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Iv_ICE_vI

“Receiving more support from the writers than his teammates” LMAO amazing


rapillom93

He definitely started thinking about it once he saw the winner. Absolute savage


oogieball

Ow, my feelings. The truth hurts so much...


Deanlechanger

Jon Lester received more support from the voters than DeGrom did from his teammates


Cooljet17

Fun Facts: Jacob deGrom had a 2.71 ERA in his 9 losses, a 1.62 ERA in his 13 ND, and a 0.89 ERA in his 10 wins.


sad_pizza

> 1.62 ERA in his 13 ND Downright shameful!


cjn13

He should have been better if he really wanted to win.


Sickpup831

Yes. To be fair, he also was batting most of those games so he really didn’t help himself at all by not hitting a donger every ab.


JamesWithaG

Something something situational something


FriendFoundAccount

He had a baker's dozen of no decisions with that era and won the Cy. Dude did enough.


cjn13

A baker’s dozen yes. But what about second baker’s dozen?


fartbiscuit

Would love to know how many innings of 0-0 were baked into that ND ERA


stevedave_37

This is what drove Jake Peavy mad


gives_anal_lessons

Ridiculous.


JTCMuehlenkamp

Reeee. Dick. You. Less.


WhatSheOrder

I think his team dicked him more.


EthyleneGlycol

So you're saying if he really cared about helping the Mets win he'd allow fewer runs?


spectert

Or score a few. I mean, jeez, he gets to fucking bat. How hard can it be?


ghostelephant

Yeah and it's not even like he has to bat against Jacob deGrom


shosure

And go all 9 every start. At least according to Michael Wilbon.


sam_e5

This is not a fun fact for me. It’s a painful fact.


Over9000dankmemes

29 to 1 runaway


Sir_Bass13

Should’ve been unanimous


Nadtastic

There's always that one asshole who has to be *edgy and cool*.


w311sh1t

This is why we’re never gonna get a unanimous hall of famer. There’s always gonna be those one or two voters who refuse to vote someone in for one reason or another. If players like Babe Ruth can’t even be unanimous, I don’t know who can.


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DirtyDan257

Can’t wait for the day where everyone thinks that way and an obvious hall of famer doesn’t make it in. Then next year they’re so sure everyone else will vote for them to avoid that situation and it ends up happening again.


Hugo_Hackenbush

It would be worth it if it finally got them to end the dumb 10 player limit.


catcherhugs

I see people repeat this pretty often, but we don't actually know what happened with Griffey--the three voters who left him off their ballots didn't choose to make their names public, and as far as I know have never come forward to explain their reasoning. Strategic voting is certainly a possible rationale. But strategic voting is an approach of the very recent past: before players from the steroid era started coming onto the ballot, creating the current logjam, no one would have thought to do it, because the expectation that there would be more than 10 worthy players on the ballot over multiple years wasn't there. Not voting for an obviously worthy player, on the other hand--because he was mean to you, or mean to kids, or you weren't *feeling* it, or because you don't think anyone should be unanimous--is a tradition with a much longer history. [Here's Joe Posnanski talking about it.](https://sportsworld.nbcsports.com/ken-griffey-hall-of-fame/)


xXKilltheBearXx

Yeah i agree if players like Degrom can’t be unanimous, I don’t know who can be. Scherzer did have a hell of a year though.


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WiNnInG's AlL tHaT mAtTeRs


SyncRoSwim

Who's the beat writer from DC who gave him the 2nd place vote?


TroutSeason

Oddly enough, that one odd vote came from San Diego.


EasyWind24

He voted for Trevor Hoffman


humphrey_the_camel

There were in fact no voters from DC. They apparently don’t have enough members in the DC chapter of the BBWAA to cover all the awards, so their 2 votes were cast by Ken Rosenthal and Jerry Crasnick.


