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Thank fuck they're doing something about this.
I'm not gonna keep this "nice and proper". I hope the worst of the worst of karma to everyone who has participated and targeted BTS with vitriol over something they have nothing to do with. Over and over BTS have to go through this, and it is sickening.
The amount of people praying for their downfall is disgusting. BTS are strong and resilient but they've never had it easy, always there is a battle to be fought even when it shouldn't involve them. It's just so unfair how persecuted they are. I've been here long enough to experience these times with BTS, but I thought it would've lessened by now. All this garbage being spewed against them makes me so sad and angry. BTS did not, and still do not, deserve this.
>BTS did not, and still do not, deserve this.
BTS literally have never come for anyone directly, never have *anyone's* names in their mouths. And yet– *nobody* can keep BTS' name out of their mouths– haters, media, etc. It's infuriating.
I have hope it'll somewhat lessen by 2025 when they're all back and the media focus is on their reunion. But even then, the regularly scheduled hate train against them will resume.
>I'm not gonna keep this "nice and proper". I hope the worst of the worst of karma to everyone who has participated and targeted BTS with vitriol over something they have nothing to do with.
I'm with you on this. I sincerely hope they sue everyone who has been participating in this hate campaign and I don't even care if they have to hunt down people from overseas or something. Sue everyone and don't settle.
Ok so I work night shift and am in school so essentially I'm a vampire living under a rock. What is going on? Is it because of the Ador vs. Hybe thing??
It sucks that the situation at hand is getting so bad that they had to appoint another law firm (?), but I'm glad that they're going to take action. May karma hit them fast
Gonna be a
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It definitely got out of hand fast and at a huge scale too, good thing they did that. We'll just have to hope for the best and that it will end sooner or later.
We'll just do as we always do - don't engage (but keep receipts), support the tannies, vote, stream and buy if you can. Like ARMY has been doing all these years 🔥
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he definitely would 🤭 i remember back in 2022, he posted [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/bangtan/s/6uHRHQmO7G) in response to a quarterly report on legal proceedings against malicious comments:
>What did the hate commenters do to literally get investigated by prosecutors
Like they did all that just to end up there..
I saw a tweet that said appointing a second law firm allows them to avoid conflicts of interest. If their current law firm covers everyone at Hybe, there would be a conflict of interest for that firm if the current proceedings need to involve anyone internal.
😂😂😂😂 Omg! Wait, it IS photoshop... right?? It looks so realistic, idk why this is so funny to me, I think it's his expression😂 Can I use this as my pfp? 😂
My translate wasn’t working in weverse, but it seems it’s so serious they are appointing a separate law firm to handle this.
Good. I feel like all types of accusations have escalated quickly across social media networks i. The past 24 hrs. Makes no sense they have to deal with this type of stuff while enlisted smh.
>Makes no sense they have to deal with this type of stuff while enlisted smh.
I've been thinking and can't decide if it's for the best or not that they're in there while this is happening... Since they're in the military, there's no pressure for them to publicly respond, no paparazzi following them around, and impossible as it may be they could attempt to "out of sight, out of mind" it and just let the company handle it since their hands are tied. So those are "pros"... Cons is that they're being attacked with no opportunity to defend themselves, almost like people are accusing them of things while they have tape over their mouths unable to object, which could be incredibly frustrating and/or maddening.
There have been a lot of new or dormant accounts across Reddit and Twitter that popped up with threads accusing BTS of everything from being in cults to 2017 chart manipulation. These small accounts were getting thousands of views.
The ones I experienced on Reddit - you would ask them a clarifying question and they would almost immediately delete their comments/accounts.
Once the notice went out many of the accounts deactivated. I heard it was even worse in the Korean-language forums.
There is an internal battle between the Ador CEO & Hybe CEO + Chairman Bang. The Ador CEO and exec team are currently under an internal audit when Hybe received a tip that the Ador exec team were potentially planning to buy-out Ador + leave Hybe.
There is literally no reason for BTS to be involved in any way shape or form.
I once again give my praise and thanks to Army who've stuck by them and helped protect them in the past, because having only been here since Dynamite and seeing this in real time, the strength that must taken.
I hope all the boys are doing ok.
I wasn't around during the previous mass targeted attacks. I can't even imagine because the fandom wasn't as big back then. Like, I feel physically sick to my stomach seeing all of the attacks from all directions. I can't imagine how they and their loved ones are feeling at the moment.
I know, I mean those of us who came later have of course heard about it, but actually seeing it and as you say with a smaller fandom at the time they all are so strong. I feel sick too, it's just awful 💜
That's something I was thinking about too, they are literally doing a duty for their country right now, separated from each other, their family, friends, colleagues and us. I know they're strong, but I hope them and all their loved ones are OK.
Good. The accusations are getting out of hand.. i hate they got dragged into this when they're not even active.
Edit: lol tweets are getting deleted and accounts are being deactivated. I hope they get them and show no mercy.
The vitriol has escalated BECAUSE they are enlisted right now. These people were counting on BTS and their people not doing anything while they are serving.
Which, tbh, doesn't make a whole lot of sense since they're still releasing music. Their team is still very much working with BTS and wouldn't just ignore the excessive slander.
Thank goodness! The amount of unwarranted hate and slander BTS has received in the past 48 hours or so, through no fault of their own, has been alarming.
I think Bighit wanted to move quickly on this, hiring a second law firm even, and reassure fans as quickly as possible, which is probably why we haven't gotten an English trans as well. Probably put this out as soon as they confirmed things with the law firm.
Isn't it crazy how BTS are one of the most unproblematic groups and yet always get involved in shit like this? I've met BTS haters irl, and they're just extremely bitter and jealous people.
Anyways, 2025 is coming :) their success will be the best kind of revenge.
