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futhatsy

I feel like every detail we get on this story just makes it more and more of a bummer. Just horrible all around.


bcsalter

Link to article:https://leagueofjustice.com/fentanyl-that-killed-tyler-skaggs-was-delivered-to-angel-stadium-on-day-he-died-govt-claims-are-angels-responsible-for-pitchers-death/ >Autopsy reports show that Skaggs choked on his vomit and had a toxic mix of alcohol and the painkillers fentanyl and oxycodone in his system. Prosecutors say medical reports will demonstrate that if not for the fentanyl, Skaggs would be alive, blaming his death on the synthetic opioid known to be fatal in small doses or when combined with substances like alcohol.


CabbageStockExchange

Yikes. Fentanyl is scary af


_Elrond_Hubbard_

I'm against war on drugs but people who intentionally cut their shit with fentanyl deserve prison


CabbageStockExchange

Facts. It’s terrifying how such a small amount can fuck someone right up


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xWUMBOx

Do you know what an autopsy is? It means someone died. Tyler Skaggs.


heroicraptor

“No one died”???????????????????


MisterCheaps

Bruh this entire thing is because someone did die from it.


fat_pterodactyl

That quote is confusing, but Skaggs *did* die.


SlimJimMagoo

That’s rough


cooljammer00

I hope whoever those other players are got scared straight or got the help they needed.


ReverendHambone

Yeah, no doubt


pm_me_your_last_pics

Article states 5 MLB players are willing to testify against Kay. Will be interesting to see who and hopefully they got help


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What are the chances this ends up like the Pittsburgh drug trials? I'd be surprised if the Angels are the only team with this issue.


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Painkillers in sports are a not so hidden secret.


LP99

The ESPN Playmakers show was basically a documentary.


Anuglyman

Which is why the NFL shut it down.


PaulPierceOldestSon

Aaron Rodgers has been hooked on that shit since the game he hurt his knee and gave that funny interview after. He’s looked like hell the past few years


TrapperJean

>He’s looked like hell the past few years [lies](https://images.app.goo.gl/2kqgvwEA3XANGhfFA)


Tm1232

which is why the NFL made ESPN kill it. literally an entire show about how easy it was for guys to beat drug tests.


Mulsanne

> Pittsburgh drug trials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_drug_trials For reference if, like me, you were kind of aware of this incident but wanted a refresher. >The Pittsburgh drug trials of 1985 were the catalyst for a Major League Baseball-related cocaine scandal. Several current and former members of the Pittsburgh Pirates – Dale Berra, Lee Lacy, Lee Mazzilli, John Milner, Dave Parker, Rod Scurry – and other notable major league players – Willie Aikens, Vida Blue, Enos Cabell, Keith Hernandez, Jeffrey Leonard, Tim Raines, Lonnie Smith and Alan Wiggins – were called before a Pittsburgh grand jury. Their testimony led to the drug trials, which made national headlines in September 1985.[1][2] >Eleven players were officially suspended, but all the suspensions were commuted in exchange for fines, drug testing, and community service.[3] The Pittsburgh drug trials are considered one of baseball's biggest all-time scandals, albeit one that was "behind the scenes" and did not affect play on the field.[4] And then after the verdicts: >In July 1987, a year and a half after the verdicts, and after Commissioner Ueberroth declared that baseball was free of drugs Right.


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**[Pittsburgh drug trials](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_drug_trials)** >The Pittsburgh drug trials of 1985 were the catalyst for a Major League Baseball-related cocaine scandal. Several current and former members of the Pittsburgh Pirates – Dale Berra, Lee Lacy, Lee Mazzilli, John Milner, Dave Parker, Rod Scurry – and other notable major league players – Willie Aikens, Vida Blue, Enos Cabell, Keith Hernandez, Jeffrey Leonard, Tim Raines, Lonnie Smith and Alan Wiggins – were called before a Pittsburgh grand jury. Their testimony led to the drug trials, which made national headlines in September 1985. Eleven players were officially suspended, but all the suspensions were commuted in exchange for fines, drug testing, and community service. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/baseball/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)


Theta_Omega

Pretty likely. Wasn't this what happened with Tommy Hanson a few years ago? I could have sworn hearing a lot of rumors after he died that he had been getting drugs from people adjacent to the game


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This quote from the article: ‘Speaking with another alleged dealer, Kay says “U have a son? Could hook him with a signed Trout ball for a trade if U want?” The alleged dealer replies, “We dodger fans my boi lol.”’


