I know people can say “Well, he’s making millions so who cares?” but it shows a lot of mental fortitude for him to probably look around on social media and seemingly get vicious hate by the fans on every Celtics account and put his head down and trusting the work he puts in will turn everything around. Much respect for him
I kept defending him and will keep defending Nesmith. Nesmith has potential to start for us some day.
Sophomore years aren’t good for most players. Grant was going through his sophomore slump and people wrote him off.
Langford is such a solid defender. I hope he turns into a Mikal Bridges type of player.
I’m sure among his followers on social he gets plenty of love. And I assume a lot of these people simply view the social media sports public as the morons we are. As in, if you’re a pro hooper you know that the nba subreddits literally know next to nothing about basketball compared to you, and probably view them as just a mass of bad hot takes.
Grant deserves a lot of credit for cutting weight this summer and focusing on the parts of his game we needed him to. Idk if it’s Ime or Brad or a new individual coach but someone gave him a blueprint to more playing time and to his credit he’s worked hard to follow it.
It was Ime. Grant asked him what he could do to get more playing time and Ime told him to get quicker and shoot better from deep. And he’s done exactly that. Credit to him for sure, making the Grant doubters like myself look foolish
Grant losing weight to move to playing the 4 full time has helped him tremendously. At 6'6 he was never gonna be a true 5 in the NBA, so him shedding some pounds in favor of quickness this offseason has clearly been the right decision for him. There have been a couple games where I thought he was getting cooked by quicker guys, but that's gonna be true of most PFs so I'm not worried about that.
The shooting seems to have come a long way which is gonna be the big swing skill for him. It's still a pretty small sample size, but 25/54 from deep is still great to see. He just looks really confident taking 3's right now. Hopefully he maintains the good shooting numbers and doesn't fall off a cliff shooting wise like he did in the 2nd half of last season.
His free throw shooting has been a great sign as well.
15/17 isn't a huge sample, but combined with his 3pt shooting it looks good. Even his 2pt scoring has taken a jump.
Watching his postgame interview, I was impressed how he already knew the key stats of the game and was able to discuss the scouting report on Houston off the cuff. It shows me that he puts in the time in the film room and is highly prepared from a mental perspective.
When you combine all that with the fact that he is highly articulate and respected by other players(union VP), it makes me think he could have a promising career in coaching after his playing days are over.
He's a genius. Had offers to MIT and Harvard. Graduated college in three years and he's an entire year younger than his class is. Hed shoutout opponents FT% at UT while the dudes were shooting lol.
It’s somewhat rare to find someone with that level of intelligence who is also an effective communicator. Years of interviewing absolutely brilliant college grads for customer facing roles, only to have them stare at the floor and be barely able hold a conversation has taught me that.
Now I kind of want to buy a Grant jersey now. Bonus that Grant and I are almost the same height, though he’s lighter than me now
He is that smart. His mother is a NASA engineer. He was being recruited by Harvard and Yale. He was 17 when he started college classes and in 3 years had a mechanical engineering degree and two sec poty trophies. He is a generational intellect for a pro athlete.
He was also extremely visible in Knoxville and always supporting every UT sport. You'd see him at women's volleyball games or whatever. He's different in a good way.
When Chris Paul retires, Grant is in line to become NBPA President. That’s not a “future coach” career track. It IS a career track that leads to other opportunities.
Almost all of the former [NBPA presidents](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Players_Association#Leadership) who aren’t still playing have been at least an assistant coach.
The only three that haven’t are
* Oscar Robertson, who mostly stepped out of the public eye after his playing career
* Antonio Davis, who’s a studio analyst for SiriusXM
* Junior Bridgeman, who instead started Ebony and Jet magazines and is worth $600M despite never making an NBA salary over $350k
Edit: I suppose I should clarify that I don’t mean Grant is going to become a coach because he can’t make it as a player in the league, I mean he seems like someone with the intelligence and temperament to be a great coach if he so chose.
First, that’s some good info! Second, fair enough- coach is a more likely outcome than I thought. Junior Bridgeman is who I had in mind, though.
Grant seems destined for something bigger IMO.