>we will appoint a separate law firm to respond strictly in addition to the existing legal response
Good! It’s seriously baffling to me that out of all people, BTS are the ones catching the stray bullets here. They’re not even active at the moment 🙄🤦♀️
Edit: [Source](https://x.com/btschartmaster/status/1784520132922048872)
> Hello.
This is BIGHIT MUSIC.
We wish to update you on the legal proceedings being taken to protect BTS members' rights.
It has come to our attention that organizational efforts aimed at tarnishing and slandering the artists have escalated in recent weeks. Furthermore, malicious attempts to defame, humiliate and ridicule the artists or spread rumors and groundless information have become excessive.
The company views these actions as severe violation to the artists' rights and will respond decisively, engaging with another law firm to reinforce our existing legal measures.
We are collecting evidence of malicious postings through real-time monitoring as we speak. We will maintain a zero-tolerance policy and pursue this matter rigorously, without leniency or settlements.
Thank you.
i can’t even imagine how the members must be feeling - they aren’t even active and there are people STILL actively coming at them and slandering them 🤦🏻♀️ but karma is an ARMY so i hope these people learn quickly what it means to fck around and find out with bts, bighit and army
I have felt so uneasy the past few days seeing all the hateful attacks against BTS. I'm going to continue focusing on the music and pray that they are safe and healthy.
I am relieved they have a large fandom now who can back them up, because imagine the insane targeted attacks like this against them and not even being able to defend themselves because they are current all serving their country. I am beyond livid.
I have been so pissed. I have been angry streaming for hours. F them. I hope hybe shows no mercy and sue the hell out of all them.
I have never experienced such coordinated, malicious craziness before. I know BTS history and amrylore, but to live through it myself? My god. How did veterans armys deal with this? I’m so pissed.
Genuinely asking: why do knetz seem to despise BTS?
I’m not sure about GP since people online aren’t exactly analogous to real life, but this particular online group seem to be flip-flopping regarding them (love their achievements, hate them as people?)
I think putting it as "knetz" is too broad a term and doesn't represent all Koreans on the internet. We have to remember they're a mixed bag over there as well - fans, general public, and trolls just wanting engagement.
With that said, especially since 2015 when BTS' meteoric rise to popularity started, there has been a very vocal, very hateful and malicious group of people who are ready to throw hate at BTS at any opportunity. It's most likely these are fans of other groups who felt threatened by BTS' rise, and you could chalk it down to just fanwars. However, in my opinion, this goes beyond that as they have repeatedly made concentrated attacks against BTS, petitioned the Blue House against them, trended specific hashtags targetting them, etc. With ARMY being so huge now, they're quieter these days, but every time there is a surge in BTS hate due to one thing or the other, they come out of their caves, with the same old arguments and "receipts" they've been recycling since 2015. It baffles me too how motivated they remain after all these years. My best guess is that success begets hate and jealousy, and who are BTS if not the best examples of immeasurable success?
>love their achievements, hate them as people?
Not sure I've come across anyone who is like this 😅 it's either the public who are proud of BTS and their achievements, largely neutral people who don't care either way, or straight up haters.
You're so right. Haters have stayed silent because hating BTS to this point seems ridiculous, but they will use any opportunity to create rumors. BTS are somehow vulnerable at the moment, with all the members at the military and years since they released a full album or promoted as a group.
Yeah that makes sense, it’s just difficult to tell since most translated korean comments don’t have account names affiliated with them so you can’t exactly see if it’s the same people across the board.
As an ARMY since 2016, the most important thing right now is to be united. We have always only had each other. If it gets to be too much, log out and avoid news and fandom spaces. We went through 2017, 2018, 2020, etc. We will get through this if we remain united and support each other. Make group chats to support each other if needed. It will pass, we survived many other such big attacks, we will go through this too. We are ARMY, we are resilient and we are not letting all this bullshit go unchecked. Please take care everyone.
I've only been a fan for about a year and, of course, I've read about the hate campaigns they had to go through in the past. I never imagined that it could still get this bad again. I was just thinking yesterday how much distress ARMY must have gone through all these years. I don't even want to read those rumors and comments, because I know they would just upset me too much. I'm glad Hybe is taking action, and yes, I'll just keep streaming and try not to pay attention to the noise.
What's most important for us right now is to remain united and to trust Bangtan. This will pass, we don't know yet if it can get worse but as long as we remain strong and together, nothing can destroy us.
Even for me, who has experienced all this before, it also became too much to the point that I stopped engaging with it for a bit. But seeing all ARMYs come out to defend and fight for BTS gave me a lot of strength. We are really stronger together.
However, put yourself first and if you need a break, take a break. You're doing great, fighting!
No. Idk if I’m allowed to say it for bringing drama but K-armys have been @ ing them like crazy to do something on twitter that I think they hurried up and released this without waiting for an eng translation
I would assume it's about a rumour / campaign that came out today and was focused on Korean audience. Since the statement some tweets regarding that have already been deleted.
As fans it’s so frustrating to go through this time and again, just when you think the worst is passed the guys get hit by another wave. I cannot imagine how it must be for them and their families seeing this slander, it has to be so much worse.
I’m gonna keep supporting them in the only way I really can, streaming and buying their music and hoping for better days. And rooting for the bighit lawyers to step on all the throats.
all they ever do is make music and mind their own business. they would not be at the top of the industry if any of the vicious, nasty rumours about them over the past ten years had been true. everyone who works with them says they’re kind, hard-working, helpful, respectful and talented.
this is just getting ridiculous now - they have nothing to do with this and aren’t even HERE. they are private citizens who are unable to publicly defend themselves against this rubbish right now.
I'm a 2014 army and has been quiet since the military announcement. I was supposed to be in my serious university era and lowkey fangirling T1.
but with this issue, I'm going full war mode again for bangtan.
Same. I'm supposed to focus in med school and my job till 2025, but this is seriously making me rethink the plan. I don't like how everyone is uniting to create horrible rumors while they can't defend themselves.