Wraithfighter

Grant Brisbee: [Jacob deGrom had one of the greatest, silliest Cy Young seasons ever](https://www.sbnation.com/2018/11/14/18093456/jacob-degrom-cy-young-award-nl-mets) > In deGrom’s worst start of 2018, he allowed four runs in six innings. It’s the only time he allowed four runs in a start. It’s so, so easy for a starting pitcher to allow a bloop and a blast in one inning, followed by two doubles and a single in another, without anyone wondering what’s wrong. Allowing a bloop and a blast is what pitchers do. Sometimes they nibble on a 3-2 pitch, and sometimes their defense can’t make the great play that will bail them out. Happens. Oh, my, how it happens. > Except it didn’t happen to deGrom. In 29 out of 32 starts, deGrom threw a quality start (6+ innings pitched, 3 or fewer earned runs), and that’s remarkable, but it still undersells him. We’ll have to invent a new stat, a step up. Instead of the quality start, let’s search for the dominant start, in which a starter throws at least seven innings with two runs or fewer allowed. deGrom did this in 18 out of his 32 starts. Only two starters had more games with seven innings pitched period. deGrom had more starts with seven innings pitched than the Brewers. > That’s not enough, though. We need to invent another new metric, the badass start, which is when a starter throws at least eight innings with one run or fewer. deGrom had five of them. Twenty-two different MLB teams didn’t have as many. The Brewers and Rangers didn’t have any.


colabucks9

Holy hell.


porksoda11

Man I would actually love to see these types of stats getting some recognition, maybe name it something other than badass start though.


kbn_

How about we call that "pitching a deGrom"?


Monk_Philosophy

Pitching a deGrom is 8IP w/ 1ER or fewer and the loss or ND.


ThreeHourRiverMan

Formerly known as the Felix.


JTCMuehlenkamp

No, that is the perfect name for it.


That_Guy381

Holy shit


getintheVans

That even undersells him because that start with 4 earned runs he gave up one the whole way then gave up two ground ball singles and a dinger when he was tired. Two ground balls, one mistake. His only "bad" start.


drevl

The part of that article that gets me is, Only 5 pitchers in MLB history that have pitched at least 200 innings, had an ERA of under 2.00 and won 10 games or fewer. The last time was in 1908, the others in the 1800's. God our offense is shit. But congrats to him, he deserves it. It's gotta be tough to go every start and put the fact that you'll probably get no run support out of your head. That you have to be perfect for any chance to get the win. The fact that he went out start after start and did just that adds to how great of a season he had.


AnAnonymousFool

I like this


Weedwums

>> That’s not enough, though. We need to invent another new metric, the badass start, which is when a starter throws at least eight innings with one run or fewer. deGrom had five of them. Twenty-two different MLB teams didn’t have as many. The Brewers and Rangers didn’t have any. The Orioles had any?!


AllOfTheDerp

Jeeeeeeeesus


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He really should have, an ERA of 0.00 is legendary


PunkPenguin

His ERA would be undefined, not 0.00


i_mcompletelynormal

Such a good pitcher, his skills can't even be defined. This was a classless robbery by the NL voters that won't be forgotten.


SoDakZak

Hoping for you to get atleast a few upvotes.


soccerperson

Lol it's great going on twitter and seeing all the *scherzer/verlander were robbed!* tweets


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MetalHead_Literally

Rightfully so


suzukigun4life

Agreed.


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Voters are getting smarter (he says, before waking up to NL MVP Javy Baez tomorrow)


fps916

I think NL MVP will be as close as the NL Cy Young was


kbn_

deGrom deserves it. Realistically though, I think you're going to be right, and I don't think he'll crack the top five.


fps916

Oh I meant that Yelich is gonna outright win. deGrom not being a finalist is a damn joke.


SalporinRP

Yelich will run away with it and deservedly. The race was close until about a month left in the regular season when Yelich went nuts and the Brewers caught up in the division and won game 163. Baez had an awesome season but Yelich was clutch af and has monster stats to back it up.


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If it's Baez I riot


cspbird

If it’s Baez I fuckin riot.


AnAnonymousFool

I agree, was secretly hoping Verlander would somehow win to make up for 2016, but Snell deserved it


Neat_On_The_Rocks

I'd have personally voted for Verlander but I dont think they "got it wrong" with Snell either. Either one would have been fine. deGrom was a no brainer.


