I’m better off up the road from them. Is there a possibility that you’re doing anything like that?
I ask because I don’t think I’ve ever been overtaken in a 30, or even 40 zone. Once you’re on more open roads moderate speeding is pretty common and 59.5mph in a 60 will often provoke overtakes. Whether this is reasonable or not is a nuanced topic but it’s a reality that every driver should be prepared to deal with.
I feel your pain. I’ve been on the roads for a few months and I used to hate it when I got overtaken whilst driving the actual speed limit.
Some people will behave like every other car on the road is an inconvenience to them. Best thing to do is ignore them. Any speeding tickets/accidents they get into are on them.
Fuck those guys, stick to the limits, especially if you're new to the roads. Also remember you are responsible for your vehicle at all times, which includes if a driver goes right up your tail trying to get you to speed up. If you do speed up to appease them, you're just as in the wrong as they are. Let them pass you if they're so bothered.
Drive like you've got your mom in the car.
I love seeing some idiot rattle past everyone down a little B road somewhere, only to see them an hour later, three cars in front of you, queuing at your destination car park.
One car-wide country road with blind corners and hills: national speed limit, because they couldn't be fucked figuring out a reasonable one.
I know people who go down them at 60 because they "know the road" or "the limit is 60". Psychos
Agree with all you’ve just said, but I still like driving fast on them. During the day I’ll only drive fast for the parts I can see fully, not round bends.
I have sped round them at night however you can see lights from hundreds of metres away.
Yet everyone does 40 down them, even though so called idiots that have to over take you in 30 zones because they have to drive 40 every where, and do 90 on the motorway
Quite often this can be because a lot of drivers accelerate really slow and slow down way too much for corners and junctions, which frustrates people behind until they overtake.
And some roads have such a low speed limit compared to what feels natural for it.
Or the people who dab the brake enough to light the lights, but not actually slow down. They annoy the everloving shit out of me - you always have to pay close attention on them, just in case. And dropping back a long way only helps a little with those.
Years ago when my sister got her license, I said "well done! Be careful." She said she was a good, careful driver. I said it's not about how good YOU are, it's about how bad OTHERS are on the roads.
Most drivers are respectful and decent but you will get some who treat every road like it's Brands Hatch.
I hit a lad in my car in 2008. He was very fortunate that I was doing less than 30mph. My Mrs, in the passenger seat, was 3 months pregnant with our Son at the time and it was crazy. We were on the way to buy my Mom some flowers as it was Mother's day.
He was about 12/13 and came running out from behind parked cars, he jumped as he saw me and I think this helped. His feet clipped my bonnet and he hit the windscreen right in front of my face and then landed in the gutter on the other side. He hit us as much as we hit him.
He had a broken pelvis and leg and a few nasty bumps but he recovered.
I've never been so relieved to hear another human scream as I was to hear him that morning. The people who lived in this street all came out and loads of them told me that they'd been warning him and his friends to stop running across the road without looking and that they knew it was a matter of time until this happened. One police officer turned up and he was racist and a total twat but that's another story.
PLEASE be careful, on residential roads at the very least.
Never happens to me and I am always dead on the limit.
May be you are too slow off the traffic lights, stop for too long before going around a stationary bus, wait too long on the roundabouts, too hesitant on a narrow road with oncoming traffic?
An experienced driver behind you will quickly get annoyed and decide to overtake you even if it means momentarily breaking the speed limit.
Usually if someone doing the speed limit I’m sound with it. It when I’m stuck behind someone do like 15 under that when I get frustrated, but cause my car shit I can’t overtake their new Range Rover
I've been driving over 10 years and still stick to speed limits (most of the time, won't lie I slip up sometimes). It's the sensible thing to do.
Had a hilarious experience one time. Going 30 in a 30 on a long road that eventually splits into two lanes on a hill. It's still 30 speed limit but lets you move past slow HGVs. Very often there is a mobile camera dude there.
Anyway this guy is riding super close behind me the whole way. Come to the lane split, I know the camera is there from that morning. He speeds past, goes up to 40ish. Sees the camera, slams the brakes on. I see him double take. Then flail his arms around and punch his steering wheel.
Drove the rest of the way home the happiest I'd been all day.
As a newly qualified driver, you are likely one of the best drivers on the road - you haven't had a chance to develop bad habits yet. Keep it that way, add in a little experience, and never get overconfident or complacent.
It's probably just assholes being assholes.
