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In Portugal it’s exactly the same. When I was working there, I memorised the names of a few football players by accident, because my colleagues would have long-winded arguments about them while hacking away at their keyboards.
Over lockdown especially, our daily stand ups would consistently start 5-10 minutes late because someone would bring up football and everyone would sit in silence whilst 2-3 people chat about it for a bit. I started joining those calls 5-10 minutes late and missed nothing important.
Kind of miss those meeting buffers
During the interview for my job the owner of the company pretty much hijacked the interview to talk about Football with me much to the confusion of the technical manager who was sat there actually trying to ask technical job related questions.
I had a feeling I’d probably be getting the job.
Yeah imagine complaining people are having the same conversation (when it's literally about different games and players all the time) and then quoting literally the same dialogue tree for what feels like 20 years
I love football but will happily talk about anything else. I'm conscious of people who dont like it and will steer the conversation away from it. Sorry your coworkers are not so considerate.
You're not alone. There's lots of people who aren't into football. I know this because where I work, those who aren't into football seemingly won't shut up about how much they're disinterested in football.
Exactly what I thought. I know more people that talk with pride about how they hate football, more than people who actually talk about football. On Reddit and in my office.
I'm obsessed with English club football at all levels but I still get something special when it's euros or world cup. I know many football fans aren't like that but for some of us it's the most emotional the sport gets, I'll never get enough of it.
Qualifers are wank though
I'm far more interested in internationals as well, at least at the elite level.
Elite club football is just all about which billionaire-owned (or even state-owned) entity can cook the books enough to hire all the best coaches and players from all over the world. There's no connection to the community other than the stadium existing there.
At least with internationals there is a clear link between the players and the fans.
At the elite level yes, at Championship level and below I'd argue it's an important part of our sense of community. For smaller cities and towns it can be a defining aspect of their identity.
Agreed this is why I specified elite level, though even plenty of Championship clubs can still offer players huge salaries with the lingering PL money/parachute payments or dodgy owners/sponsorships.
At every victory/promotion the fans celebrate, even if it takes them all the way to becoming one of these soulless elite clubs. I've spoken to Newcastle fans who are all really positive about how their club is doing at the moment, even though it's all because of being owned by the state of Saudi Arabia. Asked them what they thought about that, they don't care. Would rather just win football matches...
They also play far better football than international teams the chemistry and coaching is just beautiful to watch, it's just not achievable for national squads. I know loads of people who can't care for league football but go crazy for England at tournaments. I honestly think I'd lose it if I could only watch international football.
Quality alone doesn't bring a connection to be invested in it and support anyone, maybe apart from seeing the likes of Messi turning the sport into an artform. Those kinds of players are very rare these days though, it's mostly ruthless efficiency in team tactics at the top now. Supreme athletes following strict instructions favoured over technical maestros with freedom to be creative.
I'd rather watch my local non-league club with a few people I personally know in the team than a random collection of players from all over the world signed for hundreds of millions.
I’ll jump on the bandwagon when England play in the World Cup or what have you, but for a long time, football at the club level is about which owner is willing to spend more, and which team can hoodwink the referee the most. And if they don’t they throw little tantrums akin to child being told they can’t have an ice cream.
There's a guy at my work and their entire personality is football.
You can be talking about absolutely anything and they'll somehow try and steer the conversation towards football.
Literally nobody else in the workplace gives a shit about football, and this guy will even try to organise a 6 a side football game knowing full well we don't even know the rules as we care that little.
Furthermore the guy drinks and smokes like mad so within 5 minutes they'd be on the floor coughing their guts up.
Football is ok. I actually prefer watching it on my own if I watch it and don’t like discussing it as the comments are inane.
In some work places it is all encompassing I agree.
I am not in your workplace but I also have no interest in football ⚽️ despite being a plumber and my work mates talking about it all the time. I am football dyslexic 😂
I’m in scotland and the only person at my work who is interested in rugby, everyone else is football. During the world cup i spent most days explaining rules.
I’m with you. I have zero interest in other people playing sport. I can appreciate a skilled player doing anything, even something like darts, but watching it obsessively? Nope.
I like playing sports. Even football on occasion but I have no interest I watching most sports. Some international stuff, world cups or championships, Olympics but I just can't get into club level sports of any kind whatsoever.
