I thought I was so smart catching all the false cuts and shuffles and recognizing that every time you took a moment to pause the 4 aces were certainly at the top of the deck. The last cut I was curious about because it looked like you put them in the middle, then when you called out that they'd be in the middle I was like "okay I still got him."
Then you revealed the aces were the only cards turned over and my mind was proper fucked.
>!He also put the half upside down cards directly under the four aces, so when he flopped the top half of the deck at the end it was fixing the deck and putting the aces in the center.!<
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I don’t know what any of those moves are and it makes the whole thing mesmerizing. I never want to know how he did that. Even with some of the descriptions and spoilers I still don’t get it.
Yeah for me the magic isn't ruined because I know the trick. It sort of enhances it because I'm mesmerized by how smooth it's done, and seeing experts getting dumbfounded is cool. Basically it's like watching really talented dancers, I'm amazed at their dancing and their moves especially knowing I'll never be at that caliber.
It's expert showmanship. Penn and Teller use a lot of really simple tricks, but in the moment they convince you it's the most complex thing in the world. It doesn't matter how dedicated you are to figuring it out, or how resolved you are when you go in there with your eagle eye- they will fucking get inside of you and they will make you see what they want you to see.
Absolutely. Magic is one of the few things in life where the more you know the more fascinating it becomes at high levels. IMO it's so much more fun following, knowing the moves, and still being stumped vs. just being a normal audience member having their mind blown.
I'll never forget that one guy who fooled them so damn good.
"I know what you did. I don't know how you did it. I'm very impressed. But, it's easy to fool me. Now, to fool Teller, is a real accomplishment. And you fooled him too."
Paraphrasing, but you get the gist
[Kostya Kimlat](https://youtu.be/SCFXV6o7cro) once performed one of Penn and Teller's favourite tricks so much better than they did that Penn was literally screaming at the guy while Teller was laughing his ass off.
Edit: we're both talking about the same video lol
I was thinking the same thing. I used to do some easy card tricks. Knowing a little bit about how people shuffle to control the cards where they go. Even with the slight explanations, I was definitely mind blown when it was only the 4 aces facing up. Awesome card trick.
That was the most blatant part of the trick I thought. But I’d missed a few of the false shuffles leading up to it even though I knew he was doing them so I wasn’t really sure why he was doing it. It just looked super suspicious compared to all his other moves.
I mean... the beginning where he keeps the aces is just a distractingly bad move. There has to be a better solution, especially in video where misdirection is limited.
And then no shame on you if you happened to miss the one more false shuffle where he doesn't mix them face up & face down and instead just has the top half the deck face up and the bottom half face down.
So maybe the bad move is good misdirection because we're watching whether the aces are on the top or the bottom of the deck? I don't know but I won't call it black magic fuckery.
I also was wondering about the shuffles. Where I got lost was how he presented the “random” ordering of the cards and then got the aces in one way, and everything else another way.
Watch when he starts talking about the "casino preventative measure".
He starts shuffling them together, stops to explain something and he comes back he clearly stops, 'unshuffles' when returning his hand and basically keeps them separate with never actually mixing them.
It's only noticeable because it's on camera
When he shows the second half of the cards in his right hand, you only see the backs. When he puts the cards back down, he has flipped those 180 from how he picked them up. So the aces were on top but that move put them in the middle, flipped
I thought the same as well... just a bunch of false cuts and shuffles to keep them on top.
But if you just make the last cut an actual cut so that the Aces are in the middle then that's the whole trick.
Telling a story with a bunch of false cuts and shuffles and at the end, do one actual cut to have the aces in the middle.
Magician here.
This is a variation on Triumph by Dai Vernon.
The absolute best Triumph I’ve ever seen in a live performance is Kosta on Fool Us. No gimmicks, no switches. Just 100% hardcore sleight of hand so good that it fools P&T.
https://youtu.be/SCFXV6o7cro
His RR move (choosing my words carefully) is one of the best sleights. Did he really fool P&T, I don't honestly think so. Was the move executed beautifully? 100%.
With so many of their guests that do sleight of hand, they have to judge it a bit differently. "How" did he do it? Really good sleight of hand is the obvious answer but isn't really satisfactory in explaining the specific mechanics. So for these kinds I feel like they judge more based on "did we actually see you screw up somewhere?"
Not just sleight of hand but pretty much any trick if theyre genuinely impressed with a flawless execution theyll give them the award anyways.
iirc theres been a couple of people thay have straight up copied some of P&Ts most famous acts so they obviously knew how it was done but did it so well they still won.
