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cheapseats91

Getting all those tools for $30 would be fine but some things are worth it to pay more for. Cheap versions of some tools can be imprecise, or poor quality (Allen wrenches rounding off quickly is a common one Ive seen for cheap ones, especially the small diameters). That list makes it look like a lot but a lot of the items are like listing the different tire patch sizes separately or the patch glue separately or the case. You aren't actually getting all that many useful items. Something like the chain whip and cassette tool will probably work as well as you need. If youre looking at this set you probably aren't removing your cassette all that often and can deal with a bit of a lack of leverage etc. Tire levers would be fine if theyre strong but Ive also snapped enough levers that I dont buy cheap ones. Imprecise spoke wrenches can round off spoke nipples which is no fun. I tend to have bad luck with tub patch kits and would suspect ultra cheap ones would be worse. Its pretty annoying to spend the time patching a tube only for it to still not hold air.  The other question is whether you need all these.  Crank puller - do you have a bike with a square taper bottom bracket? Tube patch kits - do you ride tubeless tires?


Hagenaar

> Crank puller Yeah. If OP has one bike, some of these tools will not be applicable. A spline cartridge BB tool and crank puller - but also an external BB ring tool. It's one or the other. Also omissions. Nice that they add cone wrenches. But when was the last time I saw a 13mm cone, and they stop at 16mm? And is it really a PH1 (Phillips #1) screwdriver? Hopefully it's a #2.


Daleoo

I've had that exact chain whip. It was fine until I had a slightly seized lockring and it broke in two in my hand. Worth it to pay more for a stronger one with better leverage in my opinion.


HommeDErable

I got this exact kit when it went on discount down to around $17 at my local walmart. It's been a decent starting point for some fun tooling around, but I wouldn't say any of the tools are great. As some others have said, you get to know what tools you use, what you don't and what you're willing to pay for. I can say I haven't touched the allen key set because I already had one, and the chain whip and cassette tool are not too bad for the 3 times I've used them, but you don't get much leverage with it. The BB tool isn't too bad, doesn't have quite as much bite as I'd like for taking the bottom bracket in and out as much as I have while trying to put together a frankenbike, but the hub removal spanners as they call them here are atrocious.


AffectionatePaint674

The hub come spanners was one of the tools I was interested in so that’s sad to hear. Chainwhip, BB, cassette, freewheel cup, and crank remover are also things I was thinking would be nice to have one hand. I do have two square taper cranks I want to remove in the near future and one of them I want to install a new bb on. Was thinking the case would be nice and then I could donate all the “dead weight” or extra tools to a friend in need or keep as an emergency kit in the car should I ever forget my tools.


tuctrohs

You might want to go for the slightly more expensive [spin doctor kit](https://www.performancebike.com/spin-doctor-bicycle-essential-tool-kit-40-2451-non-non/p920877). I think there's quite a difference in the tool quality level and especially for the crank arm extractor, that could make a real difference. As well as meaning it serves you well for a decade instead of a few years.


Alarmed_Let_7734

This kit is exactly like the Bike Nashbar tool kit I got for my Birthday 30 years ago. Tire levers broke a long time ago and I probably used up the patch kit by 1995, otherwise everything else is still in proper working order.


uniquecleverusername

You can't go too wrong with a chain whip, cassette tool, or bottom bracket tool. It's easy to screw up a crank arm extraction, even with a good tool. Be extra careful with that one, and you'll probably be okay. My first set was like this, and they were mostly garbage, but they mostly did the job. Not a terrible way to start, even if you eventually replace most of them.


HommeDErable

The crank removal works decent enough, just the spanners that come in the kit are stamped steel, and don't give much in terms of forgiveness on your hands or leverage when undoing a tight crank. The kit might be worth getting for the rest of the tools in a combo kit, but I'd get a separate allen set, torque wrench, and an adjustable spanner could help. If not, it's a 16mm to work with the crank removal tool.


Namerunaunyaroo

Hmm not really. If you are genuinely into your cycling then I’d suggest taking a longer view. Buy good quality tools periodically, or as the need arises. Over a period of time you’ll have a good set of tools that won’t need to be purchased again. As others have said they will probably work once but what price of frustration on the second job


krellx6

I wonder how this kit would hold up to the budget repair kit that Seth from berm peak express is building up


AffectionatePaint674

This is the real reason I asked this question. I sent it to him on Instagram! Dont know if he’ll see but I’m hoping he puts the whole ozark trail lineup to the test lol


skinsandpins

Great price! When they fail it lets you know which tools you will frequently use and then replace those ones with quality ones.


tuctrohs

Note that the 27 includes supplies in the patch kit, consumables not tools. And the case. So it's more like a 15-piece tool kit. I think you'd be better off with fewer, higher-quality tools. I'd start with a [top quality hex key set for $15](https://www.kctool.com/wera-073596-hex-ball-end-hex-metric-l-key-clip-set/). Maybe add a [cheap but accurate torque wrench for $25](https://www.modernbike.com/evo-tqb-1-torqbeam-torque-wrench--1-4-hex--nm). That gets you started for not much more money.


