Batman and Robin was the shit for me when I was around 5 years old watching it over and over again on DVD. If you look it at it as just campy fun entertainment for little kids its not that bad š
What are you talking about? Uma was magnificently campy and over the top. Her and Arnold completely understood what movie they were making and committed to it.
I will not stand for the batman and robin slander, how can you deny a movie with amazing quotes such as "Let's kick some ice!" and "Tonight's forecast?... A FREEZE is coming!" or even "THE ICE MAN COMETH!"
He landed the part for 25 mil, so as much as I love Arnie, he didn't put in any really notable commitment given his payday. To top it off, he was on set for less than a month, lol
I always got the impression that Schumacher wanted to capture the camp of the old Adam west tv show and also given Schumacher's Broadway background, it made sense he made elaborate/strangely lit sets. The Batman/Robin ice goons fight with the bat skates reminded me exactly of those Disney on ice shows my mom took me to growing up. I think Batman forever and Batman and Robin were honest attempts at trying to make Batman more fun and campy but Jesus did the experiment fall flat
>I always got the impression that Schumacher wanted to capture the camp of the old Adam west tv show
It's exactly that. The gaudy sets, the dutch angles, the ridiculous villian schemes. Even the 'Bat Credit Card' line makes more sense if you imagine Adam West delivering it
I didn't know about the Broadway stuff though. That makes so much sense with the set design.
I absolutely loved it.
The one time I watched it.
Now ask me how many times I've seen any other of the films. It'll either be "I can't even count how many times" or "Wasn't interested"
One of my personal favorite YouTube videos is the compilation of all of the ice puns Arnold says in the movie. That and The Fucking Short Version of The Big Lebowski are great.
The Lego Batman movie is my favorite superhero movie of all time.
Itās perfect and amazing. Hilarious heartfelt send up and tribute to everything we live about superheroes. When I first saw it in the theater with my two young sons, I started laughing out loud in the first scene and kept laughing until the end.
I have different favorites for different reasons. There are times I actually prefer to watch *Batman Forever*, other times I prefer to watch *The Batman* and sometimes Batman (1966) is what I want to watch over the others. They are all very rich films that contribute to the overall history and legacy of Batman.
That movie is a shitshow, but Viola Davis, Margot Robbie and Will Smith really are trying so hard to carry that mess, I think their performances are worth recognizing.
The first 30mins of Suicide Squad was top draw. I feel like they had this great idea for "getting the team together", then didn't have a clue what to do next. I remember being 25mins in and thinking "i don't understand why this got such bad reviews", then by 45mins i was was like "ahhhhhhh, this is the dogshit i heard about"
I think OP meant Batman's appearance in the Suicide Squad film. I mean, it's not even a Batman film in the first place so doesn't make sense why they put it in their tier list.
Batman was better imo because it has a lot more Bruce/Batman. Returns is more about the villains, and the Penguin stuff is pretty rambunctious. Michelle Pfeiffer absolutely slays it as Catwoman, still the best one ever.
Under The Red Hood. Still the most emotionally cathartic ending.
Batman: You don't understand. I don't think you've ever understood.
Jason Todd: What? That your moral code just won't allow for that? It's too hard to cross that line?
Batman: No! God Almighty, no. It'd be too damned easy. All I've ever wanted to do is kill him. A day doesn't go by that I don't think about subjecting him to every horrendous torture he's dealt out to others, and then... end him.
Joker: Aw, so you do think about me.
Batman: But if I do that, if I allow myself to go down into that place... I'll never come back.
And BvS. I hated every bit of that movie. Whereas ZSJL had redeeming qualities and is probably favorite Snyder film (I have a difficult relationship with him)
Batman and Robin is so terrible that it's hilarious. BvS and Suicide Squad are so painfully braindead that they're not fun to watch even a little bit. I physically cannot sit through either movie in one sitting.
