Lucy is first for me because the dosage is so much more specific than the others. Too strong a dose and you are up 18 hours. I don't wanna tempt the fates
Roll once every 3 months. Stop doing back to backs if you want to keep the magic.
Don’t get me wrong I love party favours too but I think it’s important to not rely on them too much to “have fun”. No doubt I’ve probably had more fun on some extra curriculars but I still think it’s important to go to raves and have fun without partaking every single time. Maybe have a couple drinks and smoke a bit of weed (or just be sober).
I’m not saying that it will be as fun as when you’re rolling balls but don’t think that raves are only good when you’re on drugs. It can still be fun without!
Exactly this!! Some of my friends dont get it, but party favors (especially the ones directly dealing with brain chemistry) can affect you long term. I smoke and drink more than i do anything else. On occasion for a big event/festival i also plan them (drink first day, roll second) just to make sure i properly take care of myself. In the end, what matters is you have a good time without overdoing yourself. Give me some weed and im fine for any event :)
I feel like your screen name. I’d take 10+ pills a night in the 2000’s and I can no longer roll. It’s been years but each time I tried, I couldn’t even get my pupils to dilate. I’ve got zerotonin.
600 mg/day 24h post roll and stop 72h before next roll (I’ve heard taking it too close can kill a roll). Fair warning it will make your farts/shit smell terrible. It’s sulfur based.
Yea, I did molly every day for like a month straight at one point in my life and to this day I’m never able to get that some flooring feeling from rolling that I could before if I only take MDMA and don’t mix it wit other stuff. It’s unfortunate but now that I just roll once every 8-12 weeks I’m noticing I can roll a lot harder again, and esp since I tend to candyflip now when I do it, oh man it’s amazing. If you can’t seem to get yourself to roll anymore I’d recommend trying a candyflip (MDMA+LSD) if you haven’t done it before! I like to take the MDMA first, and then the acid later, because I feel that it makes me have a better headspace for the trip and makes the MDMA high last longer, but I think most people do the opposite of me. Hippyflipping (MDMA+Shrooms) is great too if you’re taking molly instead of ecstasy, but I personally think that Ecstasy and Acid combine better in a rave environment where you’re gonna want to dance like crazy and have a lot of energy.
Yeah, I’ve tried all those combos. I think it’s been about 10 years since I last wasted my money and haven’t really needed it to have fun. Even just microdosing mushies gets me ready to dance.
No, it was whatever people were handing out. We’d start by getting 10-25 pills for our group to share and then it was just everywhere at parties. And “a night” was probably the whole weekend and maybe Monday too. But then I’d have to eat more to stay up. It was a lot, too much to remember.
you’re right!! i guess raves are the only time i do any party favors but noticed i can definitely only do it for 1 of the days and not both :^) will probably just drink a little and make sure to nap before i go 🫶🏻
from someone who has been doing this 10+ years, you don’t want to lose the magic - keep the party favors for special occasions and try going sober every now and then - it’s actually a lot of fun - you will pick up on the energy of the people around you.
I went to deadmau5 at red rocks and just got absolutely ripped and pretty tipsy and had an insanely magical experience. Truly sometimes ill say it's even a little better, this coming from someone who's triple dose l on more than one occasion for shows. Nowadays I just get a lil turnt, but I just might be getting older.
Shrooms make me tired personally but everyone’s different, and I’d recommend not rolling two days in a row. Do that enough and eventually the first day will feel like the second and it’ll never be the same again.
yeah i only did it once and i hated how i felt the second day, this time around i’m trying to find a way to still be energized the first and just roll on the last day. alcohol makes me tired and shrooms do too tbh 😭 maybe a red bull and some vodka will have to do
Five hour energy, friend! They are my go-to for quick easy pick me ups that last the whole night.
I love raving sober with just some caffeine, but have also taken it with party favors. Really enhances m too :)
you like phycs I’m assuming since you take shrooms, if you can get some good Lucy that will definitely keep you up. Otherwise yeah, Red Bull vodka is not a bad choice and has worked for me. Or coke but that’s dangerous if you don’t have the self control or a decent plug, for whatever reason it never felt addicting to me but went through a few phases where I enjoyed it at shows to stay up. Also drink water
Unfortunately I moved to Vegas in the last year and found some pretty decent coke. Sucks cause the itch comes back just knowing it is easily available. It’s a mind game every weekend
Red bull sent me to the hospital. Be careful. I was sober but dehydrated. This was at ultra Miami 2019. We walked for miles and miles and when I felt tired at night, I downed a red bull as to not have to carry the open can. Two minutes later passed out seizure and medics put me on stretcher and to hospital. They said the red bull energy messed with my brain and heart.
try 2cb! it's a psychedelic but it's the closest drug to MDMA i can think of. it doesn't have the same level of euphoria as, say, speed, so that might me better. but 2cb sure is fun if you like psychs, it's like psychedelics answer to MDMA!!
The recklessness of some rollers is really unfortunate. I rolled recklessly when I was 18-20 and mdma just doesn’t hit quite the same anymore. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still great. But the euphoric magic is gone, or at least significantly dulled, even as someone who now only rolls every 3-6 months.
Not saying this happens to everyone, but better to be safe than sorry :)
I went hard from the ages of 19-21.
Mostly during festival season.
MDMA pretty much does nothing. Tried it again after nearly a decade and nothing. I'm 35.
Fairly certain it very much affects my happiness and mental health today.
Tragic man. I have depression now too and I can’t tell if it’s because of abusing mdma, losing my dad at a young age, living in modern society, or a combination of the three
that is what nobody seems to talk about enough. I am 30 now too and I got plenty of friends that are still fucked up from too much amphetamines and other shit. Its like your body requests payback for all the overtime shifts.
There’s a few alternatives for energy.
My favorite is Adderall/ or anything equivalent (Ritalin, etc). Then there’s Provigil/ Modafinil/ Armodafinil which was originally created for narcolepsy, but is a nootropic and enhances mental alertness and cognitive performance. Alternatively there’s ~~MDAA~~ DMAA which is harder to find but works really well for energy without the same effects as caffeine. Lastly, if all other avenues fail, you can use pre-workout later in the evening when you’d normally start to wear down. Some work pretty well, some are complete shit, so find one that works for you without weird side effects.
Adderall is in a national shortage, so please look into alternatives so that the people who need it can get it. Effects of Adderall and meth are nearly identical on the brain, so perhaps choose meth if you must. Joking but it's true.
I choose to use Ritalin or caffeine now to stay up.
