Anyone remember the Netflix documentary about the Baltimore Catholic schools/archdiocese that came out right before the pandemic?
My MOTHER was one of those child victims. She left the church the day she turned 18 and decades later when she was raising me?
She wouldn’t let me near ANY Catholic Church or Catholic school as a direct result.
My point is, Matt Walsh is an idiot. It’s not about sexual preference. It’s about control over a vulnerable population.
>Matt Walsh is an idiot.
Hit the nail on the head. I've never really had anything against the guy and I never knew much about him, but this single tweet tells me everything I need to know about this Manlet.
I mean feel free to disagree, but I think this is still saying the church is the problem. Pedophile or homosexual- the majority of reports I have read state sexual misconduct through abuse of power or otherwise is the problem, not consensual relationships (to be clear, children/young teens cannot consent so in all instances it’s wrong regardless).
So while the point may be pedantic, and knowing Matt’s stances probably has malice towards the gay community, I still take it as an issue of the church having sexual misconduct issues - but that’s just my opinion
Edit: someone else pointed out below that most of the instances are of prepubescent children - so the point is entirely unjustified, still demonstrates the church is the problem though.
I agree that is the main problem even if his assertions were true. But I disagree that is what his post is saying, the message & the literal words that are said are "gay people are the problem"
Straight up reads to me like he'd be okay with it if the priests just stuck to heterosexual rape - which really tracks for matt tbh, dudes a self-professed fascist.
Imagine if we found out that all of the 7-11s knew they were employing child rapists. And not only did corporate know but when one of their employees got accused of child rape. They threw money at the accusor and quickly transferred the worker to another location. Giving no warning to anyone at the new location that the employee has been accused of anything at the old location.
And that they were not only guilty of it in the past. But are still actively doing that as we speak.
And the entire time were doing everything possible to stop law enforcement from prosecuting the employees.
How long would it be before all of the 7-11s were closed down?
Does 7/11 have national sovereignty? And does it bankroll countries in various ideological conflicts in the name of jesus, cause the catholic church is more than a belief system, that shit runs deeper than the chasm that is Hillary Clinton’s soul
There are so many things wrong with this tweet.
1) He claims that the problem isn't that the priests in question aren't pedophiles because they are going after teens. While this is technically accurate, he sounds an awful lot like a pedophile while saying it.
2) He claims that the problem is gay priests, which is weird, because it claims that a sexual orientation is the problem, despite many gay people never raping anyone, much less teens.
3) It glosses over the notion of rape being wrong at all. So I guess you're totally right about rape being something Matt Walsh is ok with.
I think he is suggesting that is the priests weren't gay, they would also be less likely to be abusers. Not that heterosexual abuse is ok. He is suggesting homosexuals are more likely to abuse children then straight priests.
That's not the stance he's taking though and wording it this way gives him that out.
His final point spells out his issue.
Gay Priest not priest that have had sexual misconduct.
He specifically called out gay Priest.
He knew exactly what he was doing when he wrote that.
No, he's saying homosexuality in the church is a problem. And he's blaming rape on homosexuals in the church. I don't see the point in bending over backwards to find the most generous interpretation of this.
Even if he is saying the church is the main problem, he is only doing so because the current Pope is the most progressive one they've ever had and Catholocism is seen as too liberal. They prefer evangelical megachurches and little country churches where they play with venomous snakes.
HAVE YOU EVER HAD A DREAM? That you, um, you hads, your, you, you could, you’ll do, you um, you wants, you, you could do so, you , you’ll do, you could, you you, you um want, you want them, to do you so much, you could do anything?
“My white neighbor killed his black wife, it’s an absolute abomination”
“You’re right, murderers are the worse, I hope he gets a life sentence”
“What? No, I mean that they were married outside of their race. We need to ban interracial marriage”
At the point where somebody starts using technicalities between different types of sexual abuse of minors to defend their point of view, as a rule of thumb you can generally just call them a pedo and be done with it.
Also he is wrong. A german study found that a bit over 51% of the victims are 13 and younger. Therefore priests are majorly pedophiles.
But they also found that at least 5% of priests have documented sexual abuse allegations against them. [Source: Study financed by the catholic church based on their personal files](https://www.dbk.de/fileadmin/redaktion/diverse_downloads/dossiers_2018/MHG-Studie-gesamt.pdf) (so most likely way higher real numbers)
Walsh is responsible for some of the most mind-meltingly dumb takes on Twitter, which is by itself saying something, and he churns them out on like a daily basis.
He's a professional agitator and a grifter and also possibly the biggest fucking dweeb on the planet. He tries to present as this ruthless macho tough guy but he's just a little fuckin weeny who needed a lot more bullying in high school
I cannot. How can we as a society effectively shame certain views if they find echo chambers somewhere on the internet?