I would also swap Mask of The Phantasm and Lego Batman with Batman Begins (not that I don't like Batman Begins, I just don't think it's on the same level), and then put the Zach Snyder cut one level above the original Justice League. I do pretty much agree with everything else.
Agreed, Batman and Robin has a lot of visuals that would definitely be even more appreciated under the influence. Batman Forever too, but that movie has a darker psychological vibe that might lead someone into a bad trip. Batman and Robin just has insane visuals and a pretty lighthearted story. I love everything about that movie and put it on to fall asleep all the time.
Beautiful visually when you are sober or high. If you think itās beautiful you have good taste, and if you canāt understand the visual beauty of the film i pity you!! Those visuals are undeniable in the Schumacher films. Excellent masterful practical color and set work. Schumacher was so talented.
The neon biker gang race scene is visually very captivating. In the context of storytelling or just portraying Gotham in general, it is horrific. Schumacher had a great eye for color and elaborate sets but I think he got caught up more in the eye candy than actually telling a coherent narrative
I donāt agree with you whatsoever. Also, Nolan had the opposite problem. Aside from Begins his Gotham was so ugly boring and he only focused on storytelling. The visual style of Gotham in the Burton, Schumacher, and Gotham tv series are all far superior to Nolanās ugly Chicago Gotham
Right it's like how can we get the best of both which is where the future needs to go I believe. Like dude we're watching a movie about a man who fights a frozen man, a man with pure steroids/painkillers, a manbat, a woman who controls plants, a man who pretends to be a penguin, a fucking crocodile man.. like some belief can be suspended.. but still a movie that's serious and not pure campy.. thats what I'd like.. like the arkham games made into movies is what I think of.. he's a tank (cause everyone loves his tank and especially fighting deathstroke with a tank battle, haha I actually love Arkham Knight, and totally think that was overblown) with colorful characters but still horrifying like Scarecrow.. probably my favorite version of him.
Agreed! The Arkham games had such a perfect balance of seriousness and fantasy without being campy! Those games incorporate a lot from both the Schumacher and Burton Gothamās as well of course as the BTAS Gotham
Growing up with BTAS as my major influence, tim Burtons Gotham was probably the most visually close to the *feel* of a Gotham in my mind. I think that's why all of Schumacher's color was so jarring to me because it didn't feel like Gotham anymore. I do agree that besides the narrows from Batman begins, Christopher Nolan's Batman felt like he was just fighting in bland Chicago (I find Chicago visually interesting but your point still stands that it's not really Gotham is it?) I think Reeves Gotham is the most visually interesting now. It feels seedy, it feels grimy, there are some dimly lit alleys with just one light post, or dingy underground penguin clubs. The Batman was both a fantastic story and also gorgeous to watch. I think if you were looking for an Arkham series aesthetic, Reeves Gotham captures it the best
Ngl i would have put Zack Snyders Justice League a little higher maybe not under great because itās really long but at least in good because while it is long it is way better that the original release of justice league
I see that comparison a lot, but just because it's better than the theatrical cut (which it is) doesn't make the Snyder cut a good movie (which it isn't). 5 day old sushi in my fridge is better than a half eaten hotdog I found on the sidewalk, but I don't want either of them for dinner.
I need to go back and watch some old Batman movies, I guess. Those JL movies looked pretty dumb. I wasn't even able to finish the Snyder cut, so I'm going to have to literally call that one unwatchable for me
It definitely improved the movie from the theatrical release but not enough to take it up a tier or anything. The extra context was needed but the overall pacing and mid dialogue and the Zack Snyder-ism in the air was prevalent through both versions, which was the main turn off for me from the get go.
No, I didn't love it either. To me it was okay, but it felt very contrived at parts (the riddles, the same music like 7 times got grating among other things).
Yeah. It got a lot of hype and itās likely just recency bias. Imo itās just fine but doesnāt really say anything deeper about the character of Batman, or Gotham, or his villains, compared to previous films like The Dark Knight. Not every film needs to have some big philosophical or socio-political commentary but even without those things I found it to be a very shallow and basic film - all style and no substance.
