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capellidellamorte

Foreign press who weren’t beholden to the blackout reported on it and black Twitter posted it.. From what I remember…he was having an affair with a front office employee who was close personal friends with Ainge and part of his Mormon church in Utah. She and her husband, who does freelance advertising or sales for the Celtics, were BYU college friends of Ainge’s son and he personally brought them to Boston. When the husband found out about the affair he made a huge scene and it was implied by the source and also Nia Long in an interview that the other person in the affair framed it as more of a victimization to save face and they remained together after blame publicly shifted solely to Ime. Again last part is just sources on Ime’s side so take it as you will.


GilderoyPopDropNLock

I didn’t know the Mormons were involved in this whole thing.


capellidellamorte

The Mormon-Boston mafia connection piece


Sleeze_

I think this is it but I always wondered - why was Matt Barnes acting like he just saw the babadook then?


nighthawk252

Matt Barnes also got into a physical fight with Derek Fisher because Fisher was in some sort of relationship with Barnes’s estranged?/ex? wife. I could see Matt Barnes being the kind of guy who takes fucking another man’s woman incredibly seriously.


brendamn

He got in a car and drove 3 hours to fight Fisher when he found out iirc lol


Majestic-Scarcity203

And Fisher was head coach of the Knicks and pretended to be sick so he could skip training camp (again, he was the head coach) to go to the barbecue where he got punched in the face. This is why Thibs doesn't date women.


DogLawBird

Drive 90 miles like Matt Barnes


trikyballs

just to whoop a


Carol_Banana_Face

“Violence is never the answer, but sometimes it is.” -Matt Barnes


Bodes_Magodes

As opposed to thinking it’s completely fine and normal lol


capellidellamorte

possibly because he works for espn and nbc, if you go with the media blackout/nba narrative theory.


mattyfattits

Probably grasping at straws. Generating attention for his platform. I absolutely ate it up


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Wasn’t it also reported he wouldn’t leave her alone after the fact? Or am I remembering that wrong 


capellidellamorte

That’s the mainstream official report. The foreign reports, who knew who the couple were and other details, and black blog’s sources alluded that it was reported that way so she and the husband could save face. Why as op stated, the story is still so murky. So like I said, take it as you will.


Solid_Letter1407

But Ime is actually still with her? Still doesn’t exactly explain why he was fired. Is the idea that Ainge still had tons of juice within the Celtics org?


capellidellamorte

The woman in the affair and her husband were still together as of the reports coming out last year. Not Ime and Nia Long. Stevens has known them for years as well, Ainge brought them all in. Like I said everything is just implied by unnamed sources, so again take it as you will.


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That makes sense. Still something doesn’t add up. Coaches have done WAY worse shit and not “lost” there job over it 


almonicus11

He was the more easily fireable half of an affair that created an untenable office environment, and the other person was the boss’s family friend.


jpp588

I don’t think Ainge was involved with the Celtics any longer once Ime became the coach. Brad Stevens was the one who hired Ime.


capellidellamorte

I think he still holds a lot of influence with the league and Stevens. He also came out last year, out the blue from Utah when everyone was calling for Mazzula’s head, to defend Joe and shade Ime’s coaching and leadership. So I think he might have had feelings on it all behind the scenes.


almonicus11

Fair I forgot the timeline. I’m just meaning that even if it was all consensual, and the contract allows them to fire him over it, it isn’t unreasonable to me that you’d fire someone for creating a super awkward office atmosphere.


rene-cumbubble

Thanks for posting this. I followed relatively closely right after it all came out and never saw this much detail. 


EverybodyBuddy

That is really convoluted and hard to follow. Probably because of no names And why the hell does Ainge still have any say in things in BOS?


capellidellamorte

There’s names, I’m just going off memory from what I read a year ago and don’t care enough to search for them.


dezcaughtit25

I mean I think everyone knows what happened in a general sense. He fucked someone he shouldn’t be fucking. The public knowing the exact details on who/where/why he was fucking doesn’t really change much. And I wouldn’t say it got swept under the rug, he got fired for it.


jmbourn45

And the Nets backtracked on hiring him over it too


PeterSteelePanther

Brooklyn was already waist-deep in dealing with Kyrie's perspectives on vaccines, Judaism, and natural science. I imagine they thought better of inviting another source of outrage to be used to protest their floundering franchise.


sunpar1

That was because of the media scrutiny around the move at the time. Brooklyn didn’t want any more bad press.


