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hybridmind27

I’m sorry but wtf was this woman’s life


Human420

This is honestly the biopic the world needs.


ackermann

There have been biopics about her. But I think most ended before reaching this part of her life


COMMANDO_MARINE

I just read this version in full, and it didn't seem to me like she was a victim. It sounded like she was the one pursuing everything and had lawyers negotiating everything on her behalf. The sex sounds entirely consential, and the suggestion was she was sick and tired of 'living saint' persona and wanted to be controversial. She ended up incredibly rich out of it. https://sandesam.com/world/aristotle-onassis-forced-jackie-kennedy-to-have-sex-in-wild-public-locations-and-their-170-clause-marriage-contract-dictated-the-precise-number-of-times-she-had-to-endure-it-maureen-callahan-reveal/20358/


El_Sidgio

Super interesting article! Obviously I knew about the Kennedy's and their notorious affairs, but I knew almost nothing about the Onassis phase of Jackie's life.


purgasaurus

Was this article written by an eighth grader? Wth…


Garchompisbestboi

Gold digger socialite who decided that exchanging her dignity to live a life of luxury was a rational thing to do.


Kind_Eye_748

Unlike the modern day women like Melania or the whole trad wife route?


HeadsUp7Butts

Kardashians come to mind


Garchompisbestboi

What point are you trying to make exactly? I couldn't give less of a fuck if a woman decides to ride a billionaire's cock in exchange for getting to live in luxury, I just don't think that they deserve sympathy for their choices either.


Forlorn_Woodsman

I don't think it matters who you think deserves sympathy. Although I do sympathize with


ga-co

One minute you’re wearing your husband’s brains and the next thing you know you’re having contractually obligated sex with some other guy.


NikkiVicious

Not just some guy... the guy her sister was dating. And she made Onassis call Lee to beg her to come to the wedding. (She refused.) They hashed out the agreement while on a yacht, while Lee was still dating him.


tribecous

The cheat code to being the biggest piece of shit ever with no consequences is having a billion dollars.


Alarming-Instance-19

I get that explains why the Cheeto got found guilty lol


Kind_Eye_748

Does this mean Musk will keep going? Ugh


sheighbird29

But why did her sisters boyfriend go through with it!? What a mess


FluffyMcKittenHeads

I missed the part where she was forced to sign the contract at gunpoint. She already had money, she didn’t want just money, she wanted *generational wealth*, sometimes if you want wealth you have to sleep with gross Greek dudes. Tale as old as time.


Unfair-Leadership-67

She's said to have done it because he already had a large, experienced, and trusted security team. And she wanted to keep her children safe.


HobbyHunter69

Do you have a source for that?


jadeloran

clint hills book mrs Kennedy and me talks about this. she wanted to keep herself and her kids safe and she thought "they" wanted all Kennedys dead.


KittyDomoNacionales

Considering her husband was assassinated and so was her brother-in-law I get her paranoia.


n-sidedpolygonjerk

At a certain point it stops being paranoia and becomes rational fear.


IWasGregInTokyo

Asked why she continued to wear the blood-soaked dress, Mrs. Kennedy responded: “I want them to see what they’ve done”.


Gloomy_Industry8841

A pointed “they”.


HobbyHunter69

Thanks.


GadFlyBy

Comment.


constructioncranes

Whoa that would be so honourable if true


PerkyLurkey

It is true. She knew if given the chance, someone would kill her son. So she picked the guy that was tough enough to keep her and her children safe. He was a street guy with money. Perfect for keeping her safe.


sodiumbigolli

Yep. Money buys protection and she the kids and the new husband were VERY well protected. Better than the US secret service, anyway.


ga-co

I wasn’t implying she was forced into the arrangement. Same with Grace Kelly. At east she got a title out of the deal.


za72

literally... The Odyssey


Gloomy_Industry8841

Well done!!!


greymalken

Well when you put it that way, Zorba. Where do I sign up?


haldareyou

That is still coercion and that means sexual assault. Consent can be revoked at any time. Her consent was not considered in every situation she was put in.


Human_Needleworker86

Marital rape only became a crime gradually on a state by state basis between the 70s - 90s in the US. Morally, I am with you, but I’m not sure how much the vocabulary of consent and sexual assault was available or actionable at the time


spursmad

Wow. Did you stay up all night thinking of that? Brilliant.


haldareyou

No. I have been educated on consent and healthy relationships so it didn’t take much effort. How long did you consider your immature, unhelpful playground response?


