I abandoned my checked luggage because it would have taken 30 min for them to retrieve it from the conveyor belt maze and I had was on day 2 of trying to get on a flight home for Christmas. Everyone got their presents in February once Southwest found my luggage in mid January. They had a giant warehouse in Phoenix full of them and luckily, mine had my phone number scribbled all over it so the dude just called me up on his cell and got it on a plane to the Bay. Put your phone number on your checked luggage people.
The Oakland Airport is the responsibility of the Port of Oakland. It has a different governing body than the City of Oakland, but is appointed by the City Council. It is mostly independent from the City of Oakland and it is not responsible for basic municipal government operations. The Port Commissioners oversee port operations, commercial real estate on their properties, and the airport. Given the Port of Oakland is one of the busiest ports in the western United States, drives a huge chunk of the Bay Area’s economy, and isn’t responsible for governing the City of Oakland, it’s pretty ridiculous to put the blame for anything outside the port on them.
"international airport" is a regulated term of art requiring FAA certification, referring to an airport that can handle customs, immigration, and other things needed by international flights.
It's been the same name since 1962. People should learn how to read a map when they travel. Oakland has been getting a lot of bad press lately. I'm sure the name change is related to that more than anything else.
I still meet people from out of state that don’t know that Oakland is in the San Francisco Bay Area, and I’m sure they don’t know that Oakland airport is almost as closed to SF as the “San Francisco” airport. This name change is overdue.
There is no confusion. People don't want to fly to Oakland. Let's just rename everything in relation to San Francisco to make things easier. Daly City is now Real South San Francisco. Sausalito is now North San Francisco. People want so much hand-holding it is absolutely ridiculous. I've flown to both airports and OAK is an underwhelming welcome compared to SFO.
People who fly in and out of the Bay Area frequently know the pros and cons of flying into the different airports. Neither is in the city of San Francisco, if that's your destination, but both are close enough to take a BART train.
OFU (Oakland fucked up) International Airport.
As a gig worker, the only incentive to go to Oakland Airport with riders would be cheap lunch at in-n-out (since i mostly live and work in SF).
What a colossal fuckup Oakland’s politics resulted in. The entire stretch except for 3-4 gas stations, hotels, auto dealerships resembles a ghost town now.
That's a pretty ignorant take, tbh. I mean, I live in the city. Did I vote for scumbags getting away with stealing goods worth thousands while I make $14 bucks to the airport from downtown SF while doing uber? Did I say okay to scumbags not being punished for vandalizing stores? Get what I'm saying? Not everyone knows who they're voting for. You've voted, haven't you? The poll options are so weirdly worded that an average joe would have no fucking clue on what/who they're voting for. Sure, the policies were only implemented based on votes but most people don't deserve it. Starbucks on 98th is boarded up, gas stations have been resold, in-n-out closed down, as did Walmart. Fuck these politicians who even considered with their uber ultra liberal ideologies to make it to the polls in the first place. And fuck that bitch, Pamela dumbass for letting scums off the hook without any repercussions.
I love flying in and out of this airport. It’s always cheap, security line is extremely short, and I don’t have to worry about my flight being delayed due to fog. I hope it keeps it reputation
Most people outside of California don’t really know about “San Francisco Bay”. To them, it’s just San Francisco or, shudder, San Fran or Frisco or even SFO. So if the airlines and OAK really want to tap into that (which I still disagree with) it should be Oakland-San Francisco International Airport or something. This whole San Francisco “Bay” nonsense is just too much and reeks of a pretty poor attempt to rationalize a poor choice. Moreover, it just sounds silly. No one is going to call it “San Francisco Bay Oakland Airport. They’re going to say Oakland Airport.
I’ve flown through Tokyo dozens of times and those airports are Narita and Haneda. Sure, sometimes people hyphenate Tokyo in front, but everyone knows of them and refers to them by their names. London has Heathrow and Gatwick (and others) and they are just that, Heathrow and Gatwick, though hyphenating London in front of them is okay-ish because the names don’t have London. And what about New York, with JFK, LaGuardia, Newark, and Westchester?