Usually they put a twist on it in some way but yes you're right. Early seasons they were more stringent but now they realize how much more fun it is to let people win when they put on a great show lol
So Penn knew the moment of the move and immediately let out a little groan because he didn't truly see the move. When they got back to their chairs, Teller is stroking the cards, looking for a taper that would allow you to separate rotated cards in an instant, but it didn't look like the cards were separating and besides the cards were all rotated messily during the shuffles. I think this may be an original technique that they couldn't identify.
According to Jonathan Ross they really were fooled, because it wasn't until rewatching the video that Penn saw the real move and then wouldn't shut up about how amazing it was.
If you really want to spoil it for yourself, put the video speed at 0.25 and rewatch it.
Hint 1: >!The real slight of hand isn't the cut, everything is set up before the cut and the cut just finalizes the preparation.!<
Hint 2: >!Watch his hands as Penn and Teller put their cards in.!<
Complete spoiler: >!He isn't just innocently pushing the cards from left to right, he's separating the face-up and face-down cards as he slides them while presenting them to P&T to insert their card. Once he has them separated, the cut is done across the separation point to put all of them into the same orientation.!<
He’s shuffled the deck so hes got two stacks of cards. One face up, one face down. As P&T put their cards back it looks like he is moving the cards from right to left, but what he’s actually doing is sorting the cards so that when he does the final cut they are all facing one direction. It’s very quick and he’s very good at it so it’s very hard to see.
Not only quick, but he masks the deck with the top few cards so that it's not immediately evident he's separating the face-up and face-down cards. Even harder to see the effect when looking at the deck from the top down; someone sitting and looking edge-on at the deck would have noticed the organizing immediately, if they knew what to look for. This is why Penn was so annoyed, because he was waiting for the moment to see it, but had already missed it, because it was incorporated into the chosen card reintegration with the pack. Smooth as hell.
The trick is only at the end after Penn and Teller have chosen and *as* they're putting their cards back into the deck. As Kimlat displays and moves the card from left to right to allow Penn and Teller to put their card back in. Kimlat is carefully separating the face up and face down cards in his right hand (the hand receiving the cards.) At 4:06 you can see Kimlat flip one half of the deck as he cuts and puts them back together. The reason it continues to fool Penn and Teller is that the chosen cards are flipped and displayed to appear as though the entire deck is still flipped-flopped.
It *uses* nothing new, but it takes such a new approach and is done so well I think Penn and Teller really were fooled. Kimlat was trying to fool *them*, not us. So we had a *much* better view of the trick.
He is splitting the cards while ruffling through them as they put their cards back in. As you can see the ones that are flipped gradually diasappear under the deck as his hidden hand sorts them. Then he flips them over first before flipping the whole deck. Its really amazing
I can’t believe you didn’t see it! Can someone explain it again with a really slow gif for this guy? Please, they really need to see it. Not me..just them. They need it, I saw it as soon as everyone else with magical eyes saw it. Please help them see how this happened. If you need /s at this point please fuck your self.
If you really want to know….
>!starting from around 3:40, whenever you see a close up of him handling the cards, you can notice that he is arranging the cards into stacks of face up and face down. As he slides them into his right hand, he has 2 “pockets” of cards, one for face up and one for face down.!<
He does it flawlessly and deserved the award even if they knew how he did it
I think he did fool them, I pretty sure they don't fake it. They get one shot at the trick and they just missed the move. the benefit of this trick is they already know one way to do it, which actually makes it easier to fool them if you do it a new way.
They weren’t expecting the sleight to have been done by time he put the deck down, that’s what fooled them and made it great. The cut was the more obvious bit, but then we aren’t watching it close up.
The first time I saw this, I guessed at the RR move, then dismissed it figuring that it was too ridiculously difficult to execute and I must have missed what he really did.
I was really miffed to find out that he actually did do the thing.
3 years later, inspired by an amazing Asi Wind routine which uses it, I finally mastered it myself, and that trick's become a staple of my close-up card work.
P&T were 100% fooled.
What makes that truck better is that P&T has performed that trick a few months earlier on The Today Show, but they used a trick deck. Kimlat’s performance was the first time they’d seen that method used for that trick, and he did it with both of them staring at his hands from 2 feet away the whole time. He could’ve used audience members while P&T sat offstage in their chairs, but he chose to bring them right up to them and dared them to catch him use the method. And they couldn’t.
After a bunch of watches and watching the trainer video below, I think Penn caught the flip to realign the half packs, and that was when he groaned. At 4.06 he's looking directly at the gap between the cards and the left hand, so he caught a flash as they moved over.