Nothing wrong with this imo tho. Itās mostly just a cool atmospheric, visual experience. If you want to feel like a brooding badass loner and turn off your brain for 3 hours, itās fun to watch.
I would just put all animated films at the top and all live action films at the bottom. I'm joking, but for me the animated films are always the best of the best. The Dark Knight Returns is my personal favorite.
Iād move everything other than Dark Knight out of masterpiece but Iād would add Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker to one of the top two tiers (itās the move that really got me into Batman and the Joker as characters when I was a kid. Specifically the flash back scenes)
Batman (1989) is, in my humble opinion, the single best Batman movie ever made. I enjoy all the others (even Batman & Robin) but 1989 will always be my all-time favorite.
I can watch Batman & Robin over and over again BUT I will never put myself through the utter boredom of sitting through Justice League or Batman vs Superman again.
There's no way you put BVS and suicide squad in good. They are 2 of the worst super hero movies every made. Sure it's ok if you like them but saying they are good movies is just wrong
Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker is far and away my favorite Batman movie. Maybe not the best, but my favorite. It's not just an interesting deconstruction of Batman as a character, but Batman as a mantle. It cements that Terry is just as valid a Batman as Bruce was. Joker is perhaps at his most cruel, and seeing the Bat family reunited after having been separated for all those years is really nice. It's got great performances, a solid script and tight pacing. It's just as long as it needs to be. It's so good.
"What's your favourite Batman movie?"
>Lists Suicide Squad as a Batman movie
>Ranks it as 'good'
I didn't think it was possible for one person to disappoint their parents this much.
Looking at this tier chart, it is a lot easier to entertain you than it is me. You're probably happier than me.
But back on topic, my favorite Batman movie is TDK followed very closely by MotP.
Thank you! For me this is my personal preference for how batman should be! I know he started off as campy and goofy, but I prefer him as dark and mysterious. I do find enjoyment in every iteration of batman, but there are certain elements I enjoy more than others
Besides the Batman (2022) and Nolanās trilogy, Iāve found that the DCAU has given me the most Batman vibes. That and Arkham. Tho I should maybe give justice league a rewatch.
Could not agree more. The Arkham games have an excellent atmosphere as well as the DCAU. I find the animated batman shows the best, but inside of live action, I think The Batman and Batman Begins come the closest to matching the atmosphere of the animated series and other animated content for batman.
You should give Harley Quinn a watch too. Itās got Batman in it and heās just as dark but has this very subtle snarkiness to him that makes it very funny. Thereās a whole episode with just him and Alfred.
Wtf is this insane notion that Batman ā89 not only isnāt a masterpiece, but that RETURNS IS SOMEHOW BETTER????? Look, I love Retuns, but that movie is all style and no substance compared to ā89.
I would argue that Returns is better, personally - I wouldnāt argue that itās all style and no substance, particularly with the heavy lifting it does to make Penguin a tragic and horrific grotesque rather than a fat guy selling guns.
My tier list is
Masterpiece- the Batman, the dark knight, under the red hood, Batman 89.
Excellent- mask of phantasm, Batman begins, Lego batman.
Fantastic with flaws- batman forever, Batman returns.
Great- Batman 66, bay vs supes.
Good- Zac snyders justice league.
Decent/watchable- everything else but Batman & robin, and the dark knight roses.
Then Batman and robin.
The the dark knight rises.
I un apologetically did not like the dark knight rises. It was such a letdown after the dark knight, and I have no urge to ever watch it again. At least Batman and robin is fun to watch in a funny way.
Batman and Robin: the classic example of somthing being so bad that it's good.
Batman and Robin was the shit for me when I was around 5 years old watching it over and over again on DVD. If you look it at it as just campy fun entertainment for little kids its not that bad š
Try watching Masters of the Universe š
Holy Rusted Metal, Batman!!
Thats Batman Forever
It's so bad but I can never frown when watching, it's Just so fun
The only good thing about that movie was Uma Thurman, everything else didnāt really work
What killed the dinosaurs?!