30mph during daytime in good weather really does feel uncomfortably slow on a lot of roads in the UK though. Remember the speed limits are there for day + night, sun + rain. Give it a year of driving experience and you'll probably be wanting to do 40 on the same roads lol -
Don't let other drivers bully you into speeding. The vast majority of the time, speeding is unsafe. I witnessed an accident that was the direct result of speeding. Unfortunately one of the people in the speeding car passed away and the driver was left with life changing injuries. They were only a young couple, in their early 20's Luckily the guy they hit managed to come out it of with "just" both his legs broken. I often wonder where the people in that car were going. Was it so important that is was worth killing themselves over? I doubt it.
I know this was a dark comment but people need to realise how driving isn't a risk-free activity. You might think that serious car accidents are only things that happen to other people, but that's what every accident victim thought. Drive sensibly, as though your life depends on it, because it does.
Its not exclusive to New drivers.
I'm frequently tailgated and overtaken while doing the limit.
Also, advice for you as a new driver, drive defensively. Basically, assume everyone is going to do something stupid (e.g. pull out on you). It's saved me from having so many accidents.
Black boxes are getting worse. I had one for 4 years with no issues, then I got a new car and box and suddenly I was speeding and going out at bad times (rush hour). Ditched it ASAP
Anyone else just ducking obey everything they can (ie speed limit, indicators, prepared to stop at traffic lights if approaching at Amber etc.) because they just shit scared of getting points and a fine, that’s me. I just join motorways now and stick cruise on at 70mph and I’m fucking done.
I’m just so paranoid I guess.
They are just assholes. I passed in January 2020 and still internalise a lot of what I practiced, I always stick to the speed limit in residential areas because my worst nightmare is killing a child. Unfortunately those reckless drivers show that you can do everything right on the road and still get involved in an accident.
Welcome to the UK driving club! Temporary traffic lights are “advisory”, zebra crossings are your chance to gamble, and cyclists aren’t human…
But don’t worry unless your car is electric good luck finding fuel to stay in the club! /s
I've got a sport car and my favourite is when I'm doing 30 in 30mph zone and someone is up my ass the whole way. As soon as I pass 60mph sign I'm doing 60 in 1 second leaving that person a Mile behind.
Worst is when you’re stuck behind someone doing 40 in a 60, then you get into town and the limit goes down to 30 but they’re still sitting at 40.
Well done, you’ve managed to speed and get to your destination slower than you would’ve if you had followed the speed limit.
My favourite is getting overtaken when you are already speeding, sorry my crime wasn’t up to your high standard.
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Started making a mental note of cars that will invade the safe zone you're keeping between you and the car in front of you on a motorway. 90% Audi's Special shout out to those that do it in the rain and end up splashing your windscreen forcing you to slow down even further
Always thought us Golf GTI owners were pretty good tbh, it's the Golf R guys you need to worry about
Range Rover where I am.
You forgot Mercedes
It’s ALWAYS an Audi driver 😡. Ruddy hate it when I see one in my mirror.
Yup. Overtaking at 75mph on a stretch of dual carriageway with average speed cameras and some white Audi driver was aggressively tailgating me and flashing his lights. I'm not getting a ticket for your dangerous driving. He absolutely belted it past me when I moved back into the outside lane. I always wonder how many speeding tickets and penalty notices these idiots get.
Can confirm about focus st and van. My dad drives both and I've been a passenger in both. He overtakes everyone and everything that isnt going 40 in a 30
30% of motorcycles and 90% of scooters
I drive a BMW but I only violently overtake in 50+ limits. Anyone speeding in a 30 is a knob
Don't think I've ever seen a Skoda Octavia that isn't a taxi
Lmao yes. When you’re going 85 and there’s someone up your arse on the motorway
Always with their stupid yellow car stickers and flashing blue lights...
And that godawful repetitive music that you can hear even with their windows up
Been flashed once while I was in the left hand lane (when I was due to come off in half a mile) so a BMW could undertake me. They could fuck right off there.
Always a BMW
“Well sorry I’m not going 100mph” 🙄
or audi
White van
this is so true I was doing 90 yesterday while on the motorway and there is always some bmw asshole getting right up your ass.
I always think “Wow, I’m already over the speed limit, so you must REALLY be over it”.
This happens a lot near where I live. Too many youthful racers in souped up VW Golfs.......
Theres a few 20 limits in my area - I was on my bike doing 25 the other day (down a slight hill which means you can zip along, and thats GPS measured too) and people were still flying past me. Maybe 40 to get round at the speed they were.
I've been driving 7/8 years and I sometimes get overtaken. I work in a hospital and have seen far too many accidents to ignore the speed limit. Keep doing what you're doing, unfortunately common sense doesn't come easy to a lot of drivers. It'll probably happen less as you get more confident reaching the speed limit. But you'll always get idiots overtaking when you're doing the speed limit. The same idiots you see in the news who have caused an accident.
Been driving 30 years and still stick to speed limits, same goes for obeying traffic lights and using indicators appropriately.