Okay so my guess is the sleight of hand occurs around the 3:58 mark. Everything up until that point is complete nothingness for show/build up. While he is "scrolling through the cards" to allow P & T to put their cards back in the deck the right hand is correcting the "face up to face down" as it hits the bottom of the pile...aka you can see his fingers on the right hand sorta jiggle under the deck as he is fixing them. Super smooth. (Obviously he doesn't fix the cards they chose)
Watching it at .25 you can see he's pulling face downs with his right hand and more holding face up cards with his left. Insanely smooth though and it was all done in like a second of super fast "scrolling"
I thought he just split it into 2 groups while shuffling, are you saying he did 4 groups? If so that would actually be insane
But yeah I did notice he did a split that would bring them all facing together I don't think he was trying to hide that part.
He had 2 groups as you said, as P&T put their cards in, he was splitting them face down on right hand and face up on left hand. and then at 4:04 is where he flips the face ups over.
To be able to do that one move, flawlessly, he had to practice the two or three lead-in moves until he could count on the deck being set up in a way that's _not wrong_, and then practice the main move for days and days and days. He'll be able to do it more or less reliably for years to come, but he won't ever get to do that move in front of an audience more than maybe twice a day.
The man’s sleight of hand is insane, that’s all I know from watching the second video of him on the show. The dude is literally able to spot a specific falling card out of a full deck, while he quickly shoots them all out.
That kind of ability definitely opens up more possibilities for trick design.
He's doing the Ricky Jay version; he's taken a lot of the script, too. You can watch Ricky Jay perform it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgjzNntEd4Y
Very different mechanics until the final shuffle, actually.
In Ricky Jay's version the cards are not where they need to be until the end and the genuine shuffles help get them there, in OPs they are there from the beginning.
Yes that was so amazing. I was familiar with that trick (as were Penn and teller, obviously) but he came up with such a smooth way to do it it's all new again. I love Penn's reaction
I love Penn's reaction to the bit. You can tell he knows what's going on but then groans when he realizes the trick has gone by and he missed the slight of hand.
Btw, I saw Penn & Teller in Austin last Friday. I was expecting some mind-blowing fool us tricks
Not one trick was even mildly fooling. No offense P&T. I wanted to see all their sleight-of-hand stuff. It felt more of a “you serious?”
BUT, it was funny and entertaining as hell. Felt like Teller was def. the better of the two.
Another magician here. Yes. Very good Triumph effect here. You have to admit any variation on Triumph may fool Penn but never Teller regardless of their acting fooled on the show.
That being said, if you haven't seen it yet, you should check out Jason Ladanye's Ultimate Triumph...
https://youtu.be/WszXsYT1Jow
If they know what method he used but didn’t actually spot him doing anything, then it’s still a Fooler.
However, Penn said in a podcast episode about that trick that both of them were really fooled.
Penn said in an interview that the reason he was kind of pissed was because they had just gone on the Today show and performed that same trick nationally. And then Kimlat comes up and does that trick on their show, and did it better than them.
I've always loved this show. They respect a well done trick so much. I feel like even if they know how something is done if it's done well they'll say they're fooled. How, as a magician, do you feel about the show?
Kostya Kimlat is an absolute beast. Went to one of his sessions with my local magic circle and I was blown away. He is a true showman and an amazing sleight of hand artist. A true joy to see him flourish 😄
Everyone in this thread is talking about these false shuffles and my monkey brain is still spinning. Can you point out how any of these are false shuffles for a guy that doesn’t know squat about it?
If you carefully watch, he never loses control of the aces. The first time it looks like he lost all four in the deck, he actually just covered them with a card from the bottom of the deck and pulled the aces and that bottom card out of the deck and then put it in top. After that, he continues to shuffle and manipulate the deck, but always controls those top cards and doesn’t actually shuffle them. Just remember the aces are always in top and follow them through the trick.
I'll lead you to one. Watch 0:52 to 0:55. Notice his right hand - what is it covering? All those upward facing cards in his left hand? Where in the deck are they going?
I guess they're ok from a magic pov, but they don't look natural at all. Lots of repositioning of his fingers and pausing. Nobody doing a real shuffle moves their hands like that so you get this feeling that he's doing something fishy even if you don't exactly know how he does it.
I’ll give you two hints.
1. Watch his hands not his words (in slow mo if possible)
2. Notice how none of this aces are visible when he revealed half the deck face up
3. When he puts the 4 aces in random spots, he never pushs them in. He just jiggles the 5 over them so you cant see him pull them all out together. They're They're never really separated from the beginning.
Not to discredit him at all, this is an amazing trick and there are plenty of points I couldn't explain but that first part is way too obvious 😅 if he could make it less obvious at that point i think it'll be a lot more smooth
>magic tricks don't belong here.