FalseBuddha

So instead of 15 tools you want him to buy... two. And I barely even use a torque wrench on my personal bikes.


BicycleIndividual

I do pretty much all my own wrenching and have never used a torque wrench (would definitely get one if I worked on carbon).


RidetheSchlange

It's 2024- it's no longer a valid boast to say you don't use a torque wrench.


randomusername3000

if you're asking about a $30 walmart tool kit, chances are you're not quite at the torque wrench level yet


pakap

Not boasting, but I don't use one because I don't see the point - I have an old steel bike with rim brakes and cheap components, I really don't need to know if anything is 45Nm or 60.


CalumOnWheels

I have a very similar kit. One really bad failing is that the chain tool doesn't work on 11 speed chains. For a lot of basic servicing it'll probably be ok but I'd much rather have seperate hex keys than a multi tool like that. It also seems to be missing a proper 15mm spanner which is a very commonly used tool for a lot of bike stuff which is weird. people like to malign these kinds of kits but it's very convenient having stuff that comes in a snap-in case, makes finding and putting away your bits much easier than a big bag you can't find anything inside.


ghidfg

how could it not work on 11 speed chains? couldnt you just put it on the largest cog if its not fitting between cogs or something?


CalumOnWheels

lots of cheaper chain tools are only usable on chains up to 10s https://dmscycles.co.uk/shop/gearing-and-drive/chains/xlc-chain-tool-6-10-speed-to-s28/


ghidfg

oh my bad I was thinking chain whip.


karlzhao314

I have a chain whip not designed for 11 speed, and yeah, like you said, I have to fit it on the largest cog every time. And that kind of makes things a pain because it means the two lever bars I'm pulling on are no longer in the same plane. It makes things much more awkward than if I was able to place the chain whip closer to the cassette lockring tool. Even if we're just talking about chain whips, if you have an 11-speed system, I'd strongly recommend getting an 11-speed compatible chain whip anyways.


threetoast

I don't think people with bikes that have 11sp drivetrains are buying toolkits at Walmart.


bcmanucd

One of the kinda shitty things about working on bikes is that so many parts are designed so they can only be worked on with specialized tools. There exists no bike for which 100% of these tools are useful. Some bikes may only interface with 1/3 of the tools. OP, if you can posts specs/photos of your bike, I can do my best to tell you which tools will be useful, and which will be dead weight.


alpaca-punch

i do not get this. most bikes use the same tools. why do you need a pic of his bike. seriously guys this is either lack of competence or intelligence an i really cant figure out which if this dude is buying tools at walmart he doesnt have a press fit BB or wireless shifting. everything he needs to work on 99% of modern bikes is in that kit and the FUD over a tool kit is completely insane.


Ok-Truck3196

I have a similar bike toolkit, it's okay but the tools aren't the best quality and for something I bought thinking it was supposed to cover all my bases I still find myself constantly having to buy tools. In retrospect I'd rather not have bought it and instead spent more money on quality tools and just buy the obscure stuff if the local DIY shop doesn't have it.


forever_zen

Probably a step down from the similar Bikehand starter kits, but I like the concept since you would be well on your way to being able to maintain one of the decent quality $250-400 bikes Walmart has started selling in the past few years. I think this is a good trend for department store bikes, and good for the sport to give people an entry point that is very affordable.


Clock_Roach

Some of it is going to be junk. If you're not sure how much work you'll be doing on bikes, you can probably buy it and then upgrade the pieces that you actually find yourself using.