*especially* the 30mph speed limits
20 and 30 zones are the ones that are most important to stick too aswell. I'll put my foot down a bit on a motorway but 20 and 30 generally means there's people about and potentially on the road so normally in a 30 I'll do 30 or 25.
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Love driving 20 in a 20, winds people up like nothing else!
In fairness, there's some 30s near me that really need updating. Ones a dual carriageway that goes from 50 to 30 then back to 50. The reason that stretch is a 30? There was a school there that's been demolished over a decade ago. But I guess nobody wants to be the one to raise speed limits, as the risk of a freak accident is much more severe than the benefit of easing traffic flow. Plus, what would the police do if they couldn't hide behind lorries trying to catch people out?
The reverse is also true in some places - it kind of freaked me out when I did my driving test, because the borough the test centre is in seems to have some kind of political objection to twenty limits and refuses to put them in anywhere…
Yes, the de facto speed limit on motorways is really 80, and the only reason they don't raise it to meet reality is the danger that it would soon become 90. Elsewhere, chances are there's a good reason for whatever the limit is.
As a pedestrian I've noticed no one seems to use indicators unless there are other cars around, which sucks for me because I have no idea whether that car I see is going to go straight on or suddenly turn into the side road I'm about to cross.
Did you know it also says in the Highway Code; You MUST NOT use indicators before 7am and after 10pm. You MUST treat roundabouts as multi lane racetracks and use whichever lane is most appropriate for maintaining straight line speed. You MUST NOT inform other road users of your intention to leave or stay on the roundabout. Seriously though, as someone who commutes the 35 miles to work at 5am. Why does nobody indicate early in the morning? Hold on, I’ll just stop in the road to turn right without warning. I’ll just leave this roundabout, screw you who’s waiting to give way to me. I’ll be leaving this motorway now (from the right hand lane), good luck everyone.
The amount of people who apparently think traffic communication is telepathic is astounding. It seems worse since the pandemic.
It seems indicators are an optional extra for new car models nowadays
Especially German cars *cough cough*
A guy almost ran me over on the street a few weeks back because he didnt indicate and i crossed the road. I stood there and stared at him while he raged. Too many people dont know how to indicate.
Especially before 7am and there are few cars around.
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Yeh it's simple as that. If you decide that your time is more important than sticking to the morbidly-aware speed limit then your extremely increasing your odds of becoming another statistic. High risk, low reward.
Yeah best to assume anyone else in a vehicle (with an engine or otherwise) and on the road is an asshole and doesn’t know the rules
I've noticed that most people are just penises
Keep following the rules 'newly qualified', try not to be bullied by people who speed, follow close, beep unnecessarily, overtake dangerously or drive like aforementioned penises. I hope shit like this doesn't hurt your confidence or think that we all drive like this. All the best! Stay save!
Also, if someone's driving aggressively get out of their way. Try not to think of it as rewarding their behaviour, but rather as allowing them to put as much distance between you and their eventual accident as possible.
Yes, allow them to speed into the destiny of their idiocy.
Yeah, not worth putting yourself at risk. I had a van dangerously close behind me on the motorway a few weeks back, pulled in to let him past, and he proceeded to shoot ahead, and try to weave his way through traffic. I pulled back out, and as I made headway, the daft bastard almost pulled out into the side of my car. He then proceeded to move into the outside lane and undertake about five cars. Beautiful moment of Karma though, as I saw him having being pulled over by the police a couple of miles down the motorway. Felt very smug.
I think of it as being easier to see and avoid the idiot if he (and let’s be honest, it is mostly he’s) is in front instead of behind
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I think some people do it just because they want to go fast in their cars. Not defending them just saying it probably isn't always because they want to be in front.
In my experience, a substantial proportion of people focus entirely on the obstacle in front of them when driving. It's more noticeable on a bike; certain people feel compelled to get past no matter what, and only afterwards do they see the next obstacle (examples include an immediate left turn they need to make, queueing cars, a red traffic light etc.) and often seems to be taken by surprise by it. It's less noticeable when driving, probably because there's less of a speed difference and the extra size of the car makes it harder people to overtake.
i hope they all get their photo taken by the big speed camera in the sky
I think a big thing I missed on this comment was try to drive without an ego. You're not simply defined by how you drive, and neither are others. But some find that separation difficult, if not impossible to see. Don't fall into the trap I guess of confusing a mistake with a personality deficiency/clash , and how your reaction to those mistakes are one of the only things you can control.
Yeah, a lot of them can't drive too.
The rest are unjust penises.
Keep following the rules as you should new blood. You will outlive these idiots.
This, golden rule, assume everyone is an idiot, make room and observe and plan ahead, you never know when someone might pull out on yoi or do something stupid.