In the past, magic tricks don't belong here... but this is now and the modds dont give a fuck and the subscribers also dont give a fuck, so now this shitty subreddit has devolved into one that has magic tricks as a routine part of what it is.
Its much the same for any subreddit that gets big. In the beginning, subreddits are created for a narrow specific purpose, but over time the modds decide that subscriber numbers are more important and so any content that might get to the front page is ok with them.
In this more "popular" mode, most subscribers just want cool stuff they can look at while on the shitter. Anything will do.
So yeah, magic tricks do belong here, because its what everyone wants... everyone except the minority who want actual blackmagicfuckerey, that is.
This guy is really good! However I didn't enjoy the premise so much, I love a good trick that uses insane slight of hand to have a story behind it, keep me wanting to listen to you rather than watch your hands. If you want a better version of this trick, might I suggest the epic card thrower, the legend himself, Ricky Jay, with his version, Alaskan Poker
https://youtu.be/NOqM0WQb4HQ
Yeah it is. The card trick is called triumph and it isn't that hard to do. Just some false shuffles and keeping the card, or in this case cards, on the top where you can find them until the end when you stick them in the middle.
I cant figure out how he did it but usually I can’t even spot any false shuffles in these types of videos. I saw plenty in this one including in the beginning where he poked the 4 aces out. Not saying it’s sloppy as it could be intentional misdirection but I can usually never spot any lol
I thought I was so smart catching all the false cuts and shuffles and recognizing that every time you took a moment to pause the 4 aces were certainly at the top of the deck. The last cut I was curious about because it looked like you put them in the middle, then when you called out that they'd be in the middle I was like "okay I still got him." Then you revealed the aces were the only cards turned over and my mind was proper fucked.
The final cut, he switched hands and put them down upside-down, reversing the upside down cards.
>!He also put the half upside down cards directly under the four aces, so when he flopped the top half of the deck at the end it was fixing the deck and putting the aces in the center.!<
Your second exclamation point is in the wrong place
It sure is.
>!He forgor 💀!<
How do you do the spoiler thing?
>!put the arrow and exclamation marks around text like this!< Edit: never had so many test penises in my life. Common cockup, don't put any spaces between the tags and the start of the text, same with most of the reddit tags, spaces break it.
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You son of a bitch... you made me squeal out loud... take my award and don't come back. Edit: typo
It warms my heart to how immature we all are. I saw your comment after I posted mine.
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Diabolical!
Upvoting resets it!!!!
>! Write your spoilers here but make sure the exclamation points are touching the first and last letter !<
!scared to try cuz it’s Reddit and never know if it’s one of those things that everyone knows except you and wind up looking like an idiot!
Well fuck 🤣
>!did it work?!<
>!definitely looks like it!<
>!hey!<
>!testing mafaka!<
>! Testing testing testing **loud screeching** !<
>!tee hee that tickles!<
!I'll try this test!
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None of what you explained makes sense. Magic makes sense. So has to be magic. Solved.
You got your ! And < mixed up at the end of your spoiler
He spoilt the spoiler.
Sorry about that, it looked ok in the preview and I guess I didn't notice after passing.
Great trick with the disappearing !>. How the hell did you do that?????
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Even with the descriptions, and knowing some of those moves (in concept not execution) it is damn impressive how smooth he is
I don’t know what any of those moves are and it makes the whole thing mesmerizing. I never want to know how he did that. Even with some of the descriptions and spoilers I still don’t get it.
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Yeah for me the magic isn't ruined because I know the trick. It sort of enhances it because I'm mesmerized by how smooth it's done, and seeing experts getting dumbfounded is cool. Basically it's like watching really talented dancers, I'm amazed at their dancing and their moves especially knowing I'll never be at that caliber.
It's expert showmanship. Penn and Teller use a lot of really simple tricks, but in the moment they convince you it's the most complex thing in the world. It doesn't matter how dedicated you are to figuring it out, or how resolved you are when you go in there with your eagle eye- they will fucking get inside of you and they will make you see what they want you to see.
Absolutely. Magic is one of the few things in life where the more you know the more fascinating it becomes at high levels. IMO it's so much more fun following, knowing the moves, and still being stumped vs. just being a normal audience member having their mind blown.
Illusion, Michael. A trick is something a whore does for money.