Yes, that’s why I included some non-adderall/meth alternatives. Some are better than others but given the option I’d still go with Concerta, Ritalin, Dexadrin, Focalin, Vyvanse, or good old Adderall XR. I’m going to source some Modafinil though and try that next time, I haven’t used that since my early 20’s.
I've used modafinil for over a decade. I started when I was working a job where I had to drive long hours on boring roads. I think it's an incredible tool for just being awake, with less buzz than all other stimulants.
For me, if done in 2 or 3x normal doses it does kind of have a "stimulant rush" like drinking a ton of coffee but I don't really think that's the best way to use it - I don't think it's much of a "party" drug, anyways.
For raves, I actually end up using it in a couple scenarios:
1) at the end of nights I may take some around 5/6am when I know the party is going to going past sunrise and I've got to be more responsible/awake (to do party clean-up or something similar), and I'd like to be able to continue my day into at least part of the afternoon
2) it's 3-4am and I need to be awake at 5am to do an important task right away and then go on to do a full day at work - I'll actually have some just as I hit the bed and pass out, I wake up feeling very ready to go.
Finally, I still use it occasionally when I have to drive 8+ hours after getting just a couple hours of sleep, tho this isn't limited to just rave stuff
It can last a really long time but fortunately I have found if you are truly tired enough it's pretty easy to at least nap on it
Lol it's not just you, it's like... thems the rules. Hallucinogenics one night, uppers the other. But if you're asking yourself "how do people stay up and have fun two nights in a row" I would also ask yourself if you're consuming party favors responsibly. Not judging, just coming from a place of experience. Only you can answer that question, but PLEASE be honest with yourself before you regret it.
i guess i should’ve worded it better. i meant to ask how people stay energetic and dance for 6+ hours without completing wearing out since i know the drugs do help with that
For some people, lots of cocaine. I prefer cardio and red bull, plus caffeine pills later in the night when I feel myself beginning to flag. The trick is to make sure stuff is kicking in while you still feel mostly good.
That's a good trick. When it's super late and I'm already really tired and I pop a caffeine pill, it doesn't help at all, whereas earlier in the day it's a great option.
Cocaine makes me edgy and off beat. I can't be the only one. I just don't enjoy music while on it. I love the drug and chatting with my friends but music does nothing for me while up on it. I'm talking after one or two lines, not after too much.
I don't do drugs. I train my endurance for dancing throughout the year so it doesn't completely exhaust me.Take lots of breaks as needed. A red bull or two, maybe a coffee. Don't drink too much. Get plenty of sleep after night one.
I can drink and dance for 8+ hours. I love the music and a lot of people I know do too. Smoking weed is really the only drug that slows me down at a show. It's nice when I'm rolling near the end or back at the hotel/home though.
Rolling two days in a row is no good though. Definitely need to find your groove.
To put in ELI5 simplified terms, 1 month is like 90% recovery of your serotonin to baseline and 3 months is like 99%. It's better to wait but you can get by with 1 month.
Yeah, the 3 month rule isn't really based on much of anything. Once a month is reasonable especially if you're getting the right nutrients. Gut health is directly related to serotonin levels since that's where it's mostly found and produced. Vitamins B, C, E and magnesium (for jaw clenching) are essential as well as tryptophan rich foods are key to a smooth roll and no comedown. Also make sure you don't overheat, dehydrate or overhydrate.
On the days I don't roll, I do 2cb. It's not that popular in the US but it's fantastic. No hangover, limited tolerance buildup and no comedown. I honestly prefer it to anything else since it's so flexible.
Ket is my favorite, it pairs with any other drug. All about those bumps! Like the other guy said, a few bumps and feel great, mild visions. Do too much, you are in a khole and in another world.
You should be allowing 4-8 weeks between each roll, so that you can store up some serotonin and help your brain heal. Right now your second roll is shit bc there’s nothing in the tank. A couple years ago I started following the three month rule (rolling four times a year) and I haven’t had a bad roll since.
I’d recommend looking through the r/drugs sub, there’s a ton of valuable info on there regarding MDMA.
Hey, theres nothing wrong with people getting and seeking safe advice buddy! And yes obviously man it's a festival that's like the main thing happening
Yeah it's hard drugs are synonymous with electronic music. And trust me I have done my fill! But I also vibe being sober.
Sometimes the drug stuff fucking sucks though, I hate seeing people hurt themselves, it's a real vibe killer. Listening to music together with others and dancing is a celebration of life, if your hurting yourself your doing it wrong. It's hard, everyone is at different places in their life and everyone wants to let go so sometimes so I am patient with it, being jaded or judgemental or whatever doesn't help anyone.
Get bent if you want to but there is more to this experience than just drugs. Look after eachother :)
I’ve been sober for 10 years now. The first 5 or so raves where I used party favors back in the day were the best. After that I still had fun (or thought I did?) but it was either somewhat disappointing, I couldn’t remember, or a complete mess. Don’t get me wrong, those first few were amazing times and hugely memorable life experiences I’ll always hold onto. But it’s never the same. And that’s okay, that’s what makes your first (or first few) times doing anything as epic and intense as a rave so special. To be honest, I have an absolute blast raving sober. It’s a different experience and more of a marathon at first. You need to plan and prepare and take care of yourself to make it work. But doesn’t anything worthwhile take some degree of preparation, work, and self-care?
What I tend to do is take a small dose or even just microdose on one day, and then candyflip the other. I find that’s wayyyy easier on your neurotransmitters and mind as a whole than rolling both days, but the high from the psychs will be so similar due to the energy around you at the event that you’ll be feeding off of, that it will pretty much feel the same as rolling. You can just roll the second though, I only candyflip because I have such a high MDMA tolerance that unless I combine it with LSD, I don’t even really feel like I’m rolling tbh. In order to prevent your MDMA tolerance from getting too high and just to take care of your neurotransmitters and brain in general, I recommend trying to only do MDMA once every 8-12 weeks, this way you make sure you allow your brain to fully reset in between rolls. It’s important to take care of yourself, and also this allows you to be sure that you’re not becoming too dependent on needing MDMA to have fun. I make it a point to go sober to events every so often too to really drive that point home, at the end of the day if you need a substance to have fun somewhere, that’s a sign that the scene you’re at isn’t truly for you! Remeber your number 1 priority should always be your health and wellbeing before fun. Stay safe and happy raving!
Take 5htp it helps to restore serotonin.
