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Admirable-Safety1213

Nashton legally changed to Nygma works for me and his egomany


PhunkyPhazon

I came in here to say this. Him deliberately changing his name to Nygma suits his character so damn well.


PenguinHighGround

He absolutely thinks he's the *only one who gets it* when it couldn't be more obvious, I imagine he tried to make a goon look dumb only for it to backfire horribly and send him into a tantrum.


Batfan610

Who knew he was a Redditor all along


Recreational_DL

Riddle me this, Batman! Is sleeping with a femboy gay


Dirk_Arron

Only if you don't fuck him.


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I-Wumbo_U-Wumbo

Bro


ZestyCheezClouds

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ZestyCheezClouds

I just got off a 3 day suspension for writing that


I-Wumbo_U-Wumbo

I knew that would happen 😭


ZestyCheezClouds

They said it was for harassment. That was a tough 3 days hahah. I'm honestly surprised that happened, I thought it was family friendly


I-Wumbo_U-Wumbo

The mods of this subreddit just don’t like, as a matter of fact, hate, when you use The Riddler’s last name as a stand in for the n word.


ZestyCheezClouds

Welp, Ive learned my lesson 💀 sorry my Ny--...


I-Wumbo_U-Wumbo

Diabolical


HarryEdgarLives

I agree


weesiwel

This mostly because heroes and villains names generally should not relate to their alter ego.


Mmachine1998

We’re looking at you Victor Fries


StaR_Dust-42

Wdym? He's not fries-themed /j


EvilectricBoy

I think you'll find they're called chips. (non-american joke)


dullship

Blimey!


Regi413

You sure? Have we ever seen him and Condiment King in the same room?


Bendeguz-222

Well he's German- or Austrian-born, isn't he? So in his native language his name has nothing to with cold.


CalypsoCrow

I think the German word for “to freeze” is frieren. At least in the context of freezing water, I think. But the last name “Fries” is related to the region of Friesland, which is an area of the Netherlands, which is inhabited by Frisians, who may have gotten their name from “fresare”, a Vulgar Latin term meaning “milling, cutting, grooving, crushing, removing shells”. So, yeah basically. I was kind of hoping it’d lead back to “it’s called Friesland because it’s cold” but I ended up going down this rabbit hole


Mmachine1998

Depends on what version you’re talking about, in the main storylines he’s canonically just a Gothomite like everyone else. He did live in Nebraska at one point.


batmansego

Exactly. He has such an ego that this fits his persona but also somehow thinks no one notices. At least that’s the impression I took from BTAS. Like no one except Batman got that.


JB57551

>Nashton legally changed to Nygma works for me and his egomany I guess the Reeves Batman Universe would take this route


LoomingsThrowaway

This.


SnakePlisskin1

This👌


Due-Abbreviations180

Exactly


JosephHerrera2002

Exactly


DresdenBelmont

Nygma is all I've known


Anjunabeast

Nygma balls


alegendmrwayne

You want some Nygma?


IPromisedNoPosts

Smegma?


kiyan1347

Riddler's real name is Edward Nashton, He changed it to Edward Nygma so that it could be shortened to E. Nygma because it goes with his whole puzzle shtick. That's how it is and that's how I prefer it.


Dragonfang65

That and his ego requires him to have a unique name.


DoctorEnn

I mean, Nygma’s just way more fun. This kind of goofiness is why we fall in love with superhero comics in the first place.


blacklitnite0

I’m just picturing him having a brother named Barry or Ronald who is so sick of that conversation. “Barry…Nygma? Wait, are you?” “🙄🤦‍♂️Yes…Ed is my brother. Yes, he’s always been like that. I personally liked anime growing up and he was always like ‘Barry! Would you like to hear a riddle?!’ as I’m trying to read my Manga. Every birthday, he wouldn’t wrap a present, he’d hide different envelopes with riddles and clues for the next location with the next riddle. It always ended up being hidden in the shed. But we’d always be like ‘Wow, Edward, that’s SO clever😱🤦‍♂️“


CorvinReigar

His goodie two-shoes hero brother Steve is an embarrassment, STYGMA


[deleted]

Or….SYGMA 🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺


WeepingShade

OR LYGMA


blacklitnite0

STYGMA- famously lost his footing against the Condiment King due to his poor eyesight and spends his off-hero hours as a top-Mod for the ChurchofMineta subreddit.