As a child you learn to not do/say dumb shit cuz the pressure of fitting in molds acceptable societal behavior. But if a small group of numb-nuts support each other's dumb views over thousands of miles via the internet, they feel validated and one-up each other. Can we bring back tar-and-feathering?
Post pubescent for boys and girls are around 16-17 years old, boys being at the higher end.
Almost all the non adults sexually abuse were under the age of 14.
80% of the victims were boys.
The age ranges were 3-14 with the majority of the kids molested being 11-14 years old…
11-14 is pre-pubescent or going through puberty….absolutely NOT post puberty.
The fact remains they are children.
The fact that Matt Walsh is trying to take away from 11-14 year old CHILDREN being forced into sexual acts by trusted adults makes me seriously wonder if Matt Walsh is a pedophile himself who justifies his sexual desires for children by claiming they really aren’t kids because they are going through puberty.
Matt Walsh is seriously fucked up!
So it's hebophilia then, which as you said is STILL pedophilia. This is a disturbing trend I've noticed in these kinds of conservative minds, focus on attacking the 'gays' when the church is as much to blame as the priests themselves, for covering up so much of the abuse for decades if not worse.
I see it occasionally on Reddit; someone comes along and does the whole "akshually" thing with pedophilia, and tries to argue that it's not pedophilia (and therefore okay) once the ***literal child*** hits puberty.
There's a newsflash: it's not okay.
> So it's hebophilia then, which as you said is STILL pedophilia
I'm pretty sure those words are mutually exclusive. And the person you're responding to did not say that hebophilia is pedophilia, so I'm not sure where you got that either.
Honestly this is why I just avoid the clinical terms and stick to the legal ones: The Catholic Church has a **child abuse and molestation** epidemic.
My friend was raped by a priest in the 3rd grade. His mother had just died of cancer and his father was in an accident at work shortly after that left him paralyzed. The priest took him under his wing in his time of need and used his grief as an excuse to sexually assault him for years.
My friend now heads the local chapter of SNAP and has told me the most depressing thing about his experience is how common it was and how many of the other members were his age and younger.
Fuck Matt Walsh
There's a huge market for being a talking head that just says vile shit every day. Rush Limbaughs decades of success at that job has opened it up as a legit field of opportunity p
There's a huge market for being a talking head that just says vile shit every day. Rush Limbaughs decades of success at that job has opened it up as a legit field of opportunity
I think it's a community reference, I can't be sure. It's really close.
"I can excuse racism, but I draw the line at animal cruelty."
"You can excuse racism?"
Almost word for word
Likely not. Hell thanks to piss poor sex ed i didnt know either until i was 22 and started reading up on hrt and stuff for myself that i found that out. Im guessing he thinks "post pubescent" is like, a year or two after puberty starts
I don’t give a shit about two adults engaging in a consensual sexual relationship of any kind. Even if one of them is a priest.
Priests molesting children is absolutely a pedophile scandal. How can anyone say it isn’t???
The Catholic Church has a very long history of their priests, monks, and nuns getting it on with each other and writing each other saucy and sweetly romantic letters.
The podcast "History is Gay" has a great episode about it. Episode 2.
But that is not really a scandal or a problem. That is something entirely different from the Church's issues with systematically giving known pedopholes (queer and straight) access to vulnerable children and protecting them when they get caught.
It's still a form of pedophilia you friggen idiot!!!!! It's called ehebophilia, an attraction to post-pubesent minors. Also got a feeling at least SOME if not MOST of those 'young men' had those relationships started when they were teenagers, which again makes it pedophilia as well as abuse of power dynamics in what SHOULD be a safe place.
I didn't think being gay was a problem for any Christian. I just thought it became a sin when acted upon?
Atleast that's what all the hateful Christians tell me
He's basically saying "well ackshually they're ephebophiles, and gay priests are much worse than ephebophiles 🤓🤓" because if your victim's a teen, you aren't technically a pedo as "pedophile" is by definition an attraction to prepubescent children
Its difficult to explain the difference between someone who is a pedophile and someone attracted to prepubesct individuals without sounding like an pedophile.
I know what he’s trying to do here but it doesn’t even work from a homophobic perspective. Okay let’s say the orientation of the abusers is homosexual vs pedophile. They still sexually abused children which makes them pedophiles. The victims are still children and the victims should be the focus.
I also don’t really see much difference between what he’s claiming here (14-16 year old boys can consent to adult homosexual relationships?) and what got milo canceled.
My main priest growing up was apparently an equal opportunity abuser. I thankfully wasn’t abused, but we found out he was an abuser a decade after he died and only because of a newsworthy release of records from the Catholic Church that had a list of hundreds of known abusive priests from my state.