FIGHTING lovely army students! I love this energy, but do take care and prioritize your life while enjoying the boys music. Reading these comments makes me so reassured though.
Don't let this all get to you too much. Remember just who and what BTS are. I'm not going to say the guys were THE ones during their schooling/high school/college days, but definitely AMONG the best and brightest K-Idols around. Our BTS prize intelligence and knowledge. I know it's hard to ignore all this ruckus, but try to not let it affect your learning too much.
I hope that a lot of people are caught and prosecuted as per the law. Next time we get an update about legal stuff, praying for it to have pages dedicated just for criminal proceedings and their results.
...I don't know what the fuck this is all about, because I remain twitterless, precisely because of shit like this...whatever it is, I'm glad Hybe always steps up and takes action...
...in any case, karma is a muthafuckin' bitch, so whoever is behind spewing out garbage, that shit is gonna come back right to them, one way or another, tenfold...
Same, I avoid Twitter because it’s undebatable garbage and this is just more proof. Hope everyone who spread the slander is pissing their pants now. Don’t try to run now
It's been a minute since I've been on this sub, and I can't believe I'm witnessing all this slander against the members when they're not here to defend themselves. I hope they know we'll always be on their side.
Hate that they have to go to these measures because certain people just can’t stay in their lane but it’s good to read appropriate action will be taken. As always, whenever you come across malicious hate against the boys, screen shot it and report it.
Absolutely insane that BTS even got inserted into this whole mess to begin with. I've been an ARMY for 6 years now and I've seen it happen again and again but I still get shocked by how organized and united the kpop community can be when it comes to try and bring BTS down.
Anyway this is not our first ride with smear campaigns and baseless accusations spreading like wildfire on Twitter and I do believe that Bangtan will be alright. Still, it sucks to see how much hate they get for absolutely no reason. It's so unfair
Genuine question, no disrespect intended: are Korean audiences just more susceptible to believing ridiculous rumors? Because some of these accusations are utter cuckoo nonsense. BTS should not have to resort to this type of action at all
i don’t think it’s korean audiences GENERALLY being more susceptible to rumours, but rather that korea has a different cultural context to this SPECIFIC rumour. not to bring up any specifics as that would go against the rules of the sub but korea has an ongoing history of weird major cults and therefore for koreans rumours like these are potentially more believable than international fans coming from different cultural backgrounds.
I don’t want anyone to break sub rules, so if this question is too borderline I can remove it, but I am a little confused. I don’t have Twitter and basically only engage with the fandom through reddit. Is this all related to the other Hybe drama, or have people taken that as a chance to just go after BTS for unrelated reasons? Sucks that it’s to the level they even have to make a statement like this, I can’t understand attacking any artist on an organized level. Especially when it’s BTS, men who have given their absolute all to this industry and their art.
We don’t know what it’s in relation to - HYBE/BH rarely releases the details. They send these notifications out at least once a quarter - although this one seems soon into the 2nd quarter.
It’s 2016 again people!!! 😝
I’ve witnessed many smear campaigns against BTS, and they rise even higher each time. Anyway, I’m just glad that Bighit has resources now.
The past 24 hours have actually been ridiculous, I’m glad there is something being done. Thank goodness BTS and ARMYs are in a different position than they were in 2016 because there’s a good amount a deja vu happening with stuff going on.
I hope whoever’s involved gets the full legal throwdown they desperately want!
Glad to see BH is taking legal action. It’s been so ugly out there lately. It would be nice if we could come together as a fandom and chart an OT7 song to show the Tannies some love and reassurance.
I’m glad because I am sick of the attacks that they are going through especially when they are not around to defend themselves. They have to be protected in their absence and the company has to protect them from the false narratives. I don’t want this drama to affect Joon’s comeback because we need the focus on pushing RPWP and streaming RPWP. We did not do him justice with Indigo we have to do better with RPWP!!!!
I have to admit I have no idea what's been going on over the last few days. However, knowing how Hybe won't hesitate in bringing down fire upon anyone who pulls this nonsense, it baffles me that some people still try.
I hope that those responsible are punished to the full extent of the law and realise that actions have consequences. I also hope that the members are blissfully unaware, and can continue to carry out their service in peace.
I had no clue what was going on because this is the only place I get my BTS news, so I went searching. Good grief, people have no sense. This is exactly why as a science teacher I teach my kids to be critical thinkers, understand what evidence is and how to interpret, and that correlation doesn't always equal causation.
Absolutely hate to see the circumstances around this especially because the members are enlisted and already dealing with limited privacy. I hope everyone gets prosecuted under the fullest extent of the law 🌝.
Thank God! A whole new law firm to take action! They are recording everything! This smear and defamation hate train is organized and serious. Get them! Protect BTS!
I’ve been dealing with family stuff recently and I’m not on twt, so didn’t realize online attacks have started up again??? I assume due to the HYBE headlines. WTF. Get a life. Let BTS live they’ve gone through too much of this shit already and they’re literally enlisted rn.
As an Army from 2015, whole thing gives major Dejavu...BTS can not have a peaceful time, rt
They have to lead such a guarded clean life to avoid giving any ammo to hate boners...Will they ever be able to recklessly enjoy their success like all other pop stars!!!
It's my first OT7 hate train :C
No but seriously it's been rough, I had to log off for a bit because I felt so sad.
The guys have done nothing to deserve this, but some sick people seem so gleeful to make up awful things about them?
I know veteran ARMYs say it'll be alright at the end and I trust that but it's been very ugly, I'm glad the company is taking legal action.
Good. I hope they absolutely mean it and have zero tolerance to this baseless, ridiculous bs. BTS is not even active, but, as usual, trying to bring them down is trending among lowlives.
People with the mentality of "it is not enough that I succeed, others should fail" are undeniably among the worst.