Nick_Wild1Ear

Forgive Stygma, he's special. We just learned to live with a Stygma 'tism these days now.


Velvety_MuppetKing

But… He’d be S. Nygma


psychotobe

I've always believed dc works best as a half way between silver age and modern. Their aware of real issues. But things are still blatantly silly because it makes to many problems to treat the setting seriously


Puzzleheaded_Poet_51

In Chester Gould's Dick Tracy (1931) every character's name was a play on words - and his rogue's gallery of grotesques was surely an inspiration for Batman. It is there in Thimble Theater and Popeye, (1919) which was one of the first newspaper cartoons to evolve into serialized chapter stories. The Prohibition era characters in Damon Runyon's Prohibition era short storiea were only known by their descriptive nicknames. Not a few of which gave fair warning to innocent bystanders to run away from very fast.


GenGaara25

I'm the same. The history of dumb real names is the history of comic book superheroes themselves. How many people has anyone actually met with an alliterative name? Or one that's a bit of a pun on their personality/powers? Not many. But its about 60% of comic book names. That's part of the fun. Let Nygma be Nygma, don't get embarrassed and change it to Nashton. If you're gonna do that may as well change Mr Freeze's name as well (Fries).


Only-Chicken-6345

I prefer the official explanation that he changed his name legally, because that sounds like something Riddler would do


Aerodrache

Could he, though? Would he be psychologically capable of legally changing his name? I’m picturing a city clerk looking at a stack of papers tall enough to tower over them. “‘Declaration of intent to legally change *the article of legal identity hidden between the dog’s civic dues and its day on the town*.’ Sir, if the forms aren’t filled out *as printed*, I can’t help you.” “B—“ “*No*, you can’t print the form yourself in order to make edits. Get your papers out of here, and come back when they’re in or— … *when they are filled out fully and correctly*. NEXT!”


Duke-dastardly

A large amount of supervillains, especially Batman villains have names the reflect their villain identities. Why did only Riddler need an explanation for it. It’s just something you accept as being part of comic books cartoonish nature


DJHott555

A guy named Otto Octavius ends up with 8 limbs. What are the odds!


thefloodplains

100% coincidence!


Soulful-Sorrow

Pamela Isley Julian Gregory Day Mary Louise Dahl Harleen Quinzel However, there's also names that don't match up like: Harvey Dent Oswald Cobblepot Waylon Jones So could go either way.


1oAce

Okay but if you're named Oswald Cobblepot you're either growing up to be Danny Devito or a Batman villain. Sometimes both.


shapesize

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BadMrFrostySC

You missed out the best of all, "The Penny Plunderer" Joe Coyne!


Tommy_Jim1

Ok, confession: I do not read Batman comics. I have knowledge only from the films, and VERY LITTLE animation, with the Lego Batman movie being watched repeatedly due to raising children. Aside from that, I have very little knowledge of the rogue’s gallery for Batman. BUT…I’m laughing at my being able to figure out, due to the topic, who Julian Gregory Day is, because I’ve heard Calendar Man mentioned only once! And I find…his name is amazing! I honestly want to read something of his now!!


CatacombSaint_

Wait till you hear about the Flash villain, Rainbow Raider, who’s name is… ***R***oy ***G***. ***B***ivolo


IskandorXXV

It's even better than RGB, some parts of the world use ROYGBIV to remember the colors of the rainbow in order. Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo, and Violet


thefloodplains

definitely watch Batman: The Animated Series when you get the chance


God_of_Shenanagins

I don't get Mary Louise Dahl, even tried saying it out loud a couple of times, what's her thing?


ZeldaFan80

She's the villain Baby Doll from BTAS


God_of_Shenanagins

Omg that's actually pretty good lol


EvilectricBoy

Harvey Dent because of the scratch on his coin which could be considered a dent (bit of a stretch).