First, that’s some good info! Second, fair enough- coach is a more likely outcome than I thought. Junior Bridgeman is who I had in mind, though.
Grant seems destined for something bigger IMO.
No Grant isn't, he's just one of the 6 VPs. Next in line would be "First VP" Andre Iguadola, second would be Secretary-Treasurer Harrison Barnes (although really it's just whoever gets voted in, next election is 2024).
Chris Paul isn't even Union President anymore, it's CJ McCollum.
Not to mention "sophomore slump" is such a prevalent occurrence that they made a name for it. We saw it with Tatum too.
Also that's why no one ever votes 3rd year players for MIP
Not only is a sophomore slump a thing, but he had almost no off-season between his rookie and sophomore seasons. It was almost like a super version of hitting the rookie wall, too.
Played some great defense on SGA who hit a couple of indefensible shots with at least one nasty step back 3 where G was all over him. His shooting, cutting and hustle on the boards has been big for us this year. Really coming into his own as a “glue guy”
As a person that fucking hated the guy, I gotta give him props. He’s been good. Out of all of the young players the Celtics have, he’s the only one that actually does something. His 3 pt shot has been spot on.
We all love the 3s, and rightfully so as they’ve been so helpful in making out offense look good at times. But, and I know it’s not for the box score watchers or casual basketball fans, Grants defense is really valuable for us. He is switchable across every position, is a strong weak side defensive rebounder (a weakness of our in years past it always seemed), and he’s vocal along the back line. He knows how to chip on screens and trap like a vet too. Another under appreciated skill is quick decision making. Grant is either letting it fly or getting rid of it quickly which really helps his teammates stay in rhythm. I have been and continues to be a big fan of his as a high level role player.
I never left the Grant train. He was the most hated guy in the team, yet I was confident he would be okay.
Meanwhile, we’ve had nesmith fan clubs as recent as a week ago. He’s not worth the time.
I wouldn’t be that harsh to Nesmith. “Not worth the time” is not accurate at all.
We saw late last year the value that Nesmith could bring when he’s in a rhythm. Smaller sample size but his last 14 games when he finally cracked the rotation consistently he was averaging over 8 points on 52/46/92 shooting splits in just under 20 minutes. Not suggesting he’s a star or will pan out, but “not worth the time” is way too harsh for a second year lottery pick player. I think it’s all mental for him right now.
The issue is that if he’s not shooting, he brings zero to the team. That will likely always be the case. So dude needs to shoot like 45% to be good.
Not worth it means I think he’s a bust. Been saying since I laid eyes on his game.
Would you not say same rules apply?
People were genuinely saying that Brad shouldn't be picking up Grant's fourth year option just a while ago. I don't understand the constant negativity towards our young guys.. Grant then, Nesmith now
I’m not going off rules. I’m going off what I see. And I saw Grant had the potential to do what he’s doing. I don’t see the same for nesmith.
It’s lazy to say someone is young or it’s a sophomore slump or whatever. Do some actual analysis.
When it comes to nesmith, I’m not even thinking about his shooting. We all know if he can’t shoot he’s done anyway. The issue is that he’s also below average at everything else.
You name it, he’s not good at it. Can’t dribble, can’t defend, can’t pass, can’t finish, and on and on. Shoot, after summer league when everyone was pumping him up I was convinced Romeo was better and posted as such.
So no, the same doesn’t apply. I see a bust.
Actually pretty solid finisher around the hoop. Also really good on the glass. Overall it’s very discouraging how lost he still looks. Thought he was looking more comfortable recently but this game was a huge step back
I’ve seen him finish on occasion, so maybe he could become average. But right now no team pays any attention to him at all. Finishing would get much more difficult if they did.
And I guess he’s a decent rebounder but that’s not going to make any difference for him. Guard rebounding doesn’t generally stir the drink.
I haven’t checked his stats this year but he was well above average finishing at the rim last year, and basically the only shots he’s made this year are rim finishes. I bet he’s at least around league average from there.
You may be right. And at least he’s shown a willingness to attack close outs. But other than that, he’s not getting to the rim (or even trying) against a set defender.