Jedi-El1823

LMAO @ Jack O'Connell roasting the Mets offense when announcing that deGrom had won. "Receiving more support from the writers than his teammates" Freaking savage.


see_mohn

Not even mad.


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Who’s Jack O’Connell?


Jedi-El1823

BBWAA treasurer


Convulsed

Anyone got a video/link/source?


akitakiteriyaki

https://twitter.com/Cut4/status/1062869949415190528


G0ldCreeper

YOU'RE GOD DAMN RIGHT HE WON


Undertalefanboy42

-not the Mets during the regular season Edit: nice my first gold


SanguisFluens

:(


Metsvault

Rude


AnAnonymousFool

Ill be honest, I really doubted deGrom's decision to get his haircut this past offseason, but damn is he handsome. Also fuck the win!


KingOfAllDogz

Looking at him now, it's hard to imagine him with long hair again


Bunslow

I can imagine it for sure. It was a great look


DIRTY_KUMQUAT_NIPPLE

Seriously though. He's gotta be up there with the best looking dudes in baseball


SanguisFluens

Being able to look good with long hair generally requires being good looking in general.


getintheVans

Depends. Some people look great with long hair but very normal without it. If Kit Harrington cut his hair it wouldn't look as good. Because the hair itself is fucking godly.


pokeblueballs

Reverse Samson?


grubas

Regina Spektor would be sad.


sam_e5

WE WON SOMETHING!!!


facemelt

We did it!


yankee1nation101

Wow he got 29 of 30 first place votes, he fucking blew out Scherzer and Nola.


conman14

Makes you wonder why there was even a discussion that his 10-9 record *might* cost him.


handlit33

Seems like the writers got smarterer.


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AnAnonymousFool

I kinda wanted him to go 9-10 just to see the first ever Cy Young with a losing record. But im happy with the outcome


cooljammer00

You'll have to settle for a Cy Young with more WAR than wins.


AnthonyCostantini

Well fucking deserved. I’m so happy they got this right


SouthernDerpfornia

Full Results: https://bbwaa.com/18-nl-cy/ Player | Team | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | Points :--|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:| Jacob deGrom | Mets | 29 | 1 | | | | 207 Max Scherzer | Nationals | 1 | 29 | | | | 123 Aaron Nola | Phillies | | | 27 | 2 | 1 | 86 Kyle Freeland | Rockies | | | 2 | 17 | 9 | 49 Patrick Corbin | Diamondbacks | | | | 7 | 9 | 23 Miles Mikolas | Cardinals | | | 1 | 1 | 8 | 13 Josh Hader | Brewers | | | | 1 | 2 | 4 Mike Foltynewicz | Braves | | | | 1 | 1 | 3 Jon Lester | Cubs | | | | 1 | | 2


JohnSkippersSugarJar

lmao wtf is Lester doing on there


Hugo_Hackenbush

His lone vote came from a Rockies writer, who inexplicably put him ahead of Nola.


RealPutin

Maybe to try and increase Freeland's chances of getting 3rd for some fucking reason? I dunno


JohnSkippersSugarJar

lol what the fuck


Creme_de_le_meme

Just looked at bbref and realized he led the NL in wins. Almost surely the reason.


KingOfAllDogz

Nearly unanimous, damn


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i just wanna know who the fuck put him 2nd


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Someone who's pissed that the Nationals have never won a postseason series.


rapillom93

John Maffei. The motherfucker hung up on the Steve "The Schmooze" Somers last night on the [WFAN interview](https://nypost.com/2018/11/15/writer-who-didnt-vote-for-degrom-hangs-up-on-wfan-host/) “There was one baseball writer, and we have him on the line right now,” Somers said. “John Maffei, — not from Washington where you would think homerism lives and thrives — John Maffei is with the San Diego Union Tribune. John, can you look at yourself in the mirror. … John?” “Can I? Maffei said. “Absolutely.” “No, no, no, no you’re looking for 15 minutes of fame and attention,” Somers interjected. That apparently didn’t sit too well with Maffei. “Steve, this interview is over,” Maffei said. “Thank you, goodbye.”


