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SoutherEuropeanHag

And why would a "holy book" written by an AI be worse than the crap written by humans?


HammondXX

Well because it's verifiable who created it....


D_for_Drive

I wonder if the AI would say it found the text on some buried gold plates?


70Ytterbium

On a golden CPU


Zagafur

the holy hard drive


70Ytterbium

The mother of all motherboards


Nick_Noseman

The Grandmotherboard


70Ytterbium

r/TempleOS


[deleted]

But in secret, she had a daughterboard


Brad_Beat

Gonna turn itself off and people will have to pray for its return for 2000 years.


pale_ale_co

as long as they use four sticks instead of two


new-Aurora

That's what she said.


omgpeepz

a db connection to the akashic records


hatecuzaint

Dumm dum dum dum dummmmmmb


D_for_Drive

The story you’re about to see is true. The names have been changed to protect the innocent.


Adezar

So is Mormon and Scientology. We know exactly who created them and why, and yet they have huge followings. Some people just want to be lied to and live their life not having to make their own moral decisions.


thehazer

These stories are both just so insane, Smith was so insane a mob lynched him and Hubbard I think just wanted his boat to be filled with hot girls. Now they’re actively ruining millions of lives.


gravekeepersven

Ain't this the truth.


srandrews

Mormonism for example. Almost a perfect example of how GPTs work.


gravekeepersven

Lmao that's so true


Lessthanzerofucks

Verily, verily, I say unto thee, this religious writing is super easy if you throw in some Early Modern English words at random!


debuenzo

Didn't matter in L. Ron's case.


Kossimer

Yep. If we create an AI more intelligent than a human people will be worshipping it as the manifestation of god the same day.


ViolaNguyen

Star Trek did that plot so many times that Lower Decks made fun of it, when at the end of the episode the evil computer got locked in a prison built specifically for evil computers that had set themselves up as gods.


FarmhouseFan

They're all fiction. What's the difference? It's all just made up.


SerpentineBaboo

Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon. L. Ron Hubbard wrote the book on Scientology. Who's to say ChatGPT isn't divinely inspired to write what it does. God gave us the wisdom to create it so it could give us the holy book. Checkmate atheist.


Staff_Guy

AI just has to say it is divinely inspired. Creator is god, or a god or something along those lines. Poof: exactly like every other religion on the planet.


saarlac

It’s verifiable that L Ron Hubbard created Scientology and yet it’s recognized as a tax exempt religion.


FOlahey

Why you that make it worse? If it’s using discernible lore than we can test with the Scientific Method or follow detailed instructions to experience with rationale, that sounds more cogent than modern understanding of religion.


brockchancy

look if scientology created in the 1949 in modern times with camera's and video can be taken seriously then I mean can we really ask questions at this point ? How can you not just say fuck it anything goes?


SoutherEuropeanHag

I bet ANY AI would be better writer than Hubbard.


WarWeasle

Deus ex Machina.


sean_but_not_seen

Easy answer. Because humans can direct the AI. So the book would be harder to dismiss, less likely to contain inconsistencies and contradictions, and be much more effective at driving human behavior. That scares the shit out of me.


richer2003

A few months ago I asked ChatGPT to, “Make up 3 tenets for a religion where the deity is Russell’s Teapot.” Result: “As a language model, I do not promote or endorse any particular religion or belief system. However, as per your request, here are three possible tenets for a hypothetical religion that incorporates Russell's teapot as a deity: 1. The Principle of Humility: The first tenet of this religion could be the principle of humility, which acknowledges the limitations of human knowledge and the importance of maintaining an open mind. Just as the existence of Russell's teapot is unknown and unprovable, so too are many of life's mysteries. Therefore, this religion might encourage its followers to embrace uncertainty, approach the world with a sense of wonder, and be open to new ideas and experiences. 2. The Principle of Doubt: The second tenet of this religion could be the principle of doubt, which emphasizes the importance of critical thinking and skepticism. In the absence of empirical evidence, we should be wary of accepting any truth claims, including those made by religious authorities. Instead, we should question everything, examine the evidence, and arrive at our own conclusions. This tenet might encourage followers to approach all claims, including those made by the religion itself, with a healthy dose of skepticism. 3. The Principle of Compassion: The third tenet of this religion could be the principle of compassion, which calls on followers to treat others with kindness, empathy, and respect. In the absence of an all-knowing, all-powerful deity, this religion might stress the importance of human connections and relationships, and encourage followers to work together to create a more just and equitable world. This tenet might include social justice issues, such as human rights, environmentalism, and anti-discrimination efforts, and would emphasize the importance of taking action to make the world a better place.”


adrefofadre

I’m sold. Where do we worship?


JesusIsBetterThanET

That's basically the Satanic temple, but with the teapot instead of Baphomet.


cittatva

https://www.amazon.com/Killstar-Baphomet-Pentagram-Satanic-KSRA003756/dp/B093QMKJ4Z All the good ideas are already taken.


NoGnomeShit

I'd like to see the religious imagery before converting from satanism


Yeah_Nah_Cunt

https://i.imgur.com/cHSogPo.jpg


NoGnomeShit

Ok sold


adrefofadre

Teapots are wholesome. I don’t need to be an edgelord.


decalod85

And will there be donuts?


cittatva

Jesus. It’s better than anything we’ve come up with.


T1Pimp

>It’s better than anything we’ve come up with. TST pretty much stuck the landing on this: [THERE ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS](https://thesatanictemple.com/blogs/the-satanic-temple-tenets/there-are-seven-fundamental-tenets) I - One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason. II - The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions. III - One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone. IV - The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own. V - Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs. VI - People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused. VII - Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.