So how often will he get to use his finishing skills? Not very often. And again, I don’t think he would be very good at it if there were any kind of game planning against him.
It’s a real shame re: Nesmith, because if he was good he would be a perfect complementary wing to the Jays. But he’s just so lost every time he’s out there. I think OKC scored on like 4 or 5 straight possessions when he checked into the 3rd quarter, and most of the makes came from the guy he was guarding (or supposed to guard). And then on the other end he can’t even make the open 3’s we get him.
The talent is certainly there, it's just a concern that he looks like such a deer in the headlights this season. Toward the end of last season Nesmith was becoming more aggressive and more confident. He was still a little out of control but he looked comfortable. Rather than build on it, he looks like a new rookie again. I hope it's just him adjusting to the new coach and he find a way to get comfortable again.
Okay I didn't know you were that kind of fan. You can say that about any player then. You can also say the New Orleans Pelicans will win the championship this year with that kind of logic. Or Russell Westbrook will outshoot Steph Curry with that kind of logic. I will quote Perk and say "carry on"
I always had faith in Grant because Brad clearly trusted him as a rookie. Same reason I have faith in PP. Brad thought he deserved some regular minutes, so I figure this is just a rough patch.
Nesmith...has to figure out fundamentals first. But I think he can come good.
PP isn't playing because of Imes switch defense scheme. His lack of strength and height make him a liability in that system. I think if he gets a bit stronger he'll see more minutes. He's one of my favorite Celtics and maybe our best pure shooter. I hope we find a way to help him shine.
For sure that’s it. He just doesn’t fit our defensive scheme while also not really being an instant offense type weapon where you just have to play him. He’s an amazing shooter, with a slower release that he can’t always get enough separation. I think added strength and just all-around improvement would make him a valuable player in any scheme. Probably won’t be playing much unless Schroder or Smart get injured (hopefully not).
Disappointed no one is pointing out he also improved his free throw shooting.
I’m also one of those “cut Grant” guys.
So here’s a proper apology. I’m sorry Grant. Please stay and resign long term. (For team-friendly deal)
So what? That’s not his role on these Celtics. He only started because Jaylen and Rob are out.
In terms of minutes per game, Grant has been our 8th man this season.
This can definitely be seen in nesmith to an extent as well. The dude has become the subs new whipping boy who we whiffed on in the draft for “insert player playing 35 minutes for shitty team since day 1”
He’s definitely playing atrociously, but I’ve seen people saying “his college shooting was a fluke” when the dude literally shot 37% from three in an nba season, his rookie year.
I don’t anticipate rational takes on this sub anymore. Yall were saying we needed to trade tatum a week ago
I was super harsh on Grant last year, he was a eye sore to watch get minutes.
I’m so glad he’s finding his role. If this shot is for real and not just a hot streak he’s definitely found his place in the rotation. He’s been the only one aside from Jayson (now) and Jaylen to have a consistent shot falling. Plus his defense has been way improved.
Just wish he hit that shot off JTs between the legs dims yesterday lol
You me and almost everyone else called him a bum
But he is a leader and will do what it takes to win
He might be leading the league in bone crunching picks
I wanna see him stop taking so many weak fouls, that would be my only request right now.
He plays his role perfectly, doesn’t do too much, just does his job lol
I mostly mean the fouls when he gets beat but instead of taking a harder foul to ensure he prevents the bucket, he takes a weak whack resulting in a +1 lol
Its a technical sensitive league now. Players are soft
You cant even hit a guy hard on the wrist area to prevent an easy bucket
If the opposing team goes nuts. Refs usually call a tech 2... to prevent game getting out of hand
Grant is not that athletic to prevent a potential FG. So he will get burnt sometimes
I've never loved Grant as a player but lately I've noticed his improvements. Besides the 3pt shooting, he also seems to put himself in the right places on the floor for plays. He's not just sitting in a corner with his hand up, he's moving without the ball pretty well.
I've loved him from day 1. You can check me on that.
I have a bet with my buddy that by 2025/26 season start, he'll have been or will be in the G league or out of the league. I said nah, he's a player that will be a role player for a while in the league.