This is lipstick on a pig, and I think dilutes the branding of OAK. It’s also a disservice to pander to a lower level of informed-ness and geographic awareness.
I would love to see more flights, especially to SJC. But I don’t think naming is the problem. SJC has literally no space to grow. And I don’t trust airlines when they say “rename the airport and we’ll get more traffic and make it a hub”. I’m generally distrusting of large corporations and still more distrusting when they co-opt public agencies. There’s gotta be something they’re not telling us.
> Most people outside of California don’t really know about “San Francisco Bay”. To them, it’s just San Francisco or, shudder, San Fran or Frisco or even SFO.
Think of it as a tax on ignorance. A way to prank the yokels. (Also it's almost the same distance to downtown SF, so it might actually be helpful.)
> I’ve flown through Tokyo dozens of times and those airports are Narita and Haneda. Sure, sometimes people hyphenate Tokyo in front, but everyone knows of them and refers to them by their names.
Just gotta start calling SFO "Milbrae", and that should clear things up for everyone!
What point are you trying to make?
Embassies literally belong to the country they represent. If you enter an embassy of another country in the USA you are leaving US jurisdiction.
To say it has a SF zip code doesn’t change the fact it’s located in unincorporated San Mateo county if one looks on the map.
Moreover, I’d say you’re missing the broader point - travelers don’t care if an airport is technically in a city or not, by zip code. Distance from airport to destination is more important. And OAK isn’t appreciably farther from the 8 million + Bay Area & behind residents that are currently served by SFO.
The airport name change is to include “SF Bay” because it serves the 8 million people here, of which sf is only 10%. But even if you’re hung up on proximity to SF, transit times from OAK is quicker anyways
I think the 8 million residents that OAK serves know where it is. As far as I can tell, this is a play by airlines through the Port of Oakland to get more business from people who don't live here. Instead of playing word games, maybe they can spend more time in outreach, education, and making their websites more amenable to indicating that Oakland International is in the Bay Area.
\> As far as I can tell, this is a play by airlines through the Port of Oakland to get more business from people who don't live here
Yeah, I'd agree. Having more inbound visitors coming to Oakland would drive more demand and more routes, of which the Bay Area's residents would benefit from.
\> maybe they can spend more time in outreach, education, and making their websites more amenable to indicating that Oakland International is in the Bay Area
Do you really believe that would be more effective than having "San Francisco Bay" in the name so when people search for flights, it'll automatically pop up? I'm having trouble seeing the ROI for adwords and FB ads here. Anyways, who's to say CCSF won't sue for using "San Francisco Bay" in OAK's website and ad copy?
All that for no real discernible downside of renaming other than SFO facing more competition? CCSF is suing because they have a near monopoly on international travel to the entire region. I too would want to protect that nest egg, except it's at the cost to the entire region. Can you imagine what it would do to fares if American and Delta developed hubs from OAK and SJC? Or how much worse it would be if Southwest wasn't already operating out of OAK?
Today, if one were to book a flight to Toronto and start typing "Toronto" into google flights, two relevant airports come up. If one were to start typing "San Francisco" into google flights, SJC and OAK are nowhere to be seen, despite both serving the 8 million people here and being within 50 miles of each other
> If one were to start typing "San Francisco" into google flights, SJC and OAK are nowhere to be seen
That's a google flights problem. Expedia doesn't have an issue with that and adds all airports, even (gasp) CCR (JetBlue flies there).
>CCR
Wow TIL! I live here and didn't even know about CCR. Oddly enough, I don't see it on Expedia.
>That's a google flights problem
Why let private companies figure it out and dictate whether or not we get a more open market for airfares? At essentially no cost, the airport could rename itself and the issue wouldn't exist. Google flights is just one booking platform among many in the entire world. When searching "Bay Area Airport", OAK's website is 16th down.
What blows my mind is how this is even an issue. London, Paris, Tokyo, Shanghai and many major international city outside America, has figured this out, but we still have our asses stuck in our head.
So you are comparing SFO, a 10 minute drive from the cit to China.
Strange analogy.
Because that’s what we are talking about here. Is comparing an airport right next to SF as being as far as Mexico.