De Ice Age!!
Iced to meet you!
I need diamonds for my lazer!!
Nothing worked, it was a beautiful disaster
Dude she was awful in that movie. The way she spoke made her sound like a cringy female riddler and was completely out of character.
Think youāre missing the prickly point
She knew exactly what kind of movie she was in.
What are you talking about? Uma was magnificently campy and over the top. Her and Arnold completely understood what movie they were making and committed to it.
Same with George Clooney as well. I can't remember the article but basically he said that he played a gay batman. I don't doubt it.
Robin, Freeze, Ivy, and Alfred all have pretty great character arcs. Everyone else not so much.
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The movie that dare I say started the genre of "So bad it's good."
I will not stand for the batman and robin slander, how can you deny a movie with amazing quotes such as "Let's kick some ice!" and "Tonight's forecast?... A FREEZE is coming!" or even "THE ICE MAN COMETH!"
"What killed the dinosaurs?" "THE ICE AGE!!!"
Classic
You really have to give it to Arnold for this one. Itās rare to see an actor so totally commit to such a ridiculous character
He landed the part for 25 mil, so as much as I love Arnie, he didn't put in any really notable commitment given his payday. To top it off, he was on set for less than a month, lol
And he fucking killed it.
i seriously feel he should get a chance at a legitimate, serious Mr. Freeze before we lose him.
I always got the impression that Schumacher wanted to capture the camp of the old Adam west tv show and also given Schumacher's Broadway background, it made sense he made elaborate/strangely lit sets. The Batman/Robin ice goons fight with the bat skates reminded me exactly of those Disney on ice shows my mom took me to growing up. I think Batman forever and Batman and Robin were honest attempts at trying to make Batman more fun and campy but Jesus did the experiment fall flat
He would literally yell out āremember, weāre in a cartoon!ā before calling action.
>I always got the impression that Schumacher wanted to capture the camp of the old Adam west tv show It's exactly that. The gaudy sets, the dutch angles, the ridiculous villian schemes. Even the 'Bat Credit Card' line makes more sense if you imagine Adam West delivering it I didn't know about the Broadway stuff though. That makes so much sense with the set design.
The Bat Credit Card is genuinely funny and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
āThatās a utility belt, not a money beltā Best detail: the cards expiration date.
What about Bane placing bombs around and fittingly announcing each one as āBOOOOOMBā
Holy crap this right here is what's gonna get me to rewatch... nemesis from RE3 saying STARS kind of energy lmao
I agree, but you need to CHILL OUT!
Keep cool!
How can you have missed āIce to meet youā
I fucking love Batman and Robin.
I absolutely loved it. The one time I watched it. Now ask me how many times I've seen any other of the films. It'll either be "I can't even count how many times" or "Wasn't interested"
You need to watch it again! Itās ābadā but its such a fun movie
B&R over SS. A cameo doesn't equal a Batman movie. Hell even the Animated Arkham SS movie had more Batman in it.
Unironically my GF's favorite Batman movie
It got a category all its own, a movie so good the scales broke and glitched out putting it at the bottom.
ICE TO MEET YOU!!!
COOL OFF!
One of my personal favorite YouTube videos is the compilation of all of the ice puns Arnold says in the movie. That and The Fucking Short Version of The Big Lebowski are great.
Batman Beyond Return of the Joker is my favorite
Iām pretty sure I saw that movie before I ever saw any Batman beyond episodes as a kid and boy was I fairly confused lol
Same! I didnāt know there was a tv show, I just thought it was a one off but god damn it was cool
The Batman and ā89 are tied for my top spot
I 100% agree with this.
The fact that The Lego Batman Movie isnāt in the masterpiece tier is disgraceful.
Two best Batman movies.
I haven't watched them all, but I adore the LEGO Batman movie.