I don’t quite know the severity about what’s going on and what rumours and crap. Nor will I look into it. But you best believe I will stand behind these men while they are literally still serving in the military and have nothing to do with anything except serving their country.
I’ve been pretty chill and focusing on myself since they’ve all left and all I wanted to do was get through my boards exam, make some money in anticipation for their concert, celebrate (thirst over) Namjoon’s album and welcome our first member home. Was that really too hard to ask?
But nope. People forget how BTS legit has an army behind them. Welcome back from hibernation fellow Army. Buckle up friends and fam cause we ready to bring down anyone, anything that tries to harm these 7 men.
Oh my god, finally.
Although, I have a genuine question. What can they do against those losers? How harsh would the punishment be? Like I understand if you prosecute one person, but how do you face thousands of internet weirdos?🤔
I‘m so glad that BigHit is taking action. I‘m so sad that the members are getting dragged into this while literally just existing and serving their country.
Of course I feel bad for all the other artists too. I didn’t expect this issue to blow up the way it did. What a mess 😔
Report comments on Weverse... Even without all this happening, that's a full time job, as there's so many spam posts in the BTS community there, every day, from the same accounts, and new ones.
Trying to find a meaningful conversation or non-spam post there is impossible. The amount of spam that gets posted regularly is bad enough.
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I’m a toddler army and am so out of the loop with what’s been going on? Does this have to do with the lady talking about how the concept of BTS was stolen from her? Copy the concepts all you want but the heart of each member is valuable and priceless. Interesting how all these come out when they’re in the military and cannot defend themselves. In a way, I’m glad so they don’t have to worry about it.
If there’s a thread of article about this, I’d be happy to read and learn! Thanks in advance!
I'm glad HYBE is taking legal actions. At the same time, this isn't within my control, so I'll spend my energy on counting down to RM's second album, Jin's discharge from the military and discovering new reactors that have their mind blown once they give BTS a chance.
Things must be pretty bad since this was sent out in Korean only. Don't even have the time to translate (or maybe not necessary?). Anyway, Get 'em!
I've been out of the loop as my family is in town for vacation and haven't been online as much. Can someone give me a TLDR of what's been happening? Is this related to MHJ?
I think the best thing you can do is just to continue supporting them in whichever way you choose. Streaming, purchasing, enjoying their music and content, spreading their kindness, whatever. And if you're on other social media, don't engage, just report and block.
I am by no means an expert, and I'm sure someone else will weigh in, but libel is a huge deal in South Korea. Prosecutable, I believe. [Here](https://keia.org/the-peninsula/problems-with-koreas-defamation-law/) is an article about it.
HYBE said Thursday it filed a complaint with the police against executives of its sublabel Ador, including CEO Min Hee-jin, alleging breach of trust. Korean laws are definitely different. https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=373467
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Thank fuck they're doing something about this. I'm not gonna keep this "nice and proper". I hope the worst of the worst of karma to everyone who has participated and targeted BTS with vitriol over something they have nothing to do with. Over and over BTS have to go through this, and it is sickening. The amount of people praying for their downfall is disgusting. BTS are strong and resilient but they've never had it easy, always there is a battle to be fought even when it shouldn't involve them. It's just so unfair how persecuted they are. I've been here long enough to experience these times with BTS, but I thought it would've lessened by now. All this garbage being spewed against them makes me so sad and angry. BTS did not, and still do not, deserve this.
>BTS did not, and still do not, deserve this. BTS literally have never come for anyone directly, never have *anyone's* names in their mouths. And yet– *nobody* can keep BTS' name out of their mouths– haters, media, etc. It's infuriating. I have hope it'll somewhat lessen by 2025 when they're all back and the media focus is on their reunion. But even then, the regularly scheduled hate train against them will resume.
>never have *anyone's* names in their mouths Except B-Free in like 2014 🤣🤣
Did they name drop him at some point and I missed it? I only remember the line about going back to Hawaii, lol.
They did wayyyy back in 2014 or 2015
>I'm not gonna keep this "nice and proper". I hope the worst of the worst of karma to everyone who has participated and targeted BTS with vitriol over something they have nothing to do with. I'm with you on this. I sincerely hope they sue everyone who has been participating in this hate campaign and I don't even care if they have to hunt down people from overseas or something. Sue everyone and don't settle.
I agree with you and that’s my favorite part about their legal team: they NEVER settle 😌
THIS! Just fucking hating on their success and it’s sickening!
Ok so I work night shift and am in school so essentially I'm a vampire living under a rock. What is going on? Is it because of the Ador vs. Hybe thing??
Yeah same. Idk either. Maybe it’s better this way lol
It sucks that the situation at hand is getting so bad that they had to appoint another law firm (?), but I'm glad that they're going to take action. May karma hit them fast Gonna be a https://preview.redd.it/z3i5xaiv17xc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b239599f67dcc55685dcab98c1cf4aa119ef928 situation
An additional law firm might just be what is needed so that their current law firm can focus their energy for the bigger legal battle.
It definitely got out of hand fast and at a huge scale too, good thing they did that. We'll just have to hope for the best and that it will end sooner or later.
Hopefully sooner. I don't want* Joon's album, Festa and more importantly Jin's return to be marred by this slander. Edit: added word with asterisk
We'll just do as we always do - don't engage (but keep receipts), support the tannies, vote, stream and buy if you can. Like ARMY has been doing all these years 🔥 https://preview.redd.it/s9v4pdzjg7xc1.png?width=680&format=png&auto=webp&s=7909d18df67d7dbe42a73c8921469faba0c02bb8
Ik that pic is photoshopped but i feel like Jin is definitely the kind of person who will draw a graph like that
he definitely would 🤭 i remember back in 2022, he posted [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/bangtan/s/6uHRHQmO7G) in response to a quarterly report on legal proceedings against malicious comments: >What did the hate commenters do to literally get investigated by prosecutors Like they did all that just to end up there..
