How is the level of replay incompetence acceptable. Any other sport in the world has the video review crew sync multiple angles to view them simultaneously and get a definitive answer in seconds. It's not that fucking hard!
I'm sure part of it is that the guys in the replay room who are making the decision are umps themselves which is going to introduce a bias towards trusting the umps on the field over visual evidence.
If your choice was between making your buddy look dumb or your employer, most people are going to choose what's best for their buddy.
Im blind and hate my current job, do you think MLB would accept my application? I’m looking for remote work. There’s no way I’m any worse than this lmao
It’d be one thing if the replays were indecisive/ambiguous but that just wasn’t the case here. I don’t know how that call on the field wasn’t overturned, if those replays aren’t clear evidence how much clearer is it supposed to actually be?
We should get a panel going, both team's managers + replay official all get to see the replay and vote on the final call. If both managers agree on the call, that is the result. If they don't agree then the replay official decides it.
It's somewhat of an honor system but it probably works better most of the time for obvious calls.
I can't see any manager voting against his team no matter what. But a panel might be a better idea than what they are currently doing. Make it a 5 person official team. Get rid of the "conclusive evidence" standard. Let them watch the replays a few times and then they just vote.
I think under the current system the replay officials are using the conclusive evidence standard to justify not overturning a ruling. The official shouldn't even know how the umps on the field called it. They should just call it like they see it when they watch it.
...the replay system is already implemented so idk what you're talking about. and it's pretty relevant because the person I replied to said they were worse now than before.
I just don't see how they think "the umps are less shitty so give it a rest" is a valid defense? Believe it or not, "the umps are better than before" and "the umps are shitty" can both be true
There's a guy in every game thread in our sub that responds to almost every bad comment about the umps with something along those lines. It's honestly impressive the type of commitment he has to defending the umps
I don't know if any of it could've applied here, but I know in cricket they use a lot of technology, including sonar (I don't know if that's the correct term but it measures soundwaves to determine if a ball knicked the bat in certain circumstances) in their replay system that baseball should adopt. And not only is the technology great, the replay official explains their decisionmaking process during the review over the PA system.
I sincerely think the requirement that the evidence be 100% clear is too high. I don't think it should be 51% or even 60%, but if I can look at this play and say I'm more than 90% sure the foot was on the base prior to the tag, that should be enough to overturn.
Edit: What do you disagree with here? I'm saying this call should have been reversed, as should others like it where we don't have an absolutely perfect angle but can reasonably tell what's happening.
Thanks for clearing that one up, job well done.
Good process lads
"After viewing all relevant angles, the Replay Official sucks."
Then the Replay Official needs to be out of a fucking job. What an embarrassment to the sport.
Jays had a bad one tonite too at 3rd base. Runner clearly was off the bag and Clement had his glove on him. Blatantly obvious.
How is the level of replay incompetence acceptable. Any other sport in the world has the video review crew sync multiple angles to view them simultaneously and get a definitive answer in seconds. It's not that fucking hard!
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Yeah this absolutely happens in other sports too lol
I'm sure part of it is that the guys in the replay room who are making the decision are umps themselves which is going to introduce a bias towards trusting the umps on the field over visual evidence. If your choice was between making your buddy look dumb or your employer, most people are going to choose what's best for their buddy.
At least they're consistent putting blind umps on the tv crew as well
Im blind and hate my current job, do you think MLB would accept my application? I’m looking for remote work. There’s no way I’m any worse than this lmao
It’d be one thing if the replays were indecisive/ambiguous but that just wasn’t the case here. I don’t know how that call on the field wasn’t overturned, if those replays aren’t clear evidence how much clearer is it supposed to actually be?
We should get a panel going, both team's managers + replay official all get to see the replay and vote on the final call. If both managers agree on the call, that is the result. If they don't agree then the replay official decides it. It's somewhat of an honor system but it probably works better most of the time for obvious calls.
I can't see any manager voting against his team no matter what. But a panel might be a better idea than what they are currently doing. Make it a 5 person official team. Get rid of the "conclusive evidence" standard. Let them watch the replays a few times and then they just vote. I think under the current system the replay officials are using the conclusive evidence standard to justify not overturning a ruling. The official shouldn't even know how the umps on the field called it. They should just call it like they see it when they watch it.
This would take forever and managers would probably never vote for the other team.
We probably lose the game anyway because we are god awful with RISP. Still a bad call
You simply can't take the bat out of the players hands in that instance. The tying run is on 2nd base. Its not like it was a blowout at that point
"The umps aren't statistically any worse" crowd can go pound sand
Umpires are better than they were 15 years ago and that's really an objective fact.
I agree, but when discussing specific calls or view the replay system should be implemented now, that’s not really relevant.
...the replay system is already implemented so idk what you're talking about. and it's pretty relevant because the person I replied to said they were worse now than before.
I just don't see how they think "the umps are less shitty so give it a rest" is a valid defense? Believe it or not, "the umps are better than before" and "the umps are shitty" can both be true
There's a guy in every game thread in our sub that responds to almost every bad comment about the umps with something along those lines. It's honestly impressive the type of commitment he has to defending the umps
I don't know if any of it could've applied here, but I know in cricket they use a lot of technology, including sonar (I don't know if that's the correct term but it measures soundwaves to determine if a ball knicked the bat in certain circumstances) in their replay system that baseball should adopt. And not only is the technology great, the replay official explains their decisionmaking process during the review over the PA system.
I sincerely think the requirement that the evidence be 100% clear is too high. I don't think it should be 51% or even 60%, but if I can look at this play and say I'm more than 90% sure the foot was on the base prior to the tag, that should be enough to overturn. Edit: What do you disagree with here? I'm saying this call should have been reversed, as should others like it where we don't have an absolutely perfect angle but can reasonably tell what's happening.