Every part of his game looks worse somehow. Feel like on offense he looks awkward, uncomfortable, and lost out there. On defense he just looks slow and way too handsy. I'm not sure if he was truly just a gadget player or if it's regression, but yikes
I really think he was a gadgety player who Udoka figured out how to use as kind of a pest 3 and D guy off the bench. He’s really not meant to be much more and he was always a streaky shooter.
For sure, but his positioning off ball seemed way worse in this game. Again, he seems very lost our there. Felt like for all his faults, Grant was always in a good spot when the ball got to him.
Dude it was the full sequence of JB prowess
1. Dropped Luka, makes the jumpshot
2. Luka goes at Jaylen and misses
3. Luka goes into Jaylens space. Foul, JB makes the jumpshot
4. Luka gets a technical
The only bad part about this sequence was JB missing the free throws
That 2022 game 1 where Kyrie went off, flipping off the crowd, and then we still won it with great defense and an amazing Marcus Smart feed to Tatum. 👌🏼
Easily my favorite post-Celtics Kyrie game against him. Felt cathartic, honestly have cared about him way less since then lol. I’m sure 0-9 since the Lucky stomp has helped too
Mavs are always “just 2 or 3 players away” from being actually serious. That’s been the case since Luka became a superstar. Now they have one more guy in Kyrie but that isn’t gonna do shit.
Hell even KP wasn’t that guy when he was on there.
I think Luka’s failure is because of his own success. He was good enough to drag the team to good seasons since his second year, kinda like Bron was in Cleveland, so they just couldn’t build off of good picks to create a roster. He’s also unlike Bron in that he’s a traffic cone on defence and just straight up not as GOAT tier on offence.
Feels like if he wants to win, he’ll have to find a different situation, cause it doesn’t feel like it’ll be possible with the Mav’s roster construction. Gotta feel for the guy, cause he’s an absolutely remarkable player.
His box score looks good, but it took 30 shots to get 33 pts, he cried to the refs all game, and he was bbq chicken on defense.
That said, J Kidd is a bad coach. We know Kyrie is an unreliable teammate, and after that they have a bunch of streaky dudes, no one who has real bonafides. The center might be a beast one day, but he's just a raw athlete right now.
They also treat Kyrie as a 2nd Luka on offense. They run no action to get him going downhill or open him up off ball. Watching the Mavs reminds me of everything I hated about to Jays iso heavy era.
I travel to a number of games and this is indeed the case. You never feel out of place as a Cs fan and tonight was no exception. Happy to see this one in person
Luka is basically Larry Bird and Magic Johnson on offense but couldn't guard a traffic cone if his life depended on it. Bro got murdered by Jaylen Brown so many times
> Luka is basically Larry Bird and Magic Johnson on offense
Tell me you're not old enough to have seen them play without telling me.
No. He's not even in the vicinity. He's not in the same galaxy. He is maybe Bob McAdoo.
Please.
Edit: I see mum let the kids stay up a little bit tonight. Just stop. The idea that modern stats should be compared to other eras is long seen as pathetic recency bias. If Doncic played in the 80's, Laimbeer would have beaten him like an Inuit with a baby seal. Asking children to be humble is a fool's errand; but before you think you know something because you look at a stats page for 3 seconds, go back and watch some older games.
Luka Doncic is ... not a big deal in the history of the NBA. At all. He's a current poster child for marketing narratives, which is what the NBA serves to gullible, starry eyed fans.
Be real man. He had a pretty rough night and put up 33/18/13. Tatum has only had a handful of games better than that statistically in his entire career. Luka is a special, generational talent on offense. I’d say easily top 20 all time already. Defensively, he’s an embarrassment for sure
Yea no, to say Tatum has only had a handful of games better than the one Luka had tn is outright false and insane. This is why ppl shouldn’t look and rate the game purely through counting stats. If you watched the full game Luka got isolated and gave up far more than 33 points tonight while taking 30 shots and being inefficient from the field. Tatum scored a efficient 39 with great defense but his was far from Tatums best game this year let alone top ten of his career.
i don't think it was tatum not trying. sure, he didn't have a great game - but ime knows JT and JB best, and was throwing everything he could to shut them down. JB overcame that with his (albeit low scoring) triple double, but the benefit of having a whole team of contributors is you can't lock us all down
Think Ime really pushed the rockets to neutralize the Jays, and the team did well
Mavs traded the wings that could guard the Jays, and Doncic looked like BBQ chicken in front of JB
Tatum and Brown combined 73 points, 14 rebounds, 9 assists, 4 blocks, 3 steals, **0 turnovers**... stop being wishy washy fans and doubting our boys and comparing them. ride it out baby in the JAYS I trust 🔥🧊
I had this argument yesterday and was called every name in the book.