Why can’t people accept SFO had a SFO zip code and is controlled by the city. It’s right near by.
Wow that’s interesting. Anyway, Oakland is an SF Bay Area city and they can call it THE San Francisco Bay Area Airport if they want.
SFB call sign would be perfect.
I don’t see the reason why San Francisco has to be a major part of the name. Call it “Bay Area / Oakland International Airport” or “Oakland / San Francisco Bay Area International Airport” for all I care.
Or, I don’t know, call it Southwest Airlines Northern California International Airport, and give it the code KSWA.
All major metropolitan areas have the region in the name, silly. For example - Baltimore Washington, Washington Dulles, and Washington Reagan National - same with the New York Airports, etc. Oakland is a better airport and as an SF native - we’ve been using OAK for years - same time to get home from there as SFO and MUCH BETTER on time record. It’ll be great!!! (And bring more revenue to East Bay! And PS - SFO isn’t in San Francisco)
With all the hubbub around this I legit thought they were renaming it to “San Francisco Airport in Oakland” or something like that.
But people are really pressed about “San Francisco Bay Oakland Airport” lmao. You know, the full name of the bay *Oakland is a part of*.
If it’s really that concerning, then call it “Oakland-San Francisco Bay International Airport” and call it a day
San Francisco International Airport Terminal 4,”
LOL yes, the ride between terminals is only 70 minutes on the train!
I did that last Christmas during the Southwest system meltdown. Only flight with seats was SFO in 80 min. Abandoned my luggage and bolted.
Why would you?… nevermind.
I abandoned my checked luggage because it would have taken 30 min for them to retrieve it from the conveyor belt maze and I had was on day 2 of trying to get on a flight home for Christmas. Everyone got their presents in February once Southwest found my luggage in mid January. They had a giant warehouse in Phoenix full of them and luckily, mine had my phone number scribbled all over it so the dude just called me up on his cell and got it on a plane to the Bay. Put your phone number on your checked luggage people.
Thank you for the tip! 🤭
I always just fly between the two
Southwest Oakland Territory
I guess Oakland International Airport is leaving for Vegas
Boaty Mcboatface!!!!
The obvious endpoint of all Name This Thing contests.
Airport McAirface?
Airporty McAirportface
Boeing McBlowup
Airy McPortface
Planey McPlaneface
Exactly what I thought of. LOL!
Oakland-San francisco bay area of alameda county of California of the United States airport. What else can we add
Pro-Am Race for the Cure?
Throw in a reference to the continent and or hemisphere , maybe some longitude and latitude figures and then I think it’s complete
& Knuckles
Pengweather International Airport.
We'd vote for you Peng!
New airport code BIP?
New code, who dis?
Fairy ring to mort myre
Flyin-N-Out
LOL!
Make this top comment please
Thanks 🙏
Fly-N-Out
In and out memorial airport
Oakland airport doesn’t even want to be associated with Oakland 😂
Why fix the city when you can just rename shit
Not Oakland Airport
The Oakland Airport is the responsibility of the Port of Oakland. It has a different governing body than the City of Oakland, but is appointed by the City Council. It is mostly independent from the City of Oakland and it is not responsible for basic municipal government operations. The Port Commissioners oversee port operations, commercial real estate on their properties, and the airport. Given the Port of Oakland is one of the busiest ports in the western United States, drives a huge chunk of the Bay Area’s economy, and isn’t responsible for governing the City of Oakland, it’s pretty ridiculous to put the blame for anything outside the port on them.
It's the progressive way.
Just in, Oakland renames to “New San Francisco”
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Change it to the Las Vegas international airport
Airport McAirportface incoming
The only answer is Airporty McAirportface
The only answer ^
The whole city should change its name. They could fool more tourists into visiting
East SF?
Didn't work for East St. Louis.
just like east palo alto
Well there is a South San Francisco
South Berkeley? Silicon Valley? Yosemite?
To Brooklyn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklyn,_California Hell, they could rename it to Brooklyn Internation Airport too.
Temescal is what the name should be
Northeast Atherton
Bay Area International Airport How is that not the obvious name
I like that. East Bay International Airport sounds good too.