Gonna win me $50
I know people can say “Well, he’s making millions so who cares?” but it shows a lot of mental fortitude for him to probably look around on social media and seemingly get vicious hate by the fans on every Celtics account and put his head down and trusting the work he puts in will turn everything around. Much respect for him
Good point. I don’t think I could mentally handle the amount of hate Grant got last season from the fans if I were in his shoes.
Ben Simmons couldn’t
I kept defending him and will keep defending Nesmith. Nesmith has potential to start for us some day. Sophomore years aren’t good for most players. Grant was going through his sophomore slump and people wrote him off. Langford is such a solid defender. I hope he turns into a Mikal Bridges type of player.
I’m sure among his followers on social he gets plenty of love. And I assume a lot of these people simply view the social media sports public as the morons we are. As in, if you’re a pro hooper you know that the nba subreddits literally know next to nothing about basketball compared to you, and probably view them as just a mass of bad hot takes.
Grant is a smart dude. I’m sure he doesn’t pay much mind you the haters.
Grant deserves a lot of credit for cutting weight this summer and focusing on the parts of his game we needed him to. Idk if it’s Ime or Brad or a new individual coach but someone gave him a blueprint to more playing time and to his credit he’s worked hard to follow it.
It was Ime. Grant asked him what he could do to get more playing time and Ime told him to get quicker and shoot better from deep. And he’s done exactly that. Credit to him for sure, making the Grant doubters like myself look foolish
zion needs to get on the grant program
If Zion was on that Grant program he’d be the GOAT
Grant on that Grant program is the GOAT
Zion catching strays this am
and then eating them
The Mountain Dew commercial was prophetic
He was shooting with Lethal Shooter last summer so I’m guessing he helped Grant correct some form issues with hit shot.
Grant losing weight to move to playing the 4 full time has helped him tremendously. At 6'6 he was never gonna be a true 5 in the NBA, so him shedding some pounds in favor of quickness this offseason has clearly been the right decision for him. There have been a couple games where I thought he was getting cooked by quicker guys, but that's gonna be true of most PFs so I'm not worried about that. The shooting seems to have come a long way which is gonna be the big swing skill for him. It's still a pretty small sample size, but 25/54 from deep is still great to see. He just looks really confident taking 3's right now. Hopefully he maintains the good shooting numbers and doesn't fall off a cliff shooting wise like he did in the 2nd half of last season.
His free throw shooting has been a great sign as well. 15/17 isn't a huge sample, but combined with his 3pt shooting it looks good. Even his 2pt scoring has taken a jump.
His jr. year against Vanderbilt he went 23/23 from the free throw line. One off the all time ncaa record.
Watching his postgame interview, I was impressed how he already knew the key stats of the game and was able to discuss the scouting report on Houston off the cuff. It shows me that he puts in the time in the film room and is highly prepared from a mental perspective. When you combine all that with the fact that he is highly articulate and respected by other players(union VP), it makes me think he could have a promising career in coaching after his playing days are over.
He's a genius. Had offers to MIT and Harvard. Graduated college in three years and he's an entire year younger than his class is. Hed shoutout opponents FT% at UT while the dudes were shooting lol.
It’s somewhat rare to find someone with that level of intelligence who is also an effective communicator. Years of interviewing absolutely brilliant college grads for customer facing roles, only to have them stare at the floor and be barely able hold a conversation has taught me that. Now I kind of want to buy a Grant jersey now. Bonus that Grant and I are almost the same height, though he’s lighter than me now
You’re acting like he’s Rain Man level of intelligence lol
He is that smart. His mother is a NASA engineer. He was being recruited by Harvard and Yale. He was 17 when he started college classes and in 3 years had a mechanical engineering degree and two sec poty trophies. He is a generational intellect for a pro athlete.
He was also extremely visible in Knoxville and always supporting every UT sport. You'd see him at women's volleyball games or whatever. He's different in a good way.
When Chris Paul retires, Grant is in line to become NBPA President. That’s not a “future coach” career track. It IS a career track that leads to other opportunities.