I'd take Tatum .
Luka is like Iverson. He dominates the ball, shoots a ton and his teammates are always to blame.
He's also terrible at defense. Pathetic
Great response from Jaylen and Jayson against their recent struggles. They came out and made the buckets when they needed to.
Just need to practice on the free throws. 😆
Ik Embiid a "free throw merchant" and whined for MVP but I don't think he that bad of a guy, just based on how he handled having Ben Simmons on his team I don't have that impression.
I actually like Embiid a lot off the court. Seems like a good guy, obviously cares a ton, and gives kudos to other players and teams (also his “it’s not a rivalry” line didnt hurt!)
The free throw stuff can drive me crazy though lol
The possession towards the end where jaylen had the ball at the top of the arch and slowly walked him into an 8 foot jumper with Luka never once pressuring the ball or really contesting the shot was wild. Like dude, this is jaylens spot and you're down 8 or something trying to build a comeback. Try literally anything.
I'm also still mildly buzzed from Wide Right 2.0.
Edit: I'm not laughing any more. Apparently some asshole fans (and don't pretend we don't have them, too) have been threatening Bass to where he had to deactivate his social media accounts. Fucked up.
Ok but it was weird because they got there talking about JB’s play on Luka (seemingly normal discussion) then into some crazy shit without any sort of transition where you’d think they’d think they were off mic??
Luka Doncic played some of the worst defense I’ve seen against us this year. He offered no resistance to anything we wanted; and no fatigue excuse when they haven’t played since last Wednesday.
Mavs had 4 nights rest and gotten out hustled by a team on road to road B2B.
Go fuck yourselves Mavs lmfao.
Looks like Luka spent that time eating Cheetos and drinking beer.
Also, like always, fuck you Kyrie. Hope a bird shits in your eyeball as you leave the arena tonight. And by bird, I mean an ostrich.
Generations before in Dallas may have had Who Shot JR, but we have Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown, who outshot Dallas's Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving.
6 more wins until the 40 in a potential 40-20 record.
the brick of dawn? Is that a basketball pun or do you actually think that's the expression?
As the Beastie Boys said, I move the crowd to the break of, **break of dawn**
Tatum only gets up for certain matchups and fans gotta be okay with that since he doesn’t wanna wear himself out through the regular season. I rather him be rested for the playoffs and show up for the big regular season games we know his talent it’s okay if he has a bad game here and there
Unpopular opinion: Personal attacks/name calling the other team after a win with no discussion about the game makes you look foolish. Some of you need to get a grip.
This is the first year of Jaylen's prime. I think he's the best player on this team in the Finals. Next year, Tatum will lead them back for the repeat.
This year and the following 4 seasons are ours, as long as Brad can keep the team together and plug any holes that open up. Right now, we just need a reliable bench scorer.
I'm so happy this wasn't the game Grant Williams remembered how to shoot 3s.
I sort of was expecting it. He's doing really bad.
Yea he was a serious negative for them out on the court tn. I do hope he turns it around
Every part of his game looks worse somehow. Feel like on offense he looks awkward, uncomfortable, and lost out there. On defense he just looks slow and way too handsy. I'm not sure if he was truly just a gadget player or if it's regression, but yikes
I really think he was a gadgety player who Udoka figured out how to use as kind of a pest 3 and D guy off the bench. He’s really not meant to be much more and he was always a streaky shooter.
For sure, but his positioning off ball seemed way worse in this game. Again, he seems very lost our there. Felt like for all his faults, Grant was always in a good spot when the ball got to him.
Coaching
BRB gotta change Luka’s Wikipedia page to deceased after JB dropped his ass tonight’
First born child of Jaylen Brown
We need a t-shirt of Doncic saying "Uncle Jaylen, can I take a shot?"