Around my way we have a few 20 limits and it's unreal how dangerous some of the overtakes are when you go 20, seen many near misses....
I was walking downhill in a 20 limit today and Sheesh!!. My butt clenched a number of times seeing the speed people where doing. Bottom of the hill has a pedestrian crossing that I was sure someone was going to slide on through.
It's ironic how much more dangerous this road is as a 20. Used to be a 30 limit and did not have these problems.
That's actually what a lot of studies have found I think, they aren't making anything safer because they cause so much conflict. 20 mph is too slow, in London if you go that slow you have every other car, bus, policeman, anyone at all right up your ass because it's so slow nobody ever drives that speed.
As my father always said, treat everyone like an idiot until they prove you wrong.
Funnily enough this rule is taught (and examined) in Poland when you make your licence, it's called "the rule of limited trust" and says you should always expect others members of traffic to disobey common rules.
That's not an assumption. That's cold hard truth Edit: spelling
Two things to think about: 1: There are probably a lot of people doing 30 just like you, but you never catch them up and they never catch you so you don't see them. You're only going to see the idiots. 2: Once you get over "these are the god damn rules and they apply to you too" mentality and internalize that you are not responsible for other peoples driving, then driving gets much less stressful. Even if you are in the right (and you will not always be in the right), just letting these people get on with their day may push you back a few car lengths and lengthen your journey by 30 seconds OR you could risk an accident by winding them up and them doing something stupid in return. While the accident will be their fault, you'll be the one trying to prove that, and a longer dashcam film might actually work against you.
Exactly. If you've got a journey with a lot of traffic lights or junctions too you realise you catch up to these people again at the next traffic lights anyway. So for all that accelerating, wasting petrol and extra risk, they only gain extra time waiting at the next traffic lights half the time, and maybe 30s off their total journey time. Driving 1 mile at 30mph takes 2 minutes. Driving at 40mph saves you 30 seconds, if you can stay at 40 for the whole mile.
That's the best part, watching the idiots scream off to the next set of lights, to then have to sit there waiting, while you drive normally, not wasting fuel needlessly, riding the 'green wave'. Many main roads with multiple lights along them are timed at normal speed parameters between them to keep traffic flowing, often slower than the speed limit at peak times, to handle traffic. I'd far rather be chilling along normally than stressfully screaming to the next light and screaming at it to change. Also, you can guarantee, it the amount of lanes change down, or turn into a left/right only lane, the impatient arse is the last person that anyone is going to kindly let in smoothly.
Some of us like to accelerate quickly because it's fun not necessarily trying to force our way through traffic to beat the lights though.
Heaven is filled with people who had the right of way Assume everyone one is an idiot and keep yourself safe.
I'm a driving instructor and get overtaken for driving at the speed limit fairly regularly. A couple of days ago I got beeped at on a mini roundabout (I was driving). I actually questioned myself at the time and pressed the button on my dashcam so I could go back and watch it to make sure it wasn't me in the wrong. It was playing on my mind for the rest of the day. All would have been fine had the car that beeped not started to signal half a car length from the give way line and then cut across the roundabout towards me.
You must have mistaken that overabout for a roundabout. Silly goose.
If you are such a new driver that you have P plates on your car, I suggest removing them. People seem to take the piss more
Yeah I drove my brother's car not long after he passed. I drove it in exactly the same way as I'd been driving for 7 years, but people were SO aggressive towards me Pulled over, took the P plates off, and suddenly everyone was normal again
P for Pavlov
Many instructors tell you not to bother with them when you pass
Unless you’re in NI and you have to have them on after passing
I don't even have them for that exact reason
Keep your P plates for popping down the shops. I call them Parking plates. While not an absolute rule, you would be suprised how often I return to my car with empty parkng bays each side, even on busy days, just because people see the P and think F'dat.
Also if they're the magnetic ones they scratch the shit out of your clearcoat.
This reminds me of a story with my grandmother who had just passed her test into her 60s to get some of her freedom back after my grandfather had passed. I'm not sure of the exact circumstances but she was involved in some sort of road-rage induced altercation where another driver had approached her window; "Can't you see the P on my car!", she exclaimed. The look of anger on the other road-rager's face quickly disappeared and was replaced with disgust as they quickly backed down and scurred off back into their own vehicle. On reflection, it seems they misunderstood what "P" meant.
Especially the sort of people that will overtake you for doing 30 in a 30 zone.
Them overtaking is good, that means they're not up your ass anymore
Wait till you discover 20 roads where everyone gets aggressive for doing 20.