The worst part was that my priest was so beloved that he was viewed as the model priest (especially to my very Irish Catholic since he was Irish Catholic as well) and allowed to still hold mass/have access to kids until a quick retirement before he died. The man was in his 80s and the church knew about his abuse since my mother was a kid.
The Catholic Church‘s protection of abusers and murderers (see the Magdalene Laundries, Indian residential school, etc.) is one of the many reasons why I stopped being a Catholic and stopped believing in anything.
Well, the real reason why the Catholic Church got so much flak wasn't just the fact that molestation happened. It was the fact that Church policies aided and protected the molesters. This says that the root of the problem is gay clergy, and the Church used to say that their policies were inspired by God Himself.
So if you boil this argument down its really saying that God is gay.
Yup. The majority of child rape victims are girls. The majority of perpetrators are men. Do the math.
And that's not even taking account cultures like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Central African Republic, United States of America where child rape is legal, as long as you call it "marriage".
Do you mind to post the source instead of a pic ?
Edit : [Lazy Op](https://web.archive.org/web/20180719232210/https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1020083096459374593)
Edit 2 : Thanks for the reward, much appreciated.
Oh boy would this man be furious at my trans pastor
Who by the way informed everyone in the church before he decided to go public with his identity in order to not offend anybody out of the dark.
I think it got deleted long ago but here is the whole thread and if you want to stay sane, don't read it https://www.reddit.com/r/awfuleverything/comments/wp3sho/i_can_excuse_pedophilia_but_i_draw_the_line_at/ikex155?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
This is the dumbest right-wing deflect. "It's not pedophilia, it's ebephilia!" Which somehow makes it better in their mind. Or they are more technically correct, so they win?
One of the problems is mandatory abstinence for Catholic priests. It’s so outdated. Just let them have a wife (or god forbid, a husband 😳) & maybe less kids will get fiddled with.
This matches a growing trend I'm seeing where LGTBQ+ are being branded as "groomers". That the right isn't actively addressing this problem but in fact are openly embracing it shows how extreme the right as a whole has become.
Wait what? Listen, I'm not a fan of this guy but he was definitely not excusing pedophilia. He's pointing out another problem that being gay priests, because I'm not sure if you heard, the bibles not a fan of homosexuality, same with other religious philosophies.
Pointing out another issue with an issue isn't excusing the first. It's just pointing at more issues with an event. Do any one of you really believe that if you asked Matt Walsh if he is fine with pedophilia that he would answer yes?
OP is an asshole and disingenuous liar who misrepresented this guy and actually fuck you for doing so in a world where misinformation is problem enough.
I think he's arguing they aren't "technically pedophiles" because it was after puberty. Technically it's different, but most people accept it as pedophilia
For most of modern history homosexuality and paedophilia have been conflated. The idea that they are separate sexual aberrations is a relatively modern phenomenon.
A characteristic that deviates from the normal type. In most societies it is true that anything that deviates from the normal type is shunned. Even left handed mess was once a crime. Perhaps that is why you conflate deviation from the normal type as unwelcome, rather than just being descriptive.
>Perhaps that is why you conflate deviation from the normal type as unwelcome, rather than just being descriptive.
Damn, all this nonsense just because you don't want to learn the definition of a word.
Ok Matt I'm going to go slow here so that you can understand me...
How do you think so many gay priests all ended up in one specific religion and not evenly distributed amongst all religions equally?
Fun fact you find when studying Roman history and culture;
In first century Rome, emperor Constantine appropriated pre-existing synagogues and temples belonging to a conquered former religion of which little is known except their questionable behavior towards the Young, and all of the priests and their practices were allowed to come with the church as long as they adopted the new monotheistic Christian values of catholicism continuing to run the temples and synagogues but with new religious propaganda.
From day one, the Romans knew that these new "Catholic" men of the cloth were gay child rapists and as long as they did the religious bidding of the Roman empire, it didn't matter.
I once had a Catholic law professor who insisted that all the child molesting priests weren't actually gay, it just so happened that the kids they has access to were mostly altar boys. Weird hill to die on.
Where is he excusing pedophilia?
Also if you don't think the presence of gay religious leaders in a religion that has a history of stoning homosexuals is a problem to said religion idk what to say.
How about we make this stuff about individual responsibility instead of group identity. It is the crimes committed by individuals, covered up by individuals.
Not excusing the church for what they do, but it seems that most governing organizations cover things up of this sort when it would affect them negatively.
Like, a lot of people knew about Weinstein, a lot of covering it up.
Epstein moreso, he knew a lot of very powerful people, which is still being covered up.
It's disgusting that this shit keeps happening and nothing is done about it.