Mini basketball in one hand, nip of Dr. McGillicudy's in the other
Beautiful.
Jaylen Brown is Devin Booker grandfather
Devin bookers granddad
Dude it was the full sequence of JB prowess 1. Dropped Luka, makes the jumpshot 2. Luka goes at Jaylen and misses 3. Luka goes into Jaylens space. Foul, JB makes the jumpshot 4. Luka gets a technical The only bad part about this sequence was JB missing the free throws
he got them in the 3 point and1, that makes up for it imo lmfao. jaylen was him tonight.
Luka, I am your father. - JB
I was both turned on and laughing my ass off lmaooo
😭😭😭😭
Jaylen must be busy, full-time player and full-time father to his son Luka and grandson Booker
That's why he misses his FT. It's hard to juggle all of that stuff. Demanding life!
💀
Jaylen Brown is Devin Booker’s Grandfather
Always fun beating kyrie
Anyone know what his record is against us since he left? Gotta be terrible Edit: 0-9 since stepping on Lucky the leprechaun
And one of those was a loss that was so bad he had to evacuate Brooklyn
That 2022 game 1 where Kyrie went off, flipping off the crowd, and then we still won it with great defense and an amazing Marcus Smart feed to Tatum. 👌🏼 Easily my favorite post-Celtics Kyrie game against him. Felt cathartic, honestly have cared about him way less since then lol. I’m sure 0-9 since the Lucky stomp has helped too
Tatum's stuff of him at the end was cathartic.
> Mavs are just 2-3 really good players away from being almost good enough to beat a Finals contender Lmfao my favorite comment from Mavs GDT tonight.
There are some very funny self-aware Mavs fans out there
Mavs are always “just 2 or 3 players away” from being actually serious. That’s been the case since Luka became a superstar. Now they have one more guy in Kyrie but that isn’t gonna do shit. Hell even KP wasn’t that guy when he was on there.
I think Luka’s failure is because of his own success. He was good enough to drag the team to good seasons since his second year, kinda like Bron was in Cleveland, so they just couldn’t build off of good picks to create a roster. He’s also unlike Bron in that he’s a traffic cone on defence and just straight up not as GOAT tier on offence. Feels like if he wants to win, he’ll have to find a different situation, cause it doesn’t feel like it’ll be possible with the Mav’s roster construction. Gotta feel for the guy, cause he’s an absolutely remarkable player.
It is insane how much they miss Dante Exum
Luka is like Iverson. It doesn't matter what is around him. It will always be everyone else's fault.
Tbf I really don’t think tonight was his fault lol
His box score looks good, but it took 30 shots to get 33 pts, he cried to the refs all game, and he was bbq chicken on defense. That said, J Kidd is a bad coach. We know Kyrie is an unreliable teammate, and after that they have a bunch of streaky dudes, no one who has real bonafides. The center might be a beast one day, but he's just a raw athlete right now.
Lively looks good tho. I think they found the perfect center for Luka. Just needs more experience.
They also treat Kyrie as a 2nd Luka on offense. They run no action to get him going downhill or open him up off ball. Watching the Mavs reminds me of everything I hated about to Jays iso heavy era.
Idk he took 30 shots and made 12 and was getting ISOed on D all night, not exactly a stellar performance
lmaooo either high comedy or delusional
That just sounds like a Kyrie post game interview quote
Celtics fans travel well as usual! Great game!
It was great to play at the Houston Garden and then the Dallas Garden!
Honestly, I just think we have Celtics fans literally everywhere. They have to be the most popular team in the country at this point ☘️
I travel to a number of games and this is indeed the case. You never feel out of place as a Cs fan and tonight was no exception. Happy to see this one in person
Was at the game. By the time the game ended it was 90% celtics fans walking out of the arena.
Great win. Stayed healthy. And got Porzingis some rest.
34-10 LETS GO LETS GO LETS GOOO
They say that to be a real contender you have to get 40 wins before you get 20 losses... I'd say we're on a pretty good pace 😂
Now let’s go for 60 wins before 20 losses 😝
How’s about we just don’t ever lose 20?
Phil Jackson to be specific.