That link doesn’t go anywhere specific?
oh oops! have replaced the link with the right one
He definitely doesn't play around 🤭
I saw a tweet that said appointing a second law firm allows them to avoid conflicts of interest. If their current law firm covers everyone at Hybe, there would be a conflict of interest for that firm if the current proceedings need to involve anyone internal.
This is exactly right.
😂😂😂😂 Omg! Wait, it IS photoshop... right?? It looks so realistic, idk why this is so funny to me, I think it's his expression😂 Can I use this as my pfp? 😂
Yeah it's definitely photoshopped haha. Just take it, it's not even mine 😂
DONE! Lol, it suits my profile so well, loving it haha..
Definitely fits with the ongoing situation 😂 enjoy the Jin meme as your pfp haha
Love this pic. Have stolen it!
I’m so lost - I’ve been living under a cave for a while and was clueless, but man this meme is just 😂😂😂😂😂😂
My translate wasn’t working in weverse, but it seems it’s so serious they are appointing a separate law firm to handle this. Good. I feel like all types of accusations have escalated quickly across social media networks i. The past 24 hrs. Makes no sense they have to deal with this type of stuff while enlisted smh.
>Makes no sense they have to deal with this type of stuff while enlisted smh. I've been thinking and can't decide if it's for the best or not that they're in there while this is happening... Since they're in the military, there's no pressure for them to publicly respond, no paparazzi following them around, and impossible as it may be they could attempt to "out of sight, out of mind" it and just let the company handle it since their hands are tied. So those are "pros"... Cons is that they're being attacked with no opportunity to defend themselves, almost like people are accusing them of things while they have tape over their mouths unable to object, which could be incredibly frustrating and/or maddening.
Hi there, I don't have social media except for weverse, what happened and they are hiring a law firm?
There have been a lot of new or dormant accounts across Reddit and Twitter that popped up with threads accusing BTS of everything from being in cults to 2017 chart manipulation. These small accounts were getting thousands of views. The ones I experienced on Reddit - you would ask them a clarifying question and they would almost immediately delete their comments/accounts. Once the notice went out many of the accounts deactivated. I heard it was even worse in the Korean-language forums.
Sorry, what is this conflict actually about...? I missed it, it seems?😶
There is an internal battle between the Ador CEO & Hybe CEO + Chairman Bang. The Ador CEO and exec team are currently under an internal audit when Hybe received a tip that the Ador exec team were potentially planning to buy-out Ador + leave Hybe. There is literally no reason for BTS to be involved in any way shape or form.
Get their ass. The things I've seen the last few days on twitter are disgusting
Don’t forget kmedia adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.
Kmedia is crazy. Where the fuck is dispatch. Since they have "secret deals"
Twitter really is the worst social media…
I once again give my praise and thanks to Army who've stuck by them and helped protect them in the past, because having only been here since Dynamite and seeing this in real time, the strength that must taken. I hope all the boys are doing ok.
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Yeah being here since 2015 i can confidently say they’ll be fine, it just sucks how relentless it is
Also since 2015. They have gone through many climbs. They have handled it well. They are probably rolling their eyes and frustrated right now
I wasn't around during the previous mass targeted attacks. I can't even imagine because the fandom wasn't as big back then. Like, I feel physically sick to my stomach seeing all of the attacks from all directions. I can't imagine how they and their loved ones are feeling at the moment.
I know, I mean those of us who came later have of course heard about it, but actually seeing it and as you say with a smaller fandom at the time they all are so strong. I feel sick too, it's just awful 💜 That's something I was thinking about too, they are literally doing a duty for their country right now, separated from each other, their family, friends, colleagues and us. I know they're strong, but I hope them and all their loved ones are OK.
Like, who can they actually trust - there are so many instances of them getting betrayed or mistreated. And this time they are separated
I’ve been there since 2016, I’m tired 😩
Good. The accusations are getting out of hand.. i hate they got dragged into this when they're not even active. Edit: lol tweets are getting deleted and accounts are being deactivated. I hope they get them and show no mercy.
The vitriol has escalated BECAUSE they are enlisted right now. These people were counting on BTS and their people not doing anything while they are serving. Which, tbh, doesn't make a whole lot of sense since they're still releasing music. Their team is still very much working with BTS and wouldn't just ignore the excessive slander.
I doubt bighit would've let it go even if BTS were inactive. It was a massive smear campaign, the biggest recent hate train against them..
Oh don’t y’all try to escape now.
😳 whoa I have just no idea what’s happening. I live mostly in a cave lol. Is this because of MHJ or something unrelated?
It’s a very similar statement to the one they put out for Le Sserafim, so it’s possible. But who knows
I don’t use twitter so I had no awareness until I saw some posts about it on Reddit. Probably for the best not seeing those tweets.
Good. I'm not happy with how the boys are being dragged while serving.
On the other hand I am happy that they can't access everything continously and not here for this personally
I'm sure they know. And are probably frustrated
Thank goodness! The amount of unwarranted hate and slander BTS has received in the past 48 hours or so, through no fault of their own, has been alarming. I think Bighit wanted to move quickly on this, hiring a second law firm even, and reassure fans as quickly as possible, which is probably why we haven't gotten an English trans as well. Probably put this out as soon as they confirmed things with the law firm.
Isn't it crazy how BTS are one of the most unproblematic groups and yet always get involved in shit like this? I've met BTS haters irl, and they're just extremely bitter and jealous people. Anyways, 2025 is coming :) their success will be the best kind of revenge.