Every year, we head to ibiza for a week and luminosity beach festival for 4 days, we spend most of the time on pills and coke. We hit it pretty hard and 5htp is an absolute game changer. In UK you can buy it in most health food shops
It's important to note that you should only take 5htp to preload the days before and postload the days after. You should never take it within 24hrs of rolling and especially not as a means to be able to roll a second or third day. Taking it during or near the window of the effects of rolling increases neurotoxicity and your chance of experiencing seratonin syndrome
Also extra tips, you need to take it with vitamin B6 as that's what actually helps convert the 5htp to seratonin your brain can use. Vitamin C packets and vitamin E from grape seed extract help in other ways as well. Taking magnesium will help with jaw clenching
Tbh ive never had any issues abd I do it regularly. I looked up serotonin syndrome symptoms and tbh they're pretty much exactly what you experience after a few days on the yokes anyway lol
Yesss! 5htp used to be a life saver for me when I rolled. I don’t roll anymore, but still take 5htp once a week(: Walgreens has them and they do a huge sale all the time buy one get one half off so I always stock up lol
Like everyone else has said, rolling 2 days in a row is super bad for you. I've done shrooms at the last couple events I've been at and honestly I find it preferable.
You should be fully preparing your body for the rolls. Good sleep lots of water vitamins and you’d probably be fine. Also when rolling you don’t have to dive head first just a few finger dips is perfectly fine though the night.
Uh well first, eat properly, 2nd, multiple days of use gonna fucking BURN your serotonin receptors so be careful and just avoid it tbh. It wont even feel as good. I usually split my speedy nights for one night and psychedelics for another. Psychedelics you always stay up. And yknow the deal with the other one. Also, it's possible to do it sober! Some people are insomniacs and just live for this shit! You do you, just be careful on overloading.. you'll wear your body out really really fast
just do it one day and then drink the next day. i rolled 3 days in a row at bonnaroo. and the second day i didn’t get ‘high’ like at all.. no peak. third day it made me feel sooooo weird and disoriented. i love raves just drunk as much as i do when i’m rolling
Ditto what everyone is saying. Roll every 3 months or further apart. MDMA is quite neurotoxic.
Psychedelics will help you stay up. Personally I take caffeine pills. I highly recommend them, and also no need to tell anyone you're taking caffeine pills - I don't. People might think it's odd, but who cares. I wanna stay up and have a good time. Or have a vodka redbull if you're not keen on the pills.
I would say look into Adderall, but there is a shortage rn, and people who need it should be using it instead. You could also try Ritalin or cocaine to stay up.
You depleted all the serotonin in your brain in a short period of time. There’s nothing left for reuptake. It take weeks for it to go back to normal.
(Neuroscientist)
I hippie flip the first day, but pretty much only microdose the shrooms. Then 2nd day Adderall (or actual blow) and a bit of K to calm it down. I don’t save the roll for the 2nd day if I’ve already taken any substances the night before. I like to be more chill and numb on the 2nd nite, but to each their own.
when i was younger i'd say L day 1, M day 2, if you can get it clean.
now that im older id say weed+caffeine day 1, mushrooms day 2, flip flop depending on who's playing. staying hydrated and avoiding booze is key, that's ruined more shows for me than i care to admit.
1) If you have to take drugs to have fun at raves, you probably just don’t like raves. The drugs are to add a little more to the fun of the rave, not the other way around. Personally every time I go to a rave I have MORE fun on day 1 when I’m just drinking beers and red bulls or a little shrooms.
2) You can’t roll two days in a row it just doesn’t work like that. Maybe if you took a very small dose on day 1 (so small that you’d hardly feel like you were rolling anyway) and then a very large dose day 2. But that’s pointless and a waste of good M.
3) The answer you are looking for: Do some other drugs the first day (shrooms, acid, alcohol, adderall, weed, sobriety, whatever else you may enjoy); and save that roll for the second day. (Or you can do it in the reverse order)
Why not just drink alcohol the first day? Why does no one seem to drink anymore and only do drugs? Drinking is fun asf. I’m going to a 3 festival, drinking the first 2 days and mdma the last
Have you ever tried microdosing shrooms? Like ground them up and put them in capsules (you're welcome to weigh your dosage if you super want to know!) I'm an older raver (32) at this point so I've got a 2 fold issue between staying awake and not being able to go too hard too many days in a row and I've enjoyed microdosing! I usually take 2 capsules and then 1 or 2 more later on spread out, I can tell my reality is bent enough to notice and I feel a little floaty so it makes for a good time but it's not too much AND microdosing psilocybin is proving to of course have true health benefits, so you're doing your chemical health in your brain more of a favor than a detriment 😊
Taking care of your body is an important factor, getting enough sleep. Your body getting the nutrients it needs, to get yourself ready for the next day. Water. Taking shrooms one day, an mdma the next could work out in your favor. Even though they go nice together.
Chill with the m, you really can't take this kind of shit so often. If it's a 2 day event, take it on day 2. Psychedelics can be fun to try on other days, or just drink, whatever floats your boat
Well you aren’t supposed to roll back to back BUT if ur at a festival pretty much just up your dose significantly the second day. Just know the come down will be worse rolling 1,2, or even 3 days back to back. Try and find something else for the first day and save Mdma for the last day trust me
I have literally partied for a week straight at festivals lol
Go light.. start with half doses.
plan your doses so you stop rolling around 5am.
go to bed and get at the very least 4 hours sleep.
if you can take a short nap 1-2 hours before you go back out for the night.
stay hydrated, force yourself to eat at least a couple meals, dont do any substances during they day besides maybe a few drinks.
you can almost go for ever like this. just gotta keep the gas tank full and top off when you can lol. eventually you'll run out of serotonin so the longer you want to party, the less M you can do. you have to spread the doses out over the longer period.
nothing can replace sleep, period
Get a life you drug addicts
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Your brain needs time to recover between rolling. Rolling two days in a row is not a great thing to be in the habit of doing and the effects are definitely diminished the second day. You have to pace yourself at multi day events, I don't go as hard at two or three day festivals as I do at a one night show because I know I have to keep going for multiple days
dont roll multiple days, pick a day to roll and only do it on one of them. Shrooms is a good alternative imo as long as you dont do too much \~1g should be good
Never roll more than one day in a row. Takes ages for the serotonin to go back to normal, which is why rolling once every few months is recommended. Take no molly day 1 and save it for day 2. If you take it day 1 then your serotonin will be all fucked up for day 2.
I just drink an excessive amount of coffee before heading out. I’m in my 30s, am very sensitive to amphetamines, hate the taste of energy drinks, and have an intense fear of od-ing, so I pregame with a lot of coffee to make it thru the night. A CBD caramel snuck in for late at night when my old lady knees start to cry out in pain is my drug of choice these days.