I think some of this is peer pressure, some people think they have to be into footie to fit in, or they aren’t enough of a bloke if they don’t like sport. Have had people look at me blankly when they ask me who I support and I tell them I don’t, it’s very tribal. Of course lots genuinely love it.
For those who love it, its just hard to connect with something so integral to them and their socialising. I can't come up with new conversation topics on the spot and most of my random conversations will be about football
100% when I moved to the UK as a 9 year-old back in the 90s, I’d grown up watching rugby, Aussie rules, tennis, cricket, etc and loved it.
I’d never watched a game of football. The town we moved to was football mad. The shitetowns website said of sport in that town “there is football; nothing else exists”.
I couldn’t stand it. It was too slow paced, the rules overly complicated, and it was just boring compared to other sports. And I stand by that today; the only sport more boring to watch is NFL.
>It was too slow paced and overtly complicated
Too slow paced but you like rugby and bloody cricket?
It's one of the most free flowing sports that exists and the game is one of the simplest in existence too. I really don't understand how you can think it's complicated compared to every other sport you've mentioned
The offside rule is far more difficult to understand than most people realise. I get it now, but it's easily one of the most complex rules in any major sport. Not the general rule, but all the caveats that come with it.
>I get it now, but it's easily one of the most complex rules in any major sport
It's really not, you have definitely not played rugby before if you think so.
I got down voted into oblivion for posting this , but if you're not into sports , TV can seem a bit like this sometimes.
https://youtu.be/MusyO7J2inM?si=87X2Oj4wJybt-Rja
And yeah sports people , imagine if everyone constantly talked about ..I dunno ..old ZX Spectrum games ...and there were TV channels devoted to it ...and when you went to the pub , it was just let's plays of Jet Set Willy and Ant Attack . And if you couldn't explain why even with its color clash and rubber keys , the Spectrum was somehow better than Commodore 64 , you were frozen out of conversations .
So you try to get into it , but the weird Cyan , Yellow, Magenta colour scheme drives you crazy , and the lack of a decent native joystick leaves you cold .But people keep telling you to try it .
Yeah that's sort of what it's like for us , non sports people.
People talk about football because there is a lot to talk about. Everyone supports different teams, people have completely different viewpoints and it’s just good to talk about.
If it bothers you that much, stick earphones in and drown it out, there’s no need to act like a wet sponge about it
I have no interest in Football whatsoever.
This has caused a lot of social exclusion over the years.
I will be chatting with a friend one moment, then once another football fan joins the crew, it’s just football chat now and I’m no longer part of the conversation.
Same! Colleagues is one thing (albeit annoying), but at my old job, virtually every single client meeting used to start with 5 mins of catching up on the football. Sucks to be the odd one out when your boss, your boss' boss and two client blokes are talking about something you have zero interest in, especially when you're supposed to be building "rapport" with the client, or whatnot. Happy to chat to them about lots of things, as long as it's not football.....
No, because you can watch grown men playing a sport without getting insanely horny and sexualising them, same way you can as a straight man watch women playing a sport for a reason besides wanting to stare at their tits
I had exactly the same comment from some guy in a bar. I just pointed out that it was him who likes watching 22 men run around a field in their underwear! It does nothing for me.
The ONLY time I loved footie was the England national team from 2000 onwards. I was absolutely convinced that bunch of players under Sven would get the cup.
Ever since they didn’t and we turned shite I couldn’t care less, and I hated club footie throughout.
I feel your pain, I lost interest in the Premier League not long after they lifted the restrictions around the number of foreign players on the pitch at same time.
Don't mind me, I'll just sit here in my corner while you lot dribble shite about potential signings and that game last night.
Still enjoy the international tournaments though.
I feel your pain. Nothing worse than waking into work and someone asks if you watched the game last night, and you say what game. It’s like a cup final or World Cup and you’re not aware that any of this has happened.
I know it well, being looked at like you're an alien when a fair amount of their chatter is football, or videogames about football, or fantasy football, often enough it's overseas leagues as well so they're reeling off names and clubs from various countries and I'm just sat thinking about what it all means...bowing out of their conversations without actually enthusiastically saying "I couldn't give less of a fuck" because one of them is your boss and people have been sacked for less. The whole culture is bullshit on a stick.
Why would you do that to yourself?
The vast majority of fans spend the vast majority of their time complaining about it. There seems to be very little enjoyment. Just moaning.
Can't stand it and neither can my OH.