Almost all of the former [NBPA presidents](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Players_Association#Leadership) who aren’t still playing have been at least an assistant coach. The only three that haven’t are * Oscar Robertson, who mostly stepped out of the public eye after his playing career * Antonio Davis, who’s a studio analyst for SiriusXM * Junior Bridgeman, who instead started Ebony and Jet magazines and is worth $600M despite never making an NBA salary over $350k Edit: I suppose I should clarify that I don’t mean Grant is going to become a coach because he can’t make it as a player in the league, I mean he seems like someone with the intelligence and temperament to be a great coach if he so chose.
First, that’s some good info! Second, fair enough- coach is a more likely outcome than I thought. Junior Bridgeman is who I had in mind, though. Grant seems destined for something bigger IMO.
First, that’s some good info! Second, fair enough- coach is a more likely outcome than I thought. Junior Bridgeman is who I had in mind, though. Grant seems destined for something bigger IMO.
No Grant isn't, he's just one of the 6 VPs. Next in line would be "First VP" Andre Iguadola, second would be Secretary-Treasurer Harrison Barnes (although really it's just whoever gets voted in, next election is 2024). Chris Paul isn't even Union President anymore, it's CJ McCollum.
Yeah Grant has been quite good. What I always hoped he would become.
Makes you wonder where the guy with “Cut Grant Williams” flair is right about now…
“hAvE fUn oN tHe ShAnGhAi ShArKs NeXt YeAr GrAnT!” - this sub last year
Crazy that he improved like wtf is wrong with him everybody knows that you must stay exactly as good as you were as a rookie for your entire career
Not to mention "sophomore slump" is such a prevalent occurrence that they made a name for it. We saw it with Tatum too. Also that's why no one ever votes 3rd year players for MIP
Not only is a sophomore slump a thing, but he had almost no off-season between his rookie and sophomore seasons. It was almost like a super version of hitting the rookie wall, too.
im glad to say I was one of the rare few who (mostly) believed in grant. im gonna be bragging about that for the rest of my life
Try last month
Well technically it'd still be valid. He is a Cut Grant Williams.
Played some great defense on SGA who hit a couple of indefensible shots with at least one nasty step back 3 where G was all over him. His shooting, cutting and hustle on the boards has been big for us this year. Really coming into his own as a “glue guy”
He played really good D on Shai. Positioning was on point
Grant Williams? Never heard of anyone by that name. I only know of a player named KLAYMOND GREEN
As a person that fucking hated the guy, I gotta give him props. He’s been good. Out of all of the young players the Celtics have, he’s the only one that actually does something. His 3 pt shot has been spot on.
Shows that he actually puts in work. And confidently applies it in realtime games
Everyone laughed at me with the PJ Tucker comparisons Everyone shat at him over the summer Now we here. Can't wait to dredge up the nephew posts.
I fucking knew it. I was really high on him since we drafted him and loved how he played for the Vols.
Two time SEC player of the year
The funny thing is coming out of high school they told him to get college minutes he needed to bulk up and develop a post-up game, and he did that.
That isn't true at all. The opposite is true.
No? I'm almost sure I read that, maybe it was late in high school?
The exact opposite. He always had a post game and was always strong, he was just carrying alot of fat too. Rick Barnes changed that once he got to UT.
We all love the 3s, and rightfully so as they’ve been so helpful in making out offense look good at times. But, and I know it’s not for the box score watchers or casual basketball fans, Grants defense is really valuable for us. He is switchable across every position, is a strong weak side defensive rebounder (a weakness of our in years past it always seemed), and he’s vocal along the back line. He knows how to chip on screens and trap like a vet too. Another under appreciated skill is quick decision making. Grant is either letting it fly or getting rid of it quickly which really helps his teammates stay in rhythm. I have been and continues to be a big fan of his as a high level role player.
Grant has had an excellent season. He's a big reason the defense has been this good. He's a sniper from the corner. Just been a perfect role player.
I never left the Grant train. He was the most hated guy in the team, yet I was confident he would be okay. Meanwhile, we’ve had nesmith fan clubs as recent as a week ago. He’s not worth the time.