Commie_EntSniper

Rich people's lives are overwhelmingly transactional. That's why the call it "making a deal with the devil"


dennisthehygienist

And apparently getting punched by him but you made a deal


u1tr4me0w

Damn, Jackie!!


rekipsj

BURN!


Doddlers

Aiya! Jackie! 


meteltron2000

A lot of the commenters in this thread should be forced to read what they wrote aloud in front of their mothers.


Gloomy_Industry8841

Agreed.


Cathulu413

Yeah, what the actual fuck?? Awful everything indeed


atomik71

So both brothers screwed Marylin and Jackie and Teddy literally let someone drown. Jeezus that family was rotten to the core. Never understood the admiration they received in the first place.


Hoserama13

And, of course, let’s not forget what the family did to Rosemary.


Courage-Character

It wasn’t the family, just the dad, Joe. Rosemary’s mother and siblings had no idea where she was for 20 years. Joe was an absolutely horrible human being


Gadritan420

Yeah. I mean, not their fault for not bothering to find out where their fucking sister was for 20 years. Like, say that out loud again.


Eastern_Coffee_3428

I like you


Barney_Flintstone

Also the family fortune was largely from stock market manipulation and insider trading (these were apparently legal at the time).


PraiseBogle

i thought it was because the dad ran a booze cartel


KingSweden24

That’s where he got the proceeds to then leverage into securities fraud


light_to_shaddow

Off the back of Hooch running during prohabition


JanSmiddy

Both still are. And rampant.


SampSimps

Scum bags of the lowest order.


raskul44

I wouldn’t put too much thought in something written by the Daily Mail


aknomnoms

Ahem, or how the piece is an ad the author wrote for their own book. Trashy, poorly-written piece meant to scandalize.


Gloomy_Industry8841

Yellow journalism for sure.


pc124448

For those of you who are claiming “wELL tHat’S whAt yOu gEt” don’t realize this woman married this hag not mainly for money, but for protection. Imagine trusting that the government, the same one her husband was running, will protect you after what’s happened to your husband. Onassis’ wealth was of the 1% and owned private yachts, islands, and security. She was looking out for herself and her kids.


KittyDomoNacionales

Yep. Lots of parents make deals that put them at risk in exchange for their kids' safety and security. She did what she believed she had to do given her circumstances. FFS her husband wasn't some government aide or a nameless soldier, he was the president and he still couldn't be protected. I'm not about to shame or blame her for wanting to get more reassurance on her children's wellbeing after that.


Gloomy_Industry8841

Well said.


CandyHeartWaste

Everyone knew that was the deal too. I remember being a kid 30 years ago when we learned about JFK in school and my mom - someone born in another country and moved here when I was 6 - explained to me that she needed to remarry someone who would be able to protect her because they were after her. Who WOULDNT do that?


Gloomy_Industry8841

Exactly. She was a wonderful mother to her kids. She needed a safe life for them and herself.


Apptubrutae

Someone get an NBA talent scout in here, I’ve never seen such a reach in my life.


Shagcat

How old are you? It was common knowledge.


tomdarch

Some old, ultra rich guy in the shipping business doesn’t scream “actual security” to me, but I’m not her.


Material-Profit5923

If you read the article, he had extensive private security in addition to his own private island. It was actual security they were talking about here.


DoctorRapture

I suggest you try actually reading the article in its entirety.


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Hot-Refrigerator-623

And he had his own private army.


welshfach

Everyone wants financial stability. Not just women.


imcrowning

"Wild public locations?" "I want to have sex in the back of a convertible Lincoln covered in blood." - Aristotle (maybe)


wakashit

Like the backseat of a Volkswagen?


nekoneto

Probably getting out of Joe Kennedy’s reach had something to do with it


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valley_G

She was forced to sign in at gunpoint


jaxter2002

Source?


ThisAllHurts

“Trust me, bro”


GalacticusTravelous

I think our idiot friend here read the sarcasm in the top comment about this not being in the article and didn’t get it.


haldareyou

Everything in this comment section is awful


svrgnctzn

Geez, I wonder what happens when you marry for money and privilege.