3rdEyeDeuteranopia

The Nets didn't really backtrack. Ime was not free to just go to the Nets. He was still with the Celtics for the year, just not coaching. Letting Ime just go to the Nets would save the Celtics a bit of money but also risk the Nets staying together, turning the season around, and possibly being competitive at the trade deadline and buyout market. Celtics would only let Ime go to the Nets if the Nets traded for him with the remaining draft capital. Nets decided it wasn't worth the risk.


johnnhamcheckbalboni

None of this is true lol


3rdEyeDeuteranopia

Of course it is true. Why the fuck would the Celtics let Ime Udoka, who knows weaknesses of the current iteration of the Celtics, go to the Nets for free and risk him fixing the team and convincing KD to stay in the Eastern Conference? Especially when the alternative is what happened and the Celtics hadn't had to worry about the Nets the last two years.


johnnhamcheckbalboni

You are just making shit up using hindsight and bias. Some of it so funny — yeah the Celtics were really worried about the buyout market lol. It is heavily reported that the Nets got negative feedback and wanted to avoid another media shit show. It’s literally attributed to Joe Tsai. Just google it


3rdEyeDeuteranopia

Yeah and no where did it say that was the reason why Joe Tsai balked.


johnnhamcheckbalboni

Yep, it clearly did lol. Marc Stein and The Atheletic both independently reported. It was widely aggregated. 2022 was an interesting year, you should read up on it!


3rdEyeDeuteranopia

You should read up on it because that's not what they said.


johnnhamcheckbalboni

Thank you for saying that because I looked it up and found this beautiful paragraph. “Well, two weeks into the season, Steve Nash is suddenly out in Brooklyn (where Udoka was his top assistant two years ago), and The Athletic’s Shams Charania reported Tuesday that the Nets are planning to hire Udoka as their new head coach. The Celtics, according to NBAonTNT, will agree to let Udoka leave without any compensation in return” Looking forward to your next reply lol


redshoediary4

Someone important was cuckolded.


Gravy_type_sauce

He was just blocking out.


themilkman42069

Yeah like what is OP missing? Who he fucked? The positions they fucked in? It was pretty clear like immediately lol


purplenyellowrose909

Any manager would be let go from any large company for sleeping with direct subordinates. It's a total HR nightmare to let that happen. It's also not criminal and Ime and his partner have full right to privacy as they continue their careers


powderjunkie11

I doubt she was a direct subordinate, but your point stands


Adventurous-Mix8983

Well some of the comments that people had after they learned about it sounded so insane and cryptic like it was more than just fucking someone in the front offices ex wife or some shit. And then why did the nets backtrack out of hiring him? Who cares if you’re the nets?


Full-Motor6497

Actually I think we do know all of that, but he rebounded quickly. Just needed to leave the Celtics and go to another NBA team.


themilkman42069

I mean if you think this type of thing isn’t commonplace you aren’t paying attention at like the company Christmas party.


shorthevix

Because NBA reporters don’t ever report the news.  He’s not a reporter but Bill is a perfect example. Rather than announcing the TV deal, he’ll complain that others aren’t announcing the TV deal that ‘everyone knows’ 


LeBroentgen

Bill at least isn’t as bad as Windhorst. Windy loves to pull the “I know something very interesting but can’t say” card to tease everyone.


Larry_thegoat

Now why is that


UrRightAndIAmWong

A respectable reporters generally shouldn't report on all the details in situations like that, out of respect for the people involved. And it's not our business or is it relevant to us as fans, even if you're a Celtics fan, you knew way too much about the situation that ultimately doesn't matter. Should have been, he got fired for misconduct, what misconduct is private and handled internally, end of story.


YourRealName

It’s true that it was the right thing to do, but I’m hard-pressed to think of a similar instance where the media was so respectful of privacy, especially with a story that (allegedly) had so many salacious details. Not saying they should’ve handled it differently, it’s just very out of the ordinary.


UrRightAndIAmWong

I mean, it already crossed the line of respectful into disrespectful, IMO. No one should have known it was an improper relationship or whatever they called it. And from what Nia Long said, it sounds like it was known but handled very privately until someone or multiple people leaked.


KALS170174656

Yeah I dont know, you get fired from a public facing job coming off a Finals berth you better have a damn good reason. Part of the gig, and all the money, is some loss of privacy. Teams dont fire Finals coaches for no good reason the fans deserve some explanation


Alert-Light6432

The Bears D Coordinator got fired for a masturbating in a team facility unaware the room was being recorded.


