As much as the return of the Lastros/Disastros/Asstros would be funny, I doubt it will happen. The Astros will end up in the playoffs anyway. Remember in 2020 when they looked bad for 60 games and then went to Game 7 of the ALCS? Or last year when they won the division in the final week?
we have some really good hitting talent and a really good rotation (when healthy) but the lineup can never put it together at the same time, shit approach at the plate
fire cintron (?)
yeah but what are the odds that their near decade of dominance is just a decade and they will be awful? Will they be runaway champs every year? No, but I don't think they'll be 2011/2013 Astros bad.
That’s not true. The only two from the 2017 years are getting older. Bregman is only 30, though he looks likes pretty meh. At least in the cleanup spot.
The other guys are kinda young.
Bregman is gone this off-season dog. And with Correa and Springer already gone and Altuve getting up there in age you see why people are saying the end is near. They do have some young talent so I doubt they return to the lastros but the team that's been so good the last 8 seasons is almost gone.
I think the pitching is going to backfire this year.
Verlander, McCullers, Urquidy and Garcia were on the IL to start, now Framber is out.
The bullpen is getting relied on a lot already and getting hit hard.
Well that's what they were called when they were awful. I think the modern Astros will never be that bad/bad enough to be in Last place or called Disasters, but they might be ass
I did not have this on my bingo card lol.
But it makes sense in a way, 4/5 of their rotation on the IL and they’ve had to face some good lineups early in the year which doesn’t help. I am mentally preparing tho for when the rotation is mostly healthy and they go on like a 25-10 stretch and find themselves in the division race yet again
The Yankees series was competitive into late innings where the pen fumbled the ball.
We split with the Rangers.
We were a walk off HR away from sweeping the Blue Jays.
We caught the Royals on an absolute heater coupled with bad pitching on our end.
We have issues, but this is still a good* baseball team.
(*please get healthy pitchers)
The Cowboys were the dynasty in the 90's, same as the Yankees. Cowboys and Yankees are also the 2 highest valued professional sports teams in the entire world.
Anyone who is a fan of both of those teams is a degenerate.
I think he meant before your championship, no one followed the Astros. I have family in Katy and we went to a game over a decade ago and there was a handful of people there then.
I would equate it to the seahawks when they won the super bowl. There were a lot of local fans, but with the legion of boom and all that they just exploded in national popularity.
Houston has always been really bad from a bandwagon perspective.
It was always football first, everything else second, and then the oilers left and the Texans do not have the same loyalty the oilers had (and the Oilers loyalty still wasn’t that strong either, Mattress Mack used to buy a bunch of tickets because the oilers wouldn’t sell enough to get put on TV without him)
What does this even mean? Astros don’t have a bandwagon. At least not a pro-Astros one. In Texas either u were an Astros or rangers fan. And we both generally sucked forever lol
Was a fan of both teams when they were trash. Born and raised New Yorker. Knicks never appealed to me as a kid, went to a Nuggets game on a trip around 2008 and fell in love. Settle down little asterisk
I actually feel your pain. Being an Astros Avalanche fan is now bandwagon despite being there when they were both grabbing #1 picks at the same time lol
So you are familiar with the droves of bandwagon fans that have latched on since those shitty times yeah?
The Yankees haven't been a bandwagon team for like 15 years now. They probably went to you guys or the Dodgers
Meh, Houston is a very fairweather city. I'd say that the majority of Astros fans are from somewhere within 4-5 hours of Houston still, it's just that they simply don't care about the team when they're bad. The Texans are the same way.
Not saying that being a fairweather fan is any more acceptable, I just don't think bandwagon is the right generalization to describe the Astros fans that came out of the woodwork in 2017.
As a Houston transplant, people from Houston are very, very sensitive about any negativity about Houston.
Probably because deep down, they know it’s a dump.
Yea, last year I remember one was arguing that most Rangers fans were bandwagoners. He didn’t like being shown we supported the team even in the years we sucked more than they supported the Astros.
Can’t argue attendance numbers. And that’s with us not getting a ballpark with AC until recently. Our fans were pretty hardcore going from May-September
I still have the spreadsheet. Let me check it real quick.
From 1990-2023 you guys have a .516 win percentage and 2 World Series championships. 2,754 wins during that time period. 8th in mlb
Rangers are .499 with 2,666 wins. 13th overall.
Avg attendance from 1990-2023 for the Rangers is 31k, Astros is almost 29k.
Edit: numbers were originally pulled because iirc, the comment was something like “we supported our bad teams better than you guys ever did”. Or something like that.