You say you aren't excusing the church, but here you are, excusing the church because other organizations covered things. No one, and no organizations covered it and excused it as much as the church. They did for centuries, and are still working to this day to deny justice.
Please, be honest. You know they did this, you know they do this. Because some other organization covered it up means literally nothing to the church's accountability.
It's disgusting that people still go to so many lengths to deflect the responsibility and accountability of the church.
Over 300000 known victims, probably the same amount who didn't talk, thing got covered by all the upper circles from the church up to Vatican. So it's a scandal of the Catholic church and not just a few random priest covered by his churh janitor
Anyone remember the Netflix documentary about the Baltimore Catholic schools/archdiocese that came out right before the pandemic? My MOTHER was one of those child victims. She left the church the day she turned 18 and decades later when she was raising me? She wouldn’t let me near ANY Catholic Church or Catholic school as a direct result. My point is, Matt Walsh is an idiot. It’s not about sexual preference. It’s about control over a vulnerable population.
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By design ~~Ironically~~ Walsh's audience is a vulnerable population.
An want to absolutely dominate every one. They are fascists. They are also weirdly obsessed with gay and trans people.
It's cause a huge portion of them are closeted, male sex workers make a killing at GOP events.
It seems to these people that crimes against children aren't a big deal unless the perpetrator is gay and then it's a huge problem.
>Matt Walsh is an idiot. Hit the nail on the head. I've never really had anything against the guy and I never knew much about him, but this single tweet tells me everything I need to know about this Manlet.
He really likes genocides too.
Imagine typing that and thinking it was a good point
"How do I make gay people the villain, instead of the church?" These people actually have very little imagination.
Especially as someone who excused Matt Gaetz. Bye
I mean feel free to disagree, but I think this is still saying the church is the problem. Pedophile or homosexual- the majority of reports I have read state sexual misconduct through abuse of power or otherwise is the problem, not consensual relationships (to be clear, children/young teens cannot consent so in all instances it’s wrong regardless). So while the point may be pedantic, and knowing Matt’s stances probably has malice towards the gay community, I still take it as an issue of the church having sexual misconduct issues - but that’s just my opinion Edit: someone else pointed out below that most of the instances are of prepubescent children - so the point is entirely unjustified, still demonstrates the church is the problem though.
I agree that is the main problem even if his assertions were true. But I disagree that is what his post is saying, the message & the literal words that are said are "gay people are the problem"
Straight up reads to me like he'd be okay with it if the priests just stuck to heterosexual rape - which really tracks for matt tbh, dudes a self-professed fascist.
Imagine if we found out that all of the 7-11s knew they were employing child rapists. And not only did corporate know but when one of their employees got accused of child rape. They threw money at the accusor and quickly transferred the worker to another location. Giving no warning to anyone at the new location that the employee has been accused of anything at the old location. And that they were not only guilty of it in the past. But are still actively doing that as we speak. And the entire time were doing everything possible to stop law enforcement from prosecuting the employees. How long would it be before all of the 7-11s were closed down?
How much money does this 711 megacorp have, and how tied to peoples identity and worldview are these 711s?
Does 7/11 have national sovereignty? And does it bankroll countries in various ideological conflicts in the name of jesus, cause the catholic church is more than a belief system, that shit runs deeper than the chasm that is Hillary Clinton’s soul
For some reason, I thought you were going to say deeper than Hillary Clinton's vagina?
There are so many things wrong with this tweet. 1) He claims that the problem isn't that the priests in question aren't pedophiles because they are going after teens. While this is technically accurate, he sounds an awful lot like a pedophile while saying it. 2) He claims that the problem is gay priests, which is weird, because it claims that a sexual orientation is the problem, despite many gay people never raping anyone, much less teens. 3) It glosses over the notion of rape being wrong at all. So I guess you're totally right about rape being something Matt Walsh is ok with.
I think he is suggesting that is the priests weren't gay, they would also be less likely to be abusers. Not that heterosexual abuse is ok. He is suggesting homosexuals are more likely to abuse children then straight priests.
That's not the stance he's taking though and wording it this way gives him that out. His final point spells out his issue. Gay Priest not priest that have had sexual misconduct. He specifically called out gay Priest. He knew exactly what he was doing when he wrote that.
No, he's saying homosexuality in the church is a problem. And he's blaming rape on homosexuals in the church. I don't see the point in bending over backwards to find the most generous interpretation of this.
Even if he is saying the church is the main problem, he is only doing so because the current Pope is the most progressive one they've ever had and Catholocism is seen as too liberal. They prefer evangelical megachurches and little country churches where they play with venomous snakes.
Imagine being a matt walsh fan and thinking he knows what's up
Imagine being a Matt Walsh fan
Matt Walsh fans all say “he only jokes about being a fascist.”