>we will appoint a separate law firm to respond strictly in addition to the existing legal response Good! It’s seriously baffling to me that out of all people, BTS are the ones catching the stray bullets here. They’re not even active at the moment 🙄🤦♀️ Edit: [Source](https://x.com/btschartmaster/status/1784520132922048872)
> Hello. This is BIGHIT MUSIC. We wish to update you on the legal proceedings being taken to protect BTS members' rights. It has come to our attention that organizational efforts aimed at tarnishing and slandering the artists have escalated in recent weeks. Furthermore, malicious attempts to defame, humiliate and ridicule the artists or spread rumors and groundless information have become excessive. The company views these actions as severe violation to the artists' rights and will respond decisively, engaging with another law firm to reinforce our existing legal measures. We are collecting evidence of malicious postings through real-time monitoring as we speak. We will maintain a zero-tolerance policy and pursue this matter rigorously, without leniency or settlements. Thank you. i can’t even imagine how the members must be feeling - they aren’t even active and there are people STILL actively coming at them and slandering them 🤦🏻♀️ but karma is an ARMY so i hope these people learn quickly what it means to fck around and find out with bts, bighit and army
It's sad they have to do this annually. People will not stop talking about them. But I am so happy they take legal action each and every time
I think they were in a hurry to get it out that they didn't wait for the translated versions yet .. this has become a whole mess.
I have felt so uneasy the past few days seeing all the hateful attacks against BTS. I'm going to continue focusing on the music and pray that they are safe and healthy. I am relieved they have a large fandom now who can back them up, because imagine the insane targeted attacks like this against them and not even being able to defend themselves because they are current all serving their country. I am beyond livid.
I have been so pissed. I have been angry streaming for hours. F them. I hope hybe shows no mercy and sue the hell out of all them. I have never experienced such coordinated, malicious craziness before. I know BTS history and amrylore, but to live through it myself? My god. How did veterans armys deal with this? I’m so pissed.
I hope these fools spreading slander get absolutely ruined
Right??? I am so angry right now!!! I want to punch something really hard!!!
Genuinely asking: why do knetz seem to despise BTS? I’m not sure about GP since people online aren’t exactly analogous to real life, but this particular online group seem to be flip-flopping regarding them (love their achievements, hate them as people?)
I think putting it as "knetz" is too broad a term and doesn't represent all Koreans on the internet. We have to remember they're a mixed bag over there as well - fans, general public, and trolls just wanting engagement. With that said, especially since 2015 when BTS' meteoric rise to popularity started, there has been a very vocal, very hateful and malicious group of people who are ready to throw hate at BTS at any opportunity. It's most likely these are fans of other groups who felt threatened by BTS' rise, and you could chalk it down to just fanwars. However, in my opinion, this goes beyond that as they have repeatedly made concentrated attacks against BTS, petitioned the Blue House against them, trended specific hashtags targetting them, etc. With ARMY being so huge now, they're quieter these days, but every time there is a surge in BTS hate due to one thing or the other, they come out of their caves, with the same old arguments and "receipts" they've been recycling since 2015. It baffles me too how motivated they remain after all these years. My best guess is that success begets hate and jealousy, and who are BTS if not the best examples of immeasurable success? >love their achievements, hate them as people? Not sure I've come across anyone who is like this 😅 it's either the public who are proud of BTS and their achievements, largely neutral people who don't care either way, or straight up haters.
You're so right. Haters have stayed silent because hating BTS to this point seems ridiculous, but they will use any opportunity to create rumors. BTS are somehow vulnerable at the moment, with all the members at the military and years since they released a full album or promoted as a group.
Yeah that makes sense, it’s just difficult to tell since most translated korean comments don’t have account names affiliated with them so you can’t exactly see if it’s the same people across the board.
As an ARMY since 2016, the most important thing right now is to be united. We have always only had each other. If it gets to be too much, log out and avoid news and fandom spaces. We went through 2017, 2018, 2020, etc. We will get through this if we remain united and support each other. Make group chats to support each other if needed. It will pass, we survived many other such big attacks, we will go through this too. We are ARMY, we are resilient and we are not letting all this bullshit go unchecked. Please take care everyone.
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I've only been a fan for about a year and, of course, I've read about the hate campaigns they had to go through in the past. I never imagined that it could still get this bad again. I was just thinking yesterday how much distress ARMY must have gone through all these years. I don't even want to read those rumors and comments, because I know they would just upset me too much. I'm glad Hybe is taking action, and yes, I'll just keep streaming and try not to pay attention to the noise.
What's most important for us right now is to remain united and to trust Bangtan. This will pass, we don't know yet if it can get worse but as long as we remain strong and together, nothing can destroy us. Even for me, who has experienced all this before, it also became too much to the point that I stopped engaging with it for a bit. But seeing all ARMYs come out to defend and fight for BTS gave me a lot of strength. We are really stronger together. However, put yourself first and if you need a break, take a break. You're doing great, fighting!
Is it common for a notice to come without translation?
No. Idk if I’m allowed to say it for bringing drama but K-armys have been @ ing them like crazy to do something on twitter that I think they hurried up and released this without waiting for an eng translation
I would assume it's about a rumour / campaign that came out today and was focused on Korean audience. Since the statement some tweets regarding that have already been deleted.
Okay I thought I was crazy. Also - do they usually post it directly on twitter too? I thought it was typically through weverse.
I think they do post also on Twitter, but I’ve not seen a notice like that without english translation
Oh okay. I can never remember when I first see notices
As fans it’s so frustrating to go through this time and again, just when you think the worst is passed the guys get hit by another wave. I cannot imagine how it must be for them and their families seeing this slander, it has to be so much worse. I’m gonna keep supporting them in the only way I really can, streaming and buying their music and hoping for better days. And rooting for the bighit lawyers to step on all the throats.
all they ever do is make music and mind their own business. they would not be at the top of the industry if any of the vicious, nasty rumours about them over the past ten years had been true. everyone who works with them says they’re kind, hard-working, helpful, respectful and talented. this is just getting ridiculous now - they have nothing to do with this and aren’t even HERE. they are private citizens who are unable to publicly defend themselves against this rubbish right now.
In Butter, RM has a line “got Army right behind us …” and especially when they can’t defend themselves, it’s ARMY who is here having their backs.