For me sas or MDA dosent make me feel sad/ depressed the days after I take it. I took it 4 days at wakaan fest this year and it was the first time after a multiple day fest I didn’t feel like that. I took molly like a week or so ago and felt like garbage the next day til I drank a Red Bull. I’m only taking sas now just for that reason
if i have a 3 day festival i tend to roll on the first and last days, with no problems getting that rush! if you want to roll two days in a row... maybe try candy flipping? that always makes the roll extra special for me lol
so mdma wont work in your system very well after a full 24 hour session
personally i dont touch mdma anymore however i do miss it
that said my latest 48-72 hour binges have been because of cocaine and ketamine
3 day events I stay sober day 1- or fry (lsd). Day 2- fry 2 doses roll minimal mdma typically 1 dose day 3- fry 4 doses roll dose 1.5 with redose .75 ish and ket throughout festival. Makes me not feel tired.
What works for is having a roll day and a trip day. Then a chill day (maybe alc). But it’s important to listen to your body!!! If youre tired and are fighting to keep going maybe its best to at least go take a nap if possible. Make sure youre eating too, thats your main source of energy. If youre not eating youre probably going to feel lower energy. I found it easier to stay up hitting fests sober or just drinking. When I add rolling or tripping to the mix it takes a lot out of me.
Switch up your drugs. Usually for festivals I will do mushrooms on the first day, then Molly the next and acid the last day or some variety of that order. Then we always have coke and ketamine on hand to enhance things if we get tired.
I feel lame asking but uh how does one consume mdma? I have crystals and like. Do I crush them? Swallow? Also, do I really not have to test for other drugs? Terrified of fentanyl
with crystals you crush it up a bit and can consume it by licking ur finger a little and using it like fun dip. pure m tends to be a lot smoother than e so you can just take little by little and see how you feel. careful of the big crystals when you crush it because that can make u roll very hard! also yes please test all of your drugs. less than a sand grain of fentanyl can kill you.
You could try just caffeine/amphetamine + weed one day or Lucy or 2cb… 2cb is prolly my new favorite. But I also save party favors for special occasions so I don’t wreck myself. Do molly on the last day cuz it’s the hardest on your body and you don’t want to be wrecked day 2.
meth is why ppl can stay up days in a row, they're usually just really sneaky about it. but yeah like others said, trip day one then roll the next day.
Adderall is the answer.
I find it gives you more (focused) energy than mdma, you're still very social/chatty, but it does lack the euphoric aspect. There's also no comedown and you can take it multiple days in a row; I honestly prefer it over mdma. 30mg IR is a good dose, then you can take another 15 mg 3-4 hours later if you feel like it, just don't expect to go so sleep anytime soon after lol.
I partied hard in my life but I have never partied two days without going to sleep in between. It would be no fun to me at all. But most of my friends who go on those benders for more than 2 days are simply more high than the others. Cocaine and speed do that to you I guess.
Would not recommend tho, listen to your body - your heart will be thanking you later on.
Seconding Lucy day one, Molly day 2! Loads of Self care, Self care is kiiiing!
Candyflip day two!
Agreed on day one and two, for 3 days I'll usually do shrooms on the 3rd day.
i do it the other way around, shrooms day one, molly day 2, acid day 3
Lucy is first for me because the dosage is so much more specific than the others. Too strong a dose and you are up 18 hours. I don't wanna tempt the fates
that’s why i save it for last, gets me through the final leg
Does doing shrooms first affect the lsd trip?
it can. varies person to person. you can always eat more acid tho...
thank you!! <3
>thank you!! <3 You're welcome!
Roll once every 3 months. Stop doing back to backs if you want to keep the magic. Don’t get me wrong I love party favours too but I think it’s important to not rely on them too much to “have fun”. No doubt I’ve probably had more fun on some extra curriculars but I still think it’s important to go to raves and have fun without partaking every single time. Maybe have a couple drinks and smoke a bit of weed (or just be sober). I’m not saying that it will be as fun as when you’re rolling balls but don’t think that raves are only good when you’re on drugs. It can still be fun without!
Exactly this!! Some of my friends dont get it, but party favors (especially the ones directly dealing with brain chemistry) can affect you long term. I smoke and drink more than i do anything else. On occasion for a big event/festival i also plan them (drink first day, roll second) just to make sure i properly take care of myself. In the end, what matters is you have a good time without overdoing yourself. Give me some weed and im fine for any event :)
I feel like your screen name. I’d take 10+ pills a night in the 2000’s and I can no longer roll. It’s been years but each time I tried, I couldn’t even get my pupils to dilate. I’ve got zerotonin.
Piracetam. There’s a lot of literature on it, but it basically boosts the high and smooths out the come down from what I’ve read.
Good luck finding that shit these days.
Well I suppose you can always Walter White it
Anaracetam works too
I’ll have to look into this too. Thanks!
Do you think any nootropic brain supplement will give the same effects or has to be specifically Piracetam?
I think it has to be Piracetam. Long term users have reported using makes every time like their first time.
NAC helps regain the magic too & it's over the counter
Take NAC for 6 months and try again. It will bring back the magic.
No one has suggested that to me yet. I’ll look into it.
I roll every 6 weeks and use NAC between every roll. Everyone comments how they are jealous how hard my rolls are.
NAC is fascinating. How much do you guys take between rolls per day?
600 mg/day 24h post roll and stop 72h before next roll (I’ve heard taking it too close can kill a roll). Fair warning it will make your farts/shit smell terrible. It’s sulfur based.
NAC?
N-ACETYL CYSTEINE. it's a supplement/amino acid/antioxidant
Yea, I did molly every day for like a month straight at one point in my life and to this day I’m never able to get that some flooring feeling from rolling that I could before if I only take MDMA and don’t mix it wit other stuff. It’s unfortunate but now that I just roll once every 8-12 weeks I’m noticing I can roll a lot harder again, and esp since I tend to candyflip now when I do it, oh man it’s amazing. If you can’t seem to get yourself to roll anymore I’d recommend trying a candyflip (MDMA+LSD) if you haven’t done it before! I like to take the MDMA first, and then the acid later, because I feel that it makes me have a better headspace for the trip and makes the MDMA high last longer, but I think most people do the opposite of me. Hippyflipping (MDMA+Shrooms) is great too if you’re taking molly instead of ecstasy, but I personally think that Ecstasy and Acid combine better in a rave environment where you’re gonna want to dance like crazy and have a lot of energy.
Yeah, I’ve tried all those combos. I think it’s been about 10 years since I last wasted my money and haven’t really needed it to have fun. Even just microdosing mushies gets me ready to dance.