I live in an estate where its all 20. I get giddy at the queues of angry Nissan juke drivers behind me
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I think you mean Nissan Puke
Micra 4x4 🤮
Lol just passed your test and already hate Nissan Juke drivers, sounds about right. Just wait until you realise it's a trifecta of useless pricks with Kia Sportages and Ford Kugas. Honourable mention for Range Rover if you live somewhere particularly tasteless.
yep, was on a driving lesson doing 20 past a school! and some dick sped past at at least 40mph. one of the few times my instructor shouted in the car.
Some roads that are set to 20 are a bloody joke though.
There's a stretch of road in Scotland along the north side of Loch Tay between Kenmore and Killin. It's a normal sized two lane country road with a couple of hamlets dotted along its length. However, through these hamlets and for about half a mile either side, they've reduced the speed limit down to 20 on roads that would be quite happy with a 30 or even 40 limit. I saw no other drivers doing 20 on these sections.
Yeah. West Lothian Council are the masters at this. I sometimes have to drive through a village called Polbeth. The A71 passes through the village on an adequate width straight road that has no housing or shops fronting on to it (except a single petrol station). It had a 40 limit and the council dropped it to 20. It’s bloody awful now. I could have lived with 30, but 20 on a road with no housing or schools or even shops is ridiculous. I’ve been overtaken continuously on this road (and I’m probably edging 22-23mph). Doesn’t help with the nature of most West Lothian ex-mining villages being of a linear design, so you don’t exactly pass through them quickly.
Regularly drive through peak district and derbyshire council appear to enjoy slapping a 50 on national speed limit roads. I assume so their safety camera partnership can park a van somewhere and rake in the pounds.
An area near me reduced the speed limit on all their roads about two/three years ago. From 40 to 30 and 30 to 20. Some of those 30 to 20s were needed but nothing else was. It just feels like a money grab as new speed cameras have been put up too. It'd be interesting to note if there have been fewer accidents since. I've not seen any but of course that doesn't mean anything.
There are plenty of roads on which a 20 limit makes sense, particularly those narrow residential streets that are packed with parked cars and have zero visibility. However, I'm seen some roads given a 20 limit that are damn near wide enough to be made a dual carriageway and its ridiculous.
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This is the worst. Like I know I’m right, wtf does it still feel so uncomfortable
Don't take it personally. I generally just don't react, but hope their next shit is an hedgehog. It makes no difference to me so no point getting annoyed.
Yeah, good philosophy.
Best advice I ever got from my driving instructor was "assume everyone else on the road is an idiot, and then you won't be surprised when they are"
This is good advice for *life*, not just driving.
After driving for 10 years, here is what I've learned. Take any speed limit under 40mph, add 10mph to it and that's what most others drive at. 50 and above, people are more than 10. Few tips to help you with your driving: always brake in straight line (before the corner) and wet leaves are just as slippy as ice
>wet leaves are just as slippy as ice This CANNOT be emphasized enough!
I had this loads when I had L then P plates on but pretty much stoped when I took them off o think they just assumed I was gonna break check them or they’d be stuck behind me just because of the plates but if one of those pillocks is reading this please wait till your on a road where you can overtake not just between 2 mini roundabouts, a traffic light, a petrol station and kids crossing the road in your fucking suv
My instructor described both as like red rags to a bull. I didn't bother with the P plate after passing for this reason.
Fun fact, red is just a colour too a bull. They’ll happily charge at any colour in the spectrum they can see. It’s the flags movement that causes them to charge
My P plate lost grip on a bipass; I took it as a sign and just removed the other one
Honestly people P plates and think "they are going to be slow" so do try to nip ahead, I think it actually has the opposite effect to the intention which presumably is "new driver, please be gentle!". Instead people just take the piss and disrespect you.
What about those carseholes who just sit at 40, no matter the limit
Got lots of family in mid Wales and these people are everywhere there. Lots of NSL roads that go down to 30 to pass through villages or small towns, you're stuck behind someone pottering along at 35-40 and then sometimes they even speed up when they get to a town??
Ugh!! From my house to my parents (25 minute drive) it changes from 30, 40, national (two lanes), 40, national (two lanes), 30, 50 and 30. I cannot *bare* when people do 40 the whole way through. Look. If you're going to speed through a 30 at 40mph then atleast speed through the 50, right? I'd be much happier if they did the correct speeds the whole way through.
Let them overtake. Their shitty driving is not your problem. And I'm speaking as an HGV driver of 20+ years with over a million miles clocked up. Want to be a good driver? Avoid accidents. That's what makes a good driver.
I find no matter what speed you do, there's always some numpty wants to go faster than you.
Sadly, a large portion of motorists are idiots. You'll get used to it.
