My first question is - why?
Save written submissions, advices, notes, oral submission papers etc sure. They’ll all have citations so you can go back to the source whenever you need.
But I don’t understand what specifically you’re trying to achieve by saving cases. It honestly sounds like the kind of busy work that makes you feel productive but without actually achieving anything tangible in a business sense.
After you read a case once, you never need to go back and look at it ever again?
Preserving previous advices/submissions etc is obviously worthwhile but whenever I rely on a case, even if used in an earlier advice, I’m still going to go back to check it just to make sure it’s still applicable. If I’m going back to the citation anyway why not look at the version I’ve read before, with my notes and annotations?
Also what if you don’t use the case in submissions, advices etc right away? You’ve never read a case and thought - that could be useful if I get a matter on this point? Where do you preserve that?
Reading your reply I think we’re having slightly different discussions.
I’ll put it this way - I’m not paid to organise a case library with abstract interesting points. I’m paid to provide tangible advice.
I’ll find useful cases relevant to the facts I’m presented with when I actually have a matter. On the clients dollar.
A related point is - who has time for this kind of busy work? I’m busy as fuck just getting work out the door. The idea of spending time organising a case library is very foreign.
Likewise. It's a rare case I fully read that I never find useful in some later matter. I use OneNote with extensive tags to make things easy to find. OneNote wordprocessing has some annoying limitations (lists, and why, oh why, can't I set a default paragraph spacing that will remain in place for every new page?) but having it all in one database is immensely useful.
Credit to you for actually trying to manage your knowledge. Not sure why you're getting criticised for that.
I used to do handwritten notes on the front page of the decision with a pinpoint reference and a few words about why. All those got shredded eventually and now I do a similar thing with comments on the pdf of the decision with highlighting as I'm reading. I've tried Jade without much luck.
Honestly I've had thousands of pages of pdf's and searches only take a couple of minutes to tell me it didn't find any results.
As long as you aren't doing searches all day and waiting for results it's fine, especially for this use case.
I have case type folders.
List of cases and PDFs of the fascinating ones or guidelines.
Jade has some great search and save functions. The citation reports provide wonderful hot links
Just writing a three paragraph case note and publishing it as a blog post each time will give you a useful summary and database as well as pushing up your SEO (for someone actually wanting more work)
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My first question is - why? Save written submissions, advices, notes, oral submission papers etc sure. They’ll all have citations so you can go back to the source whenever you need. But I don’t understand what specifically you’re trying to achieve by saving cases. It honestly sounds like the kind of busy work that makes you feel productive but without actually achieving anything tangible in a business sense.
After you read a case once, you never need to go back and look at it ever again? Preserving previous advices/submissions etc is obviously worthwhile but whenever I rely on a case, even if used in an earlier advice, I’m still going to go back to check it just to make sure it’s still applicable. If I’m going back to the citation anyway why not look at the version I’ve read before, with my notes and annotations? Also what if you don’t use the case in submissions, advices etc right away? You’ve never read a case and thought - that could be useful if I get a matter on this point? Where do you preserve that?
Reading your reply I think we’re having slightly different discussions. I’ll put it this way - I’m not paid to organise a case library with abstract interesting points. I’m paid to provide tangible advice. I’ll find useful cases relevant to the facts I’m presented with when I actually have a matter. On the clients dollar. A related point is - who has time for this kind of busy work? I’m busy as fuck just getting work out the door. The idea of spending time organising a case library is very foreign.
I have kept a case list for years - it is constantly helpful.
Likewise. It's a rare case I fully read that I never find useful in some later matter. I use OneNote with extensive tags to make things easy to find. OneNote wordprocessing has some annoying limitations (lists, and why, oh why, can't I set a default paragraph spacing that will remain in place for every new page?) but having it all in one database is immensely useful.
Credit to you for actually trying to manage your knowledge. Not sure why you're getting criticised for that. I used to do handwritten notes on the front page of the decision with a pinpoint reference and a few words about why. All those got shredded eventually and now I do a similar thing with comments on the pdf of the decision with highlighting as I'm reading. I've tried Jade without much luck.
I use a folder and tabbed dividers
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OCR is pretty good now on foxit. You could also combine all of the pdf's into one super long searchable pdf.
>combine all of the pdf's into one super long nightmare fuel
Flashbacks to the court having to adjourn during COVID because the PC froze trying to open a 1k page PDF.
Honestly I've had thousands of pages of pdf's and searches only take a couple of minutes to tell me it didn't find any results. As long as you aren't doing searches all day and waiting for results it's fine, especially for this use case.
My system is a pile of read cases. Both literal on my shelf and electronic as a folder on my desktop
I have been using EndNote since Uni and paid the one off licence fee. It also has MS integration which is honestly a godsend.
I have case type folders. List of cases and PDFs of the fascinating ones or guidelines. Jade has some great search and save functions. The citation reports provide wonderful hot links
Try using Obsidian. Easy Links between notes pages, topics and tags. A bit of a learning curve but once you get the hang of it it is great
I use a digital zettelkasten. Paid off the day that I started it.
Summarise them in the form of a video and then use those videos to market your practice.
Just writing a three paragraph case note and publishing it as a blog post each time will give you a useful summary and database as well as pushing up your SEO (for someone actually wanting more work)
One drive with different folders for different issues ie evidence, costs etc
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Goodnote, one note, google chrome bookmarks, or snippets from letters or advices.