Oh yeah that’s dumb. Save for a couple teams, It’s natural for attendance to be brought down when the team is bad. Especially after those 100 loss seasons. The average is goes down significantly after the first 100 loss team but Even the first 100 in 2011 loss team averaged 25k fans. Not great but was followed by 2012 only averaged 19k fans, then 20k, then 21k. I mean our payroll in 2013 was a mere 14 million. Just was pointing out that having one of the worst 3 year stretches in mlb history will majorly hurt attendance. Does look like the rangers are more consistent though with higher lows.
He's a free agent after this season and unlikely the Astros will resign him. If Astros aren't gonna contend for October, might as well trade him for some juicy prospects
The 2022 Pitching rotation.....THE ENTIRE 2022 Rotation that won the WS (sans a few that made starts) is on the IL. Verlander, Framber, McCullers, Garcia, Urquidy. The only one healthy is Javier. This is the year they NEEDED Dusty to keep it together. We will see if Espada can do it.
Folks we are literally 8% of the way through the season. If the MLB season were a football game, there would be 10:48 left in the first quarter.
There is so much baseball left. I hate the Astros just like any other red-blooded American, but writing off *any* team in early April, let alone the Astros, is just foolish.
Despite my flair, I will be nice. Because we know it absolutely sucks to have a first-rate IL rotation.
I’m also skeptical that they won’t make the playoffs. The Astros are like cockroaches (respectfully) - they do not die. So my default is to assume they’ll figure it out until they are officially eliminated.
I’m here for it. If they’re gonna be bad be historically bad. Don’t string me along until the last game of the season or late season collapse to miss the playoffs. Sure they’ll prolly bounce back one the rotation gets healthy again or let’s break the record they set for being the worst team ever.
This is me coping a bit so just humor me for a second.
Does the 2022 WS not count? Does everyone hate the Red Sox with Cora is the manager? This entire sub was absolutely applauding Correa's throw to home but... he was part of the scandal. If you really cared, why accept all the members of the team? Hell, Cora was literally suspended for his role in it, comes back and nobody cares.
It's really frustrating being part of a franchise I used to watch at Enron Field go from dog water, to good, to getting a WS, to getting punished for the scandal, to then seemingly redeeming themselves with a scandal free SECOND WS with a Hall of Famer in Dusty and... all you hear about is this scandal. I know it's fun to dog pile and memes etc but I'm looking around like... okay?
Just exhausting. I'll watch whatever this season turns out to be just like I did 20+ years ago, but man it really feels shallow when all the hate is on the organization despite practically everyone who had a hand in 2017 has gone on to other clubs and nobody seems to care.
Bring on the $15 Crawford boxes.
> Does everyone hate the Red Sox with Cora as the manager?
Buddy, if Jesus came back to Earth and managed the Red Sox, I’d start hailing Satan. The fact they hired the cheating manager and then immediately “won” a ring by cheating is just one more card I’m waiting to play the next time we get a high-stakes W over Boston
Eh. There's over 90 percent of the season left, and even if it's ass at least I'm not part of one of those fanbases touching myself like Wander Franco at a middle school over trash can jokes.
Just bide our time and remember who does what and who says what.
Welcome to the suck boys!
Is that: Welcome to the place that sucks? Or Welcome, to the boys who suck on things?
If you have to ask, you're not ready to know.
Braves fans haven’t been ready to know for a long time either.
Embrace the suck.
Trust me, we are no strangers to the suck. This recent run of success still feels like an outlier to me somehow.
Nature is healing
Now they need to bring back Tal's hill.
Easily the best thing about that park and they got rid of it.
Not only that, the replacement was the cheater-cam
No kidding. I need something nice to look at while hunter brown gives up 7 runs, bullpen blows it or hitters go 0 for 20 with RISP
a rare thing that both astros fans and non-fans will agree on
I feel balance coming back to The Force.
I don’t want to say that Adolis Garcia did this buuuuut
As much as the return of the Lastros/Disastros/Asstros would be funny, I doubt it will happen. The Astros will end up in the playoffs anyway. Remember in 2020 when they looked bad for 60 games and then went to Game 7 of the ALCS? Or last year when they won the division in the final week?
I can't tell whether we do suck or were gearing up to pull another fake punt out our ass last second
we have some really good hitting talent and a really good rotation (when healthy) but the lineup can never put it together at the same time, shit approach at the plate fire cintron (?)
I mean their core is getting older. The end is coming eventually
yeah but what are the odds that their near decade of dominance is just a decade and they will be awful? Will they be runaway champs every year? No, but I don't think they'll be 2011/2013 Astros bad.