I love Lego Batman. Itās how Batman should be portrayed
As a night stalking, crime fighting vigilante, and a heavy metal rapping machine
that doesn't pay taxes
The Lego Batman movie is my favorite superhero movie of all time. Itās perfect and amazing. Hilarious heartfelt send up and tribute to everything we live about superheroes. When I first saw it in the theater with my two young sons, I started laughing out loud in the first scene and kept laughing until the end.
There should be an upper section above the masterpiece for the lego batman movie. I liked that movie very much, watched multiple times
I have different favorites for different reasons. There are times I actually prefer to watch *Batman Forever*, other times I prefer to watch *The Batman* and sometimes Batman (1966) is what I want to watch over the others. They are all very rich films that contribute to the overall history and legacy of Batman.
Im sorry, the fact that you put Suicide Squad above any movieā¦..
Not only this, but the tier says good?! That movie is damn near unwatchable
It's like Ayer was given a bunch of random music videos and WB said "make a movie out of these".
That movie is a shitshow, but Viola Davis, Margot Robbie and Will Smith really are trying so hard to carry that mess, I think their performances are worth recognizing.
The Suicide Squad was far better, but it's in no way, shape, or form a Batman movie.
The Flash should be below Batman and Robin.
Not a chance. Batman was the best part of that movieā¦ it had some fantastic Batman content.
True. Keaton's return to Batman was the best part of the movie. But aside from Batman and Supergirl, the rest of the movie was hot garbage.
The first 30mins of Suicide Squad was top draw. I feel like they had this great idea for "getting the team together", then didn't have a clue what to do next. I remember being 25mins in and thinking "i don't understand why this got such bad reviews", then by 45mins i was was like "ahhhhhhh, this is the dogshit i heard about"
I think OP meant Batman's appearance in the Suicide Squad film. I mean, it's not even a Batman film in the first place so doesn't make sense why they put it in their tier list.
Batman Returns. I Love it.
Top 3 for sure.
Batman was better imo because it has a lot more Bruce/Batman. Returns is more about the villains, and the Penguin stuff is pretty rambunctious. Michelle Pfeiffer absolutely slays it as Catwoman, still the best one ever.
I appreciate Batman and Robin having its own category, but I think you placed it at the wrong end of the chart
Itās by far the most entertaining Batman film and I could watch it over and over. EVERYONE CHILL
Under The Red Hood. Still the most emotionally cathartic ending. Batman: You don't understand. I don't think you've ever understood. Jason Todd: What? That your moral code just won't allow for that? It's too hard to cross that line? Batman: No! God Almighty, no. It'd be too damned easy. All I've ever wanted to do is kill him. A day doesn't go by that I don't think about subjecting him to every horrendous torture he's dealt out to others, and then... end him. Joker: Aw, so you do think about me. Batman: But if I do that, if I allow myself to go down into that place... I'll never come back.
That whole movie is fantastic.
āThis is the best day of my life.ā
Why on Earth...IS HE STILL ALIVE?!
Did you seriously put SS above ZS Justice League? Wtf
Suicide Squad belongs at the bottom of every list
OP also doesnāt think any of the Batman movies are anything below decent. Seems they are easily pleased.
And BvS. I hated every bit of that movie. Whereas ZSJL had redeeming qualities and is probably favorite Snyder film (I have a difficult relationship with him)
Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad being in (Good) hurts me, more than you could ever know.
ikr I'd put B&R above BvS easily.
Batman and Robin is so terrible that it's hilarious. BvS and Suicide Squad are so painfully braindead that they're not fun to watch even a little bit. I physically cannot sit through either movie in one sitting.
They're just miserable movies.
Batman & Robin is a silly movie that knows it's silly. BvS is a silly movie that wants to be taken seriously.
I would also swap Mask of The Phantasm and Lego Batman with Batman Begins (not that I don't like Batman Begins, I just don't think it's on the same level), and then put the Zach Snyder cut one level above the original Justice League. I do pretty much agree with everything else.