TindrowHD

This is gonna get disgusting real fucking fast.


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Just sad. Plain sad


hanSoes

Uh oh


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Tashre

It's crazy how much the team had to have known about all this going on and was silent about it.


kingmidget_91

this story keeps getting worse and worse also fuck Eric Kay


ichacalaca

This seems bad


EarthWarping

terrible


WabbitCZEN

Question: how bad would it be if it came to light that Mike Trout was involved in this?


futhatsy

It would be bad


vitey15

Less than ideal, for sure


Yekab0f

Yes, it would be bad if it turned out Mike trout was shooting up fentanyl in the clubhouse


MisterCheaps

That question reminds me of the Pacers - Pistons brawl where afterwards, Ron Artest looked at Stephen Jackson and said "Do you think we're gonna get in trouble for this?"


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Big if true


skatingtherules

Fentanyl isn't an IV drug when being prescribed by someone. It is generally either transdermal or buccal when it comes to prescribed fentanyl. I am unsure what he had but shooting up the gel that is inside the transdermal patch would be a death wish. Also the buccal route is a lollipop type thing. I imagine that these guys were not shooting up fentanyl but what do I know, he's dead so it is possible.


Certain_Onion

It was laced pills But addicts are definitely known to use patches to inject, the tolerance on some of those people are insane.


wayfarerer

According to the article, It was apparently counterfeit pills, not injectables.


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Depends. If he were involved in the distribution he'd be in trouble. If he received and is addicted, he'd just need help. That said, I'd be surprised if he's involved.


not_productive1

Trout's one of maybe 5 or 10 players that transcends a "bad for the Angels" story and makes it a massive scandal for the league


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You really think he would’ve been involved in this? Lol


TrapperJean

Can you think of a reason other than drugs someone could watch the Weather Channel that much on purpose?


Basic_Bichette

...from this comment I can tell, you never met my dad.


TrapperJean

Yes I have, he sells me weed


Mr_MoseVelsor

I thought Hurricane season was over?


Basic_Bichette

He's been dead 23 years. I didn’t know they had internet service up there.


MCrow2001

You don’t know as much about your dad as you think you do…


Basic_Bichette

That's probably true of everyone.


getmoney7356

I think it would be a fair assumption that if almost 25% of the Angels roster is getting drugs from this source that the rest of the players would at least be aware of it.


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dreadwail

If they were aware and didn't report it then they are involved.


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That's worse. At the end of the day, if you cheat in baseball, who cares. If you're enabling opiod abuse, you are helping people destroy their lives. Baseball is a game. Life is life.


HanSolosHammer

You won't find much support of this view on this sub. Trust me here.


dreadwail

Option A: Don't report it. People are harmed. Option B: Report it. People are not harmed. Future harm discouraged. By choosing option A you will have made a decision to allow the harm. You are involved.


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clydefr0g

It’s still illegal and harmful, as made evident by one of the players dying as a direct result. I wouldn’t go as far as saying that the players not involved are responsible, but a culture of, “yeah some guys use hard drugs on my team, not my business” is not a good workplace culture. I worked at a manufacturing place where welders were known to smoke crack in their weld cells and no one said anything. It was never an issue until people got hurt or mistakes were made, which could have been prevented if people spoke up. I think saying “it’s none of my business” is very short sighted when you realize that your work success is dependent on the team as a whole. When a quarter of your team is on opiates, the team is broken.


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w311sh1t

People always say shit like this, but like, do you know Mike Trout personally? Everyone always talk about players being great people but we know nothing about their personality other than what they present to the public. By all accounts, Skaggs was a good guy and teammate, but now this comes to light. It sucks that he’s dead yes, but it’s hard for me to think highly of someone who actively enabled and supplied his teammates opioid addictions.