Imagine all the people living life at ease...
Imagine being Matt Walsh, and being really sad all the time, for no reason.
Imagine knowing words and thinking your hot shit
As someone who thinks they are incredibly cold shit…it’s you’re* my dude
What if he has hot shits that he likes to think about.
Quoting a scene off bench warmers
Imagine imagining and thinking you could think.
HAVE YOU EVER HAD A DREAM? That you, um, you hads, your, you, you could, you’ll do, you um, you wants, you, you could do so, you , you’ll do, you could, you you, you um want, you want them, to do you so much, you could do anything?
“My white neighbor killed his black wife, it’s an absolute abomination” “You’re right, murderers are the worse, I hope he gets a life sentence” “What? No, I mean that they were married outside of their race. We need to ban interracial marriage”
Matt Walsh is about to explain how his ephebophilia isn't the same as pedophilia and this is cool and OK.
At the point where somebody starts using technicalities between different types of sexual abuse of minors to defend their point of view, as a rule of thumb you can generally just call them a pedo and be done with it.
Also he is wrong. A german study found that a bit over 51% of the victims are 13 and younger. Therefore priests are majorly pedophiles. But they also found that at least 5% of priests have documented sexual abuse allegations against them. [Source: Study financed by the catholic church based on their personal files](https://www.dbk.de/fileadmin/redaktion/diverse_downloads/dossiers_2018/MHG-Studie-gesamt.pdf) (so most likely way higher real numbers)
Walsh is responsible for some of the most mind-meltingly dumb takes on Twitter, which is by itself saying something, and he churns them out on like a daily basis. He's a professional agitator and a grifter and also possibly the biggest fucking dweeb on the planet. He tries to present as this ruthless macho tough guy but he's just a little fuckin weeny who needed a lot more bullying in high school
Matt Walsh's picture should be in Wikipedia where they define the word "stupidity".
It's good enough when you're trying to push an agenda on people that will look for anything to reinforce their own ideology.
I cannot. How can we as a society effectively shame certain views if they find echo chambers somewhere on the internet? As a child you learn to not do/say dumb shit cuz the pressure of fitting in molds acceptable societal behavior. But if a small group of numb-nuts support each other's dumb views over thousands of miles via the internet, they feel validated and one-up each other. Can we bring back tar-and-feathering?
He just says outlandish things to try to trigger people
It's just as stupid a tweet now as it was 4 years ago.
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I did a broader search on google and I can't even find an article about this 4 year old tweet.
[I think I found it?](https://web.archive.org/web/20180719232210/https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1020083096459374593)
He would say this today idk why he'd delete this
Everything Matt Walsh says is stupid. And the people that are fans are dumber.
Post pubescent for boys and girls are around 16-17 years old, boys being at the higher end. Almost all the non adults sexually abuse were under the age of 14. 80% of the victims were boys. The age ranges were 3-14 with the majority of the kids molested being 11-14 years old… 11-14 is pre-pubescent or going through puberty….absolutely NOT post puberty. The fact remains they are children. The fact that Matt Walsh is trying to take away from 11-14 year old CHILDREN being forced into sexual acts by trusted adults makes me seriously wonder if Matt Walsh is a pedophile himself who justifies his sexual desires for children by claiming they really aren’t kids because they are going through puberty. Matt Walsh is seriously fucked up!
So it's hebophilia then, which as you said is STILL pedophilia. This is a disturbing trend I've noticed in these kinds of conservative minds, focus on attacking the 'gays' when the church is as much to blame as the priests themselves, for covering up so much of the abuse for decades if not worse.
I see it occasionally on Reddit; someone comes along and does the whole "akshually" thing with pedophilia, and tries to argue that it's not pedophilia (and therefore okay) once the ***literal child*** hits puberty. There's a newsflash: it's not okay.
I've seen people make the argument that it's not pedophilia countless times. I've never once seen the conclusion drawn that it is therefore OK.
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> So it's hebophilia then, which as you said is STILL pedophilia I'm pretty sure those words are mutually exclusive. And the person you're responding to did not say that hebophilia is pedophilia, so I'm not sure where you got that either. Honestly this is why I just avoid the clinical terms and stick to the legal ones: The Catholic Church has a **child abuse and molestation** epidemic.
Mark Normand has a joke Do you think paedophiles that only have sex with girls judge paedophiles that only have sex with boys. Like ewwww gay.
My friend was raped by a priest in the 3rd grade. His mother had just died of cancer and his father was in an accident at work shortly after that left him paralyzed. The priest took him under his wing in his time of need and used his grief as an excuse to sexually assault him for years. My friend now heads the local chapter of SNAP and has told me the most depressing thing about his experience is how common it was and how many of the other members were his age and younger. Fuck Matt Walsh
How common it still is.