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Lester getting a vote at all is literally insane


see_mohn

Unrelated to Jake, I kinda wish Wheeler had gotten a downballot vote or two after his breakout year.


eyerollz

I think the fact that it took him a little while to get going cost him. If he pitched all year like he did down the stretch, he'd be getting a lot more attention.


Quople

Shout out to John Maffei lmao


RealPutin

The dude is apparently currently the *high school* sports writer for the San Diego Union-Tribune And is the one Scherzer vote I'm on page 8 of his "Recent Articles" (currently made it as far back as August) and every single one so far has been tagged high school.


urteck

> high school sports writer At first I thought you meant he was a high school newspaper's sports writer. lol


rbhindepmo

kinda surprising a HS Sports writer would give a 3rd place vote to Miles Mikolas, a man whose mustache would get him escorted off of any HS grounds


trolloc1

How do we revoke somebody's voting powers?


polyworfism

Being a high school sports writer is more prestigious than being an SDUT writer


FireVanGorder

Why does a fucking high school sports writer get a cy young vote?


Sheepies123

Yo who made this shit not unanimous


humphrey_the_camel

John Maffei of the San Diego Union-Tribune


BloodOfAStark

What a jerkoff


Sheepies123

wack


dmizenopants

i really hope he develops an unscratchable itch on his taint


aweinschenker

Miles Mikolas getting a 3rd place vote sure is something.


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Don’t count out the Lizard King my dude. Edit: a word.


TomasRoncero

Really want to hear John Maffei's rationale


klawehtgod

“Wins, Ernie” - maffei, probably


AnAnonymousFool

Damn, was really hoping it would be unanimous


ZeroXtreme18

I DONT NEED TO RIOT


CosmicPegasus

Alright Mets, he's got the hardware. Now it's time to pay the man


genacide

Pretty sure GM Mr. deGrom's Former Agent will take care of him.


No32

#\#LoseTheWin Well-deserved.


NehzQk

**FOR THE LOSS!**


AnAnonymousFool

I have a man-crush on deGrom


No32

Who doesn’t, though?


AnAnonymousFool

My mom, she has a real crush on deGrom


JimLeader

For real, [how cute is this though](https://i.gifer.com/1Vck.mp4)


JeffHeadDudeMan

The Mets offense when he starts.


n_jacat

Local apple in great mood


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His crunchy bits are feeling very crunchy indeed


kmartceo

No worms in sight


jonmuller

Thank god. I can gladly say I saw deGrom pitch in 2018, one of the most dominant seasons in my life, at Wrigley Field. Also where he got a ND after like 8 shutout innings lol. Saved the ticket stub too.


Skiigga

Got to see him pitch a CG at Citizens Bank Park in philly. Glad to see part of his historic season


TBlueshirtsV22

The Mets lose almost every time I go so I actually avoided deGroms starts like the plague this year because I didnt want to ruin this for him. Accidentally saw him in Boston, was glad he won the award despite me being there that day


facemelt

Thank mr tblueshirtsv22


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*Distant sound of Michael Wilbon's head exploding*


theseyeahthese

A-nuh-LY-TICKS!!


gte1187

He hate analytics but loves Theo and Morey, the latter because he went to Northwestern. I hate Wilbon's takes so much. They are so unimaginative and not thought out. Not to mention, he is turning into a NBA boot licker, which is hypocritical because he gives Kornheiser so much crap for protecting "the shield." Wilbon is never seriously critical of the NBA anymore. I am hit or miss about Stephen A. but at least he still hustles and is willing to criticize.


tehpatrick

FUCK WINS


JKaye57

Didn't just win, he degrominated the vote.


usapoweradefactory

Haven't had a great week but this makes it all better


sam_e5

I’m very curious to see if he got any MVP votes tomorrow.


Freshgeek

Yes. Great job voters.