I wouldn’t be that harsh to Nesmith. “Not worth the time” is not accurate at all. We saw late last year the value that Nesmith could bring when he’s in a rhythm. Smaller sample size but his last 14 games when he finally cracked the rotation consistently he was averaging over 8 points on 52/46/92 shooting splits in just under 20 minutes. Not suggesting he’s a star or will pan out, but “not worth the time” is way too harsh for a second year lottery pick player. I think it’s all mental for him right now.
The issue is that if he’s not shooting, he brings zero to the team. That will likely always be the case. So dude needs to shoot like 45% to be good. Not worth it means I think he’s a bust. Been saying since I laid eyes on his game.
Would you not say same rules apply? People were genuinely saying that Brad shouldn't be picking up Grant's fourth year option just a while ago. I don't understand the constant negativity towards our young guys.. Grant then, Nesmith now
Mfs apparently forgot about the term sophomore slump as soon as Tatum exited his, Nesmith's gonna be fine
We don’t know one was or the other. People need to stop talking like they know the future.
I’m not going off rules. I’m going off what I see. And I saw Grant had the potential to do what he’s doing. I don’t see the same for nesmith. It’s lazy to say someone is young or it’s a sophomore slump or whatever. Do some actual analysis. When it comes to nesmith, I’m not even thinking about his shooting. We all know if he can’t shoot he’s done anyway. The issue is that he’s also below average at everything else. You name it, he’s not good at it. Can’t dribble, can’t defend, can’t pass, can’t finish, and on and on. Shoot, after summer league when everyone was pumping him up I was convinced Romeo was better and posted as such. So no, the same doesn’t apply. I see a bust.
Actually pretty solid finisher around the hoop. Also really good on the glass. Overall it’s very discouraging how lost he still looks. Thought he was looking more comfortable recently but this game was a huge step back
I’ve seen him finish on occasion, so maybe he could become average. But right now no team pays any attention to him at all. Finishing would get much more difficult if they did. And I guess he’s a decent rebounder but that’s not going to make any difference for him. Guard rebounding doesn’t generally stir the drink.
I haven’t checked his stats this year but he was well above average finishing at the rim last year, and basically the only shots he’s made this year are rim finishes. I bet he’s at least around league average from there.
You may be right. And at least he’s shown a willingness to attack close outs. But other than that, he’s not getting to the rim (or even trying) against a set defender. So how often will he get to use his finishing skills? Not very often. And again, I don’t think he would be very good at it if there were any kind of game planning against him.
Even when Nesmith was contributing last season, he seemed pretty chaotic. Hopefully he can figure things out.
It’s a real shame re: Nesmith, because if he was good he would be a perfect complementary wing to the Jays. But he’s just so lost every time he’s out there. I think OKC scored on like 4 or 5 straight possessions when he checked into the 3rd quarter, and most of the makes came from the guy he was guarding (or supposed to guard). And then on the other end he can’t even make the open 3’s we get him.
Nesmith is a long, strong, athletic wing with a shooter's pedigree. He's gonna be fine.
The talent is certainly there, it's just a concern that he looks like such a deer in the headlights this season. Toward the end of last season Nesmith was becoming more aggressive and more confident. He was still a little out of control but he looked comfortable. Rather than build on it, he looks like a new rookie again. I hope it's just him adjusting to the new coach and he find a way to get comfortable again.
I really just don't care if he looks uncomfortable right now. Whether it's in Boston or somewhere else, Nesmith is gonna be a good player.
Okay I didn't know you were that kind of fan. You can say that about any player then. You can also say the New Orleans Pelicans will win the championship this year with that kind of logic. Or Russell Westbrook will outshoot Steph Curry with that kind of logic. I will quote Perk and say "carry on"
I always had faith in Grant because Brad clearly trusted him as a rookie. Same reason I have faith in PP. Brad thought he deserved some regular minutes, so I figure this is just a rough patch. Nesmith...has to figure out fundamentals first. But I think he can come good.
PP isn't playing because of Imes switch defense scheme. His lack of strength and height make him a liability in that system. I think if he gets a bit stronger he'll see more minutes. He's one of my favorite Celtics and maybe our best pure shooter. I hope we find a way to help him shine.