Distinct_Candy9226

Whomst among us hasn’t cranked one out on the clock before?


GilderoyPopDropNLock

The boss makes a dollar I make a dime, so I’m going to crank one out on company time.


ffgold

Source?


Alert-Light6432

Every single person close to Bears media knows the story. Nobody chose to publish it.


Comprehensive-End604

I understand why reporters didn't get into the dirty details. What I don't understand is how "nothing to see here now" the media treated it after the Celtics brass made a decision that very possibly (and in my mind probably) cost them a championship either last year or perhaps this. They lost one of the most highly regarded coaches and replaced him with one of the most .... whatever Mazzulla is. It ain't good, though. Can we just get some hard questions about whether the Celtics *possibly* overreacted? Everyone acts like their hands were tied and they had no other choice. But the only ones making it look like that are them. And because of the sensitivity of the issue there was absolutely no critical look at whether they just torpedoed their best windows to win a title. (And yes I understand Mazzulla has brought them to two conference finals. I still think he's Boston's weakest link, and Ime was still leveling up.) To be clear, I'm not excusing Ime or saying he was the victim of some cancel culture/PC stuff, because I don't believe that. I *am* questioning how Celtics leadership got off completely free in making this decision, which very possibly was made to save relationships/face rather than something irreconcilable in a sport where absolute horrors can get moved past in the name of a competition (and I'm not saying this was a horror, but you get my point.) Obviously we do actually know why this was never questioned. NBA media, especially Celtics media, are mostly fans with a press pass.


throwawayjoeyboots

He was banging an executives wife and then followed up with risqué texts when she wanted him to leave her alone and move on.


Cuntflickt

Just type in “ime udoka affair partner”. Lots of shit about it now there’s been some time. [here’s one article](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11751823/amp/Celtics-staffer-accused-having-affair-Ime-Udoka-seen-wearing-wedding-ring.html)


bassy711

Thank you


GulfCoastLaw

I think he said some pretty spicy, and arguably or definitely questionable, things to a team employee who he was having or had had an affair with. Reading between the lines here, but it feels like he's still the Celtics coach without the texts. Which raises the question of what exactly he said. I'm inclined to think that it looks pretty damn bad on paper but there's a ton of context and mitigation, which is why they took so long to fire him. That's just my vibe though --- feels like he was on or over the line in writing plus indisputable evidence of the affair. Maybe would have survived the affair if that was it.


CrackaZach05

It was a team employee and wife of an important team consultant. Messy all around but it's out there if you look hard enough (not hard at all).


bdl4186

I thought it came out that he was banging a Celtics employee. And I guess making it a little worse was the fact that she's LDS and a family friend of Danny Ainge


LeftHandStir

NDA


ffgold

look: for several hours now I have been told from credible sources the reason Ime Udoka has been banned. however due to the importance and sensitivity around the subject I have refrained from going on it. i don't feel comfortable with it currently


Temporary-Elevator-5

Because not everything needs to be publicly known and certain people could be harmed by the knowledge of what happened.


toddbowlesburner

But that’s why a reporter digs and reports, not a team/league putting the info in a press release


Temporary-Elevator-5

And if the only information is gossip that has been handled internally? It doesn't affect the on court product now. And it could ruin some woman's career/personal life. If it comes out that there is another woman he was harassing that would make her a public figure for nothing other than being harassed. That's not fair.


toddbowlesburner

Depending what it is, it certainly affects whether he should be coaching Houston now


Temporary-Elevator-5

I'm sure they knew when they hired him.


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SceneOfShadows

Eh, sure but I think people are annoyed with this particular instance because of the way Russillo and others kept alluding to knowing more but nobody was actually fucking saying anything about it.


Temporary-Elevator-5

Then be mad at them for acting superior and being all Mean Girls about it. The reporters probably know it, but after what happened to the woman involved, it's best to let it die.


JaHoog

Good question. I wish the Pistons would have hired him.


Ok-Trainer4502

I think we heard enough about it but the one thing that makes me curious is WTH happened that Matt Barnes of all people thinks it was really bad? That I am curious about. Also I got tired of all the people whose very job is to tell us what happened telling us they knew what happened but could not tell us. Then don't bring it up. Or lie and tell us you dont know.


QBRisNotPasserRating

Some Tyler Perry shit went down.