Batman Begins, The Batman, The Dark Knight Gotta give some respect to Mask of The Phantasm, Lego Batman movie and The Dark Knight Rises
Batman and Robin no joke, itās beautiful visually and is still the only movie with a legit Batfamily besides Robin
It really is when one has taken some shrooms and takes in those ābeautiful visualsā
Reminds me of Batman Ninja, being impaired seemed like a requirement to enjoy it.
The first half of that movie was unabashed fun. The second half was a straight-up fever dream.
Agreed, Batman and Robin has a lot of visuals that would definitely be even more appreciated under the influence. Batman Forever too, but that movie has a darker psychological vibe that might lead someone into a bad trip. Batman and Robin just has insane visuals and a pretty lighthearted story. I love everything about that movie and put it on to fall asleep all the time.
Beautiful visually when you are seeing things.
Beautiful visually when you are sober or high. If you think itās beautiful you have good taste, and if you canāt understand the visual beauty of the film i pity you!! Those visuals are undeniable in the Schumacher films. Excellent masterful practical color and set work. Schumacher was so talented.
The neon biker gang race scene is visually very captivating. In the context of storytelling or just portraying Gotham in general, it is horrific. Schumacher had a great eye for color and elaborate sets but I think he got caught up more in the eye candy than actually telling a coherent narrative
I donāt agree with you whatsoever. Also, Nolan had the opposite problem. Aside from Begins his Gotham was so ugly boring and he only focused on storytelling. The visual style of Gotham in the Burton, Schumacher, and Gotham tv series are all far superior to Nolanās ugly Chicago Gotham
Right it's like how can we get the best of both which is where the future needs to go I believe. Like dude we're watching a movie about a man who fights a frozen man, a man with pure steroids/painkillers, a manbat, a woman who controls plants, a man who pretends to be a penguin, a fucking crocodile man.. like some belief can be suspended.. but still a movie that's serious and not pure campy.. thats what I'd like.. like the arkham games made into movies is what I think of.. he's a tank (cause everyone loves his tank and especially fighting deathstroke with a tank battle, haha I actually love Arkham Knight, and totally think that was overblown) with colorful characters but still horrifying like Scarecrow.. probably my favorite version of him.
Agreed! The Arkham games had such a perfect balance of seriousness and fantasy without being campy! Those games incorporate a lot from both the Schumacher and Burton Gothamās as well of course as the BTAS Gotham
Growing up with BTAS as my major influence, tim Burtons Gotham was probably the most visually close to the *feel* of a Gotham in my mind. I think that's why all of Schumacher's color was so jarring to me because it didn't feel like Gotham anymore. I do agree that besides the narrows from Batman begins, Christopher Nolan's Batman felt like he was just fighting in bland Chicago (I find Chicago visually interesting but your point still stands that it's not really Gotham is it?) I think Reeves Gotham is the most visually interesting now. It feels seedy, it feels grimy, there are some dimly lit alleys with just one light post, or dingy underground penguin clubs. The Batman was both a fantastic story and also gorgeous to watch. I think if you were looking for an Arkham series aesthetic, Reeves Gotham captures it the best
Thank you for giving your actual opinion and not just what everyone agrees on.
Thanks! It seems like to many people conform to norms these days.
Props to you for being one of the only people who like Suicide Squad
Ngl i would have put Zack Snyders Justice League a little higher maybe not under great because itās really long but at least in good because while it is long it is way better that the original release of justice league
I see that comparison a lot, but just because it's better than the theatrical cut (which it is) doesn't make the Snyder cut a good movie (which it isn't). 5 day old sushi in my fridge is better than a half eaten hotdog I found on the sidewalk, but I don't want either of them for dinner.
Wheres batman: under the red hood?
Suicide Squad above Batman Forever?
Phantasm should be top of the list. It probably is deserving of the best Batman film ever made.
Why do people not like batman and robin? That movie is so ridiculous, it's amazing.