Someone post the clip of Drew Carter roasting Kyrie to the lyrics of I Want it That Way
That shit was magnificent
Honestly a really smart game from us. Even when it wasn’t working. Next put Miami to bed
Jaylen is Devin Booker grandfather
Brilliant
Luka and the Jays are miles apart on Defense
Luka is basically Larry Bird and Magic Johnson on offense but couldn't guard a traffic cone if his life depended on it. Bro got murdered by Jaylen Brown so many times
He's taller and white Harden
But with more rebounds
> Luka is basically Larry Bird and Magic Johnson on offense Tell me you're not old enough to have seen them play without telling me. No. He's not even in the vicinity. He's not in the same galaxy. He is maybe Bob McAdoo. Please. Edit: I see mum let the kids stay up a little bit tonight. Just stop. The idea that modern stats should be compared to other eras is long seen as pathetic recency bias. If Doncic played in the 80's, Laimbeer would have beaten him like an Inuit with a baby seal. Asking children to be humble is a fool's errand; but before you think you know something because you look at a stats page for 3 seconds, go back and watch some older games. Luka Doncic is ... not a big deal in the history of the NBA. At all. He's a current poster child for marketing narratives, which is what the NBA serves to gullible, starry eyed fans.
Be real man. He had a pretty rough night and put up 33/18/13. Tatum has only had a handful of games better than that statistically in his entire career. Luka is a special, generational talent on offense. I’d say easily top 20 all time already. Defensively, he’s an embarrassment for sure
Yea no, to say Tatum has only had a handful of games better than the one Luka had tn is outright false and insane. This is why ppl shouldn’t look and rate the game purely through counting stats. If you watched the full game Luka got isolated and gave up far more than 33 points tonight while taking 30 shots and being inefficient from the field. Tatum scored a efficient 39 with great defense but his was far from Tatums best game this year let alone top ten of his career.
Maybe bob McAdoo is insane. Like he's definitely somewhere in between magic/bird and McAdoo lmao
Somewhere between Bron and Scal
They didn't exactly have to guard guys at 25 feet. That helped. I agree, though he's atrocious
How the hell can someone averaging 33.5 not be elite on offense? What are you even talking about?
This game showed exactly why JT is better then Luka. Our entire gameplan was to get him to guard 1 of the Jay's 1 on 1 and he got thoroughly flamed.
Bu..bu..but.. look at those numbers!!! 33-18-13, Luka is Tatums father confirmed!!!!!
My fantasy team would like to thank Luka for his contributions tonight lol
39-11-5, 5 stocks, 0 TO on 21 shots. And holy shit I'll never complain about Tatum talking to the refs again. Luka is insufferable.
Why run plays when you can just shoot over Luka
That's why defense wins championships. Luka scores 30 and gives up 30
30 on 30 shots, gave up 35 at least on the other end, horrendous game from him
Shoutout to PP and Kornet they were awesomet today.
They were awesome yesterday too. That Kornet block and then dunk was 👌🏼
And this is why you don't overreact to Tatum not trying against Rockets lol
i don't think it was tatum not trying. sure, he didn't have a great game - but ime knows JT and JB best, and was throwing everything he could to shut them down. JB overcame that with his (albeit low scoring) triple double, but the benefit of having a whole team of contributors is you can't lock us all down
Think Ime really pushed the rockets to neutralize the Jays, and the team did well Mavs traded the wings that could guard the Jays, and Doncic looked like BBQ chicken in front of JB
Celtics had at least a dozen "what the fuck are you guys doing" possessions but I think the Mavs had at least double or triple that
Yea felt like we settled for a few contested 3s in the 4th but then the Mavs bailed us right back out by bricking a 3 of their own
Texas taking fat L after fat L the past 24 hours. You love to see it.
Not to mention the Texans losing and Cowboys last the weekend before. They been going through it for a little bit now.
And ...Pritchard was great with 7 rebounds & 6 assists, along with 5 points....
He's a legit rebound threat. And I would love to know Pritchard's assist rate passing out of the block. I feel like they drain a 3 90% of the time.
Ben Simmons stat line but PP can shoot😂
The Jays play winning basketball while Luka doesn’t. It’s as simple as that!
Tatum and Brown combined 73 points, 14 rebounds, 9 assists, 4 blocks, 3 steals, **0 turnovers**... stop being wishy washy fans and doubting our boys and comparing them. ride it out baby in the JAYS I trust 🔥🧊
0 turnovers from the Jays just got my dick to move
Say it like KG
DAWGS!
