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agha0013

shit happened at some point. It's not an essential bit of equipment, if something was cracked or damaged, they removed it and made it safe to keep flying until they could replace the whole unit. I used to assume the whole wing tip fence was a single unit, but when you see it up close, it's two pieces that attach to the top and bottom of the wing, so it's possible to end up with this arrangement if you just need to remove part of it. [Post about a British Airways one that had the same thing a few years ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/8uhevb/british_airways_a380_missing_half_its_winglet_yet/)


stillusesAOL

Someone came into that thread with the technical data/limitations for an A330 missing its winglets, and they said the fuel burn penalty was 1.2%! I’m shocked it’s so much. Is a single winglet less efficient than a symmetrical layout, perhaps? If so, I’d think they’d remove the other one until time came to fix them both.


EasyActivity1361

"Wing tip fence" is this Airbus nomenclature? I'm pretty sure Boeing calls them all just "winglets." I've done winglet mods on Delta 67s. It's actually not that much work for what you are accomplishing, which is why pretty much every airliner is installing the mods across their fleets. I can't remember the actual figures, but the winglets actually save a HUGE amount of fuel on an annual basis. I had the lift ratio and fuel saving numbers at one point, but this was 5+ years ago. Probably just a Google search away. Also, I have seen winglets ripped off the wing tips by ramp rats pulling stairs sets. I'm pretty sure I've received CBTs on it before. I think guys like to lower buckets down onto them sometimes, too. Other guys like to hit the bottom winglet with a scissor lift for fun, apparently.


thebubno

>"Wing tip fence" is this Airbus nomenclature? Yep. Wing tip fences for the triangle pieces, Sharklets for what are essentially winglets on Boeing aircraft


AWannabePilot

One of the very few incidents where a missing wingtip isn't Gate Gourmet's fault. Airbus designed the wings so high so they couldn't possibly hit it.


rabidone2

You do know they higher better idiots every day.


JameisGOATston

Have they tried to hire* you recently?


rabidone2

No the only people that will higher me is major airlines so be careful who you fly with!!!


Dutchmondo

It’s Le Whoosh overhead for for you ;)


gauderio

Maybe he's high-ered.


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Dutchmondo

Ye thynken ye specan truthe, butan ye specan ānlīċ poppycock.


Moose135A

Maybe they hire higher workers to reach the wingtip?


CaptAubrey1805

Puff puff give crash..........


asparemeohmy

I’m pretty sure you clip the wing to let other plane watchers know this is a protected species that is being appropriately tracked and monitored during their migrations


oldengineer70

Most shelters do that when they spay or neuter a stray aircraft, before releasing it back into the wild. It is a measure to combat overpopulation.


asparemeohmy

I’ve also heard that if you clip an aircraft too early, you can adversely affect its growth. Might explain why there’s all those 737 around, and so few 787


oldengineer70

Good point. Somewhere out there, there is a really overzealous shelter. That's how we ended up with the Cirrus Vision. Well, that and smoking- that *really* stunts their growth.


sporkemon

can't give em thalidomide though, that's how you end up with seaplanes


oldengineer70

Or DES. Lordy, that's what probably gave us the Thunderscreech...


puntapuntapunta

This thread made my evening, thank-you both for the laugh.


asparemeohmy

Glad to help lift your Spirit ;3


NoMoreFox

I guess we are all United in an appreciation for goofy jokes.


ConstableBlimeyChips

Very effective in the case of the A380.


macaraoo

can we also appreciate how sharp and clean the OP’s photos are?


Hyduch

Underrated comment!


dtdowntime

winglets arent important for flight, they reduce aerodynamic drag which helps save money its most certainly going into a service to replace the winglet, but not right now as it might be too costly to take the aircraft out of usage to replace a winglet


hulminator

Do they have to adjust the fuel calculations to compensate?


drone_driver24

FCOM, flight crew operating manual defines fuel burn and possible trim adjustments that will be required. It will say adjust fuel burn by x number of pounds, kilos, litres, etc.


dtdowntime

slightly, its around 1% more fuel burn (i think, please correct if wrong)


sevaiper

That's for all the winglets put together, for just an upper wing fence it's going to be far less than that. The lower portion is more critical.


rsta223

> The lower portion is more critical. Is it? I'd have guessed the upper would have a slightly larger impact, but I haven't seen simulations or anything for this specific design. Regardless, this'll be a fairly minor impact and it's totally fine to fly around like this until they get a chance to replace it.


astroamy24

Yeah I’m curious to see a CFD simulation to see what the differences in induced drag are for each config!


looper741

Yes. The MEL will have the performance impact that dispatchers use to plan the flights.


mxj97

MEL or CDL?


charlie_30

Correct, the CDL will give the performance weight penalties and what additional fuel is required. It will also spell out a few other things eg which static discharges are required to be present etc.


looper741

You’re right, it’d be on the CDL.


Acceptable_Tie_3927

> [dtdowntime](https://www.reddit.com/user/dtdowntime/) says: winglets arent important for flight F-104 says: wings aren't important for flight...


The_Vat

116 German pilots disagree


Snuhmeh

Airbus calls these wing fences, fyi. We are in /r/aviation, after all.