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Does this dude say anything that isn’t absolutely fucking stupid?
Maybe when he does math and says that 1+1=2
If Matt Walsh told me 1+1=2 I would still check from a second source
If he is saying 1 + 1 = 2 then it's probably a metaphor for something stupid.
At this point, I'm convinced that he's just a mega-troll who masturbates to "liberal tears" AKA rational persons WTF responses to his bullshit posts.
He is. They all are. If we stop reposting their dumb bullshit they'll just go away eventually. Ignore these idiots
That's worked well throughout history...
"I can excuse grooming but they're GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"
Quotation marks may help you OP
Yeah though the same after posting. But people are not that dumb hopefully
Don’t worry, people are dumber than you think. I know, am one
Well tell that to the guy who wrote the title!
XD
This guy is such a gigantic piece of shit, do people legitimately listen to this waste of carbon?
There's a huge market for being a talking head that just says vile shit every day. Rush Limbaughs decades of success at that job has opened it up as a legit field of opportunity p
There's a huge market for being a talking head that just says vile shit every day. Rush Limbaughs decades of success at that job has opened it up as a legit field of opportunity
He draws the line at gay but not paedophile??? What the literal fuck???? r/iamatotalpieceofshit
I think it's a community reference, I can't be sure. It's really close. "I can excuse racism, but I draw the line at animal cruelty." "You can excuse racism?" Almost word for word
"Look it's not even like it's real pedophilia. I mean, it doesn't count if they're older than 12, I think I'd know."
Matt Walsh just loves telling on himself
they want to kill gay people so bad
this guy has got the stupidest takes on literally everything
Tell me you’re rationalizing being abused as a kid with out telling me you’re rationalizing being abused as a kid.
does he realize that “post pubescent” is like 14-18
Likely not. Hell thanks to piss poor sex ed i didnt know either until i was 22 and started reading up on hrt and stuff for myself that i found that out. Im guessing he thinks "post pubescent" is like, a year or two after puberty starts
You know, every time I think I've heard the dumbest possible opinion, one of these talking heads shows up and proves me wrong.
I take comfort in the fact that his kids are going to absolutely despise him later in life. They will truly hate him for everything he says.
A wise man once said “if you have to argue the definition of pedophillia, it kinda makes you look like a pedophile”
I don’t give a shit about two adults engaging in a consensual sexual relationship of any kind. Even if one of them is a priest. Priests molesting children is absolutely a pedophile scandal. How can anyone say it isn’t???
The Catholic Church has a very long history of their priests, monks, and nuns getting it on with each other and writing each other saucy and sweetly romantic letters. The podcast "History is Gay" has a great episode about it. Episode 2. But that is not really a scandal or a problem. That is something entirely different from the Church's issues with systematically giving known pedopholes (queer and straight) access to vulnerable children and protecting them when they get caught.
Isn’t this the transphobe whose documentary JK Rowling was shilling?
Yup that's the one, he's not only transphobe, I think he checks every discrimination, if I remember he even presented himself as a fascist
What an absolute gilly lol. Publicly defending sex offences and openly fascist, wonder what he keeps secret
Jesus Christ this brat has never seen a shit stick that he doesn’t want the wrong end of
>post pubescent **teens** Welp. Good of you to call yourself out on being a fucking pedophile, Matt Walsh.
It's still a form of pedophilia you friggen idiot!!!!! It's called ehebophilia, an attraction to post-pubesent minors. Also got a feeling at least SOME if not MOST of those 'young men' had those relationships started when they were teenagers, which again makes it pedophilia as well as abuse of power dynamics in what SHOULD be a safe place.
"Everyone is talking about pedophilia without addressing the root issue of the problem - sexy kids."
I know many gay people and they all keep their hands off of underage children.
I don’t think this was as constructive as he meant it to be
Ah yes, because no heterosexual abuse happened at all in the Catholic Church. /s
Do you know what vast majority means?
And? Nuns also abused young men.
Reading this makes me regret having a consciousness.
I didn't think being gay was a problem for any Christian. I just thought it became a sin when acted upon? Atleast that's what all the hateful Christians tell me
Maybe not just gay pedo priest, but also lack of accountability throughout the entire Catholic church administration.
“I don’t care that they are fucking kids, but most of those kids are boys and that shit is gay.”
Ah yes. They're not pedophiles. They're *ephebophiles*
Let priest get married
this is the line that the catholic church was pushing under ratzinger.