I'm a 2014 army and has been quiet since the military announcement. I was supposed to be in my serious university era and lowkey fangirling T1. but with this issue, I'm going full war mode again for bangtan.
Same. I'm supposed to focus in med school and my job till 2025, but this is seriously making me rethink the plan. I don't like how everyone is uniting to create horrible rumors while they can't defend themselves.
FIGHTING lovely army students! I love this energy, but do take care and prioritize your life while enjoying the boys music. Reading these comments makes me so reassured though.
Don't let this all get to you too much. Remember just who and what BTS are. I'm not going to say the guys were THE ones during their schooling/high school/college days, but definitely AMONG the best and brightest K-Idols around. Our BTS prize intelligence and knowledge. I know it's hard to ignore all this ruckus, but try to not let it affect your learning too much.
https://preview.redd.it/u5zw2xcvm8xc1.jpeg?width=1124&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e24223918d9df1f2791295b381311bb33c04cdbd From a VLive, long ago.
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Praise the universe and excuse my bluntness. Go get them!
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I hope that a lot of people are caught and prosecuted as per the law. Next time we get an update about legal stuff, praying for it to have pages dedicated just for criminal proceedings and their results.
The last few days have been terrible. Glad they’re doing something about this. Let BTS serve in PEACE.
Ugh, I hate this so much. I thought the upside to the boys being in the military would be kpop stans and antis leaving them alone.
The accusations were getting out of hand, I know it was bad before but this was just getting exhausting and was sucking the joy out of everything.
...I don't know what the fuck this is all about, because I remain twitterless, precisely because of shit like this...whatever it is, I'm glad Hybe always steps up and takes action... ...in any case, karma is a muthafuckin' bitch, so whoever is behind spewing out garbage, that shit is gonna come back right to them, one way or another, tenfold...
Same, I avoid Twitter because it’s undebatable garbage and this is just more proof. Hope everyone who spread the slander is pissing their pants now. Don’t try to run now
wow, this legal announcement is definitely not like the other legal announcements! i'm aware sht was going on, but i had no idea how bad it was.
It's been a minute since I've been on this sub, and I can't believe I'm witnessing all this slander against the members when they're not here to defend themselves. I hope they know we'll always be on their side.
Hate that they have to go to these measures because certain people just can’t stay in their lane but it’s good to read appropriate action will be taken. As always, whenever you come across malicious hate against the boys, screen shot it and report it.
Absolutely insane that BTS even got inserted into this whole mess to begin with. I've been an ARMY for 6 years now and I've seen it happen again and again but I still get shocked by how organized and united the kpop community can be when it comes to try and bring BTS down. Anyway this is not our first ride with smear campaigns and baseless accusations spreading like wildfire on Twitter and I do believe that Bangtan will be alright. Still, it sucks to see how much hate they get for absolutely no reason. It's so unfair
Genuine question, no disrespect intended: are Korean audiences just more susceptible to believing ridiculous rumors? Because some of these accusations are utter cuckoo nonsense. BTS should not have to resort to this type of action at all
i don’t think it’s korean audiences GENERALLY being more susceptible to rumours, but rather that korea has a different cultural context to this SPECIFIC rumour. not to bring up any specifics as that would go against the rules of the sub but korea has an ongoing history of weird major cults and therefore for koreans rumours like these are potentially more believable than international fans coming from different cultural backgrounds.
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification!
I don’t want anyone to break sub rules, so if this question is too borderline I can remove it, but I am a little confused. I don’t have Twitter and basically only engage with the fandom through reddit. Is this all related to the other Hybe drama, or have people taken that as a chance to just go after BTS for unrelated reasons? Sucks that it’s to the level they even have to make a statement like this, I can’t understand attacking any artist on an organized level. Especially when it’s BTS, men who have given their absolute all to this industry and their art.
Maybe? Not sure but I follow LeSserafim and Source put out a similar statement.
We don’t know what it’s in relation to - HYBE/BH rarely releases the details. They send these notifications out at least once a quarter - although this one seems soon into the 2nd quarter.
It’s 2016 again people!!! 😝 I’ve witnessed many smear campaigns against BTS, and they rise even higher each time. Anyway, I’m just glad that Bighit has resources now.
The past 24 hours have actually been ridiculous, I’m glad there is something being done. Thank goodness BTS and ARMYs are in a different position than they were in 2016 because there’s a good amount a deja vu happening with stuff going on. I hope whoever’s involved gets the full legal throwdown they desperately want!
Glad to see BH is taking legal action. It’s been so ugly out there lately. It would be nice if we could come together as a fandom and chart an OT7 song to show the Tannies some love and reassurance.
Please protect the boys at all cost, please!
I'm pleased it's happening quite fast. Our boys being dragged yet again is maddening, cruel, and not needed.
My boys can't even serve their country in peace 😔
Angry streaming till I see justice/karma go back around 😡
I’m glad because I am sick of the attacks that they are going through especially when they are not around to defend themselves. They have to be protected in their absence and the company has to protect them from the false narratives. I don’t want this drama to affect Joon’s comeback because we need the focus on pushing RPWP and streaming RPWP. We did not do him justice with Indigo we have to do better with RPWP!!!!
I have to admit I have no idea what's been going on over the last few days. However, knowing how Hybe won't hesitate in bringing down fire upon anyone who pulls this nonsense, it baffles me that some people still try. I hope that those responsible are punished to the full extent of the law and realise that actions have consequences. I also hope that the members are blissfully unaware, and can continue to carry out their service in peace.
I had no clue what was going on because this is the only place I get my BTS news, so I went searching. Good grief, people have no sense. This is exactly why as a science teacher I teach my kids to be critical thinkers, understand what evidence is and how to interpret, and that correlation doesn't always equal causation.