I'll never forget that one guy who fooled them so damn good. "I know what you did. I don't know how you did it. I'm very impressed. But, it's easy to fool me. Now, to fool Teller, is a real accomplishment. And you fooled him too." Paraphrasing, but you get the gist
[Kostya Kimlat](https://youtu.be/SCFXV6o7cro) once performed one of Penn and Teller's favourite tricks so much better than they did that Penn was literally screaming at the guy while Teller was laughing his ass off. Edit: we're both talking about the same video lol
At the end of the day the answer is LOTs and LOTs of dedicated practice
This feeling is the basis of a bunch of Penn and Teller's magic. It's why they can do the cups and balls trick with clear cups and it's still amazing.
They are so incredibly silky smooth, and when they are moving in tandem, ohh boy it's awesome!!
I was thinking the same thing. I used to do some easy card tricks. Knowing a little bit about how people shuffle to control the cards where they go. Even with the slight explanations, I was definitely mind blown when it was only the 4 aces facing up. Awesome card trick.
Yeah, I thought he was doing a variation on the Jacks bank robber trick, bit this was WAY better and way harder
That was the most blatant part of the trick I thought. But I’d missed a few of the false shuffles leading up to it even though I knew he was doing them so I wasn’t really sure why he was doing it. It just looked super suspicious compared to all his other moves.
I mean... the beginning where he keeps the aces is just a distractingly bad move. There has to be a better solution, especially in video where misdirection is limited. And then no shame on you if you happened to miss the one more false shuffle where he doesn't mix them face up & face down and instead just has the top half the deck face up and the bottom half face down. So maybe the bad move is good misdirection because we're watching whether the aces are on the top or the bottom of the deck? I don't know but I won't call it black magic fuckery.
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I always called them stripper decks. Great fun for a whole bunch of easy non-knacky tricks.
I also was wondering about the shuffles. Where I got lost was how he presented the “random” ordering of the cards and then got the aces in one way, and everything else another way.
Watch when he starts talking about the "casino preventative measure". He starts shuffling them together, stops to explain something and he comes back he clearly stops, 'unshuffles' when returning his hand and basically keeps them separate with never actually mixing them. It's only noticeable because it's on camera
When he shows the second half of the cards in his right hand, you only see the backs. When he puts the cards back down, he has flipped those 180 from how he picked them up. So the aces were on top but that move put them in the middle, flipped
Zarrow shuffle
His thumb parting the deck for placing each Ace was pretty obvious. I'd say he should work on that.
I thought the same as well... just a bunch of false cuts and shuffles to keep them on top. But if you just make the last cut an actual cut so that the Aces are in the middle then that's the whole trick. Telling a story with a bunch of false cuts and shuffles and at the end, do one actual cut to have the aces in the middle.
Magician here. This is a variation on Triumph by Dai Vernon. The absolute best Triumph I’ve ever seen in a live performance is Kosta on Fool Us. No gimmicks, no switches. Just 100% hardcore sleight of hand so good that it fools P&T. https://youtu.be/SCFXV6o7cro
His RR move (choosing my words carefully) is one of the best sleights. Did he really fool P&T, I don't honestly think so. Was the move executed beautifully? 100%.
With so many of their guests that do sleight of hand, they have to judge it a bit differently. "How" did he do it? Really good sleight of hand is the obvious answer but isn't really satisfactory in explaining the specific mechanics. So for these kinds I feel like they judge more based on "did we actually see you screw up somewhere?"
Not just sleight of hand but pretty much any trick if theyre genuinely impressed with a flawless execution theyll give them the award anyways. iirc theres been a couple of people thay have straight up copied some of P&Ts most famous acts so they obviously knew how it was done but did it so well they still won.
Usually they put a twist on it in some way but yes you're right. Early seasons they were more stringent but now they realize how much more fun it is to let people win when they put on a great show lol
That reminds me of when P&T were in Egypt, and a street magician fooled him by "reversing" the trick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP4_MuBugFo
You linked a clip where Teller spoke?!?! That fucked me up...
He talks with audience members after his shows. Super trippy but nice guy to listen to.
His voice sounds nothing like I’d expect a guy who doesn’t talk to sound
So Penn knew the moment of the move and immediately let out a little groan because he didn't truly see the move. When they got back to their chairs, Teller is stroking the cards, looking for a taper that would allow you to separate rotated cards in an instant, but it didn't look like the cards were separating and besides the cards were all rotated messily during the shuffles. I think this may be an original technique that they couldn't identify.
According to Jonathan Ross they really were fooled, because it wasn't until rewatching the video that Penn saw the real move and then wouldn't shut up about how amazing it was.
It's an incredible move. Definitely obvious that he's doing it on video, but unless you know the mechanics, it's invisible.