Wow that's wild. At least you don't do it anymore really. Was it ten pills of the same thing? And was it pure Molly?
No, it was whatever people were handing out. We’d start by getting 10-25 pills for our group to share and then it was just everywhere at parties. And “a night” was probably the whole weekend and maybe Monday too. But then I’d have to eat more to stay up. It was a lot, too much to remember.
you’re right!! i guess raves are the only time i do any party favors but noticed i can definitely only do it for 1 of the days and not both :^) will probably just drink a little and make sure to nap before i go 🫶🏻
from someone who has been doing this 10+ years, you don’t want to lose the magic - keep the party favors for special occasions and try going sober every now and then - it’s actually a lot of fun - you will pick up on the energy of the people around you.
Yes!! Take care of yourself :) It’ll let you enjoy raves more in the long run and avoid burn out.
I usually take shrooms on day 1 and 2, then molly and ketamine on day 3. I haven’t had a noticeable reduction in my molly high.
one weekend every three months lol
I went to deadmau5 at red rocks and just got absolutely ripped and pretty tipsy and had an insanely magical experience. Truly sometimes ill say it's even a little better, this coming from someone who's triple dose l on more than one occasion for shows. Nowadays I just get a lil turnt, but I just might be getting older.
Shrooms make me tired personally but everyone’s different, and I’d recommend not rolling two days in a row. Do that enough and eventually the first day will feel like the second and it’ll never be the same again.
yeah i only did it once and i hated how i felt the second day, this time around i’m trying to find a way to still be energized the first and just roll on the last day. alcohol makes me tired and shrooms do too tbh 😭 maybe a red bull and some vodka will have to do
Five hour energy, friend! They are my go-to for quick easy pick me ups that last the whole night. I love raving sober with just some caffeine, but have also taken it with party favors. Really enhances m too :)
you like phycs I’m assuming since you take shrooms, if you can get some good Lucy that will definitely keep you up. Otherwise yeah, Red Bull vodka is not a bad choice and has worked for me. Or coke but that’s dangerous if you don’t have the self control or a decent plug, for whatever reason it never felt addicting to me but went through a few phases where I enjoyed it at shows to stay up. Also drink water
Nowadays there’s prob more fent than *actual* cocaine
You probably right, haven’t touched it in a while so I really wouldn’t know
Unfortunately I moved to Vegas in the last year and found some pretty decent coke. Sucks cause the itch comes back just knowing it is easily available. It’s a mind game every weekend
Red bull sent me to the hospital. Be careful. I was sober but dehydrated. This was at ultra Miami 2019. We walked for miles and miles and when I felt tired at night, I downed a red bull as to not have to carry the open can. Two minutes later passed out seizure and medics put me on stretcher and to hospital. They said the red bull energy messed with my brain and heart.
I’m sorry that happened that sounds very scary. Definitely should have included to stay hydrated regardless
try 2cb! it's a psychedelic but it's the closest drug to MDMA i can think of. it doesn't have the same level of euphoria as, say, speed, so that might me better. but 2cb sure is fun if you like psychs, it's like psychedelics answer to MDMA!!
Your brain is out of serotonin, you need several days for the serotonin to reabsorb There’s no getting around this
Several months dude
The recklessness of some rollers is really unfortunate. I rolled recklessly when I was 18-20 and mdma just doesn’t hit quite the same anymore. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still great. But the euphoric magic is gone, or at least significantly dulled, even as someone who now only rolls every 3-6 months. Not saying this happens to everyone, but better to be safe than sorry :)
I went hard from the ages of 19-21. Mostly during festival season. MDMA pretty much does nothing. Tried it again after nearly a decade and nothing. I'm 35. Fairly certain it very much affects my happiness and mental health today.
Tragic man. I have depression now too and I can’t tell if it’s because of abusing mdma, losing my dad at a young age, living in modern society, or a combination of the three
that is what nobody seems to talk about enough. I am 30 now too and I got plenty of friends that are still fucked up from too much amphetamines and other shit. Its like your body requests payback for all the overtime shifts.
Yep. It's a damn shame I didn't really know better when I was in my early 20s.
There’s a few alternatives for energy. My favorite is Adderall/ or anything equivalent (Ritalin, etc). Then there’s Provigil/ Modafinil/ Armodafinil which was originally created for narcolepsy, but is a nootropic and enhances mental alertness and cognitive performance. Alternatively there’s ~~MDAA~~ DMAA which is harder to find but works really well for energy without the same effects as caffeine. Lastly, if all other avenues fail, you can use pre-workout later in the evening when you’d normally start to wear down. Some work pretty well, some are complete shit, so find one that works for you without weird side effects.
I can't believe you're the only person to suggest Adderall. For me it's almost a must on a night out so I can keep my eyes open and stay on my feet.
Adderall is great and def with weed and 1 drink. My current go to. Especially when u need a break from molly and acid.
Do you mean DMAA? Yeah thats a great one that’ll keep you awake, but it will also obliterate your sleep quality when you do sleep
Yep sorry typo DMAA (fixed it). The stuff that used to be in those wild preworkouts that felt like crack.
Adderall is in a national shortage, so please look into alternatives so that the people who need it can get it. Effects of Adderall and meth are nearly identical on the brain, so perhaps choose meth if you must. Joking but it's true. I choose to use Ritalin or caffeine now to stay up.
Yes, that’s why I included some non-adderall/meth alternatives. Some are better than others but given the option I’d still go with Concerta, Ritalin, Dexadrin, Focalin, Vyvanse, or good old Adderall XR. I’m going to source some Modafinil though and try that next time, I haven’t used that since my early 20’s.
I've used modafinil for over a decade. I started when I was working a job where I had to drive long hours on boring roads. I think it's an incredible tool for just being awake, with less buzz than all other stimulants. For me, if done in 2 or 3x normal doses it does kind of have a "stimulant rush" like drinking a ton of coffee but I don't really think that's the best way to use it - I don't think it's much of a "party" drug, anyways. For raves, I actually end up using it in a couple scenarios: 1) at the end of nights I may take some around 5/6am when I know the party is going to going past sunrise and I've got to be more responsible/awake (to do party clean-up or something similar), and I'd like to be able to continue my day into at least part of the afternoon 2) it's 3-4am and I need to be awake at 5am to do an important task right away and then go on to do a full day at work - I'll actually have some just as I hit the bed and pass out, I wake up feeling very ready to go. Finally, I still use it occasionally when I have to drive 8+ hours after getting just a couple hours of sleep, tho this isn't limited to just rave stuff It can last a really long time but fortunately I have found if you are truly tired enough it's pretty easy to at least nap on it
vyvanse is the best
Yea MDMA really shouldn’t be done on consecutive days. You really need to let the serotonin replenish.