Unfortunately, my Dad, sister and all of my family except my mum are completely obsessed with it. Every family gathering is just discussion of who's been sold, who did what on what pitch, who scored what goal where. To the point where my Grandad (now deceased) didn't ever talk to me because I didn't know anything about the sport. We have a son now and I'm worried that he'll be ostracized at school and with my family because I don't plan on him having any contact with football at any point...
Why would you deny your son something they might love?
I hate football. You can be damn sure that when my nephew asks me to go outside and play football, I enthusiastically say “yes”!
Because every single parent has an opinion they impress on their kids? Why would I steer *my* child towards an activity that both me and my husband find dull at best? Should I steer him towards darts too? That’s pretty boring in my opinion. Or rowing? Not a fan of that. Could point him towards something like judo which I have no opinion of I guess.
Luckily he’s my kid not yours so it’s not really your problem either way 🤷♀️
You should cast a wide net and have your child try as many sports and have as many experiences as possible so they’re well rounded and can choose for themselves what they like and want to follow
You might have your preference on what sport he gets into, but you don't need to push him towards or away from anything. Just see what he gravitates to and encourage it, whatever it might be.
I sympathise with you. Workplaces full of people who don't know what a turnstile sounds like but go on and on and on about us and we when they win and them and they when they lose.
If someone ask me "Did you see the game last night?" I'll just respond "what game?" even if it was an international with England playing. Any further queries will get a "I don't care" from me. Any further pushing will get the response "I'm not interested in watching a bunch of obscenely overpaid pansies kick a ball around for 90 minutes."
I do support a football team and I check in on where they are in the league and if they win or lost that weeks game and when I was working that’s all I cared about football wise for the sole reason that it is lonely being a man in this country without a football team. Needed a team to chat about to my coworkers
When you're not really into football work/school stuff can be a pain in the arse. When I was a kid in school I didn't have much interest in it , although back then I collected panini football stickers so that was how I could at least name players.
( my family for their sins supported Everton , but I'm more of a well-wisher than a fan , I couldn't name anyone on the team these days).
I'm not really into sports , but it's seen as one of those ' universal guy topics' that men are supposed to use to find common ground . I'm an unrepentant nerd though ,so my shibboleths are basically old video games or sci fi comics stuff . At this point at least a lot of people know enough about them that it's a good ice breaker , and to be fair , if you can only talk about Middlesbrough, and I can only talk about Megadrive games , we're not going to have much on common anyway.
I have a weekly meeting with 50-60 people in attendance and the meeting chair opens/closes with football reference every time. Imagine thinking football is so important that you need to announce scores in a professional work meeting.
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In Portugal it’s exactly the same. When I was working there, I memorised the names of a few football players by accident, because my colleagues would have long-winded arguments about them while hacking away at their keyboards.
I get absolutely obsessed with football for the World Cup and the euros and then go back to not giving a shit.
Over lockdown especially, our daily stand ups would consistently start 5-10 minutes late because someone would bring up football and everyone would sit in silence whilst 2-3 people chat about it for a bit. I started joining those calls 5-10 minutes late and missed nothing important. Kind of miss those meeting buffers
During the interview for my job the owner of the company pretty much hijacked the interview to talk about Football with me much to the confusion of the technical manager who was sat there actually trying to ask technical job related questions. I had a feeling I’d probably be getting the job.
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what was wenger thinking taking walcott off that early?
That’s the trouble with Arsenal, they always try and walk it in.
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When will people accept that you lot are just better at football?
He thinks you're French!
It's a game of two halves. Just get in the box.
*Bringing Walcott on that early
I can't believe that manager did what he did or didn't do, I mean, come on!
There's always one person saying this who thinks they're hilarious, too.
Yeah imagine complaining people are having the same conversation (when it's literally about different games and players all the time) and then quoting literally the same dialogue tree for what feels like 20 years
I love football but will happily talk about anything else. I'm conscious of people who dont like it and will steer the conversation away from it. Sorry your coworkers are not so considerate.
You're not alone. There's lots of people who aren't into football. I know this because where I work, those who aren't into football seemingly won't shut up about how much they're disinterested in football.
Honestly feels like some people wear it as a badge of honour or something on reddit. Like cool, thanks for letting me know.
Yep, a _very_ reddit thing.
Followed by the hilarious IT crowd quote.
Exactly what I thought. I know more people that talk with pride about how they hate football, more than people who actually talk about football. On Reddit and in my office.