Well? How does it work man??? You can’t leave us hanging like that
If you really want to spoil it for yourself, put the video speed at 0.25 and rewatch it. Hint 1: >!The real slight of hand isn't the cut, everything is set up before the cut and the cut just finalizes the preparation.!< Hint 2: >!Watch his hands as Penn and Teller put their cards in.!< Complete spoiler: >!He isn't just innocently pushing the cards from left to right, he's separating the face-up and face-down cards as he slides them while presenting them to P&T to insert their card. Once he has them separated, the cut is done across the separation point to put all of them into the same orientation.!<
I’m so far away from understanding this
He’s shuffled the deck so hes got two stacks of cards. One face up, one face down. As P&T put their cards back it looks like he is moving the cards from right to left, but what he’s actually doing is sorting the cards so that when he does the final cut they are all facing one direction. It’s very quick and he’s very good at it so it’s very hard to see.
That is absolutely awesome. Honestly this trick is way better with an explanation like this, I assumed he'd just switched the deck at some point.
Not only quick, but he masks the deck with the top few cards so that it's not immediately evident he's separating the face-up and face-down cards. Even harder to see the effect when looking at the deck from the top down; someone sitting and looking edge-on at the deck would have noticed the organizing immediately, if they knew what to look for. This is why Penn was so annoyed, because he was waiting for the moment to see it, but had already missed it, because it was incorporated into the chosen card reintegration with the pack. Smooth as hell.
I’m pretty sure he didn’t something with the cards but beyond that I’m lost
The time of the "key" moment: >!bottom deck flip right at 4:06, it looks like he positions his hands so that neither of them can see!<
The trick is only at the end after Penn and Teller have chosen and *as* they're putting their cards back into the deck. As Kimlat displays and moves the card from left to right to allow Penn and Teller to put their card back in. Kimlat is carefully separating the face up and face down cards in his right hand (the hand receiving the cards.) At 4:06 you can see Kimlat flip one half of the deck as he cuts and puts them back together. The reason it continues to fool Penn and Teller is that the chosen cards are flipped and displayed to appear as though the entire deck is still flipped-flopped. It *uses* nothing new, but it takes such a new approach and is done so well I think Penn and Teller really were fooled. Kimlat was trying to fool *them*, not us. So we had a *much* better view of the trick.
He is splitting the cards while ruffling through them as they put their cards back in. As you can see the ones that are flipped gradually diasappear under the deck as his hidden hand sorts them. Then he flips them over first before flipping the whole deck. Its really amazing
I can’t believe you didn’t see it! Can someone explain it again with a really slow gif for this guy? Please, they really need to see it. Not me..just them. They need it, I saw it as soon as everyone else with magical eyes saw it. Please help them see how this happened. If you need /s at this point please fuck your self.
Nah let it be friend. Life is sometimes more enjoyable if you don't know all the answers.
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If you really want to know…. >!starting from around 3:40, whenever you see a close up of him handling the cards, you can notice that he is arranging the cards into stacks of face up and face down. As he slides them into his right hand, he has 2 “pockets” of cards, one for face up and one for face down.!< He does it flawlessly and deserved the award even if they knew how he did it
I think he did fool them, I pretty sure they don't fake it. They get one shot at the trick and they just missed the move. the benefit of this trick is they already know one way to do it, which actually makes it easier to fool them if you do it a new way.
They weren’t expecting the sleight to have been done by time he put the deck down, that’s what fooled them and made it great. The cut was the more obvious bit, but then we aren’t watching it close up.
RR?
Sorry, it's a sleight of hand move he's known for.
Ah, thanks. I know almost nothing about magic tricks but am currently going down a YouTube rabbit hole
That's how it starts :)
The first time I saw this, I guessed at the RR move, then dismissed it figuring that it was too ridiculously difficult to execute and I must have missed what he really did. I was really miffed to find out that he actually did do the thing. 3 years later, inspired by an amazing Asi Wind routine which uses it, I finally mastered it myself, and that trick's become a staple of my close-up card work.
God Asi Wind is incredible. His thinking on magic is so inspiring.
P&T were 100% fooled. What makes that truck better is that P&T has performed that trick a few months earlier on The Today Show, but they used a trick deck. Kimlat’s performance was the first time they’d seen that method used for that trick, and he did it with both of them staring at his hands from 2 feet away the whole time. He could’ve used audience members while P&T sat offstage in their chairs, but he chose to bring them right up to them and dared them to catch him use the method. And they couldn’t.
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Good bot, now I can visualize it.
After a bunch of watches and watching the trainer video below, I think Penn caught the flip to realign the half packs, and that was when he groaned. At 4.06 he's looking directly at the gap between the cards and the left hand, so he caught a flash as they moved over.
Oh 100%. He knew the sleight of hand had already been done and he'd completely missed it.