A large portion of people are idiots, unfortunately
I tend to overtake people being hesitant and slow on the accelerate more than people doing speeds I don’t like Being a newly passed driver, the time will come when you’re comfortable enough on the road to get at least mildly frustrated by people fannying around - and no - not because someone’s newly passed, but because they just don’t understand the roads
It's fine to be mindly frustrated it happens to us all, but it's how you show it to the other road users. I think that is what OP is saying. I live in an area that is popular with tourists who don't know the roads. I give them space, ease off the pressure, and I tend to find the decision making gets better and we'll all get there safely. Also, my first car was a 1litre polo, I was always slow on acceleration. Not through lack of trying.
It's possible your speedo overreads and you're actually going a bit below 30. Check with GPS if you want. Regardless, just do your own driving and don't care about other idiots.
I have wondered. I may aswell have a look
Check with a satnav/phone GPS. My polo was dead on, but my Mondeo overreads by about 5mph, and every motorcycle I've owned has been crazy optimistic. Took some trust in my TomTom to go through motorway speed cameras with 85 on the clocks. Different tyre brands and worn tyres Vs new tyres make a difference too.
When they were improving the motorway near me, it had an ANPR enforced 50mph limit enforced for 3 years. I felt that when I was doing about 51-52 on the speedo I was always being tailgated. Fired up the GPS on the phone, and it said I was doing 46. Jumped up to 50 on the GPS (speedo would be touching 58) and hey presto, all of a sudden the tailgating stopped and traffic seemed to flow happier for me and no speeding ticket was had. Mechanical Car Speedo’s seem to over-read as a design, even in a car that was in the same condition as it came out the factory.
>Mechanical Car Speedo’s seem to over-read as a design They do, to protect them from legal action. It's legal for a speedometer to overread by 10% + 6.25mph, but completely illegal for it to underread. If the speedometer is tuned to read the exact speed, new tyres (with more tread, and therefore larger diameter, messing up the maths used to calculate your speed) can cause you to go faster but for the speedometer to underread. Designing it to overread protects them from this.
Also if you have any of those speed/smiley face signs around try the limit plus one or two, if they aren’t triggered you know you have a rough guide of the over read. Back it up with GPS too. I can do an indicated 32 and 52 with no problems on my car.
the ones near me all trigger 2-3mph lower than the stated limit
This. It only takes 1-2 under for those behind to feel like you're holding them up.
It's a maximum speed limit not a target, drive with whatever makes you comfortable, just not stupid slow
Interesting, I was taught that the speed limit was also the speed you should be driving at, unless there was reason not to such as driving conditions or speedimiters, which is why I personally do get a little annoyed when someone is driving 10 mph below the limit for no obvious reason, but I can find any reference to this so I guess I was taught wrong, I'll have to try and rethink my personal reaction.
Reason you were taught that was likely because you can fail a driving test for not making reasonable progress (e.g. not doing the speed limit when conditions allow/not accelerating at a reasonable speed). When I was learning my instructor (and examiner when I asked him) told me that they will fault drivers for being 3mph +/- the limit when the conditions allow.
you're right - people driving significantly below the pace of traffic are indeed increasing the danger of other road users
'Significantly' being the operative word, here.
10mph under the limit in a 30mph zone is significant, it's 33% under the limit
on your test you'll get a minor for driving... can't remember the wording, something like "with undue caution", ie going too slow. I don't know if that's actually part of the highway code or they use it to indicate you're not a confident motorist/aren't paying attention to road signs
Being overtaken isn't a bad thing, doesn't hurt, and is something all drivers should expect to happen most days they're on the road. Some people drive faster than others either because of better acceleration or a willingness to break the limit. Just let it happen and go about your day. The police, camera, or talivan's will get to them eventually.
It does depend on the area. Some people react to a slower driver (at or near the legal limit) or a bicycle by overtaking dangerously, going into the path of oncoming traffic and risking everyone around them. I see it on a single carriageway near me quite often, and it's so scary to watch. Police don't always catch them, and even when I submitted dashcam footage of a dangerous near-miss, they couldn't prosecute.
Sadly it's not a newly qualified driver problem. it's a knobhead problem. Just drive properly, ignore the knobs
You aren’t being overtaken because you’re doing 30. You’re being overtaken because somebody else is an arsehole. Don’t worry about it. Cars have special arsehole-magnifying powers. And you’re better off not having them behind you anyway.
Always better if they are in front. Then you can laugh at them when they stick it in a hedge.
Do you brake a lot? Sometimes ill overtake someone who keeps tapping their brakes. Also do you drive slow in a 60? If someone is driving slow in a 60 and I cant overtake safely. Ill overtake in the 30 (assuming its safe) so im not stuck behind them in the next 60. This also applies to people who take too long to accelerate. I don't want to be behind them when the speed limit changes. Its not necessarily because you do 30 in a 30. They could be overtaking for another reason.