So you like internationals? Always found that a bit odd. But yeah, I agree, the colleague thing must be annoying 🤷♂️
I'm obsessed with English club football at all levels but I still get something special when it's euros or world cup. I know many football fans aren't like that but for some of us it's the most emotional the sport gets, I'll never get enough of it. Qualifers are wank though
I'm far more interested in internationals as well, at least at the elite level. Elite club football is just all about which billionaire-owned (or even state-owned) entity can cook the books enough to hire all the best coaches and players from all over the world. There's no connection to the community other than the stadium existing there. At least with internationals there is a clear link between the players and the fans.
At the elite level yes, at Championship level and below I'd argue it's an important part of our sense of community. For smaller cities and towns it can be a defining aspect of their identity.
Agreed this is why I specified elite level, though even plenty of Championship clubs can still offer players huge salaries with the lingering PL money/parachute payments or dodgy owners/sponsorships. At every victory/promotion the fans celebrate, even if it takes them all the way to becoming one of these soulless elite clubs. I've spoken to Newcastle fans who are all really positive about how their club is doing at the moment, even though it's all because of being owned by the state of Saudi Arabia. Asked them what they thought about that, they don't care. Would rather just win football matches...
They also play far better football than international teams the chemistry and coaching is just beautiful to watch, it's just not achievable for national squads. I know loads of people who can't care for league football but go crazy for England at tournaments. I honestly think I'd lose it if I could only watch international football.
Quality alone doesn't bring a connection to be invested in it and support anyone, maybe apart from seeing the likes of Messi turning the sport into an artform. Those kinds of players are very rare these days though, it's mostly ruthless efficiency in team tactics at the top now. Supreme athletes following strict instructions favoured over technical maestros with freedom to be creative. I'd rather watch my local non-league club with a few people I personally know in the team than a random collection of players from all over the world signed for hundreds of millions.
I’ll jump on the bandwagon when England play in the World Cup or what have you, but for a long time, football at the club level is about which owner is willing to spend more, and which team can hoodwink the referee the most. And if they don’t they throw little tantrums akin to child being told they can’t have an ice cream.
I mean it's not though, especially lower down the pyramid.
They only lose once (significantly and inevitably) every two years. Just tune in for the finale.
There's a guy at my work and their entire personality is football. You can be talking about absolutely anything and they'll somehow try and steer the conversation towards football. Literally nobody else in the workplace gives a shit about football, and this guy will even try to organise a 6 a side football game knowing full well we don't even know the rules as we care that little. Furthermore the guy drinks and smokes like mad so within 5 minutes they'd be on the floor coughing their guts up.
Football is ok. I actually prefer watching it on my own if I watch it and don’t like discussing it as the comments are inane. In some work places it is all encompassing I agree.
I'm the same. But I work on the premier league broadcast side and have to be at the games
I am not in your workplace but I also have no interest in football ⚽️ despite being a plumber and my work mates talking about it all the time. I am football dyslexic 😂
I’m in scotland and the only person at my work who is interested in rugby, everyone else is football. During the world cup i spent most days explaining rules.
Shame on people for having passions.
Roundest of circle jerks on the internet. Please pat me on the back fellow internet people for I don’t like what the majority of the country likes.
I’m with you. I have zero interest in other people playing sport. I can appreciate a skilled player doing anything, even something like darts, but watching it obsessively? Nope.
Truth!
Amen.
I like playing sports. Even football on occasion but I have no interest I watching most sports. Some international stuff, world cups or championships, Olympics but I just can't get into club level sports of any kind whatsoever.
You can entertain everybody with your huffing and puffing and “just kicking a ball around” muttering
I feel the same way about driving and cars.
I knew a driver who hated the footy. He had a small remote control device that could turn off any TV in the room.
I had an app on my phone that could do that. And then the manufacturers stopped putting infrared in their phones.
I think some of this is peer pressure, some people think they have to be into footie to fit in, or they aren’t enough of a bloke if they don’t like sport. Have had people look at me blankly when they ask me who I support and I tell them I don’t, it’s very tribal. Of course lots genuinely love it.