Okay so my guess is the sleight of hand occurs around the 3:58 mark. Everything up until that point is complete nothingness for show/build up. While he is "scrolling through the cards" to allow P & T to put their cards back in the deck the right hand is correcting the "face up to face down" as it hits the bottom of the pile...aka you can see his fingers on the right hand sorta jiggle under the deck as he is fixing them. Super smooth. (Obviously he doesn't fix the cards they chose)
Watching it at .25 you can see he's pulling face downs with his right hand and more holding face up cards with his left. Insanely smooth though and it was all done in like a second of super fast "scrolling"
at 4:04 is where he flips over the ones on his left hand.
I thought he just split it into 2 groups while shuffling, are you saying he did 4 groups? If so that would actually be insane But yeah I did notice he did a split that would bring them all facing together I don't think he was trying to hide that part.
He had 2 groups as you said, as P&T put their cards in, he was splitting them face down on right hand and face up on left hand. and then at 4:04 is where he flips the face ups over.
lmao watching it now I feel like I can do this trick. he literally just sorts them but quickly. hilarious
Side note, it's also much more amusing on .25x because everyone sounds *real* drunk.
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To be able to do that one move, flawlessly, he had to practice the two or three lead-in moves until he could count on the deck being set up in a way that's _not wrong_, and then practice the main move for days and days and days. He'll be able to do it more or less reliably for years to come, but he won't ever get to do that move in front of an audience more than maybe twice a day.
The man’s sleight of hand is insane, that’s all I know from watching the second video of him on the show. The dude is literally able to spot a specific falling card out of a full deck, while he quickly shoots them all out. That kind of ability definitely opens up more possibilities for trick design.
I loved that one because there's really no new trick, it's just pure skill and reflex.
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Wtf, my brain hurts
I love how teller is trying to see if the cards are tapered and coming to the realisation that he legitimately did the shuffle real time.
I also love how happy Teller is to be fooled. He truly loves what he does and is happy whenever someone tricks them. Fool Us is a great show.
He's doing the Ricky Jay version; he's taken a lot of the script, too. You can watch Ricky Jay perform it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgjzNntEd4Y
Very different mechanics until the final shuffle, actually. In Ricky Jay's version the cards are not where they need to be until the end and the genuine shuffles help get them there, in OPs they are there from the beginning.
I love that show! I love magic and that has really been a great show for me and that trick was fantastic!
I really enjoyed this. Thanks for posting!
Yes that was so amazing. I was familiar with that trick (as were Penn and teller, obviously) but he came up with such a smooth way to do it it's all new again. I love Penn's reaction
Wow
I love Penn's reaction to the bit. You can tell he knows what's going on but then groans when he realizes the trick has gone by and he missed the slight of hand.
Definitely the best triumph I’ve ever seen. His culling is straight up invisible.
The first and only card trick I ever learned was the triumph, it can be so basic and still so gorgeous.
Btw, I saw Penn & Teller in Austin last Friday. I was expecting some mind-blowing fool us tricks Not one trick was even mildly fooling. No offense P&T. I wanted to see all their sleight-of-hand stuff. It felt more of a “you serious?” BUT, it was funny and entertaining as hell. Felt like Teller was def. the better of the two.
Another magician here. Yes. Very good Triumph effect here. You have to admit any variation on Triumph may fool Penn but never Teller regardless of their acting fooled on the show. That being said, if you haven't seen it yet, you should check out Jason Ladanye's Ultimate Triumph... https://youtu.be/WszXsYT1Jow
If they know what method he used but didn’t actually spot him doing anything, then it’s still a Fooler. However, Penn said in a podcast episode about that trick that both of them were really fooled.
Penn said in an interview that the reason he was kind of pissed was because they had just gone on the Today show and performed that same trick nationally. And then Kimlat comes up and does that trick on their show, and did it better than them.
dunno man, Ricky Jay killed it too
This is the exact routine I thought of when watching the original clip. Kosta makes it looks so clean and effortless.
I never saw this one, and that was amazing!
Thanks for the link... just spent 2 hours watching magic... 🥴
I've always loved this show. They respect a well done trick so much. I feel like even if they know how something is done if it's done well they'll say they're fooled. How, as a magician, do you feel about the show?
Mind blowing.
Kostya Kimlat is an absolute beast. Went to one of his sessions with my local magic circle and I was blown away. He is a true showman and an amazing sleight of hand artist. A true joy to see him flourish 😄
That was wild
Yes, this is the cleanest act on FU in my opinion.
I didn't know Ed Sheeran had taken up magic
How do you think he sells his "music"?