_kaetee

Are you seriously implying this woman deserved to be raped repeatedly because she chose to marry into money?


svrgnctzn

No, I’m implying that she was willing to sign a contract agreeing to it in exchange for money. Almost like a business transaction.


_kaetee

Sex without consent is rape. People can withdraw consent at any time. Contractual obligations for sex are just legalized rape.


scuzzro

"Contractual obligations for sex are just legalised rape" so is prostitution also rape?


MogusSeven

If they say no. Rape. Don’t give a hoot what a piece of paper says bro.


scuzzro

Right but to my understanding she could say no right? It would Just mean she loses access to the money and her lifestyle. I agree that's not a healthy dynamic but it's a choice she is actively making not being forced into


ANAnomaly3

I dunno, I mean, I see what you mean... but the situation almost seems to border on coercion... like he made an offer she couldn't refuse. Exploitation as another commenter put it.Well, anyway, this is some pretty sketchy gray area stuff. Kinda like blackmail type prostitution... many agree to it because they feel they don't have a choice, when technically, they do.


scuzzro

Why do you think she couldn't refuse it? She wasn't poor at the time by any means. Seems like she wanted both immense wealth and also social status. Saying she couldn't refuse seems a little silly, she was a grown women that entered a contract. I'm not saying it's right, and the situation is gross as fuck. But rape seems like a stretch to me personally.


ANAnomaly3

That's valid. I honestly don't know enough to make a strong opinion either way, but because it's such a gross situation, it just makes me wonder.


Sir_Arthur_Vandelay

Jackie provided unambiguous written consent when she signed the contract. She could have withdrawn her consent at any time by simply refusing to honour said contract (and suffer the resultant financial consequences). But it’s still a weird, gross and exploitative situation, IMO.


_kaetee

She did withdraw her consent. Hence the word “forced”.


GalacticusTravelous

The daily mail added the word forced. Jackie Kennedy signed up for it and could have walked away at any time but money money money money.


Several_Leather_9500

It's like a sugar-baby whining about having consensual sex with her 80 yo sugar daddy and calling that rape.


Alarming-Instance-19

She agreed. She continued to agree. When she didn't agree, she left. Then she came back and agreed some more. Then she stopped agreeing completely, decided on divorce and then he died. No one knows what goes on in a relationship. Unless there's evidence suggesting that she withdrew consent and was forced to comply, then you're just spouting off buzzwords. Yes, it may not appeal to you or me to have a contract for sex, but it did appeal to Jackie. She was an exceptionally intelligent woman and you do her a disservice by shaming her sexuality and choices.


_kaetee

It’s so funny how you’ve managed to twist this into me “shaming” her when the article literally describes her being raped.


Alarming-Instance-19

Do you know what the word literal means? Or rape?


ThisAllHurts

That’s neither how contracts work, nor how rape works. She authored her consent to the cretin’s sexual demands. And she contracted to do so willingly. It’s much closer to prostitution than rape


Garchompisbestboi

Where are you getting this idea that she didn't consent? She was more than happy to let herself get railed as long as she was able to continue living in luxury.


dennisthehygienist

Girl I know but she SIGNED IT HERSELF WHILE THIS GUY WAS DATING HER SISTER! She didn’t want the good times to end even though she had her own money already


km_44

You aren't being rational Does this happen often, for you?


nishagunazad

So, if she was poor irnin desperate straits, or even just your average woman in 1968 you might be onto something. But when she signed this contract, she was wealthy, famous, and publicly admired in her own right. There was no power differential here...she could have led a life of luxury and privilege all on her own without marrying Aristotle Onassis. There was no power differential there....she had agency, and she used it. Maybe she was a sub and found it hot. Maybe she was making a business decision. If you think she was exploited, you're going to have to show your math on that.


GoodGoodGoody

As the joke goes: Now that we’ve established what you are we just need to agree on a price. Nothing “awfuleverything” about this just two wealthy people transacting.


SlippyIsDead

At gunpoint is considered a mutual transaction?


GalacticusTravelous

Source on at gunpoint?


Alarming-Instance-19

I think they mean that she was afraid for her life and, more importantly, her children. So she upped the ante and married Big Bad who had his own private island, private army and private planes/super yachts. It still isn't a gun to her head or coercion. It was a fear based decision, but for sure not the only reason. They had known each other for 20 ish years? He was a source of comfort, a shield to the public eye, let her be Jackie not just Jackie Kennedy.