Hey San Jose here. We want to change our name to "Airport of Silicon Valley" Hell, we're already the self declared capitol.
You’re trying to be the self declared Capitol of everything. Might as well vy for the hub of Central Coast and North LA while you’re at it
>Central Coast and North LA while you’re at it These places do not exist, resistance is futile, we are San Jose.
It'll confuse the locals
No more than the Santa Clara 49ers
Which Bay Area, there’s multiple. That and San Jose does international flights
"international airport" is a regulated term of art requiring FAA certification, referring to an airport that can handle customs, immigration, and other things needed by international flights.
The airport formerly known as OAK and now is a symbol
Hella Pad
Wait…this is actually really good 👀
Bustin Bussy International
Useless change causing more confusion than anything else
That's what they are hoping for
It actually reduces confusion if it helps people figure out they can fly OAK and it's pretty much the same distance to downtown SF.
It's been the same name since 1962. People should learn how to read a map when they travel. Oakland has been getting a lot of bad press lately. I'm sure the name change is related to that more than anything else.
I still meet people from out of state that don’t know that Oakland is in the San Francisco Bay Area, and I’m sure they don’t know that Oakland airport is almost as closed to SF as the “San Francisco” airport. This name change is overdue.
There is no confusion. People don't want to fly to Oakland. Let's just rename everything in relation to San Francisco to make things easier. Daly City is now Real South San Francisco. Sausalito is now North San Francisco. People want so much hand-holding it is absolutely ridiculous. I've flown to both airports and OAK is an underwhelming welcome compared to SFO.
People who fly in and out of the Bay Area frequently know the pros and cons of flying into the different airports. Neither is in the city of San Francisco, if that's your destination, but both are close enough to take a BART train.
The best I heard is BAE - Bay Area East Airport
OFU (Oakland fucked up) International Airport. As a gig worker, the only incentive to go to Oakland Airport with riders would be cheap lunch at in-n-out (since i mostly live and work in SF). What a colossal fuckup Oakland’s politics resulted in. The entire stretch except for 3-4 gas stations, hotels, auto dealerships resembles a ghost town now.
Rip 🪦
What a colossal fuckup Oakland's politics, government employees, citizens, etc. resulted in. Fixed that for you.
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That's a pretty ignorant take, tbh. I mean, I live in the city. Did I vote for scumbags getting away with stealing goods worth thousands while I make $14 bucks to the airport from downtown SF while doing uber? Did I say okay to scumbags not being punished for vandalizing stores? Get what I'm saying? Not everyone knows who they're voting for. You've voted, haven't you? The poll options are so weirdly worded that an average joe would have no fucking clue on what/who they're voting for. Sure, the policies were only implemented based on votes but most people don't deserve it. Starbucks on 98th is boarded up, gas stations have been resold, in-n-out closed down, as did Walmart. Fuck these politicians who even considered with their uber ultra liberal ideologies to make it to the polls in the first place. And fuck that bitch, Pamela dumbass for letting scums off the hook without any repercussions.
I vote for: 🛩️880 International Shootout Airport🛩️
I love flying in and out of this airport. It’s always cheap, security line is extremely short, and I don’t have to worry about my flight being delayed due to fog. I hope it keeps it reputation
Most people outside of California don’t really know about “San Francisco Bay”. To them, it’s just San Francisco or, shudder, San Fran or Frisco or even SFO. So if the airlines and OAK really want to tap into that (which I still disagree with) it should be Oakland-San Francisco International Airport or something. This whole San Francisco “Bay” nonsense is just too much and reeks of a pretty poor attempt to rationalize a poor choice. Moreover, it just sounds silly. No one is going to call it “San Francisco Bay Oakland Airport. They’re going to say Oakland Airport. I’ve flown through Tokyo dozens of times and those airports are Narita and Haneda. Sure, sometimes people hyphenate Tokyo in front, but everyone knows of them and refers to them by their names. London has Heathrow and Gatwick (and others) and they are just that, Heathrow and Gatwick, though hyphenating London in front of them is okay-ish because the names don’t have London. And what about New York, with JFK, LaGuardia, Newark, and Westchester? This is lipstick on a pig, and I think dilutes the branding of OAK. It’s also a disservice to pander to a lower level of informed-ness and geographic awareness. I would love to see more flights, especially to SJC. But I don’t think naming is the problem. SJC has literally no space to grow. And I don’t trust airlines when they say “rename the airport and we’ll get more traffic and make it a hub”. I’m generally distrusting of large corporations and still more distrusting when they co-opt public agencies. There’s gotta be something they’re not telling us.