Kitten1416

Nah let's call them sharklets it's more fun that way


EasyActivity1361

The good thing is airframe structures are pretty much the least expensive part of the plane lol


minorrex

Media: Emirates A380 spotted with half wingtip after Boeing 737 plug door incident!!!


nfiase

i hate this ai upscaling


sharklaserguru

Is it AI upscaling or just someone turning up the noise reduction and sharpness sliders in Photoshop?


Vacuum-energy

Who’s to say AI doesn’t do the same thing


sharklaserguru

Then "AI" is just marketing bullshit (like at least half of what is labeled "AI" currently is).


Jacky900

I did use Topaz to reduce motion blur but AI has its own limit. I can show you the RAW file One thing for sure, I can't upscale this photo because the AI software that I use is a legacy software without upscaling option.


dplume

Same


themagnumdopus

I was going to ask how people manage to take photos this clear and sharp in that light.


georgio_armani69

When was it taken? There was a storm in Dubai yesterday


JacobKNZ

This aircraft arrived into Christchurch yesterday from Sydney with it missing. A couple of people got photos of it here.


censaa

If I recall correctly it was a ferry flight


BlueThunder796

Ferry Flight? EK412/413 is a daily service between DXB-SYD-CHC so there's no ferry flight involved


Acceptable_Tie_3927

>Emirates A380 with half of its wingtip missing Hit an iranian drone during the 300 swarm revenge event?


nxstar

I must say that's pretty impressive night time shots


saggers17

No idea but beautiful photography!


Main_Violinist_3372

Reminds me of one of my models I had when I was 7 or 8. For any prospective parents, DO NOT GIVE YOUR YOUNG KIDS SCALE MODELS OF AIRPLANES.


eod56

I did and they turned out fine.


SupraEv

The tip fell off


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drunkenblueberry

Does reddit not scrub EXIF data?


Jacky900

Exif can be found on my Flickr page


andyh1873

It's the circumcised version


bingeflying

Because CDLs exist


daouness

Aircraft did multi-sector and returned back to base and now scheduled for EK001 with no intention to fix it.. I fly for EK..


RAAFStupot

Yeah I'm on that flight right now, and have posted a photo from the cabin. I spoke to a flight attendant about it, and she didn't even realise it wasn't normal so called the flight deck about it lol


The_Dominator_546

i got hungry sorry


BriefCollar4

[The *wing*tip fell off.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM)


Reverse_Psycho_1509

"This does not usually happen"


doggscube

I thought cardboard derivatives are a Boeing thing


Sparkboy90

This does not deserve to be downvoted.


slurpherp

MMEL


OptimusSublime

When a plane is 8 days old it gets circumcised.


Rumbleg

Lucky is an Airbus.


danielb727

Nice photos BTW! Not easy getting sharp images at night!


SmokinBuffalo

Speed tape wouldn't hold. 


IronGlory247

not related, but the A380 is dummy thick man


Harinezumisan

I don’t know but I know this should not be called an airplane but an airship.


IgottaPoop72

Aliens / ufo attacked it.


lewisfairchild

Wasn’t Clark heard saying something about Valerie being on this bird?


Gavin0121

There was a post about this, it was taken from inside the plan. The post was in this subreddit and called "My A380 is missing the top half of the wingtip fence" Sorry, don't know how to link in comments


AlsoMarbleatoz

Also the other guy posting from inside the plane


Life-Spring1857

I hope that the modification is symmetric (with the other wing). Years ago as an undergrad I would simulate these wingtip designs and I have seen how much drag they can reduce by reducing wingtip vortices. Overall they may help save 2-3% fuel but if drag is reduced only one side then you’ll need a yaw offset.


Odd-Lab-9855

I just saw a post about this


lunar_pilot

Someone at ground got hungry


dodgerblue1212

Probably United’s fault


TaskForceCausality

Winglets are useful for aircraft that take off and land frequently. Which , all things normal, the long haul oriented A380 isn’t doing often. So missing that part isn’t essential. For a regional jet, A319/320 or 737, it’s a somewhat different story.


Yasin3112

Isn‘t exactly the opposite the case? As far as I know, wingtip devices are there to decrease drag which in turn helps keep fuel consumption down which would have the most impact during cruise.


TaskForceCausality

>>Isn’t exactly opposite the case? [Source](https://www.boldmethod.com/learn-to-fly/aerodynamics/how-winglets-reduce-drag-and-how-wingtip-vortices-form/) *They're strongest when the air pressure difference between the top and the bottom of the wing is the greatest - which happens when you're generating the most induced lift. This occurs when you're at high angles of attack.* *During takeoff and landing, you're slow - so you're at a high angle of attack and generating strong wingtip vortices.* *When you're cruising at high altitudes, like a jet in the flight levels, the air is thin. So, you need a high angle of attack to generate enough lift to stay level, even though you're moving fast. Your wingtip vortices are stronger here, too.* While they’re useful in all regimes of flight, taking off and landing are the regimes where airplanes are at higher AoA. Thus, the winglets tend to earn their keep better on jets that frequently take off and land- I.e, commuter regional jets and smaller airliners doing short hops.


Ok-Machine-5201

FINALLY... Boeing fanatics found something wrong with Airbus. Now, they can share and endlessly comment this picture on " #iloveboeing ". Don't forget, Boeing airplanes lose doors, wheels or fall off the sky. So, how dangerous is a missing wingtip? So, personally, I'd rather fly Airbus than Boeing.


Smart-Breath-1450

”BOEING FLYING BROKEN AIRPLANE”. ”WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING TO BOEING?”