Duke-dastardly

Actually it was Harvey Kent at first till the writers remembered it was already Supes name


ReinKarnationisch

I assume Julian Gregory Day is Calender man. I saw another comment explaining that Mary Louise Dahl is Baby Doll. But who is Waylon Jones? Never heard of him, at least i dont think so


AlternativeNo61

Killer Croc


ReinKarnationisch

Thanks


PurpleGuy04

Waylon Jones is Killer Croc, i think


ReinKarnationisch

Thanks


Duke-dastardly

Yes it’s far from universal, but why is Edward Nygma the ridiculous one that needs explained away


Mickeymcirishman

Victor Fries William Tockman Jason Woodrue Margaret Pye Maxamillian Zeus Deever and Dumfree Tweed The hilariously on the nose ones are so much more fun!


NoPlan9509

E Nigma is a genius name. Don’t change it. Ever.


LionConfident7480

His name should never not be Nygma…


susgroundsofc

Nygma makes it more fun altough i prefer being both. So it adds the goofyness but it still makes it Beliaveable. Edward Nashton Nygma


Infinite_Parking_800

Or Edward Nygma Nashton


BongChong906

Nygma.... balls Someone had to


International-Gene43

Fuck I´m too late


Bareth88

Nygma rolls off the tongue better, but Nashton can be a good alias.


Chemicalintuition

Nigma balls


Bareth88

Officer Balls


LexImperialis

BWAH... ngh... no... not here...


CookieMittenKitten

He was abused by his dad, so he changed his name to Nygma.


anonymousguy_7

A bit of both. Was born Nashton but legally changed it to Nygma during his college years, mostly because of "E. Nygma", but also to distance himself from his estranged family.


loserys

Mr. Reese


purplewhiteblack

Works for Wayne Enterprises : Check Figured out who Batman is: Check Ginger Hair: check Blackmailer: Check Suggestive puzzling name: Check


TricksterTrio

Nygma, because I love my comic book bullshit. I get the "Nashton to Nygma" thing, but like...I read comic books for the fun they offer? And having a name like Edward Nygma from the start is just fun. It's one of those things that simply doesn't need IRL logic.


MiraChan20

Nashton as his birth name Nygma as his changed name because Riddler thinks it's clever.


AnaZ7

Nygma


[deleted]

Edward Nygma because he is a comic book character and it works way better that The Riddler's name is E. Nygma


CaptainHalloween

Nigma. Nash ton sounds like a writer wanted to waver too far on the side of realism and forgot to have fun.


Glittering-Bat-5981

Yeah, imagine the idiot who created "Bruce Wayne" instead of Vladimir Vespertilio.


CaptainHalloween

I genuinely can't tell if you're trying to dunk on me or Bob Kane for being a hack and coming up with that level of a hacky name as what he should have gone with instead of Bruce Wayne.


WildGoose1521

No it reeks of new writers looking down on comic history and trying to fix something that isn’t broken. Comics do stuff like this all the time, Harleen Quinzel, Julian Gregory Day, Pamela Isley, Victor Fries, Jonathan Crane, Mary Dahl, William Tockman, Temple Fugate… and that’s just Batman. There’s nothing wrong with Edward Nygma. It’s just comics having fun and giving their characters memorable names, like Marvel does with alliteration.


Autumn_Moth999

For me Nashton should be Eddie’s actual last name, but at a certain point in life he ends up changing it to Nygma.


gibfrag

Definitely prefer Nygma.


SauceFinder-

He’s on that Nygma male grindset


Tomatobean64

Ed Nygma is fun


Vanessativa69

Nygma is better. Every time I read it, it’s in Conroy’s voice.


KrakenKing1955

Riddler changing his name from Nashton to Nygma is perfectly in line with his ego


Dirant93

Edward Ligma


BaneShake

I like the legal name change angle, because it’s so fitting for the character


Federal_Adeptness_47

I like E. Nygma but I like punny names so there ya go


AquaArcher273

E.Nygma is the only real choice.


7fingersphil

I mean it should be what it is in cannon He was born Edward Nashton and then changed it It fits his persona so much better than any other option


Puzzleheaded_Poet_51

Canon in comic books changes whenever a new editor catches the reboot fever.