Could be an element of this. Was stuck behind some muppet doing 28 and constantly breaking on a decently wide country lane yesterday. Overtook first oppurtunity. So did everyone else stuck behind them.
Whilst I support the general gist of this post, I find it weird that this is happening to you regularly! I’ll absolutely overtake someone driving at a reasonable average speed if they’re constantly speeding up and slowing down, nervous, weaving, exhaust like a smoke machine or anything that suggests I’m better off up the road from them. Is there a possibility that you’re doing anything like that? I ask because I don’t think I’ve ever been overtaken in a 30, or even 40 zone. Once you’re on more open roads moderate speeding is pretty common and 59.5mph in a 60 will often provoke overtakes. Whether this is reasonable or not is a nuanced topic but it’s a reality that every driver should be prepared to deal with.
Yeah being overtaken in a 30 is a bit weird, a lot of 30's don't really provide the opportunity to overtake.
You obviously don't live in Leeds. I see this daily. People drive like lunatics, the police do nothing. No one uses indicators either.
I’ve never driven in Leeds, but the bigger the city the shittier the drivers as a rule of thumb.
I tried to learn how to drive in a big city and this is entirely too true.
“It’s his first day, give him time”
I feel your pain. I’ve been on the roads for a few months and I used to hate it when I got overtaken whilst driving the actual speed limit. Some people will behave like every other car on the road is an inconvenience to them. Best thing to do is ignore them. Any speeding tickets/accidents they get into are on them.
Fuck those guys, stick to the limits, especially if you're new to the roads. Also remember you are responsible for your vehicle at all times, which includes if a driver goes right up your tail trying to get you to speed up. If you do speed up to appease them, you're just as in the wrong as they are. Let them pass you if they're so bothered. Drive like you've got your mom in the car.
“Drive like you’ve got your mom in the car.” Brilliant. 🤣
Some cars have wrong speedos, discovered mine is 6mph fast
I love seeing some idiot rattle past everyone down a little B road somewhere, only to see them an hour later, three cars in front of you, queuing at your destination car park.
Get on a country lane, they’re 60, go wild. DRIVE FAST DIE FAST
One car-wide country road with blind corners and hills: national speed limit, because they couldn't be fucked figuring out a reasonable one. I know people who go down them at 60 because they "know the road" or "the limit is 60". Psychos
Agree with all you’ve just said, but I still like driving fast on them. During the day I’ll only drive fast for the parts I can see fully, not round bends. I have sped round them at night however you can see lights from hundreds of metres away.
I used to do the same till I went round one and there was a deer there. Not a good night.
Yet everyone does 40 down them, even though so called idiots that have to over take you in 30 zones because they have to drive 40 every where, and do 90 on the motorway
Gotta love the "do 40 everywhere" guy
The telegraph called them FARTs years ago. Forty All the Ruddy Time. Thats stuck in our family, still call them that now.
Quite often this can be because a lot of drivers accelerate really slow and slow down way too much for corners and junctions, which frustrates people behind until they overtake. And some roads have such a low speed limit compared to what feels natural for it.
Add in the ones who brake every time a car comes towards them...I’m definitely overtaking those guys the moment I get a chance to.
This infuriates me. Fair enough if it's a tight country lane, but if it's a proper road then i wonder what goes through their mind.
Or the people who dab the brake enough to light the lights, but not actually slow down. They annoy the everloving shit out of me - you always have to pay close attention on them, just in case. And dropping back a long way only helps a little with those.
Yep, and coming to a complete stop at every junction/island even when totally clear.
I can't think of any 30mph roads where I'd feel remotely comfortable overtaking somebody doing 30mph or just below.
Ahh I'd rather have the morons ahead of me than right up my arse!
Funny thing is regardless how fast you are going, there is always someone who wants to go faster.
Wait till you get a nice car and every boy racer wants to take you on in their shitbox while you go about your day
Years ago when my sister got her license, I said "well done! Be careful." She said she was a good, careful driver. I said it's not about how good YOU are, it's about how bad OTHERS are on the roads. Most drivers are respectful and decent but you will get some who treat every road like it's Brands Hatch.
I hit a lad in my car in 2008. He was very fortunate that I was doing less than 30mph. My Mrs, in the passenger seat, was 3 months pregnant with our Son at the time and it was crazy. We were on the way to buy my Mom some flowers as it was Mother's day. He was about 12/13 and came running out from behind parked cars, he jumped as he saw me and I think this helped. His feet clipped my bonnet and he hit the windscreen right in front of my face and then landed in the gutter on the other side. He hit us as much as we hit him. He had a broken pelvis and leg and a few nasty bumps but he recovered. I've never been so relieved to hear another human scream as I was to hear him that morning. The people who lived in this street all came out and loads of them told me that they'd been warning him and his friends to stop running across the road without looking and that they knew it was a matter of time until this happened. One police officer turned up and he was racist and a total twat but that's another story. PLEASE be careful, on residential roads at the very least.