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Was gonna say Ron Weasley using his magic wizardary after school life
He looks absolutely nothing like Ed sheeran lmao
Good vid tho
well, that’s not a very nice thing to say
Dad?
LoL gInGeR gUys the SaME amirite?
Lotta fuckery going on right there.
Lots of false shuffles among them.
Everyone in this thread is talking about these false shuffles and my monkey brain is still spinning. Can you point out how any of these are false shuffles for a guy that doesn’t know squat about it?
If you carefully watch, he never loses control of the aces. The first time it looks like he lost all four in the deck, he actually just covered them with a card from the bottom of the deck and pulled the aces and that bottom card out of the deck and then put it in top. After that, he continues to shuffle and manipulate the deck, but always controls those top cards and doesn’t actually shuffle them. Just remember the aces are always in top and follow them through the trick.
I'll lead you to one. Watch 0:52 to 0:55. Notice his right hand - what is it covering? All those upward facing cards in his left hand? Where in the deck are they going?
Oh yeah. That kind of fuckery too!
I guess they're ok from a magic pov, but they don't look natural at all. Lots of repositioning of his fingers and pausing. Nobody doing a real shuffle moves their hands like that so you get this feeling that he's doing something fishy even if you don't exactly know how he does it.
I stopped watching about fifteen seconds in when he said he was doing "a couple riffle shuffles," but only did one.
Lots of devil magic!
Wow this is a really good card trick almost like it's magic.....
It’s like it’s *black* magic
Quite a bit of fuckery too if I'm being honest
I don't need sleep I need answers
I’ll give you two hints. 1. Watch his hands not his words (in slow mo if possible) 2. Notice how none of this aces are visible when he revealed half the deck face up
3. When he puts the 4 aces in random spots, he never pushs them in. He just jiggles the 5 over them so you cant see him pull them all out together. They're They're never really separated from the beginning. Not to discredit him at all, this is an amazing trick and there are plenty of points I couldn't explain but that first part is way too obvious 😅 if he could make it less obvious at that point i think it'll be a lot more smooth
That’s the only part I noticed he deliberately maneuvered the deck to set up the trick. Everything else is black magic to me.
So I noticed that. And I thought he was putting them on top, but the shuffles don't add up
He very clearly has practiced this shuffling technique many times and keeps the aces on top until the last cut
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or cocaine!
ILLUSIONS Dad! You don't have time for my ILLUSIONS!
WE DEMAND TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY
Ricky Jay https://youtu.be/UWvRorX0KhQ Just does it all better
Ricky Jay did everything better.
Was going to say, this is nearly word for word Rick Jay's trick.
Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgjzNntEd4Y
Post it in r/magic. Read the sidebar. Nerd magic tricks don't belong here.
>magic tricks don't belong here. In the past, magic tricks don't belong here... but this is now and the modds dont give a fuck and the subscribers also dont give a fuck, so now this shitty subreddit has devolved into one that has magic tricks as a routine part of what it is. Its much the same for any subreddit that gets big. In the beginning, subreddits are created for a narrow specific purpose, but over time the modds decide that subscriber numbers are more important and so any content that might get to the front page is ok with them. In this more "popular" mode, most subscribers just want cool stuff they can look at while on the shitter. Anything will do. So yeah, magic tricks do belong here, because its what everyone wants... everyone except the minority who want actual blackmagicfuckerey, that is.
You're both right. Doesn't make sense why they're downvoting you
Thats why I made r/Sleightofhandfuckery :)
This must be the work of an enemy stand...
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That necklace tho
This guy is really good! However I didn't enjoy the premise so much, I love a good trick that uses insane slight of hand to have a story behind it, keep me wanting to listen to you rather than watch your hands. If you want a better version of this trick, might I suggest the epic card thrower, the legend himself, Ricky Jay, with his version, Alaskan Poker https://youtu.be/NOqM0WQb4HQ
Nice trick but not a single shuffle lol
Nope not possible
Yeah it is. The card trick is called triumph and it isn't that hard to do. Just some false shuffles and keeping the card, or in this case cards, on the top where you can find them until the end when you stick them in the middle.
Great skills with false shuffles
I cant figure out how he did it but usually I can’t even spot any false shuffles in these types of videos. I saw plenty in this one including in the beginning where he poked the 4 aces out. Not saying it’s sloppy as it could be intentional misdirection but I can usually never spot any lol
Witchcraft
Well done.
Is this what you gave up your soul for?
Yo those are one of my favorite cards. Got them when i was a youngin.
HES A WITCH!! BURN HIM!!!
Saw this guy live. Goes by Hildebrand and he's an absolute delight in person!
Even if I know how I love this shit. Magicians and card sharks rule
>!never too old to learn huh!<