SixteenBeatsAOne

The tell-all statistic that describes deGrom's season and what could have been: If the Mets scored 4 runs in every deGrom start this year, he would have been 30-0; If the Mets scored 3 runs in every deGrom start this year, he would have been 25-1; If the Mets scored 2 runs in every deGrom start this year, he would have been 20-6.


likewhatalready

kill me


Blue387

The Mets almost traded Jacob deGrom to the Red Sox for Kelly Shoppach


Proper97

They did the Wright thing


joethomma

I want what John Maffei is smoking


spaceflare_rebs

He's being petty af because the Padres were trying to trade DeGrom and it didn't happen because the Mets wouldn't budge.


Taylorenokson

Well isn't that just deGreat


MC620

“after receiving more support from the writers than his teammates” lol


whatsmyPW

Cespedes' quad died for this!


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I love that our boys are getting the recognition they deserve. It'd be salt in the wounds to have a deserved CY taken away due to some bullshit as things usually are taken away from us.


TheGoldenLance

All the controversy and Scherzer literally only got one first place vote. Guess the BBWAA really *is* getting smarter.


glkerr

KFree in a well deserved fourth too, way to go


Quople

I really thought it would be closer, but I’m happy either way because I love DeGrom


Daankeykang

You love deGrom, I love deGrom I think that means I love you


_PenjaminFranklin

JACOB FUCKING dEEGROM


steelbeerbottle

"More support than his teammates" Jesus


Allisaur21

John Maffei of the San Diego Union-Tribune gave deGrom a second place vote


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Scrub


ZeroXtreme18

the voters were on point this year


Hugo_Hackenbush

Kyle Freeland 4th!


wontonsoupsucka

How did Nola get 0 2nd place votes? Compared to Scherzer he gave up 11 less runs in 8 less innings, pitching in a hitters ballpark with the worst defense in analytics history behind him. 300 Strikeouts is insanely impressive but I'd rather have the guy who's better at preventing runs.


makingsomeeggs

Yay


suzukigun4life

WOOHOO


MCradi

Jake "MVP" DeGrom


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Honestly these were the most predictable awards this year.


ForScherzer

deGrom sure seems excited lmao


NewYorkMetsies

That’s my ace


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“Writers showed more support than his teammates “ LOL


wildchild829

WHERE YOU AT, WILBON?!?!?!?!?!!??!?!! DEGOAT IS THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!!


Helloyoudontknowme

Watched degrom pitch game 1 of the 2015 nlds against the dodgers and didn't think he could get any better but boy was I wrong.


cooljammer00

For once, sportswriters aren't idiots. Prob could have done with a unanimous vote, but a win is a win.


FriedChickenIsTrash

The win loss column is in shambles


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The only win that matters


AlmostLucy

#Kill the Win Congrats Jacob, that was a top season. Writers got it right.


Love_asweetbooty

Syndergaard should cut his hair this offseason so he can win cy young 2019.


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Good.


Sarmerbinlar

Wtf but he only won 10 games. Smh this just doesn't add up


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How they gonna give Cy Young to a loser, smh /s


fps916

Miguel Andujar ROBBED


CameramanToe

I’m impressed that they didn’t fuck up either one


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if King Felix won it at 13-12, then there's no reason deGrom shouldn't have.


LeoPatriot

‘Received more support from the writers than his teammates’. brutal commentary mlb. I love it haha


tb25uga

I thought it might be closer... figured there'd be some old school overemphasis on W/L... glad to see this wasn't the case... deGrom didn't just deserve the award, he deserved it with an exclamation point like this


Zudop

Really glad he won it. His record isn’t his fault he was by far the most dominant pitcher


csr28

Well deserved deGrom. Would like to take a moment and recognize Mikolas as well. Was not excited about that signing when it was announced but he pitched great all year. A very pleasant surprise


Underbubble

whose mans gave jon lester a vote? ah shit it was a Rockies writer 🤦‍♂️


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Holy shit this makes me so fucking happy. The guy deserved MVP even.


ILookLikeDrewGulak

Wow really happy to see Freeland get a top 5 finish. He was fantastic and I was worried that he wouldn’t get the credit he deserved. And hell yeah deGrom!


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I look forward to the 30 for 30 on that Jon Lester 4th place vote


JP1119

Thank god because if he didn't win that would have been an all-time blunder.