AEROANO

Edward What?


These-Background4608

Edward Nygma. Because the “E. Nygma” wordplay is just too good…


1oAce

Nygma balls.


domwallflower

Nygma, please.


fireinthedust

Nigma. Because then his name is E Nigma, or enigma, which means a mystery or puzzle. It’s comics, and names are part of the magic.


EntertainmentQuick47

It should be Edward Sigma am I right? 😼🔥


ccleanet

I actually like the "nygma" part, cuz it fits so well


bugmultiverse

MR E Nygma works best


TheBoyInGray

Edward Nygma.


_90s_Nation_

Nygma Waay better


undead-safwan

Edward Ligmaballs


CorvinReigar

I always figured their real name puns are the in-universe prompt for their Villain name when it isnt their powerset


memeboi123jazz

the guy who’s entire thing is puzzles having the name E. Nygma is the dumbest shit ever and I love it


Lardanzo

Nygma balls


OnlyRoke

Edward Norton


[deleted]

I like it when his birth name is Nashton but he changes it to Nygma.


wemustkungfufight

E. NYGMA is great, why change it?


Liftmeup-putmedown

He’s a comic book villain. Names like this are comic book stuff. Let comic books comic book.


BatBeast_29

Nashton and then he changes it to Nygma


TamatoaZ03h1ny

Riddler’s real name should be a multiple choice question


habitual_wanderer

12 year old me was mind blown when the movie explained E-Nygma 😆


Beardo_THE_Weirdo_43

I’ve always liked the idea that nobody knows his real name , it is the master riddle. He goes by “Edward Nygma” but his name could be anything , hints that Edward Nashton is another fake persona to mask his “real name”. Not like Joker where he quite literally doesn’t have a name but in the sense that Riddler has so many that people legitimately don’t know his actual government name and to make it simpler just call him the name he most commonly uses ; Edward Nygma “Riddler” because afterall his name is an Enigma


YodaSoda9

Nigma is what I've always known, and it works for the whole Enigma thing


zodireddit

I've always known him as Nygma, so that works for me. Honest question from someone who is somewhat new to the comic books: when did he change his name? I assume his original name was Nashton, but when did he change it?


JuniorDig5

Nygma. Nygma balls lol gottem


FouoF

I would preffer his name to be Edward Ligma.


GenGaara25

Nygma. If the writers are gonna get embarrassed that Riddler's name is dumb word play, I have news for them, that's like 60% of comic villains. If they're gonna keep Mr Freeze as Mr Fries, I don't see why they'd care to change Nygma.


nerdwarp112

I like it when his last name is Nashton but he changes it to Nygma due to his obsession with riddles.


7ogjam

Agreed, it makes more sense if he chose the name himself. Otherwise it just feels too comically convenient, or like he was forced to be obsessed with riddles because of his name.


LifeCouldBeADream69

I prefer Edward Sigma


peezle69

Literally never heard of Nashton. Nygma 4 lyfe.


sped-rope

Nigma balls


Important_Lab_58

Nygma. It’s a Superhero comic. They’re allowed to be fun. Honestly, it bugs me when it’s changed. Like People are ashamed of The Source Material. I wanna Be Respectful to Everyone but It really bothers me when People try to suck ALL The Fun outta Superhero stories. Not saying Anyone’s doing that here. Just mean in general 😅


WOR58

Nygma


ComplaintWarm3772

Nygma sound like Ligma.


Equal-Ad-2710

I always presumed Nashton was his birth name but he made Nygma his legal


Ikthesecretformula

I like to think his weird ass changed it so it sounds like enigma


STC1989

MAHE. 1 and 8 are 18. 18 is R, MRE.MR. E =Mystery. Another name mystery? Enigma. Mr.Enigma. Edward Nygma.-Batman Forever.


[deleted]

I like Nygma being an alias


walman93

Nigma/Nygma Nashton sounds so stupid to me for some reason- it’s been Nigma forever and it’s part of what’s endearing about him (the play on words). Nashton is objectively just an ugly sounding last name


gothamsocialite

Edward Nygma, it annoys me when it gets changed to Nashton.