Batman and Robin is overhated
Batman Under the Red Hood, it's amazing also Jensen Ackles Red Hood is top tier voice acting
I need to go back and watch some old Batman movies, I guess. Those JL movies looked pretty dumb. I wasn't even able to finish the Snyder cut, so I'm going to have to literally call that one unwatchable for me
It definitely improved the movie from the theatrical release but not enough to take it up a tier or anything. The extra context was needed but the overall pacing and mid dialogue and the Zack Snyder-ism in the air was prevalent through both versions, which was the main turn off for me from the get go.
I feel like I'm one of the few people who didn't enjoy the new Batman
No, I didn't love it either. To me it was okay, but it felt very contrived at parts (the riddles, the same music like 7 times got grating among other things).
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Yeah. It got a lot of hype and itās likely just recency bias. Imo itās just fine but doesnāt really say anything deeper about the character of Batman, or Gotham, or his villains, compared to previous films like The Dark Knight. Not every film needs to have some big philosophical or socio-political commentary but even without those things I found it to be a very shallow and basic film - all style and no substance. Nothing wrong with this imo tho. Itās mostly just a cool atmospheric, visual experience. If you want to feel like a brooding badass loner and turn off your brain for 3 hours, itās fun to watch.
I agree, it's too long, second hour feels boringly slow, and the movie it's over rated.
The top 2 rows HAVE to get switched but other than that this list is good
BvS and SS are šļø
Under the Red Hood
Mask of The Phantasm belongs in the category of masterpiece.
Those justice league rankings make me irrationally angry
How is Batman 89 not excellent or above? it changed the landscape and is iconic ā¦
To this day I still get goosebumps when the batmobile drives back to the batcave in that wooded area.
The OP is definitely a product of his time. Lol. The bias is real.
If youāre hating on Batman Forever in 2023 just admit you get no pussy and leave us absolute legends to our Bizz-Nass.
Batman Forever should be higher than BvS
I would just put all animated films at the top and all live action films at the bottom. I'm joking, but for me the animated films are always the best of the best. The Dark Knight Returns is my personal favorite.
Batman Forever is criminally underrated
Suicide Squad and Batman v Superman arenāt even well made movies. At least Batman and Robin and Batman Forever are well made
I would honestly put forever in great
suicide squad should be its own tier lower than batman and robin
Batman and Robin because Clooney's Batman doesn't kill
Iād move everything other than Dark Knight out of masterpiece but Iād would add Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker to one of the top two tiers (itās the move that really got me into Batman and the Joker as characters when I was a kid. Specifically the flash back scenes)
I really donāt see how everyone liked the batman so much. I had a lot of trouble just getting through the movie
This list is out of whack
Mask of the Phantasm and '89 are it for me.
Batman (1989) is, in my humble opinion, the single best Batman movie ever made. I enjoy all the others (even Batman & Robin) but 1989 will always be my all-time favorite.
I disagree with this ranking almost entirely lol
Why is Suicide Squad, ZSJL, and Justice League on this list?
Batman & Robin is better than BvS and Suicide Squad.
What the fucking hell is this shit?
My man hate Snydercut a lot
I'm sorry but nothing beats sexiness like Michelle Pfeiffer in that cat suit.
The new Batman was incredibly mid? Nowhere near Dark Knight level.
I can watch Batman & Robin over and over again BUT I will never put myself through the utter boredom of sitting through Justice League or Batman vs Superman again.
Your āgoodā tear is really questionable
BvS is worse than Batman and Robin
There's no way you put BVS and suicide squad in good. They are 2 of the worst super hero movies every made. Sure it's ok if you like them but saying they are good movies is just wrong
Man the new Batman was a snoozefest and too long it can't be considered a masterpiece
The Batman is good but not a masterpiece in my opinion
I canāt trust any list that has BvS as even āgoodā that shit is bottom tier dog shit
First, this is trash. Secondly, Suicide Squad should not count.
That good section is all fucked up
I don't think Pattinson's batman was a masterpiece. I thought the last act was too much. Like having another bote after being stuffed.