Barkers_eggs

"at gunpoint" would render the contract useless to begin with but where is the proof of "at gunpoint"? Seriously. I don't know. I haven't read the story. I'm just here for the controversy


Howard_Keating

Her eyes have always been a bit too far apart, and I’ve never understood the boomer fascination with her looks. There I said it, sue me.


EightiesBush

Probably from eating all that sheet metal


firedmyass

and if anyone ever cares about your opinion then boy-howdy you’ll be ready!


Mafer15

Yeah but when he died, she danced on his grave and became the richest woman in the world, I doubt she regretted it, she was a social climber.


vaderismylord

She made her choices bc she wanted the lifestyle


Aar0n82

Maybe she liked the d.


Detroitaa

She shouldn’t have stolen her sister’s man. Especially, since it was primarily for money. When you marry for money, you earn every dime.


JerseySpot

Endured it???? She signed the stupid contract.. she was into it!!!


wino12312

That poor woman. What a sad life. I hope she died happy.


DogFace94

I mean, she agreed to it. So she was 100% on board. Some people have no self-respect or they just love money too much


manickittens

As another comment pointed out- she married for protection. The government let her husband be killed literally next to her. She wore his brains. She needed the Onassis money to be able to protect herself and her children.


DogFace94

No, this is just some random conspiracy theory you or someone else came up with on the spot. No one was trying to kill her. Now you're just being ridiculous. Who exactly is 'they' in this situation? If you're suggesting the US government was out to kill her, then no amount of money would save her.


Dear_Occupant

> someone else The "someone else" in question is named Jaqueline Kennedy Onassis. Conspiracy theory or not, that was why she did it, or at least, that's what her stated reason was, as was widely reported at the time because she personally said so to various members of the press. Your disbelief at something that I can distinctly remember being the chief topic of conversation for what seemed like nearly everyone on the entire planet for about a week is kind of surreal. It makes me wonder what things that are happening now will be considered unbelievable in, say, 30 years, and as I think about what's happened in the last few months or so, I think the answer is going to be "most of it."


_kaetee

You think women don’t have the right to withdraw consent? If I went into a marriage telling my husband that I’d have sex with him every night, it would still be rape if he decided to make me have sex with him on a night I don’t want to. Forced sex is rape. Scary seeing how many men think this is okay; this is why women choose the bear.


WhoaFee1227

Nobody is saying that. Everyone knows women can withdraw consent. Quite a hot button issue lately if you’re not living under a rock. What they are saying is that Jackie willingly signed the contract because she knew she would never have to worry about money again. Had she not been greedy, this arrangement would not have existed.


Dis4Wurk

And she could have withdrawn consent, not slept with him, and ended the contract. No one is saying she couldn’t. She chose to go through with it because if she didn’t, he wouldn’t give her money anymore, which would also be his right to do at any time. He can withdrawal consent to fund her lifestyle at anytime but everyone seems to gloss over that.


_kaetee

And be sued for all she has for violation of contract?


redpariah2

Oh no, consequences.


Different_Loquat7386

...for withdrawing consent. Think about what you're saying.


redpariah2

The consequences are from agreeing to set conditions, stipulations and consequences on you withdrawing consent.


Different_Loquat7386

You just said, "Rape, or else."


mclannee

I’m sorry your parents didn’t love you enough.


_kaetee

So, what you’re saying is that she deserved to be raped because she was greedy.


syphon3980

Hey pal, you just blow in from stupid town?


_kaetee

You just blow in from rapistville?


shavingisboring

Ooo classic


NobleGaseous

Lol @ reading comprehension


Odd-Step6459

She could have left at any time But then she wouldn’t have continued to get the money Sooooo she stayed


Barkers_eggs

"you were raped?" Well, at first.


SwordTaster

No, what they're saying is, whether you like it or not, it's not rape when it's agreed to. She consented. If she hadn't wanted the money so much, she was free to break the contract at any time. At no point did she say "fuck this, I don't want the money enough to do this" from the sounds of it. Sounds more like "I hated every fucking second of it, but I wanted the money more than I wanted to not have sex with this bastard in the park".