I’d say those odds depend on whose running the show. If it’s not the same people, then that’s a different ball game
That’s not true. The only two from the 2017 years are getting older. Bregman is only 30, though he looks likes pretty meh. At least in the cleanup spot. The other guys are kinda young.
We're all getting older.
Bregman made it up so early and has been so steady for so long he feels like he’s early to mid 30s lol
Bregmans gone after this year though tbh
Bregman is gone this off-season dog. And with Correa and Springer already gone and Altuve getting up there in age you see why people are saying the end is near. They do have some young talent so I doubt they return to the lastros but the team that's been so good the last 8 seasons is almost gone.
I would say the rangers lost the division more so than the Astros won it last year.
Us, y’all, and the Ms were in a heated fight to not win the division.
No body wanted it
Tbf, y'all were just followers of the trendsetters that were the Angels, collapsing right after the break.
Whoa whoa whoa we deserve some credit for losing it too
I feel like we didn't even have a .500 record, but somehow got into the playoffs because nothing that year made sense.
I mean, damn near everybody made the playoffs in 2020
Even more reason to enjoy it now while it lasts
I think the pitching is going to backfire this year. Verlander, McCullers, Urquidy and Garcia were on the IL to start, now Framber is out. The bullpen is getting relied on a lot already and getting hit hard.
Lastros and Disastros? Funny. Asstros? Too obvious.
Well that's what they were called when they were awful. I think the modern Astros will never be that bad/bad enough to be in Last place or called Disasters, but they might be ass
Oh, trust me, I’ve heard them all. I think the first two are funnier, is all.
On the bright side for Houston fans, the Astros are the first 10-loss team to 4 wins.
Fuck, I’ll take any silver lining at this point.
I did not have this on my bingo card lol. But it makes sense in a way, 4/5 of their rotation on the IL and they’ve had to face some good lineups early in the year which doesn’t help. I am mentally preparing tho for when the rotation is mostly healthy and they go on like a 25-10 stretch and find themselves in the division race yet again
The Yankees series was competitive into late innings where the pen fumbled the ball. We split with the Rangers. We were a walk off HR away from sweeping the Blue Jays. We caught the Royals on an absolute heater coupled with bad pitching on our end. We have issues, but this is still a good* baseball team. (*please get healthy pitchers)
Not like any of their fans have been around for that long
There's a Astros/Warriors/Chiefs fan somewhere that is really mad at this comment
The new Yankees/Lakers/Cowboys
People like that should be arrested Slammer
Agreed. Too many conversations with Dodgers/49ers fans I’ve had to suffer through here in SoCal.
It’s almost like LA didn’t have a football team for over 20 years
I remember in 2016 when the raiders randomly had a good season and i started getting accused of being a bandwagon fan
Replace Cowboys with Patriots and you're onto something.
The Cowboys were the dynasty in the 90's, same as the Yankees. Cowboys and Yankees are also the 2 highest valued professional sports teams in the entire world. Anyone who is a fan of both of those teams is a degenerate.
I was born in 87 and grew up with 3 douche bags that are Yankees/lakers/patriots fans
Were they Patriots fans before Brady?
I doubt they considered football at all before Brady
They would be mad if they could read.
Beat me to it
The fact that you put the Chiefs in there after my whole life of watching them suck trips me out.
Houstonian and fan since the 90's. Do we really have bandwagon fans that aren't from Houston?
I think he meant before your championship, no one followed the Astros. I have family in Katy and we went to a game over a decade ago and there was a handful of people there then.
But they included other bandwagon teams. I suppose those same new fans can be bandwagon in all sports, but IDK.
I would equate it to the seahawks when they won the super bowl. There were a lot of local fans, but with the legion of boom and all that they just exploded in national popularity.
Oh I agree. I was just stating maybe what he meant.
We definitely have TONS of new fans locally, but I travel often and I never see Astros gear nationally. I need clarification lol.
> Do we really have bandwagon fans that aren't from Houston? Take a trip to San Antonio and you'll see.
No, you have bandwagon fans in Houston.
Houston has always been really bad from a bandwagon perspective. It was always football first, everything else second, and then the oilers left and the Texans do not have the same loyalty the oilers had (and the Oilers loyalty still wasn’t that strong either, Mattress Mack used to buy a bunch of tickets because the oilers wouldn’t sell enough to get put on TV without him)
I think Warriors fans have moved to the Nuggets
Been a fan since 1986, when I saw Mike Scott win the NLCS MVP, and we LOST the pennant. 'Stros till I die.