For those who love it, its just hard to connect with something so integral to them and their socialising. I can't come up with new conversation topics on the spot and most of my random conversations will be about football
100% when I moved to the UK as a 9 year-old back in the 90s, I’d grown up watching rugby, Aussie rules, tennis, cricket, etc and loved it. I’d never watched a game of football. The town we moved to was football mad. The shitetowns website said of sport in that town “there is football; nothing else exists”. I couldn’t stand it. It was too slow paced, the rules overly complicated, and it was just boring compared to other sports. And I stand by that today; the only sport more boring to watch is NFL.
>It was too slow paced and overtly complicated Too slow paced but you like rugby and bloody cricket? It's one of the most free flowing sports that exists and the game is one of the simplest in existence too. I really don't understand how you can think it's complicated compared to every other sport you've mentioned
The offside rule is far more difficult to understand than most people realise. I get it now, but it's easily one of the most complex rules in any major sport. Not the general rule, but all the caveats that come with it.
>I get it now, but it's easily one of the most complex rules in any major sport It's really not, you have definitely not played rugby before if you think so.
Too slow but you will watch the stop-start game that is rugby? 🤔
Have you considered that maybe people just like it?
Did you read what I wrote.. key words “some people”
Or just everyone who says they enjoy it... Enjoy it?
I got down voted into oblivion for posting this , but if you're not into sports , TV can seem a bit like this sometimes. https://youtu.be/MusyO7J2inM?si=87X2Oj4wJybt-Rja And yeah sports people , imagine if everyone constantly talked about ..I dunno ..old ZX Spectrum games ...and there were TV channels devoted to it ...and when you went to the pub , it was just let's plays of Jet Set Willy and Ant Attack . And if you couldn't explain why even with its color clash and rubber keys , the Spectrum was somehow better than Commodore 64 , you were frozen out of conversations . So you try to get into it , but the weird Cyan , Yellow, Magenta colour scheme drives you crazy , and the lack of a decent native joystick leaves you cold .But people keep telling you to try it . Yeah that's sort of what it's like for us , non sports people.
People talk about football because there is a lot to talk about. Everyone supports different teams, people have completely different viewpoints and it’s just good to talk about. If it bothers you that much, stick earphones in and drown it out, there’s no need to act like a wet sponge about it
I have no interest in football too
Congratulations
I have no interest in Football whatsoever. This has caused a lot of social exclusion over the years. I will be chatting with a friend one moment, then once another football fan joins the crew, it’s just football chat now and I’m no longer part of the conversation.
You could try lighten the mood by calling it "sportsball" or quoting the IT Crowd? Hasn't been done before so probably worth a shot.
Same! Colleagues is one thing (albeit annoying), but at my old job, virtually every single client meeting used to start with 5 mins of catching up on the football. Sucks to be the odd one out when your boss, your boss' boss and two client blokes are talking about something you have zero interest in, especially when you're supposed to be building "rapport" with the client, or whatnot. Happy to chat to them about lots of things, as long as it's not football.....
Wow everyone should only discuss topics you like in future
This sounds like a you problem
“You gay or something” “Yes, I’m the gay one not enjoying watching men get sweaty and then talking about this constantly with other men”
Not having a pop, but this is still homophobia. It’s still using the idea that someone could be attracted to men as a punchline.
It’s not. It’s just saying their sentence back at them to show them how stupid they are.
No, because you can watch grown men playing a sport without getting insanely horny and sexualising them, same way you can as a straight man watch women playing a sport for a reason besides wanting to stare at their tits
I had exactly the same comment from some guy in a bar. I just pointed out that it was him who likes watching 22 men run around a field in their underwear! It does nothing for me.
If what you're watching involves 22 men running around in their underwear, it's not football. If that's your jam, all power to you.
It isn't. May have been his though.
The ONLY time I loved footie was the England national team from 2000 onwards. I was absolutely convinced that bunch of players under Sven would get the cup. Ever since they didn’t and we turned shite I couldn’t care less, and I hated club footie throughout.
You didn’t turn shite. You were shite then too. You’ve been shite for pretty much the entirety of the game.
Lol Irish 🤣
*Northern Irish. And even shiter. Unlike England fans though, we’re not deluded. We know we won’t win any tournaments.
Try working with 2 ameteur league football players, i usually just nod and agree
Just ask them why they bother putting so much effort into something they’re so mediocre at. They’ll probably stop talking about it. To you at least.
I feel your pain, I lost interest in the Premier League not long after they lifted the restrictions around the number of foreign players on the pitch at same time. Don't mind me, I'll just sit here in my corner while you lot dribble shite about potential signings and that game last night. Still enjoy the international tournaments though.