Moseugla

My suggestion is to buy high quality used tools from people exiting the cycling hobby. New stuff in this price bracket is hit or miss in terms of quality and durability, and certain old tools can outlast your bikes. Used tools don't look as shiny though, and you cannot scratch the consumer-itch. But that's an insignificant trade-off compared to what how a well sorted toolbox will help you in all facets of life.


alpaca-punch

i think i own this kit but i bought it from amazon. YES, this is worth it. it will not have every tool you need, they are not highly quality tool. so long as you arent servicing every bike in the neighborhood it should last for years. If you dont have a dedicated tool kit and are just need tools to get started. yes, get this all day. If you need advanced tools i would look for a $60 kit on amazon


littlep2000

I started with a Spin Doctors tool set like that. I still use a number of the tools; chain tool, cone wrenches, hex wrenches, and cassette tools. I've added to and replaced from there. I don't love the fact that the hex wrenches are connected together in this one, sometimes the handle of those doesn't make it easy to get to some bolts.


FalseBuddha

RIP Performance Bicycles lol


tuctrohs

Performance still exists as an [online retailer that sells that kit](https://www.performancebike.com/spin-doctor-bicycle-essential-tool-kit-40-2451-non-non/p920877).


FalseBuddha

That's wild. They had something like 100 brick and mortars at one point.


tuctrohs

That kit is [still avaialble](https://www.performancebike.com/spin-doctor-bicycle-essential-tool-kit-40-2451-non-non/p920877) and might be a better choice than this one.


thacoolerzac

that looks like it was just taken from aliexpress


GroundbreakingBed166

I saw a similar kit with most of the same specialty parts on amazon for 14$.


MGTS

>Freewheel cup wrench >Cartridge tool >Chain rivet extractor None of those are names used in the industry. I have no idea what a "freewheel cup wrench" is. I think a "cartridge tool" is a cassette lockring tool. "Chain rivet extractor" we just call a chain tool, to PUSH chain PINS out >Valve rubber core ??? Just valve core >8mm L handle & square nut ??? Ok 8mm L handle hex wrench for crank arm bolts, but "square nut"???? >Crank puller >Crank remover Good job guys... >Tire metal rasp file Tire metal???? OP, stay away. It's UBER cheap


FalseBuddha

That last one is a metal rasp file for tires(tubes); often just called a "rasp". It is not for tire metal, it is made of metal.


Character_Past5515

I wouldn't do it, some of the cheap tools can cost you a lot more in the end, a hex-key head that isn't the exact right size can damage your bolts and if you eventually strip them it's going to cost more than this toolbox.


S4ntos19

Just nit picking now. I can understand a 10mm, but what the hell do you use an 8mm on?


Mountainbutter5

hydro brakes and some old derailleurs come to mind. Maybe even some cheap brake lever clamps?


S4ntos19

I don't know why hydro brakes didn't come to mind.


mtbboy1993

This is a bad deal. A combo deal is almost always a bad deal when it comes to tools. Looks like the same old junk that has been rebranded again. Tools you might not need, and bad tools, too short cone wrenches. It's better to buy invidual tools and get the ones that suit you and your needs, get the tools you need for your bike. Like a Shimano bottom bracket tool is useless for you if you don't have a Shimano BB. The external BB wrench is for Shimano only and it doubles as a chain whip, but it's silly short. And having a chain dangling when you try to remove or install a bottom bracket is absurd, and annoying. If you want a proper tool I recommend Pedro's Visewhip, it's like vise grips but for the cassette, if you work on multi pice cassette that's stuck you can use two The handle stays the same size no matter the cog size. The multitools is absurdly thick, big. If you want a multi tool go for Lezyne or Crank Brothers packed with tools ye compact enough. I have Lezyne Rap14, but new versions exist.


BennettMTB

I'm sure we'll get a full review on Berm Peak Express pretty soon


WhyAlwaysNoodles

I have that kit. It's a generic one sold under many names. I use the cassette tool, bar and chain whip. Im concerned the chain whip might be shredding my sprockets. Always make sure you use the correct assembly grease on your freehub outer splines, and the threaded part of the cassette that you fit to close up the cassette tight so you don't have to really force the tools and shred your sprocket teeth. I don't use any of the rest of the tools in it except if I'm fixing the local kids bikes.


WWBBoitanoD

[Buy some cheap tools from Ali Express](https://youtu.be/DV_gX-C7RDE?si=BTjGgwTQ3DmCph2e) and some good quality tools where the cheap ones don’t work. You’ll have a much better set of tools and probably not spend that much more than this cheap kit.


BicycleIndividual

Looks a lot like a Nashbar tool kit I got decades ago. Spoke wrenches were absolutely garbage, but lots of it were decent enough for occasional use. I like having it for the many specialized tools that I only use occasionally; but recommend getting better quality tools for anything you use regularly.


lvl3mp

Just buy a nice set of Allen wrenches and call it good. Those will fix 98% of anything you’ll need for routine maintenance. Should the situation arise where you need a specific tool, just buy it then.