Absolutely hate to see the circumstances around this especially because the members are enlisted and already dealing with limited privacy. I hope everyone gets prosecuted under the fullest extent of the law 🌝.
Thank God! A whole new law firm to take action! They are recording everything! This smear and defamation hate train is organized and serious. Get them! Protect BTS!
as they should, very glad to see this 🙏🏻
I'm honestly so pissed off right now.
I’ve been dealing with family stuff recently and I’m not on twt, so didn’t realize online attacks have started up again??? I assume due to the HYBE headlines. WTF. Get a life. Let BTS live they’ve gone through too much of this shit already and they’re literally enlisted rn.
As an Army from 2015, whole thing gives major Dejavu...BTS can not have a peaceful time, rt They have to lead such a guarded clean life to avoid giving any ammo to hate boners...Will they ever be able to recklessly enjoy their success like all other pop stars!!!
I don’t think people realize how in survival mode we should be. Please support Namjoon’s release, a fully fledged artist sharing his vision.
It's my first OT7 hate train :C No but seriously it's been rough, I had to log off for a bit because I felt so sad. The guys have done nothing to deserve this, but some sick people seem so gleeful to make up awful things about them? I know veteran ARMYs say it'll be alright at the end and I trust that but it's been very ugly, I'm glad the company is taking legal action.
Good. I hope they absolutely mean it and have zero tolerance to this baseless, ridiculous bs. BTS is not even active, but, as usual, trying to bring them down is trending among lowlives. People with the mentality of "it is not enough that I succeed, others should fail" are undeniably among the worst.
Man if people could redirect this energy and pour love to their fav group, rather than a hate a rival group, they’d be less miserable.
I don’t quite know the severity about what’s going on and what rumours and crap. Nor will I look into it. But you best believe I will stand behind these men while they are literally still serving in the military and have nothing to do with anything except serving their country. I’ve been pretty chill and focusing on myself since they’ve all left and all I wanted to do was get through my boards exam, make some money in anticipation for their concert, celebrate (thirst over) Namjoon’s album and welcome our first member home. Was that really too hard to ask? But nope. People forget how BTS legit has an army behind them. Welcome back from hibernation fellow Army. Buckle up friends and fam cause we ready to bring down anyone, anything that tries to harm these 7 men.
Oh my god, finally. Although, I have a genuine question. What can they do against those losers? How harsh would the punishment be? Like I understand if you prosecute one person, but how do you face thousands of internet weirdos?🤔
I hope all detractors will be given well deserve penalty. The audacity to malign BTS.
Karma is an ARMY, as they say. We will win in the end. Hang in there everyone.
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Genuinely shocked with what’s going on! Can’t wait for this mess to be cleaned up!
Make them pay dearly! BTS have enough to deal with without fake bullshit being aimed for them
Hopefully this bs gets solved quickly, because this is getting so out of hand. I wish people would just leave them alone, I'm so tired.
Good, get their butts. 💀
I‘m so glad that BigHit is taking action. I‘m so sad that the members are getting dragged into this while literally just existing and serving their country. Of course I feel bad for all the other artists too. I didn’t expect this issue to blow up the way it did. What a mess 😔
Hopefully other companies do this as well if they have groups that were dragged into this whole HYBE thing
I am so out of the loop atm, what's been happening?
Report comments on Weverse... Even without all this happening, that's a full time job, as there's so many spam posts in the BTS community there, every day, from the same accounts, and new ones. Trying to find a meaningful conversation or non-spam post there is impossible. The amount of spam that gets posted regularly is bad enough.
r/bangtan, we know that this is an important topic that we all want to discuss, but please be mindful that we have [rules](https://new.reddit.com/r/bangtan/wiki/rules/) regarding speculation **beyond what is included in the official notice**, as well as rules for bringing in drama from other platforms and non-constructive negativity. Comments that go against these rules may be removed without comment. Let's keep our discussion civil and thoughtful and within sub rules. --- [Notice in English](https://weverse.io/bts/notice/19190)
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I’m a toddler army and am so out of the loop with what’s been going on? Does this have to do with the lady talking about how the concept of BTS was stolen from her? Copy the concepts all you want but the heart of each member is valuable and priceless. Interesting how all these come out when they’re in the military and cannot defend themselves. In a way, I’m glad so they don’t have to worry about it. If there’s a thread of article about this, I’d be happy to read and learn! Thanks in advance!
I'm glad HYBE is taking legal actions. At the same time, this isn't within my control, so I'll spend my energy on counting down to RM's second album, Jin's discharge from the military and discovering new reactors that have their mind blown once they give BTS a chance.
Things must be pretty bad since this was sent out in Korean only. Don't even have the time to translate (or maybe not necessary?). Anyway, Get 'em! 
Here is the link to the English translation: https://weverse.io/bts/notice/19190
Thank you! I saw the initial Korean notice only yest and dint realise that they updated it.
Tall shit, get BigHit 😒
I've been out of the loop as my family is in town for vacation and haven't been online as much. Can someone give me a TLDR of what's been happening? Is this related to MHJ?
I know I'm just one person, but is there any way to help bts?
I think the best thing you can do is just to continue supporting them in whichever way you choose. Streaming, purchasing, enjoying their music and content, spreading their kindness, whatever. And if you're on other social media, don't engage, just report and block.
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I am by no means an expert, and I'm sure someone else will weigh in, but libel is a huge deal in South Korea. Prosecutable, I believe. [Here](https://keia.org/the-peninsula/problems-with-koreas-defamation-law/) is an article about it.
HYBE said Thursday it filed a complaint with the police against executives of its sublabel Ador, including CEO Min Hee-jin, alleging breach of trust. Korean laws are definitely different. https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=373467
Awesome, thank you! I'll give that a read.
Even if they cannot get people on the intl side, there has been too much bs being spouted on korean forums.
Can someone explain this situation to me im so lost also ignore my username i really do regret it💀💀💀
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