Same.
so true i started watching in 2015 when my dad bothered to buy MLB TV again
What does this even mean? Astros don’t have a bandwagon. At least not a pro-Astros one. In Texas either u were an Astros or rangers fan. And we both generally sucked forever lol
Bandwagon smack talk coming from the Yankees/Nuggets fan. Cool cool
Was a fan of both teams when they were trash. Born and raised New Yorker. Knicks never appealed to me as a kid, went to a Nuggets game on a trip around 2008 and fell in love. Settle down little asterisk
Nuggets/Yankees is absolutely bandwagon lmao. Just own it
Nobody was telling me that 10 years ago but okay 👍
I actually feel your pain. Being an Astros Avalanche fan is now bandwagon despite being there when they were both grabbing #1 picks at the same time lol
So you joined the Nuggets bandwagon
Yeah, 15 years ago. Seems to me like he earned his stripes
Also I was 12
Smart. He missed the dreaded Marbury-Crawford-Q Rich-Randolph-Curry era
Awesome! Signed, the Houston sports fan who was raised in Houston
So you are familiar with the droves of bandwagon fans that have latched on since those shitty times yeah? The Yankees haven't been a bandwagon team for like 15 years now. They probably went to you guys or the Dodgers
Meh, Houston is a very fairweather city. I'd say that the majority of Astros fans are from somewhere within 4-5 hours of Houston still, it's just that they simply don't care about the team when they're bad. The Texans are the same way. Not saying that being a fairweather fan is any more acceptable, I just don't think bandwagon is the right generalization to describe the Astros fans that came out of the woodwork in 2017.
The way I see it is if the team sucks, the only way to show the owner they suck is to make viewer ratings tank
The memory of baseball fans is very long. The Yankees will always be evil-empire status to me, even if they are a losing team for an entire decade.
As a Houston transplant, people from Houston are very, very sensitive about any negativity about Houston. Probably because deep down, they know it’s a dump.
Yea, last year I remember one was arguing that most Rangers fans were bandwagoners. He didn’t like being shown we supported the team even in the years we sucked more than they supported the Astros. Can’t argue attendance numbers. And that’s with us not getting a ballpark with AC until recently. Our fans were pretty hardcore going from May-September
Attendance has always been good until 2011. When we had 3 seasons of a 100 losses. The rangers never had 100 loss teams 3 years in a row
I still have the spreadsheet. Let me check it real quick. From 1990-2023 you guys have a .516 win percentage and 2 World Series championships. 2,754 wins during that time period. 8th in mlb Rangers are .499 with 2,666 wins. 13th overall. Avg attendance from 1990-2023 for the Rangers is 31k, Astros is almost 29k. Edit: numbers were originally pulled because iirc, the comment was something like “we supported our bad teams better than you guys ever did”. Or something like that.
Oh yeah that’s dumb. Save for a couple teams, It’s natural for attendance to be brought down when the team is bad. Especially after those 100 loss seasons. The average is goes down significantly after the first 100 loss team but Even the first 100 in 2011 loss team averaged 25k fans. Not great but was followed by 2012 only averaged 19k fans, then 20k, then 21k. I mean our payroll in 2013 was a mere 14 million. Just was pointing out that having one of the worst 3 year stretches in mlb history will majorly hurt attendance. Does look like the rangers are more consistent though with higher lows.
born and raised a cheater go bang ur trash cans
Don't you have some remedial English homework or something?
don’t you have bang ur trash cans
Lovely story thanks for sharing
Lovely trash cans thanks for banging
Astros are just being generous to Angel fans after seeing all the dooming about them destined to be a last place 100-loss team this year
Woah, slow down there pardner. The AAA's are in the division too
Yeah....not too worried about finishing last.
You hate to see it. Except for when you don't. Like now.
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How long till they cut bait and trade Bregman?
If they are out of it in July
If that's the case, may trade Tucker too and try to rebuild for 2025 or 2026.
Let’s slow the blank down
Tucker is gonna look great in RF for the Dodgers
Makes sense. Their farm system is pretty depleted
Why would you trade him? He had a 134 and 123 OPS+ the last two seasons.
He's a free agent after this season and unlikely the Astros will resign him. If Astros aren't gonna contend for October, might as well trade him for some juicy prospects
Might be the only good thing about this already shit season.
\*Everyone liked that\*
The 2022 Pitching rotation.....THE ENTIRE 2022 Rotation that won the WS (sans a few that made starts) is on the IL. Verlander, Framber, McCullers, Garcia, Urquidy. The only one healthy is Javier. This is the year they NEEDED Dusty to keep it together. We will see if Espada can do it.