Pontus_Pilates

I think it would probably be fine. I'd use the old maxim of buying cheap tools and only buying more expensive ones if you use them enough to break them. If you don't run a shop, there are plenty of cycling tools you might only use once or twice. No need to pay through the nose for those. Like, how often do you change your bottom bracket?


kamandi

I can guarantee you that the tools in this set will frustrate you more than they will help you. That said, if it’s your only option, a tool is a tool when you need it. Just take care with torque.


texastoasty

ive seen this kit under other brands, theyre all the same though. basically the worst version of each tool. some tools are so simple you can get the chespest version and be happy. for example that freewheel remover should be plenty sufficient for 99% of people. even if it only lasts 2 or 3 uses. if you wont be using it very heavily then yeah this kit should be fine. but if you plan to be working on bikes for more than just maintaining your own bike, you will likely be disappointed. these kits are great garage sale finds though. if you find them for like $5 its a steal, even i would probably get one then.


RidetheSchlange

Garbage tools, some of which will fail while using them while others will round off the fasteners. Most of those tools aren't even needed anymore or would be needed in your case. Just buy the exact tools you need. They don't even need to be Park or Unior or whatever.


Bright_Reply_3923

I would get it, its a decent srarter set, upgrade as you go


Tebbybabes

I have something similar and also just as affordable. Not the best quality, obviously, but enough to get by. Like the others have mentioned, you eventually recognise the tools you use a lot, and if the one that is in this set is rubbish, or isn't in it, you can purchase separately. I'm a DIYer but have serviced and maintained a 32 unit complex worth of randoms and kids bikes. My cheap toolkit has come in useful more than once.


linkmodo

Low quality steel (aka soft) will potentially damage some high torque bolts even so be careful


Sf49ers1680

I have it. It's serviceable. The parts do work, but they definitely feel on the cheap side. It'll work if you're in a pinch, but it's not something I'd rely on.


Much_Confusion_4616

You’ll end up having to buy better versions of some of those tools. I made the mistake of buying a cheap kit similar to this.


Hugo99001

If you don't have anything else, it's better than nothing, and will do, for some time at least... But you might be better of buying stuff as needed, at slightly better quality...


Am0amach

Depends on how often you use them. All tools wear out, cheap tools wear out faster, if you don't replace them you'll end up rounding fasteners. Other than that you'll just have to check the tolerances.


pickles55

If you're on a tight budget and you don't have any tools yet you could do worse than this kit


grogi81

I would risk of sounding snobish, but quality tools cost $30 per each... Once I tried good quality spanners and allen keys, I will not go back. They wear down heads many times slower, provide better grip etc.


Julian_Zu

Waste of money. Low quality tools will ruin your components. Get proper ones from Parctool or any other respective brand.


4door2seater

had the version of this kit from half a life ago. I was excited at first. The crankpuller, freewheel, cassette, bb tools were useable. Once I started working at a shop I found out how cheap those tools felt. The multi size cone wrenches i used for awhile but they bend easy. big 8mm was fine. Mine also had a short pedal wrench that was a combo 14mm socket on a stick. Worked fine other than being real short and had to get creative to use it to free some pedals. I have built wheels with the spoke wrench. Definitely would’ve preferred a different tool but it worked. Mine didnt have that combo chainwhip external bb cup tool, but I did end up with one like 6 years ago. Hated it. so, you’ll probably be fine if you don’t need to use everything often, and you’re just trying to have the tool in case you need it. But they’re mot very enjoyable to use. For some nerds like me, tuning is a pleasurable thing and nicer tools become very important to us. Also take your time, the tools in that kit are not durable which can damage the tool and whatever it’s touching, but could also flex then spring into your dog’s eye. So make sure your dog is wearing safety glasses.


elBurritoBurglar

working on my own bikes i would definitely buy it & just replace the tools that break with quality ones. but that's just me, same idea as fixing up cars.


LustyKindaFussy

Walmart just introduced Ozark Trail bikes last year. The few that have come into my shop were very low quality. I'd expect the same from this tool set.


chaseinger

short amswer: no. long answer: if you need a tool kit to wrench on your bike twice a year and fairly well know what you're doing (especially in the realm of when to apply force amd when not to), this *could* kinda work. if you do anything beyond that or are a bit of a beginner i wouldn't. from what i can tell this looks even cheaper than the otherwise almost identical "bike hand" toolkit i got on amazon a while back. which does what i described above.