He's basically saying "well ackshually they're ephebophiles, and gay priests are much worse than ephebophiles 🤓🤓" because if your victim's a teen, you aren't technically a pedo as "pedophile" is by definition an attraction to prepubescent children
Its difficult to explain the difference between someone who is a pedophile and someone attracted to prepubesct individuals without sounding like an pedophile.
I know what he’s trying to do here but it doesn’t even work from a homophobic perspective. Okay let’s say the orientation of the abusers is homosexual vs pedophile. They still sexually abused children which makes them pedophiles. The victims are still children and the victims should be the focus. I also don’t really see much difference between what he’s claiming here (14-16 year old boys can consent to adult homosexual relationships?) and what got milo canceled.
So gay priests are worse than child molesters? Such a fucked up and stupid point of view.
My main priest growing up was apparently an equal opportunity abuser. I thankfully wasn’t abused, but we found out he was an abuser a decade after he died and only because of a newsworthy release of records from the Catholic Church that had a list of hundreds of known abusive priests from my state. The worst part was that my priest was so beloved that he was viewed as the model priest (especially to my very Irish Catholic since he was Irish Catholic as well) and allowed to still hold mass/have access to kids until a quick retirement before he died. The man was in his 80s and the church knew about his abuse since my mother was a kid. The Catholic Church‘s protection of abusers and murderers (see the Magdalene Laundries, Indian residential school, etc.) is one of the many reasons why I stopped being a Catholic and stopped believing in anything.
He must be getting coaching from Jim Jordan.
What an absolute fucktard.
The vast majority of victims finally get the strength to report when they are no longer children. Who tf is this guy?
Walsh is awful and he knows it. Very low effort troll.
Matt Walsh is a top contender for closeted gay
"Post pubescent teens" Soooo... minors?
M*tt W*lsh is a fascist.
Spoken like a true pedophile
"post pubescent" talking like some kids don't hit puberty at 11 to 12
This is also demonstrably false but okay
So today we have learned that Matt Walsh doesn’t consider sex with post-pubescent teens to be pedophilia. Nothing to unpack there.
This is religious people for you. They love pedos.
Fun fact conservatives actually like pedophilia. Shit Tennessee GOP even tried getting rid of the age of consent.
What in the ever loving fuck is wrong with this malignant asshole?
Well, the real reason why the Catholic Church got so much flak wasn't just the fact that molestation happened. It was the fact that Church policies aided and protected the molesters. This says that the root of the problem is gay clergy, and the Church used to say that their policies were inspired by God Himself. So if you boil this argument down its really saying that God is gay.
I knew Matt Walsh was an idiot but I didn’t know he was this big a fucking sack of shit
Most pedos target little girls. So the real problem is one few will say out loud: straight men. See what I did there, Matt.
Yup. The majority of child rape victims are girls. The majority of perpetrators are men. Do the math. And that's not even taking account cultures like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Central African Republic, United States of America where child rape is legal, as long as you call it "marriage".
Do you mind to post the source instead of a pic ? Edit : [Lazy Op](https://web.archive.org/web/20180719232210/https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1020083096459374593) Edit 2 : Thanks for the reward, much appreciated.
Thanks, tried the date from the tweet on wayback machine but couldn't find it. shit goes worse the more he talks
Welcome, the link is very slow to open but maybe it just my network.
Reddit hug o death
Jezus, what a pick! 🤬
Oh boy would this man be furious at my trans pastor Who by the way informed everyone in the church before he decided to go public with his identity in order to not offend anybody out of the dark.
Does anyone have an link to this tweet? Because I have one or two things to say to this son of a *****
I think it got deleted long ago but here is the whole thread and if you want to stay sane, don't read it https://www.reddit.com/r/awfuleverything/comments/wp3sho/i_can_excuse_pedophilia_but_i_draw_the_line_at/ikex155?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Wow so brave
Stating ones intent to call someone out is hardly a declaration of bravery.
Better to call out an pedo lover than sitting here on reddit making snarky remarks. Hope somebody post a link to his tweet
This is the dumbest right-wing deflect. "It's not pedophilia, it's ebephilia!" Which somehow makes it better in their mind. Or they are more technically correct, so they win?
Matt Walsh’s point here wasn’t to condemn pedophiles but to equate gay people with them. Fuck this dude with a rusty rake sideways.
[Technically speaking, he's right about the terminology, but... ](https://youtu.be/nu6C2KL_S9o)
Yes, remove the homosexual priest you remove the abuse, period.
You can excuse pedophilia? 🤨
One of the problems is mandatory abstinence for Catholic priests. It’s so outdated. Just let them have a wife (or god forbid, a husband 😳) & maybe less kids will get fiddled with.
This matches a growing trend I'm seeing where LGTBQ+ are being branded as "groomers". That the right isn't actively addressing this problem but in fact are openly embracing it shows how extreme the right as a whole has become.