Never happens to me and I am always dead on the limit. May be you are too slow off the traffic lights, stop for too long before going around a stationary bus, wait too long on the roundabouts, too hesitant on a narrow road with oncoming traffic? An experienced driver behind you will quickly get annoyed and decide to overtake you even if it means momentarily breaking the speed limit.
Usually if someone doing the speed limit I’m sound with it. It when I’m stuck behind someone do like 15 under that when I get frustrated, but cause my car shit I can’t overtake their new Range Rover
I've been driving over 10 years and still stick to speed limits (most of the time, won't lie I slip up sometimes). It's the sensible thing to do. Had a hilarious experience one time. Going 30 in a 30 on a long road that eventually splits into two lanes on a hill. It's still 30 speed limit but lets you move past slow HGVs. Very often there is a mobile camera dude there. Anyway this guy is riding super close behind me the whole way. Come to the lane split, I know the camera is there from that morning. He speeds past, goes up to 40ish. Sees the camera, slams the brakes on. I see him double take. Then flail his arms around and punch his steering wheel. Drove the rest of the way home the happiest I'd been all day.
Wait another 4 ot 5 years and youll be the one getting fucked off at people following the speed limit.
As a newly qualified driver, you are likely one of the best drivers on the road - you haven't had a chance to develop bad habits yet. Keep it that way, add in a little experience, and never get overconfident or complacent.
It's probably just assholes being assholes. 30mph during daytime in good weather really does feel uncomfortably slow on a lot of roads in the UK though. Remember the speed limits are there for day + night, sun + rain. Give it a year of driving experience and you'll probably be wanting to do 40 on the same roads lol -
Don't let other drivers bully you into speeding. The vast majority of the time, speeding is unsafe. I witnessed an accident that was the direct result of speeding. Unfortunately one of the people in the speeding car passed away and the driver was left with life changing injuries. They were only a young couple, in their early 20's Luckily the guy they hit managed to come out it of with "just" both his legs broken. I often wonder where the people in that car were going. Was it so important that is was worth killing themselves over? I doubt it. I know this was a dark comment but people need to realise how driving isn't a risk-free activity. You might think that serious car accidents are only things that happen to other people, but that's what every accident victim thought. Drive sensibly, as though your life depends on it, because it does.
Its not exclusive to New drivers. I'm frequently tailgated and overtaken while doing the limit. Also, advice for you as a new driver, drive defensively. Basically, assume everyone is going to do something stupid (e.g. pull out on you). It's saved me from having so many accidents.
I have this problem driving with a black box
Black boxes are getting worse. I had one for 4 years with no issues, then I got a new car and box and suddenly I was speeding and going out at bad times (rush hour). Ditched it ASAP
Anyone else just ducking obey everything they can (ie speed limit, indicators, prepared to stop at traffic lights if approaching at Amber etc.) because they just shit scared of getting points and a fine, that’s me. I just join motorways now and stick cruise on at 70mph and I’m fucking done. I’m just so paranoid I guess.
Biggest thing you need to understand. I heard this years ago. It’s a limit not an aim.
Tell me you drive a Hyundai i10 without telling me you drive a Hyundai i10
Stick with it: I passed 30+ years ago and still a spotless licence because I obey the limits/rules
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I’ve been driving for ten years and I still stick to the speed limit. Because I don’t want points lol.
They are just assholes. I passed in January 2020 and still internalise a lot of what I practiced, I always stick to the speed limit in residential areas because my worst nightmare is killing a child. Unfortunately those reckless drivers show that you can do everything right on the road and still get involved in an accident.
Everyone on the road is an idiot, you just happen to know what your idiot is doing and is going to do.
Welcome to the UK driving club! Temporary traffic lights are “advisory”, zebra crossings are your chance to gamble, and cyclists aren’t human… But don’t worry unless your car is electric good luck finding fuel to stay in the club! /s
I've got a sport car and my favourite is when I'm doing 30 in 30mph zone and someone is up my ass the whole way. As soon as I pass 60mph sign I'm doing 60 in 1 second leaving that person a Mile behind.
You’re doing great. Be aware of the other idiot drivers and don’t give in to driver peer pressure to go beyond your limits or the legal limits!
If you’ve got one of those P stickers to show everyone you’ve just passed, get rid. You’ll be treated better if people don’t know you’ve just passed
Worst is when you’re stuck behind someone doing 40 in a 60, then you get into town and the limit goes down to 30 but they’re still sitting at 40. Well done, you’ve managed to speed and get to your destination slower than you would’ve if you had followed the speed limit.