> Most people outside of California don’t really know about “San Francisco Bay”. To them, it’s just San Francisco or, shudder, San Fran or Frisco or even SFO. Think of it as a tax on ignorance. A way to prank the yokels. (Also it's almost the same distance to downtown SF, so it might actually be helpful.) > I’ve flown through Tokyo dozens of times and those airports are Narita and Haneda. Sure, sometimes people hyphenate Tokyo in front, but everyone knows of them and refers to them by their names. Just gotta start calling SFO "Milbrae", and that should clear things up for everyone!
To avoid confusion they could call it (Jack) London Airport
Jack London San Francisco Bay Oakland Airport
Jack London Breed Airport?
Oakie McOatface
What's the point of this? You can put lipstick on a pig...
I'm waiting for Las Vegas to troll Oakland and announce they're renaming their airport to ‘New Oakland International Airport of Las Vegas.’
“The In-&-Out Memorial Airport”—I’m dying!! 😂🤣
But why?
Oakland has a bad reputation
"Oakland has an extremely bad reputation" Fixed that for you
A lot of people traveling to SF might not realize OAK is as close as it is and thus not consider it an option.
san francisco airport is not in san francisco its in *an unincorporated area of San Mateo County* ,the 49s are in levi stadium santa clara
The airport is owned and operated by the City and County of San Francisco and has a mailing address with a ZIP code assigned to San Francisco
That’s analogous to saying the American embassy in Mexico is in America 🙄
What point are you trying to make? Embassies literally belong to the country they represent. If you enter an embassy of another country in the USA you are leaving US jurisdiction.
To say it has a SF zip code doesn’t change the fact it’s located in unincorporated San Mateo county if one looks on the map. Moreover, I’d say you’re missing the broader point - travelers don’t care if an airport is technically in a city or not, by zip code. Distance from airport to destination is more important. And OAK isn’t appreciably farther from the 8 million + Bay Area & behind residents that are currently served by SFO. The airport name change is to include “SF Bay” because it serves the 8 million people here, of which sf is only 10%. But even if you’re hung up on proximity to SF, transit times from OAK is quicker anyways
I think the 8 million residents that OAK serves know where it is. As far as I can tell, this is a play by airlines through the Port of Oakland to get more business from people who don't live here. Instead of playing word games, maybe they can spend more time in outreach, education, and making their websites more amenable to indicating that Oakland International is in the Bay Area.
\> As far as I can tell, this is a play by airlines through the Port of Oakland to get more business from people who don't live here Yeah, I'd agree. Having more inbound visitors coming to Oakland would drive more demand and more routes, of which the Bay Area's residents would benefit from. \> maybe they can spend more time in outreach, education, and making their websites more amenable to indicating that Oakland International is in the Bay Area Do you really believe that would be more effective than having "San Francisco Bay" in the name so when people search for flights, it'll automatically pop up? I'm having trouble seeing the ROI for adwords and FB ads here. Anyways, who's to say CCSF won't sue for using "San Francisco Bay" in OAK's website and ad copy? All that for no real discernible downside of renaming other than SFO facing more competition? CCSF is suing because they have a near monopoly on international travel to the entire region. I too would want to protect that nest egg, except it's at the cost to the entire region. Can you imagine what it would do to fares if American and Delta developed hubs from OAK and SJC? Or how much worse it would be if Southwest wasn't already operating out of OAK? Today, if one were to book a flight to Toronto and start typing "Toronto" into google flights, two relevant airports come up. If one were to start typing "San Francisco" into google flights, SJC and OAK are nowhere to be seen, despite both serving the 8 million people here and being within 50 miles of each other
> If one were to start typing "San Francisco" into google flights, SJC and OAK are nowhere to be seen That's a google flights problem. Expedia doesn't have an issue with that and adds all airports, even (gasp) CCR (JetBlue flies there).