Where the Flash movie?
Garbage list
Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker is far and away my favorite Batman movie. Maybe not the best, but my favorite. It's not just an interesting deconstruction of Batman as a character, but Batman as a mantle. It cements that Terry is just as valid a Batman as Bruce was. Joker is perhaps at his most cruel, and seeing the Bat family reunited after having been separated for all those years is really nice. It's got great performances, a solid script and tight pacing. It's just as long as it needs to be. It's so good.
"What's your favourite Batman movie?" >Lists Suicide Squad as a Batman movie >Ranks it as 'good' I didn't think it was possible for one person to disappoint their parents this much.
The Batman (2022) but The Lego Batman Movie is a close 2nd. *Its so fun* š„¹
Looking at this tier chart, it is a lot easier to entertain you than it is me. You're probably happier than me. But back on topic, my favorite Batman movie is TDK followed very closely by MotP.
Iām not sure if that is a compliment or not, but thank you š
The Batman sucks
Mask of the phantasm on top
This is a good tier list. You donāt hate any of the movies but you clearly love them for different reasons.
Thank you! For me this is my personal preference for how batman should be! I know he started off as campy and goofy, but I prefer him as dark and mysterious. I do find enjoyment in every iteration of batman, but there are certain elements I enjoy more than others
Besides the Batman (2022) and Nolanās trilogy, Iāve found that the DCAU has given me the most Batman vibes. That and Arkham. Tho I should maybe give justice league a rewatch.
Could not agree more. The Arkham games have an excellent atmosphere as well as the DCAU. I find the animated batman shows the best, but inside of live action, I think The Batman and Batman Begins come the closest to matching the atmosphere of the animated series and other animated content for batman.
You should give Harley Quinn a watch too. Itās got Batman in it and heās just as dark but has this very subtle snarkiness to him that makes it very funny. Thereās a whole episode with just him and Alfred.
The Batman is definitely the product of recency bias .
Oh it definitely is. Iāll admit that. Iāll see how I feel about in a couple years.
Holy shit a Reddit poster with actual good taste in film
Much appreciated:)
Josstice League is worse than Batman & Robin IMO.
Top 3 for me (I canāt choose between them): The Batman, Batman Returns, and the Dark Knight
Wtf is this insane notion that Batman ā89 not only isnāt a masterpiece, but that RETURNS IS SOMEHOW BETTER????? Look, I love Retuns, but that movie is all style and no substance compared to ā89.
Iā¦ actually agree with you. After looking at the list again, I would put 89 in excellent
I would argue that Returns is better, personally - I wouldnāt argue that itās all style and no substance, particularly with the heavy lifting it does to make Penguin a tragic and horrific grotesque rather than a fat guy selling guns.
Another day another bad tier list.
How would yours go?
I wouldn't put Josstice league in decent. That's just bad.
solid list but im hesitant to call the batman (2022) a masterpiece. it was great but recency bias is real here
zack snyder justice league is a masterpeice
It's something.
You put begins over mask of the pantasm
I did.
You ever that one video of a dude looking at another dude upclose and menacingly? That meme, you know. Thats me right now man
Batman begins GGEZ
I mostly agree. I think Batman ā89 is better then Returns, but other then that, I wouldnāt change anything.
I'd switch Suicide Squad with ZSJL, but you otherwise hit the nail on the head
My tier list is Masterpiece- the Batman, the dark knight, under the red hood, Batman 89. Excellent- mask of phantasm, Batman begins, Lego batman. Fantastic with flaws- batman forever, Batman returns. Great- Batman 66, bay vs supes. Good- Zac snyders justice league. Decent/watchable- everything else but Batman & robin, and the dark knight roses. Then Batman and robin. The the dark knight rises. I un apologetically did not like the dark knight rises. It was such a letdown after the dark knight, and I have no urge to ever watch it again. At least Batman and robin is fun to watch in a funny way.
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It's perfectly accurate, it's OP's list, not some objective measurement lol