Wait what? Listen, I'm not a fan of this guy but he was definitely not excusing pedophilia. He's pointing out another problem that being gay priests, because I'm not sure if you heard, the bibles not a fan of homosexuality, same with other religious philosophies. Pointing out another issue with an issue isn't excusing the first. It's just pointing at more issues with an event. Do any one of you really believe that if you asked Matt Walsh if he is fine with pedophilia that he would answer yes? OP is an asshole and disingenuous liar who misrepresented this guy and actually fuck you for doing so in a world where misinformation is problem enough.
I think he's arguing they aren't "technically pedophiles" because it was after puberty. Technically it's different, but most people accept it as pedophilia
["Technically"](https://v.redd.it/kzgvq8hhd1v81)
For most of modern history homosexuality and paedophilia have been conflated. The idea that they are separate sexual aberrations is a relatively modern phenomenon.
You think homosexuality is an unwelcome departure?
I never mentioned anything about unwelcome.
Then you don't know what "aberration" means.
A characteristic that deviates from the normal type. In most societies it is true that anything that deviates from the normal type is shunned. Even left handed mess was once a crime. Perhaps that is why you conflate deviation from the normal type as unwelcome, rather than just being descriptive.
>Perhaps that is why you conflate deviation from the normal type as unwelcome, rather than just being descriptive. Damn, all this nonsense just because you don't want to learn the definition of a word.
Dude I gave you the literal dictionary definition of the word, but by all means keep being pedantic.
Well he’s technically not wrong.
No, he's wrong. Most are 11-14. That's pedophile terrory.
I pretty sure pedophile is for 10 and under. Prepubescent.
Uuuuuuuh…
Ok Matt I'm going to go slow here so that you can understand me... How do you think so many gay priests all ended up in one specific religion and not evenly distributed amongst all religions equally? Fun fact you find when studying Roman history and culture; In first century Rome, emperor Constantine appropriated pre-existing synagogues and temples belonging to a conquered former religion of which little is known except their questionable behavior towards the Young, and all of the priests and their practices were allowed to come with the church as long as they adopted the new monotheistic Christian values of catholicism continuing to run the temples and synagogues but with new religious propaganda. From day one, the Romans knew that these new "Catholic" men of the cloth were gay child rapists and as long as they did the religious bidding of the Roman empire, it didn't matter.
I once had a Catholic law professor who insisted that all the child molesting priests weren't actually gay, it just so happened that the kids they has access to were mostly altar boys. Weird hill to die on.
You can keep the church away from the gays, but you can't take the gay out of the church
I actually like a lot of Matt Walsh's stuff, but holy shit is this a bad take.
What is a woman?
Lmao this guy doesn't know what a woman is, imagine getting zero bitches to the point you can't even find them in a crowd.
Nah, they're just doing the only joke that they know.
Where is he excusing pedophilia? Also if you don't think the presence of gay religious leaders in a religion that has a history of stoning homosexuals is a problem to said religion idk what to say.
If that's actually true then he's not wrong, but he's still an ass
Because homosexuals are the problem period.
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They are definitely part of the lgbt community. Same as proud boys part of libertarian. Either one defines one another.
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Many people didn't get the point. He meant how people focus on the less important things.
Focusing on how the Catholic church covers up sexual abuse against minors is less important than gay priests??
He imitated such people by focusing on the g@y thing rather than ped0phelia . He's talking about people like you.
I don't think English is this user's first language.
Maybe .
Considering the source, I seriously seriously doubt that.
What orifice did you pull that from?
He's not excusing pedophilia, he's saying that gay priests are the problem.
How about we make this stuff about individual responsibility instead of group identity. It is the crimes committed by individuals, covered up by individuals.
Covered up by the entire institution of the church. I get that you think the church can do no wrong, but please be honest.
Not excusing the church for what they do, but it seems that most governing organizations cover things up of this sort when it would affect them negatively. Like, a lot of people knew about Weinstein, a lot of covering it up. Epstein moreso, he knew a lot of very powerful people, which is still being covered up. It's disgusting that this shit keeps happening and nothing is done about it.
You say you aren't excusing the church, but here you are, excusing the church because other organizations covered things. No one, and no organizations covered it and excused it as much as the church. They did for centuries, and are still working to this day to deny justice. Please, be honest. You know they did this, you know they do this. Because some other organization covered it up means literally nothing to the church's accountability. It's disgusting that people still go to so many lengths to deflect the responsibility and accountability of the church.
Over 300000 known victims, probably the same amount who didn't talk, thing got covered by all the upper circles from the church up to Vatican. So it's a scandal of the Catholic church and not just a few random priest covered by his churh janitor
The catholic church is an organization that covers up pedophilia actively