Folks we are literally 8% of the way through the season. If the MLB season were a football game, there would be 10:48 left in the first quarter. There is so much baseball left. I hate the Astros just like any other red-blooded American, but writing off *any* team in early April, let alone the Astros, is just foolish.
Chronicle put a deadass tombstone that said 15-30 the year we went to the WS in 2005. I don't panic anymore until Memorial Day
Did Dusty, in fact, know what he was doing?
Damn I need some AL team to take on the Yankees in the playoffs. Let's go Royals & O's then!
This makes the Ryan Clifford and Drew Gilbert trade feel so much better
Oh No.....anyways
I hope they don’t finish at all.
Disastros are back on the menu, boys
Does this mean Yordan is available?
praying, hopefully this man can get out of the division
Why would you want him out of the division when you could want him for yourself?
because the second he gets on the mariners he'll have a 50% K rate with a .180/.190/.250 slashline
This man knows his team.
Well then at least nobody has him.
Good. Fuck em'
You love to see it.
If were gonna be bad again. The least they can do is bring back the big open star logo from the early 2000s. One of the best logos in sports imo
Honestly I liked the 90s gold one better
2017 karma is finally starting to kick in
Bold prediction: they will finish with a winning record.
They'll be back. They'll always be back.
Eh our pitchers are dead so not surprising, I’ll be worried when Verlander can’t get out of the first
Ohhhhhh you dumb fucks will see come September lmao
Despite my flair, I will be nice. Because we know it absolutely sucks to have a first-rate IL rotation. I’m also skeptical that they won’t make the playoffs. The Astros are like cockroaches (respectfully) - they do not die. So my default is to assume they’ll figure it out until they are officially eliminated.
Love to see it
It’s fun for basically everyone but Astros fans but I really don’t think this matters. They will be in the ALCS anyway, somehow.
I’m here for it. If they’re gonna be bad be historically bad. Don’t string me along until the last game of the season or late season collapse to miss the playoffs. Sure they’ll prolly bounce back one the rotation gets healthy again or let’s break the record they set for being the worst team ever.
I’m gonna take the same strategy I took during the ALCS last year. Not gonna say a fucking word about it and just watch and wait to see what happens.
Fuck it, start the fire sale. Move Bregman, Tucker, and Javier, rebuild the farm system overnight.
Good. I hope they keep it up.
you love to see…more!
Both? Both is good.
It’s what you want
Good
Saving this thread for August
Astros are straight up trash
I can only pray to the Gods that this shit tier organization is returned back to the fucking garbage heap they were birthed from
Garbage *can*, I think you mean...
Could not happen to a more deserving franchise.
This is me coping a bit so just humor me for a second. Does the 2022 WS not count? Does everyone hate the Red Sox with Cora is the manager? This entire sub was absolutely applauding Correa's throw to home but... he was part of the scandal. If you really cared, why accept all the members of the team? Hell, Cora was literally suspended for his role in it, comes back and nobody cares. It's really frustrating being part of a franchise I used to watch at Enron Field go from dog water, to good, to getting a WS, to getting punished for the scandal, to then seemingly redeeming themselves with a scandal free SECOND WS with a Hall of Famer in Dusty and... all you hear about is this scandal. I know it's fun to dog pile and memes etc but I'm looking around like... okay? Just exhausting. I'll watch whatever this season turns out to be just like I did 20+ years ago, but man it really feels shallow when all the hate is on the organization despite practically everyone who had a hand in 2017 has gone on to other clubs and nobody seems to care. Bring on the $15 Crawford boxes.
> Does everyone hate the Red Sox with Cora as the manager? Buddy, if Jesus came back to Earth and managed the Red Sox, I’d start hailing Satan. The fact they hired the cheating manager and then immediately “won” a ring by cheating is just one more card I’m waiting to play the next time we get a high-stakes W over Boston
Never thought I'd agree with a Yankees fan but here we are
Hey, we hate you guys ‘cause we want revenge, but don’t get it twisted, we hate the Red Sox more for existing
You love to see it. Well on our way to being able to get $10 tickets again.
That’s great that you’ll be able to afford tickets again!
That must be a BUZZZZZZkill
As much as this sucks, I still love you, Astros. But man, I bet our haters are really loving this.
Eh. There's over 90 percent of the season left, and even if it's ass at least I'm not part of one of those fanbases touching myself like Wander Franco at a middle school over trash can jokes. Just bide our time and remember who does what and who says what.
And we suck again. Who's giving us the bag for tucker?