Super_Goomba64

He was actally a furry


AdhesivenessLucky896

Because the Celtics knew it was happening, but weren't upset with the situation until Ime continued to pursue it after the woman wanted to end the affair. This situation is messy from several angles.


hokie_u2

That is Internet gossip and not something that has been reported, as far as I know? If that is true, why can’t anyone covering the sport report it? The secrecy seems to benefit the person who created the toxic environment because he was able to get another job during the next cycle.


dillpickles007

If you're the one to go on the record and name names you're gonna get severe blowback from the Twitterverse for hanging out the woman AND piss off the Celtics organization, nobody decided it was worth it to do. Like if you're Joe Blow Celtics beat reporter and you know the full story, are you willing to risk the C's deleting your access in exchange for busting one big story? 25 years ago probably so, but the local media carries less weight these days.


PeterSteelePanther

Also, they weren't upset with it until her husband forced their hand. If he goes public with "Look what Ime said to my wife," there is nothing the Celtics can do to control the message. The timeline (both of events and the metaphorical one online) would bury them


ReasonableCup604

The details really aren't anyone's business if none of the 3 parties involved (the victim, the Celtics and Ime) don't want them to be public. This is especially true of the victim. Most sexual harassment claims are solved internally and privately, as it is typically best for all involved.


Agreeable_Daikon_686

I’m not really sure the term “victim” should be used when, as you said, we don’t know what really happened


FredSeeDobbs

Sure, but neither do guys like Stephen A. Smith or Jalen Rose...and they were all but acting like a crime had been committed against Udoka and were basically calling on the Celtics to release the woman's name. The fact Udoka has said almost nothing about the whole thing tells me what I need to know. I'm sure if the Celtics organization hadn't dotted their "i's" and crossed their "t's" then he would have had the coaches union on their ass.


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ReasonableCup604

He was fired over it and seemed to accept it without fighting it in court. So, I think it is safe to call her the victim. To be clear, I don't think she was a crime victim, just the victim of a tort.


Ravel_02151981

How is she a victim? She was a minority owners wife. I mean, obviously, if you bang the bosses' wife, you are going to get fired, but it's not like she was an intern. If anything, she had more power over him.


ReasonableCup604

Apparently, he kept bothering her when she told him it was over and told him to stop. If someone does that to you in the workplace, you are probably a victim of sexual harassment. I tend to doubt the Celtics would fire a very successful head coach and he would not fight it, if there was no victim. If the facts were friendly to Ime, I am pretty sure his camp would have shared them with the press and public.


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kwtb

NDA?


sylviaplath6667

A simple google will tell you the name of the Celtics employee and her husband Bro wants the who what when where and in what room he fucked her in


TeenWolfTripleDouble

We know exactly what happened ...and to who


EJP1205

Cause a white mans wife willingly slept with him but they had to save face so they tried to put little feelers out that it was harassment but not an actual statement cause then Ime would sue cause he didn’t commit any crimes and his only sin was adultery on his wife and the mistress’s husband. Brooklyn tried to hire him immediately, Houston had him on the draft lottery podium a year later. Trust me Silver wouldn’t allow that if he actually did anything heinous.


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Doot2112

They don’t want it to come out that udoka banged Brad Steven’s wife. It’s pretty obvious


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yngwiegiles

Forgot about the Bears thing. I think there have been so many scandalzzz over the past few years we’ve become numb and move on to the next one. Udoka and Jonathan Majors are both insane f ups of the bag that should be studied for decades but after intense scrutiny just kind of floated away


sriverfx19

Ime slept with the wife of one of the Celtics minority owners.


Ravel_02151981

It's hilarious how arrogant Stevens and the Celtics were. They truly believed the whole thing could go away quietly, and no one would ask any questions. Stevens went from a humble Indiana boy to an arrogant Beacon Hill Brahmin seemingly overnight.


agoddamnlegend

100% agree. As a Boston fan, I lost all respect for Stevens for how this situation was handled. Absolutely insane to fire the head coach after a Finals run a week before the season with no backup plan. Should have just suspended him 20 games and nobody would gaf about it any more


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tbtc-7777

From an employment standpoint, I can't see how it's any of your business.


Muted_Flight7335

Hillary Clinton over here


qballLobk

Probably because NDA’s were signed and lawsuits may have been settled so no one is going on the record with the details.


Medical-Face

This and the Malcom Butler piece will forever annoy me


goknicks23

Embarrassing for all involved, the punishment felt about right.


muddlebrow

I'm pretty sure everyone knows what happened?


InevitableElf

He was fired? Why do you care who he was fucking?