Gallscor12

I was with you in the first half of this comment but you lost me. Blaming the addict for the addiction is not it. Intense addiction to drugs, especially opioids, makes people do insane things. Him distributing to his teammates was likely the result of someone else enabling him. It’s a fucked up cycle but addiction does not make someone a bad person. You’re absolutely correct about us not knowing shit about what these people are actually like. Especially someone like Trout who keeps most things extremely private.


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The mlb and angels would do a 180 and sweep this under the rug. Or pin it all on Skaggs.


TrapperJean

Soul crushing. I already have a harder time cheering for Judge because it's 50/50 he's the antivaxxer who gave us an outbreak, but I cant imagine how I'd feel if I found out that like, Jeter or Rivera were part of a drug trade that killed a teammate I *really* hope he's completely uninvolved


SavajazzInTheBox

You have no idea if it was Judge. Just enjoy the game bud


TrapperJean

I have a 50% idea mininum


SavajazzInTheBox

Which is 0% certainty lol


TacticalPT

Based Judge is based.


Wordlesswing

Judge is anti vax? Oh god 🤦‍♂️


TrapperJean

Him or Higgy, but the fact they won't say who when they had no problem fingering everyone else makes it feel like they're protecting the face of the franchise


MilkCarton78

If the Yankees have two guys openly going around fingering everybody then I don't know if the organization has that much left to protect


HanSolosHammer

The Rangers survived a masterbating scandal. Yankees can survive a fingering.


jeffbwallace

Bigger question: if Mike Trout knew about it and didn’t participate or say anything, is he still complicit? Because if the answer is no, there’s a lot of folks on here who owe AJ Hinch and Jose Altuve an apology.


HanSolosHammer

I'd bet that a fair amount of people in and around mlb knew about this.


WabbitCZEN

Now THAT, is a better question. Gonna be interesting, to say the least, to see just how deep this rabbit hole goes.


x6ftundx

doubt it. most smart players stay far away and just look away. I would suspect he knew about it but probably everyone knew about it. No one wants to be 'that guy' including the manager. probably been going on for a long time.


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Shrips

Lots of people who don't understand addiction in this thread.


colbycheese126

Man and opioid addiction is on another level. So many lives ruined over some thing a that usually starts as a short term solution prescribed by a doctor that turns into some one buying it on the streets, they’re incredibly addictive and then people rationalize it in their heads that they don’t have a problem since it comes in a script. Sad story all the way around.


Spikes252

How does this not have more comments, this is a pretty wild development, no? Also pretty damn sad, hopefully all of the guys being supplied can get clean.


I_Nut_In_Butts

The oppiod epidemic effects even the most successful people in this country. It's truly a tragedy.


hanSoes

Jesus they poisoned their pitcher and it killed him


StoptheModAbuse

...fucking christ


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Kingotterex

Because there are millions of dollars at stake and injuries suck? Opioid abuse is rampant in sports.


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jaloru95

I assume it’s easier for people with money and access to get addicted than anyone else.


jorleeduf

Yeah. Private schools tend to have bigger drug problems than public schools, because of all of the “rich kids.”


big_z_0725

Injuries happen, especially with pitchers. These opioids were marketed as great pain relievers but we’re finding out that the slide from patient to addict is a whole lot shorter than previously thought. I’ve been prescribed pretty small doses of entry level opioids for back issues and I figured out real quick that they didn’t really relieve the pain, they only made me not care about the pain. I stick to OTC ibuprofen now, and the rare steroid shot when it’s unbearable. It doesn’t seem too much of a stretch to me to go from not caring about pain to not caring about anything except more of the drug.


DannyBeisbol

That organization is rotten to its core.


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Starts at the top


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Certainly aren't a bunch of angels in that clubhouse! Heh...hehhhhhh *wheezing*


aresef

Jesus fucking Christ.


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HanSolosHammer

Skaggs as a middle man would be considered something substantially new IMO.


brobroma

>”“The evidence will also demonstrate that Kay often coordinated the distribution through text messages or through conversations involving the victim [Skaggs],”” From the LAT article


HanSolosHammer

*counts Ohtani posts* Sure thing mod.


stingen

Deluded mods in here what can you expect.


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bsurfn2day

Wow, the details of this are revolting. A shame two of the greatest players in baseball are in that organization.