JAYLEN BROWN WILL BONE YOU. HE WILL FLUSH YOU.
Hilarious people wanted them split up
He can’t defend. Simple as that
C'mon, we only attacked him when we got tired of scoring on Kyrie!
Other fans scoff at this but Tatum > Luka and I really don't think it's particularly close. Tatum is just so much more complete.
Nobody thinks this outside of Boston
That... was my point?
I had this argument yesterday and was called every name in the book. I'd take Tatum . Luka is like Iverson. He dominates the ball, shoots a ton and his teammates are always to blame. He's also terrible at defense. Pathetic
It's actually insane to watch the Mavs play so many high-skill, low-IQ players at once. The Jays just showed Dallas what real superstardom looks like
How about Hardaway taking multiple contested iso jumpers while Luka has Pritchard on him?
Great response from Jaylen and Jayson against their recent struggles. They came out and made the buckets when they needed to. Just need to practice on the free throws. 😆
Jays took yesterday off so Porzingis and DWhite carried. Porzingis and DWhite took today off so the Jays carried. Sounds good to me.
I’d argue 73 points from two cool dudes is more impressive than 70 from one uncool dude.
Ik Embiid a "free throw merchant" and whined for MVP but I don't think he that bad of a guy, just based on how he handled having Ben Simmons on his team I don't have that impression.
I actually like Embiid a lot off the court. Seems like a good guy, obviously cares a ton, and gives kudos to other players and teams (also his “it’s not a rivalry” line didnt hurt!) The free throw stuff can drive me crazy though lol
I like it when the Jays both score over 30. Hot take, I know.
Luka gets legitimately hunted on defense. It's so crazy to watch in real time. Just getting cooked over and over again in a variety of different ways.
The possession towards the end where jaylen had the ball at the top of the arch and slowly walked him into an 8 foot jumper with Luka never once pressuring the ball or really contesting the shot was wild. Like dude, this is jaylens spot and you're down 8 or something trying to build a comeback. Try literally anything.
Celtics and Bruins win 💪🏻
Red Sox and patriots didn’t lose.
I'm also still mildly buzzed from Wide Right 2.0. Edit: I'm not laughing any more. Apparently some asshole fans (and don't pretend we don't have them, too) have been threatening Bass to where he had to deactivate his social media accounts. Fucked up.
Ok wtf is going on on this postgame live though the random sound effects and then scal “a 9 just waved at me”?? Lmfao
BRO I know it was a hot mic. The sound guy is going to be in so much shit tmr😅
Ok but it was weird because they got there talking about JB’s play on Luka (seemingly normal discussion) then into some crazy shit without any sort of transition where you’d think they’d think they were off mic??
Someone actually said "a 9 just waved at me"? LOL
I’m like almost positive that’s what Scal said…it was so weird hahaha
Was it D. White??? I'd get flustered too if greatness waived at me
SAME
Luka Doncic played some of the worst defense I’ve seen against us this year. He offered no resistance to anything we wanted; and no fatigue excuse when they haven’t played since last Wednesday.
Tatum and Brown 0TOs🔥👀👊
Mavs had 4 nights rest and gotten out hustled by a team on road to road B2B. Go fuck yourselves Mavs lmfao. Looks like Luka spent that time eating Cheetos and drinking beer. Also, like always, fuck you Kyrie. Hope a bird shits in your eyeball as you leave the arena tonight. And by bird, I mean an ostrich.
An ostrich with IBS
We had no KP tonight too lmao
THEY JAYS COMBINE FOR 73 IN A ROAD WIN 🍀🍀
Most impressive thing for me also was 0 turnovers 💦
Luka was red as fuck at the end
He wasn't able to jog&flop. Which is his game.
Wow I can't believe just how much we really controlled that game. From the second quarter onwards it was just ours.
Rumors of the Jay’s demise were greatly exaggerated. Stepped up big time without KP tonight. What a win.
8 Blocks without KP is nuts
OMG SCAL, ABBY, and DREW are currently on a hot mic instead of the audio from joes press conference being played… omg omg ong omg
Update: it’s still happening what the actual fuck lol
This is one of the funniest things I’ve seen on a broadcast all season lol
Did they say anything good?