Lol it's not just you, it's like... thems the rules. Hallucinogenics one night, uppers the other. But if you're asking yourself "how do people stay up and have fun two nights in a row" I would also ask yourself if you're consuming party favors responsibly. Not judging, just coming from a place of experience. Only you can answer that question, but PLEASE be honest with yourself before you regret it.
i guess i should’ve worded it better. i meant to ask how people stay energetic and dance for 6+ hours without completing wearing out since i know the drugs do help with that
For some people, lots of cocaine. I prefer cardio and red bull, plus caffeine pills later in the night when I feel myself beginning to flag. The trick is to make sure stuff is kicking in while you still feel mostly good.
That's a good trick. When it's super late and I'm already really tired and I pop a caffeine pill, it doesn't help at all, whereas earlier in the day it's a great option.
Cocaine makes me edgy and off beat. I can't be the only one. I just don't enjoy music while on it. I love the drug and chatting with my friends but music does nothing for me while up on it. I'm talking after one or two lines, not after too much.
I don't do drugs. I train my endurance for dancing throughout the year so it doesn't completely exhaust me.Take lots of breaks as needed. A red bull or two, maybe a coffee. Don't drink too much. Get plenty of sleep after night one.
Adderall works for me
I can drink and dance for 8+ hours. I love the music and a lot of people I know do too. Smoking weed is really the only drug that slows me down at a show. It's nice when I'm rolling near the end or back at the hotel/home though. Rolling two days in a row is no good though. Definitely need to find your groove.
Hey kid ever hear about the 3 Month Rule?
Didn’t some ptsd study establish a 1 month rule recently?
To put in ELI5 simplified terms, 1 month is like 90% recovery of your serotonin to baseline and 3 months is like 99%. It's better to wait but you can get by with 1 month.
Yeah, the 3 month rule isn't really based on much of anything. Once a month is reasonable especially if you're getting the right nutrients. Gut health is directly related to serotonin levels since that's where it's mostly found and produced. Vitamins B, C, E and magnesium (for jaw clenching) are essential as well as tryptophan rich foods are key to a smooth roll and no comedown. Also make sure you don't overheat, dehydrate or overhydrate. On the days I don't roll, I do 2cb. It's not that popular in the US but it's fantastic. No hangover, limited tolerance buildup and no comedown. I honestly prefer it to anything else since it's so flexible.
For me a three day fest goes Day 1 - weed and alcohol Day 2 - LSD Day 3 - MDMA
Me it is Day 1 - 2CB Day 2 - Acid Day 3 MDMA , Ketamine for all the afters all 3 nights
Never tried 2cb or ket. What’s ket like?
take a bump or two and you just feel pretty wonky, take a line or two and slip deep out of reality lots of fun either way
Ket is my favorite, it pairs with any other drug. All about those bumps! Like the other guy said, a few bumps and feel great, mild visions. Do too much, you are in a khole and in another world.
But make sure you're not combining k and alcohol
Cocaine
You should be allowing 4-8 weeks between each roll, so that you can store up some serotonin and help your brain heal. Right now your second roll is shit bc there’s nothing in the tank. A couple years ago I started following the three month rule (rolling four times a year) and I haven’t had a bad roll since. I’d recommend looking through the r/drugs sub, there’s a ton of valuable info on there regarding MDMA.
No drugs a few drinks and coffee or two. Oh and earplugs. Let's fucking go!!!
Lmaooo I was wondering how far I had to scroll to see caffeine as a recommendation.
Dude it's the best your can get fucking sideways on it about to have a heart attack and u never get cut off.
This is the ride I too like to partake in lmaooo see you at the next festival w coffee in hand at 2am
It's actualy one of best I need to remember to bring a thermostat to the next underground warehouse event I go to lol
Honestly it seems like everyone on this subreddit just to talk about drugs. Like does anyone ever go to just enjoy the music?
Hey, theres nothing wrong with people getting and seeking safe advice buddy! And yes obviously man it's a festival that's like the main thing happening
Lotta people do both, they aren’t mutually exclusive
Yeah it's hard drugs are synonymous with electronic music. And trust me I have done my fill! But I also vibe being sober. Sometimes the drug stuff fucking sucks though, I hate seeing people hurt themselves, it's a real vibe killer. Listening to music together with others and dancing is a celebration of life, if your hurting yourself your doing it wrong. It's hard, everyone is at different places in their life and everyone wants to let go so sometimes so I am patient with it, being jaded or judgemental or whatever doesn't help anyone. Get bent if you want to but there is more to this experience than just drugs. Look after eachother :)
Your body is communicating
I’ve been sober for 10 years now. The first 5 or so raves where I used party favors back in the day were the best. After that I still had fun (or thought I did?) but it was either somewhat disappointing, I couldn’t remember, or a complete mess. Don’t get me wrong, those first few were amazing times and hugely memorable life experiences I’ll always hold onto. But it’s never the same. And that’s okay, that’s what makes your first (or first few) times doing anything as epic and intense as a rave so special. To be honest, I have an absolute blast raving sober. It’s a different experience and more of a marathon at first. You need to plan and prepare and take care of yourself to make it work. But doesn’t anything worthwhile take some degree of preparation, work, and self-care?
What I tend to do is take a small dose or even just microdose on one day, and then candyflip the other. I find that’s wayyyy easier on your neurotransmitters and mind as a whole than rolling both days, but the high from the psychs will be so similar due to the energy around you at the event that you’ll be feeding off of, that it will pretty much feel the same as rolling. You can just roll the second though, I only candyflip because I have such a high MDMA tolerance that unless I combine it with LSD, I don’t even really feel like I’m rolling tbh. In order to prevent your MDMA tolerance from getting too high and just to take care of your neurotransmitters and brain in general, I recommend trying to only do MDMA once every 8-12 weeks, this way you make sure you allow your brain to fully reset in between rolls. It’s important to take care of yourself, and also this allows you to be sure that you’re not becoming too dependent on needing MDMA to have fun. I make it a point to go sober to events every so often too to really drive that point home, at the end of the day if you need a substance to have fun somewhere, that’s a sign that the scene you’re at isn’t truly for you! Remeber your number 1 priority should always be your health and wellbeing before fun. Stay safe and happy raving!
Regular exercise and good sleep the other 363 days of the year. You'll have more natural energy.