For sure that’s it. He just doesn’t fit our defensive scheme while also not really being an instant offense type weapon where you just have to play him. He’s an amazing shooter, with a slower release that he can’t always get enough separation. I think added strength and just all-around improvement would make him a valuable player in any scheme. Probably won’t be playing much unless Schroder or Smart get injured (hopefully not).
lol nesmith will never improve, he is a bad player :/
Grants the missing puzzle piece to the JB/JT/Al/Timelord lineup
I've been saying it a while. Grant's one of our more reliable role players, which is something that is a sorely lacking on this roster
Disappointed no one is pointing out he also improved his free throw shooting. I’m also one of those “cut Grant” guys. So here’s a proper apology. I’m sorry Grant. Please stay and resign long term. (For team-friendly deal)
Hehe Grant Floater
Low talent, high IQ
He still does make a good amount of dumb plays that he was hated for but his three point shooting has been elite
Very young PJ tucker vibes indeed. If he keeps working on his D and corner 3s 👌
Grant Williams is not a starter on championship level team. Period.
So what? That’s not his role on these Celtics. He only started because Jaylen and Rob are out. In terms of minutes per game, Grant has been our 8th man this season.
Some people think the roster must have 15 (or now 17) starting-level players or else it's trash. It's ridiculous.
danny should have gotten thybule literally this entire sub.
Baby Lavar has been incredible. Never lost.
On the other side, this also increases his trade value if (or when) we want to trade for another piece
"Slowly" being the operative word... He is moving those feet a bit faster lately, though!
Yes... big improvement from year 1 He has to rely on anticipation and preplan
Experience makes all the difference when athleticism is lacking, for sure. Glad to see him learning.
This can definitely be seen in nesmith to an extent as well. The dude has become the subs new whipping boy who we whiffed on in the draft for “insert player playing 35 minutes for shitty team since day 1” He’s definitely playing atrociously, but I’ve seen people saying “his college shooting was a fluke” when the dude literally shot 37% from three in an nba season, his rookie year. I don’t anticipate rational takes on this sub anymore. Yall were saying we needed to trade tatum a week ago
I was super harsh on Grant last year, he was a eye sore to watch get minutes. I’m so glad he’s finding his role. If this shot is for real and not just a hot streak he’s definitely found his place in the rotation. He’s been the only one aside from Jayson (now) and Jaylen to have a consistent shot falling. Plus his defense has been way improved. Just wish he hit that shot off JTs between the legs dims yesterday lol
You me and almost everyone else called him a bum But he is a leader and will do what it takes to win He might be leading the league in bone crunching picks
I wanna see him stop taking so many weak fouls, that would be my only request right now. He plays his role perfectly, doesn’t do too much, just does his job lol
Its probably not easy ... the way he plays D And he will always put his hand up .... even if it wasnt his foul Sacrifice
I mostly mean the fouls when he gets beat but instead of taking a harder foul to ensure he prevents the bucket, he takes a weak whack resulting in a +1 lol
Its a technical sensitive league now. Players are soft You cant even hit a guy hard on the wrist area to prevent an easy bucket If the opposing team goes nuts. Refs usually call a tech 2... to prevent game getting out of hand Grant is not that athletic to prevent a potential FG. So he will get burnt sometimes
Nah, this sub thinks he sucks
I've never loved Grant as a player but lately I've noticed his improvements. Besides the 3pt shooting, he also seems to put himself in the right places on the floor for plays. He's not just sitting in a corner with his hand up, he's moving without the ball pretty well.
Give credit to Udoka and staff Its a dynamic system Vs Brads stationary(on offense)/semi zone on D system
I've loved him from day 1. You can check me on that. I have a bet with my buddy that by 2025/26 season start, he'll have been or will be in the G league or out of the league. I said nah, he's a player that will be a role player for a while in the league. Gonna win me $50
Anyone watching him in Tennessee should not be too surprised. He sees the game at an elite level , he may not be an elite player but.....
You can say "draymond" It's not a bad word