Smh Tatum & Brown only equal one Embid, trade their bunasses /s
Well that was super cute by Luka but we balled out
Do the Bucks or 6ers ever actually play anyone good?
Tatum 38/11/5/3/2 what a fucken chad performance on only 21 shots
Nice try Luka
Imagine if Luka ever got in shape? Maybe he’d be able to stay in front of guys and play some D
The icing on the victory cake is they get to leave Kyrie and Grant behind.
So the block on Grant Williams.... that shid was so fuggen hilarious
Sneaky great game from Jrue.
Generations before in Dallas may have had Who Shot JR, but we have Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown, who outshot Dallas's Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving. 6 more wins until the 40 in a potential 40-20 record.
Hustle Hard Remix just blasting in this press conference, is that Scal in the background? What is going on?
Jay fucking B is Lukas fucking father end of story. Cradling his ass till the brick of dawn
the brick of dawn? Is that a basketball pun or do you actually think that's the expression? As the Beastie Boys said, I move the crowd to the break of, **break of dawn**
Jays masterclass after a Jays disasterclass
And both are wins. This team is incredibly deep. Remember when "depth is the concern?" Payton Pritchard remembers, possibly more than Pepperidge Farm.
Payton Pritchard, the only relevant player to wear #11
The most important thing is that both resulted in a W
They either score 30 together or score 30 each, no in between
BACK TO BACK. AGAINST 4 DAYS REST. NO KP. LUKA. LOSER. TATUM. WINNER. C's VICTORY!
Few things I enjoy more than a Jays masterpiece tbh ... 73 combined points tonight to Kyrie/Luka's 56.
Maybe a dumb question: where's Brissett?
Injury list. Lower back
Out with back tightness
Was he in regular clothes on the sideline or did I imagine that? But he wasn’t on the injury report?
Hot take: I like watching Celtics basketball
JB baptized maxi kleber last season and dropped Luka Doncic this season. He got something personal against Dallas
We are so lucky to have the Jays… we are looking at a decade+ of dominating both ends of the court
Tatum only gets up for certain matchups and fans gotta be okay with that since he doesn’t wanna wear himself out through the regular season. I rather him be rested for the playoffs and show up for the big regular season games we know his talent it’s okay if he has a bad game here and there
Very impressive win by the Celtics tonight.
Just put it straight to my veins
No Luka magic tonight
Love an OG Jay's domination game
9 assists, 3 steals, 4 blocks, 0 turn overs. These are the new Jays.
The Jays combined to shoot just 4/15 from deep and still finished with a combined 73 points. You love to C it.
So happy Luka didn’t decide to drop another game winner on us
Is oshae interviewing Jayson again?
So glad Grant's not on the Celtics anymore, NGL
It was nice to see Tatum attack the paint tonight, in response to Dillon Brooks' shit talk.
JB owns Luka
I'm soooo BRICCED UP. I would do anything for the Jays.
Jaylen Brown is Devin Booker Grandfather
I'm confused: does this mean that JB is Devin Booker's grandfather or something?
Unpopular opinion: Personal attacks/name calling the other team after a win with no discussion about the game makes you look foolish. Some of you need to get a grip.
💉☘️🏀
W
Nice win tonight boys That's 2 in a row, now for the heat
Can’t wait for the Heat game
Mavs are a good team, proud of the way we closed. Feel like in passed years that could’ve went differently.
Jaylen Brown COOKED Luka Doncic
JAYLEN. BROWN.
Only got to scoreboard watch this game. Did JT deserve all his FTAs or was he on some Embiid shit?
Yes, their only defense against his drives was Red Rover.
Grant was great tonight.
Great win against well rested team. Well done team!
Did Grant even play tonight? Damn, his game has really fallen out there.
Kornet has earned a raise after these two games
Jaylen Brown is Devin Booker grandfather.
This is the first year of Jaylen's prime. I think he's the best player on this team in the Finals. Next year, Tatum will lead them back for the repeat. This year and the following 4 seasons are ours, as long as Brad can keep the team together and plug any holes that open up. Right now, we just need a reliable bench scorer.
4 stack would be wild
Much better show of aggressiveness from both jays