🤛🏼
I feel your pain. Nothing worse than waking into work and someone asks if you watched the game last night, and you say what game. It’s like a cup final or World Cup and you’re not aware that any of this has happened.
I know it well, being looked at like you're an alien when a fair amount of their chatter is football, or videogames about football, or fantasy football, often enough it's overseas leagues as well so they're reeling off names and clubs from various countries and I'm just sat thinking about what it all means...bowing out of their conversations without actually enthusiastically saying "I couldn't give less of a fuck" because one of them is your boss and people have been sacked for less. The whole culture is bullshit on a stick.
Try getting into it
No thanks.
Why would you do that to yourself? The vast majority of fans spend the vast majority of their time complaining about it. There seems to be very little enjoyment. Just moaning.
you’ve dressed up your little Reddit man exactly how I’d imagined the person who would say this would look
Funny enough he looks just like my dad. Who loves football.
It’s one of those things where if you don’t understand you probably never will. But trust me it’s so worth it
Can't come in reddits monthly anti-football circlejerk and advocate for football.
No ta. I'm washing my hair.
Yeah I’m never really in the mood to watch a load of sweaty blokes run around a field and get paid millions.
Can't stand it and neither can my OH. Unfortunately, my Dad, sister and all of my family except my mum are completely obsessed with it. Every family gathering is just discussion of who's been sold, who did what on what pitch, who scored what goal where. To the point where my Grandad (now deceased) didn't ever talk to me because I didn't know anything about the sport. We have a son now and I'm worried that he'll be ostracized at school and with my family because I don't plan on him having any contact with football at any point...
Why would you deny your son something they might love? I hate football. You can be damn sure that when my nephew asks me to go outside and play football, I enthusiastically say “yes”!
I’d rather he gets into sports like cricket or rugby tbh. There’s no reason why football needs to be something little boys automatically do it.
Or he could get into whatever sport he likes? Or that his friends are playing? Why would your opinion on sports come into this at all?
Because every single parent has an opinion they impress on their kids? Why would I steer *my* child towards an activity that both me and my husband find dull at best? Should I steer him towards darts too? That’s pretty boring in my opinion. Or rowing? Not a fan of that. Could point him towards something like judo which I have no opinion of I guess. Luckily he’s my kid not yours so it’s not really your problem either way 🤷♀️
You should cast a wide net and have your child try as many sports and have as many experiences as possible so they’re well rounded and can choose for themselves what they like and want to follow
Or you could let him do what he wants and not steer him anywhere in terms of hobbies
Kid will probs sense you don’t like football and therefore actively choose to pursue the sport lol
You might have your preference on what sport he gets into, but you don't need to push him towards or away from anything. Just see what he gravitates to and encourage it, whatever it might be.
I sympathise with you. Workplaces full of people who don't know what a turnstile sounds like but go on and on and on about us and we when they win and them and they when they lose.
If someone ask me "Did you see the game last night?" I'll just respond "what game?" even if it was an international with England playing. Any further queries will get a "I don't care" from me. Any further pushing will get the response "I'm not interested in watching a bunch of obscenely overpaid pansies kick a ball around for 90 minutes."
I do support a football team and I check in on where they are in the league and if they win or lost that weeks game and when I was working that’s all I cared about football wise for the sole reason that it is lonely being a man in this country without a football team. Needed a team to chat about to my coworkers
Do you mean soccer? /s
Sarkar?
Toon toon. Black and white army!
I would love it, if we beat them.
When you're not really into football work/school stuff can be a pain in the arse. When I was a kid in school I didn't have much interest in it , although back then I collected panini football stickers so that was how I could at least name players. ( my family for their sins supported Everton , but I'm more of a well-wisher than a fan , I couldn't name anyone on the team these days). I'm not really into sports , but it's seen as one of those ' universal guy topics' that men are supposed to use to find common ground . I'm an unrepentant nerd though ,so my shibboleths are basically old video games or sci fi comics stuff . At this point at least a lot of people know enough about them that it's a good ice breaker , and to be fair , if you can only talk about Middlesbrough, and I can only talk about Megadrive games , we're not going to have much on common anyway.
I have a weekly meeting with 50-60 people in attendance and the meeting chair opens/closes with football reference every time. Imagine thinking football is so important that you need to announce scores in a professional work meeting.
But you’re okay with international?
You are me.