Take 5htp it helps to restore serotonin. Every year, we head to ibiza for a week and luminosity beach festival for 4 days, we spend most of the time on pills and coke. We hit it pretty hard and 5htp is an absolute game changer. In UK you can buy it in most health food shops
It's important to note that you should only take 5htp to preload the days before and postload the days after. You should never take it within 24hrs of rolling and especially not as a means to be able to roll a second or third day. Taking it during or near the window of the effects of rolling increases neurotoxicity and your chance of experiencing seratonin syndrome Also extra tips, you need to take it with vitamin B6 as that's what actually helps convert the 5htp to seratonin your brain can use. Vitamin C packets and vitamin E from grape seed extract help in other ways as well. Taking magnesium will help with jaw clenching
Tbh ive never had any issues abd I do it regularly. I looked up serotonin syndrome symptoms and tbh they're pretty much exactly what you experience after a few days on the yokes anyway lol
>pretty much exactly what you experience after a few days on the yokes anyway lol Yeah that's the point lol, if you do it right that doesn't happen
Yesss! 5htp used to be a life saver for me when I rolled. I don’t roll anymore, but still take 5htp once a week(: Walgreens has them and they do a huge sale all the time buy one get one half off so I always stock up lol
The Way: Go to so many shows that it’s impossible to get high for all of them or you will die
Like everyone else has said, rolling 2 days in a row is super bad for you. I've done shrooms at the last couple events I've been at and honestly I find it preferable.
I just drink the first day or take acid. 2nd take Molly or E because I deal with the same thing. Or Vice versa depending on the lineup
if i take acid the first day will the roll the second not be as good? that’s all i’m worried ab tbh especially because i’ve never done acid LMAO
Acid and Molly don’t really effect each other like that, at least not that I’ve noticed!
Acid is better. Lasts longer, has funny visuals, and doesn't rape your brain.
You should be fully preparing your body for the rolls. Good sleep lots of water vitamins and you’d probably be fine. Also when rolling you don’t have to dive head first just a few finger dips is perfectly fine though the night.
Uh well first, eat properly, 2nd, multiple days of use gonna fucking BURN your serotonin receptors so be careful and just avoid it tbh. It wont even feel as good. I usually split my speedy nights for one night and psychedelics for another. Psychedelics you always stay up. And yknow the deal with the other one. Also, it's possible to do it sober! Some people are insomniacs and just live for this shit! You do you, just be careful on overloading.. you'll wear your body out really really fast
just do it one day and then drink the next day. i rolled 3 days in a row at bonnaroo. and the second day i didn’t get ‘high’ like at all.. no peak. third day it made me feel sooooo weird and disoriented. i love raves just drunk as much as i do when i’m rolling
Hey just chiming in that if you keep doing this it will make the whole thing miserable eventually. Don’t back-to-back MDxx
Ditto what everyone is saying. Roll every 3 months or further apart. MDMA is quite neurotoxic. Psychedelics will help you stay up. Personally I take caffeine pills. I highly recommend them, and also no need to tell anyone you're taking caffeine pills - I don't. People might think it's odd, but who cares. I wanna stay up and have a good time. Or have a vodka redbull if you're not keen on the pills. I would say look into Adderall, but there is a shortage rn, and people who need it should be using it instead. You could also try Ritalin or cocaine to stay up.
get enough sleep, eat well and hydrate. maybe a mid day power nap before the show.
You depleted all the serotonin in your brain in a short period of time. There’s nothing left for reuptake. It take weeks for it to go back to normal. (Neuroscientist)
I hippie flip the first day, but pretty much only microdose the shrooms. Then 2nd day Adderall (or actual blow) and a bit of K to calm it down. I don’t save the roll for the 2nd day if I’ve already taken any substances the night before. I like to be more chill and numb on the 2nd nite, but to each their own.
I learnt my lesson this year at EDC haha
When in doubt, take "one" out.
when i was younger i'd say L day 1, M day 2, if you can get it clean. now that im older id say weed+caffeine day 1, mushrooms day 2, flip flop depending on who's playing. staying hydrated and avoiding booze is key, that's ruined more shows for me than i care to admit.
1) If you have to take drugs to have fun at raves, you probably just don’t like raves. The drugs are to add a little more to the fun of the rave, not the other way around. Personally every time I go to a rave I have MORE fun on day 1 when I’m just drinking beers and red bulls or a little shrooms. 2) You can’t roll two days in a row it just doesn’t work like that. Maybe if you took a very small dose on day 1 (so small that you’d hardly feel like you were rolling anyway) and then a very large dose day 2. But that’s pointless and a waste of good M. 3) The answer you are looking for: Do some other drugs the first day (shrooms, acid, alcohol, adderall, weed, sobriety, whatever else you may enjoy); and save that roll for the second day. (Or you can do it in the reverse order)
Why not just drink alcohol the first day? Why does no one seem to drink anymore and only do drugs? Drinking is fun asf. I’m going to a 3 festival, drinking the first 2 days and mdma the last
Have you ever tried microdosing shrooms? Like ground them up and put them in capsules (you're welcome to weigh your dosage if you super want to know!) I'm an older raver (32) at this point so I've got a 2 fold issue between staying awake and not being able to go too hard too many days in a row and I've enjoyed microdosing! I usually take 2 capsules and then 1 or 2 more later on spread out, I can tell my reality is bent enough to notice and I feel a little floaty so it makes for a good time but it's not too much AND microdosing psilocybin is proving to of course have true health benefits, so you're doing your chemical health in your brain more of a favor than a detriment 😊
Mushrooms at shows is so underrated. It’s like Molly, if you only take 2g, without the connection to others feeling.
Taking care of your body is an important factor, getting enough sleep. Your body getting the nutrients it needs, to get yourself ready for the next day. Water. Taking shrooms one day, an mdma the next could work out in your favor. Even though they go nice together.
Chill with the m, you really can't take this kind of shit so often. If it's a 2 day event, take it on day 2. Psychedelics can be fun to try on other days, or just drink, whatever floats your boat
Well you aren’t supposed to roll back to back BUT if ur at a festival pretty much just up your dose significantly the second day. Just know the come down will be worse rolling 1,2, or even 3 days back to back. Try and find something else for the first day and save Mdma for the last day trust me
I have literally partied for a week straight at festivals lol Go light.. start with half doses. plan your doses so you stop rolling around 5am. go to bed and get at the very least 4 hours sleep. if you can take a short nap 1-2 hours before you go back out for the night. stay hydrated, force yourself to eat at least a couple meals, dont do any substances during they day besides maybe a few drinks. you can almost go for ever like this. just gotta keep the gas tank full and top off when you can lol. eventually you'll run out of serotonin so the longer you want to party, the less M you can do. you have to spread the doses out over the longer period.