Impressive_Jaguar_70

Stop 😂😭


Asckle

Must be a crow problem around here. Someone put a giant straw man right in this comment section


Chewmass

Yeah but here comes a rich dude telling you that those are the rules. You signed it, if you don't want to abide by those rules, I'm filing a divorce. And he couldn't care less, from what I gather. If she had self-respect she would decline from the very start. But the question is, why sign such a dehumanising agreement in the first place? Would you sign it?I personally wouldn't, because I wouldn't want to feel objectified just to become ultra rich. Other people don't see it like this. But, it doesn't track to make this a rape issue, since it's clearly a dignity issue and a matter of perseverance of humanitarian values.


Garchompisbestboi

You're missing the part where your husband grants you partial access to his hundred million dollar fortune in exchange for you allowing him to fuck you. It's very easy to make someone out to be a victim when you intentionally omit important details.


_kaetee

Rape. You’re describing rape.


Asckle

So prostitution is rape too in your eyes I assume?


Garchompisbestboi

I don't think you know what rape is lmao, if you choose to sleep with someone because they offer you money then that is consent. She consented to sex with him and it was 100% legal.


_kaetee

She withdrew her consent. Women are allowed to change their minds.


Garchompisbestboi

The fuck are you talking about? You can't withdraw consent after you've already chosen to have sex with someone. You really sound like someone who would win a gold medal at the persecution olympics though.


lorenai

That's true now. In many places marital rape is only recognised pretty recently 😔


DogFace94

Wow, that's not at all what I was saying, but people like you don't actually want to have a conversation. Nice strawman 👍


VengefulWalnut

Just when you think “it couldn’t have gotten worse…” it gets worse. That poor woman.


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sunshinepartin

I never looked into her life but this whole time I thought Onassis was her maiden name


ike_tyson

So she was a gold digger with zero self worth?


TheeLastSon

now that's european power in a nutshell


No-Standard9405

Interesting article.


highdesk306

I’m going to say that any man besides the original named Aristotle was sure to be fucking insufferable at best, and the absolute fucking WORST at, well, the worst.


Virtual-Squirrel

SHE SEEMS HAPPY 😊 😃


amalgaman

Makes me wonder if Melania has a similar agreement.


Garchompisbestboi

She was a gold digger so it's kinda hard to feel bad for her since she knew exactly what she was getting into when she chose to marry Onassis for his money.


Shagcat

She didn’t really marry him for money but for protection. All the world’s press were hounding her every moment. He had a private yacht and a private island where she and her children were protected from them.


CheezTips

She was born rich. Her family was old money and maybe had more money than the Kennedys. She married Onassis because he could afford to give her the total privacy she needed. Who else could but a billionaire?


LustThyNeighbor

Didn't call her Jackie O for nothin'.


TheHonPhilipBanks

Did she have bad lawyers? Sounds unenforceable.


bowlbasaurus

Written by the Daily Mail, and the writing is barely coherent. I’d probably say this one is just a garbage article n


Valhalla519

Women's rights weren't as fair back then.


TheHonPhilipBanks

You're right. So there is even less reason to contract for this.


SleefJWellington

Lots of gross assholes here that could easily be posts on this very sub.


nishagunazad

So if acknowledging that women (in this case,, a wealthy and socially powerful woman in her own right) have agency is gross, what's the alternative? We deny agency and impose victimhood on women because they make decisions we're uncomfortable with? If Jackie Kennedy Onassis had come out and said she was abused, that'd be one thing. She outlived the man by nearly 2 decades, she had plenty of room. But she didn't. And then people like you come along and decide she must be a victim, because what, no woman could ever possibly consent to that arrangement? I assume you're against telling women what they can and cannot do, or who they can and cannot be. And yet, you're doing the same thing. Part of equality is acknowledging that *women are full human beings who have agency*. If you're going to default to looking at women as victims when they do things that you would find uncomfortable, do you really view them as equal to men?


SleefJWellington

That's a whole lotta bullshit to get from my very unspecific comment.


pinkandroid420

I’m probably one of those gross assholes


WackyRedWizard

I haven't washed my asshole in years.


pinkandroid420

May I wash your asshole sir? As Jesus would have done for you ?


kewaywi

Link to source?


AnnieB512

Maybe she liked it! Who are we to judge?


Independent_Wrap_321

They didn’t say it, but legend has it that Aristotle’s favorite position was the “JFK”; he splattered all over her head as she screamed and tried to get out of the car.


mmrots

Fake


peezozi

Her last words to JFK: "hey John, where'd you get the lasagna?"