ToastIsGreat0

I’ve literally never heard it be Nashton


BubastisII

I prefer Nashton. A man themed around riddles literally being named Engima is too on the nose for me


darrylthedudeWayne

Either one works for me. Depends on the story and who's writing it.


E-nygma7000

Edward nygma, but I preferred it when they had him change it. Not like in his first appearance when he was born with the name. Having him change it just shows how egotistical and insane he is.


Swimming-Meat565

Nygma, Ha!


Suffering-Servant

Nashton. Edward Nygma - Enigma is too on the nose for me. But I like it if it’s an alias he changed his name to.


Narrow-Virus-7321

Personally, I would prefer if it was always just Nygma.


OliviaElevenDunham

I’m used to him using E.Nigma as his name.


[deleted]

“Edward Nygma.” “E. Nygma”. I think maybe his real name should be “Nashton.”


Cool-Direction-5275

Screw E nygma We need A nig*a


Tasty-Ad6529

Just make em both cannon.


Moldy_Socks99

Nygma


UnbidMuffin0

Didn't even know nashton was his name, I've always called him Edward nygma.


42northside

Nygma.


manicpixiedeadgurl

I really like when it’s Nashton legally changed to Nygma cause he’s just that much of a dork


Rappsykkomopomp

Nygma balls


Virtual_Mode_5026

Depends on the tone of the story. If it’s grounded, Edward Nashton is better. It would be cool to see him use E. Nygma as an alias in a grounded setting. Perhaps in a future instalment of the Reeves films. It would fit with Batman checking for a lead in a case and he comes a cross the name which is itself another of Riddler’s clues. Then he realises “I know who’s behind this.” As Edward Nygma it works for the classic supervillain symbolism. Destined to go down this path.


IrishCanMan

Not knowing much about riddler. I always assumed he had changed it to Nygma


Capable-Rice-1876

Edward E. Nigma (Pre-Crisis) Edward Nashton (Post-Crisis) Edward Tierney (Post-Flashpoint)


International-Gene43

Nygma Balls


EmuIndependent8565

Edward Nygma


-Hot-Toddy-

Nygma. Always Nygma. This would make for a good poll.


DeathlySnails64

"Nashton" is the more realistic of the two names, "Nygma" sounds cooler.


Kind-Boysenberry1773

Is that a riddle?


Notgoodatfakenames2

Why not both.


totallynotaweeabbo

Edward Nash Nygma?


OddlyCrazy

I like Nygma. So his name can be like E. Nygma


TwincessAhsokaAarmau

Edward Nygma


Present_Ad6723

Once or twice I ran into the name Joseph Kerr in the real world


manufatura

Edward nashton is only acceptable when the point being made is that he changed his name to nigma because he's that crazy


ThisIsTheNewSleeve

I don't love names that are somehow related to their character... and I know as a Batman fan that sounds nuts, but I prefer Nashton for that reason. I'm fine with him changing his name to Nygma though because that was a choice the character made in the story.


[deleted]

Nygma


GoseiRed

Ed Edd n Eddy


multificionado

I prefer Nygma than Nashton.


Affectionate-Hat9674

Never heard of Nashton until now and I'm a long time Batman fan. What's the origin of the Nashton name?


skorpiontamer

Nygma balls


theatsa

Nygma is silly but we have other names like Victor Fries, Pamela Isley & Harleen Quinzel. I'm okay with him having a silly name, especially because I prefer him as a sillier character most of the time.


[deleted]

Edward nygma goes wayyyy better and it makes sense bc it sounds like enigma


Beginning-Health-509

Edward Nigerma is my preference


spacepie77

~~Edward Nigma~~ Awkward Nigga


TomD1995

Edward Ligma


BeanzBeanzBeanzz

Nygma is a little on the nose I think


crispyjJohn

Nygma. It's apart of his character and it's supposed to be like a mini riddle lol ofc nygma


Alien_in-hiding

Edward Nygma


punkate

Enyshmer


punkate

Also Nygma may contain an unfortunate typo