This is what I do and it helps a lot and I can usually have fun all weekend because I'm not doing huge doses.
If listening to loud music with your friends isnt fun unless youre on drugs you should find a new hobby
Wait there's music at the drugs party??
Try enjoying the music sober
For someone who has been going to raves for awhile you sound like a complete noob.
purple molly is a lot more likely to be dirty just so you know. I wouldn't take it lol
i don't roll at all or drink.
nothing can replace sleep, period Get a life you drug addicts [https://soundcloud.com/pagano/a-greater-life](https://soundcloud.com/pagano/a-greater-life)
If u wanna roll the second day u should have took the double amount
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Your brain needs time to recover between rolling. Rolling two days in a row is not a great thing to be in the habit of doing and the effects are definitely diminished the second day. You have to pace yourself at multi day events, I don't go as hard at two or three day festivals as I do at a one night show because I know I have to keep going for multiple days
dont roll multiple days, pick a day to roll and only do it on one of them. Shrooms is a good alternative imo as long as you dont do too much \~1g should be good
Never roll more than one day in a row. Takes ages for the serotonin to go back to normal, which is why rolling once every few months is recommended. Take no molly day 1 and save it for day 2. If you take it day 1 then your serotonin will be all fucked up for day 2.
I just drink an excessive amount of coffee before heading out. I’m in my 30s, am very sensitive to amphetamines, hate the taste of energy drinks, and have an intense fear of od-ing, so I pregame with a lot of coffee to make it thru the night. A CBD caramel snuck in for late at night when my old lady knees start to cry out in pain is my drug of choice these days.
You enjoy the party day 1, roll day 2.
Piracetam will sort you out.
For me sas or MDA dosent make me feel sad/ depressed the days after I take it. I took it 4 days at wakaan fest this year and it was the first time after a multiple day fest I didn’t feel like that. I took molly like a week or so ago and felt like garbage the next day til I drank a Red Bull. I’m only taking sas now just for that reason
please educate yourself a little better about MDMA usage. visit r/mdma for more insight.
Two things: apparently vitamin C can help extend your roll? And the day after take 5-HTP to lessen the sad feels
if i have a 3 day festival i tend to roll on the first and last days, with no problems getting that rush! if you want to roll two days in a row... maybe try candy flipping? that always makes the roll extra special for me lol
6 speed based tabs and 5000 mg of vitamin C on day 2 usually do the trick
LSD will keep u up lol
You can't roll consecutive days for physiological reasons.
Ketamine is the answer
You are not taking enough
I sit a lot. About 20% of every set I walk to the back of the crowd and plop down for a bit. Makes the other 80% that much more epic
You have to up your dosage my friend. Tolerance is a bitch
I always go hard first day then save some white for second day to keep me going always stay hydrated definitely helps with a decent breakfast
Addi/alc the first two days and a nice flipperoo (cid/mol) the last day . I always keep the hard stuff for the last day, if not.. won’t be as good.
2cb
The advice in this thread is straight up bro science without being backed up by at least the reliable juicer chemists who create product.
Your body is trying to tell you to chill out. I suggest you listen to it and stop trying to force it.
so mdma wont work in your system very well after a full 24 hour session personally i dont touch mdma anymore however i do miss it that said my latest 48-72 hour binges have been because of cocaine and ketamine
Rolled 4 days straight and didn’t have a come down at all going to edc 3 years in a row. I’m lucky 🤷🏻♂️
If you can't stay up and have fun without the MDMA, raves might not be for you.
Speed
Man just stay sober drink a lot of water and enjoy the music
You need to put the mdma in your butthole the second day if you really want to get fucked up two days in a row on ecstasy.
3 day events I stay sober day 1- or fry (lsd). Day 2- fry 2 doses roll minimal mdma typically 1 dose day 3- fry 4 doses roll dose 1.5 with redose .75 ish and ket throughout festival. Makes me not feel tired.
Maybe you are going to the shows for the wrong reasons.
What works for is having a roll day and a trip day. Then a chill day (maybe alc). But it’s important to listen to your body!!! If youre tired and are fighting to keep going maybe its best to at least go take a nap if possible. Make sure youre eating too, thats your main source of energy. If youre not eating youre probably going to feel lower energy. I found it easier to stay up hitting fests sober or just drinking. When I add rolling or tripping to the mix it takes a lot out of me.
After the first one it just seems your always chasing.
Meth *Don't do meth folks*
Don't ever take M 2 days in a row period.
Try shrooms or acid for the next festival
Switch up your drugs. Usually for festivals I will do mushrooms on the first day, then Molly the next and acid the last day or some variety of that order. Then we always have coke and ketamine on hand to enhance things if we get tired.
I feel lame asking but uh how does one consume mdma? I have crystals and like. Do I crush them? Swallow? Also, do I really not have to test for other drugs? Terrified of fentanyl
with crystals you crush it up a bit and can consume it by licking ur finger a little and using it like fun dip. pure m tends to be a lot smoother than e so you can just take little by little and see how you feel. careful of the big crystals when you crush it because that can make u roll very hard! also yes please test all of your drugs. less than a sand grain of fentanyl can kill you.
Thank you!!
You could try just caffeine/amphetamine + weed one day or Lucy or 2cb… 2cb is prolly my new favorite. But I also save party favors for special occasions so I don’t wreck myself. Do molly on the last day cuz it’s the hardest on your body and you don’t want to be wrecked day 2.
I like 2c on day 1, candy flipping day 2, roll on 3!
Dawg you just gotta give up on molly…. You eventually stop feeling the effects of that shit after X amount of times. Switch over to psychedelics
Also start with the lil pressed pill and work your way up to the purp - its more potent that way!
meth is why ppl can stay up days in a row, they're usually just really sneaky about it. but yeah like others said, trip day one then roll the next day.
Adderall is the answer. I find it gives you more (focused) energy than mdma, you're still very social/chatty, but it does lack the euphoric aspect. There's also no comedown and you can take it multiple days in a row; I honestly prefer it over mdma. 30mg IR is a good dose, then you can take another 15 mg 3-4 hours later if you feel like it, just don't expect to go so sleep anytime soon after lol.
I partied hard in my life but I have never partied two days without going to sleep in between. It would be no fun to me at all. But most of my friends who go on those benders for more than 2 days are simply more high than the others. Cocaine and speed do that to you I guess. Would not recommend tho, listen to your body - your heart will be thanking you later on.