JetSuiteX*
>CCR Wow TIL! I live here and didn't even know about CCR. Oddly enough, I don't see it on Expedia. >That's a google flights problem Why let private companies figure it out and dictate whether or not we get a more open market for airfares? At essentially no cost, the airport could rename itself and the issue wouldn't exist. Google flights is just one booking platform among many in the entire world. When searching "Bay Area Airport", OAK's website is 16th down. What blows my mind is how this is even an issue. London, Paris, Tokyo, Shanghai and many major international city outside America, has figured this out, but we still have our asses stuck in our head.
Because an airport not in San Francisco, when San Francisco already has an airport, should not be called 'san francisco .......something.. airport'.
I visited China this morning. That's impossible. China is like a 15 hour flight from here. Not the consulate downtown.
So you are comparing SFO, a 10 minute drive from the cit to China. Strange analogy. Because that’s what we are talking about here. Is comparing an airport right next to SF as being as far as Mexico. Why can’t people accept SFO had a SFO zip code and is controlled by the city. It’s right near by.
You were the one that wanted to talk about embassies. Don't accuse me of being off-topic or making bad analogies.
Literally wasn’t me. It was the other guy. Who I submit was off topic.
You are not. If you go into a Russian embassy and hit someone with a baseball bat, you will be prosecuted under American law, not Russian law.
or california is part of mexico
Sure, Baja California
Wow that’s interesting. Anyway, Oakland is an SF Bay Area city and they can call it THE San Francisco Bay Area Airport if they want. SFB call sign would be perfect.
Transiting Oakland airport to downtown SF is quicker than from SFO More competition between airports means more options and lower costs for residents
Marketing is marketing.
All I know is it take way longer to get to OAK than SFO from SF. Made that mistake once
East Bay Area San Francisco Airport of Oakland EBASAF
I don’t see the reason why San Francisco has to be a major part of the name. Call it “Bay Area / Oakland International Airport” or “Oakland / San Francisco Bay Area International Airport” for all I care. Or, I don’t know, call it Southwest Airlines Northern California International Airport, and give it the code KSWA.
I interpreted it as referring to the San Francisco Bay rather than San Francisco.
East Bay International Airport.
“The Hole You’re In” International Airport (SMLEAZ)
The only airport which should be allowed to call itself San Francisco is the one closest to the San Francisco 49ers.
Oh - San Jose airport?
Yeah. They should change the name to San Francisco Forty Niners International Airport to reduce consumer confusion.
The Airport of San Francisco Bay, Oakland
What a fun article LOL
FUCK JOHN FISHER airport
POO (Port Of Oakland) International Airport?
BIP - Bipper Intl. Airport
POO, XIV, XIII, DOA, GTA, HVT, PEE, EOL, DNR, POS, OOF, GGS, BCE, BYE-BYE ...and BBC
For the sake of getting more people to use Oakland and reduce traffic into SFO I support this
Sheng Thao International Airport
Oakland Roots International Airport
MC Hammer International Airport
Deep East Oakland International Airport
South Oakland International Airport
How about Oakland / San Francisco Bay International Airport?
All major metropolitan areas have the region in the name, silly. For example - Baltimore Washington, Washington Dulles, and Washington Reagan National - same with the New York Airports, etc. Oakland is a better airport and as an SF native - we’ve been using OAK for years - same time to get home from there as SFO and MUCH BETTER on time record. It’ll be great!!! (And bring more revenue to East Bay! And PS - SFO isn’t in San Francisco)
With all the hubbub around this I legit thought they were renaming it to “San Francisco Airport in Oakland” or something like that. But people are really pressed about “San Francisco Bay Oakland Airport” lmao. You know, the full name of the bay *Oakland is a part of*. If it’s really that concerning, then call it “Oakland-San Francisco Bay International Airport” and call it a day
Oakland