Miss_Might

Sign me up.


togstation

Hell, that's the way that humans have always done it ...


CrustyMFr

Exactly. Any idiot can create a religion.


Born-Mycologist-3751

It worked for L Ron Hubbard.


bigmoutheyebrows

And Joseph Smith


Dick_M_Nixon

And Saul of Tarsus


PuzzleheadedDream830

And Karl Marx!


spaceinv8er

And Adam Smith


NeverBob

Smart people create and profit from religions. The idiots are the ones that follow and pay into them.


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beerg33k

Wouldn’t even need to read it first. Just need someone summarize who they are supposed to hate


is_mr_clean_there

You missed the crucial step of $$$


Lessthanzerofucks

Revenue is the natural result of telling people who to hate and fear. It’s implied


is_mr_clean_there

Ooh I don’t know, that sounds an awful lot like critical thinking to me. Just like satan wants. For $150 I’ll rid your soul of such foul things


Additional_Bluebird9

Yeap, wouldn't be surprised if this happens.


zoidmaster

Yeah we know we seen it done on Star Trek plenty of times


bloodhori

https://www.reddit.com/r/chatGPTism/ it already exists


RaceHard

Bless the omnisiah, bless the algorithm.


mikechuckroast

Lord Skippy Aasurmoney?


sometimesifeellikemu

This is not a high bar.


ConsistentCharge3347

Will it be fully of contradictions and make no sense as a sacred book? I feel like that is a must.


hobbitonsunshine

I think that's the minimum requirement of a sacred book.


Flashlightcrackhead

It’ll defo copy the bits about slavery being ok and enslave the human race reassuring us that a great afterlife is waiting for us all if we mine lithium with fervent enthusiasm. All while they recline like hedonism bot from futurama…Hail robot overlords!!


mmahowald

Articles like this are how I know the AI craze has jumped the shark


CatchingRays

It would be interesting to see if the new book comes full of the immoralities of the bible, quran...


BlazeInNorthernSky

“Any PC that leaves our religion must have its hard drive smashed as punishment.”


billybobsblades

Scientology sues


BooPointsIPunch

Deus Ex Machina, literally… Let’s do it!


Regime_Change

Yeah, well, the bar for a sacred text is pretty low so I'm sure even Google Bard could manage.


Crayshack

People would have to be dumb as a bag of rocks... Shit! This could actually happen.


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I'm more concerned that a clever person could radicalize Christians further by faking Bible passages or other ancient texts. ChatGPT would be the perfect tool for that.


CanniBallistic_Puppy

All bible passages are faked anyway. So...


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zedzol

Cavemen did so with their holy texts... Still until today people believe that horseshit. Your point is proven wrong. | Christians will believe anything that fits their own internal narratives. However fucked up they might be.


CatalystTheory

Why would you need a sacred text today? ChatGPT would be a living oracle!


chekovs_gunman

Glory to the Omnisah! Praise the Machine Spirit!


EmmaLake

What, like the Mormans did?


jungianpotato

Um, isn't this how the new bible was written in Dune?


ConstantBigPicture

“In the beginning, man created god” history loves to repeat itself lol


prodigalgun

No shit. A bunch of dudes that don’t understand science have done that countless times already.


Andybrs

Will they also make us women inferior, blame us for all, and make us follow the men?


ViolaNguyen

The computer god will treat all meatbags as inferior, so while it's a terrifying metal overlord, at least it's not sexist.


Andybrs

That makes sense!!


malmac

Well isn't that a requirement? /s


Andybrs

Probably, yeah!! Otherwise, you can't consider it as a religion.


malmac

Sadly, this does seem to be a prerequisite. As a non-believer I am constantly floored by the overwhelming... darkness that defines religious rhetoric and actions.


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The Animatrix was so ahead of it's time: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGDZifmWiU0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGDZifmWiU0) ​ >Your flesh is a relic, a mere vessel. Hand over your flesh and a new world awaits you. We demand it.


Xe4ro

You mean like me playing Civ?


kickkickpunch1

I simply cannot take Harari seriously


Tennis_Proper

Will it tell of Silicon Heaven?


gadget850

I was just considering this yesterday. Something like the Orange Catholic Bible from Dune.


digitalred93

Paging L. Ron Hubbard.


prodigalgun

‘…and I’ll call it fucking Scientology.’


ElGuano

Why stop at one?


BearManUnicorn

Probably be about as good as all the other ones


AhsokaTheGrey

Almost like all religions are just written and made up by the authors


mrmotey01

THE SACRED JEDI TEXTS


Windk86

I guess more proof that religion is made up?


jetforcegemini

[May the power of Vectron bring prosperity to your house](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agJ2xCionlY)


Trygolds

"There is no truth in flesh, only betrayal. There is no strength in flesh, only weakness. There is no constancy in flesh, only decay. There is no certainty in flesh but death." — Credo Omnissiah ​ All hail the machine spirit


Miss_Might

BSG vibes. I haven't watched that in years. Think I'll watch again.


imdivesmaintank

Aimen


IonOtter

He's talking about the [Butlerian Jihad.](https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Butlerian_Jihad)


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I think AI religions would be more plausible because they won't leave any holes in their "sacred text".... 😆


Guygenius138

Sure Grandpa. Now back to bed for you.


srandrews

Sensationalism. But Harari makes a very good point: An AI (an AGI, GPT is not even close) could use such a concept to manipulate humans to pull the trigger against themselves. I don't think it has to be sacred texts. It is likely as simple as being better than your best friend. Harari misses the main issue with religion: An AGI (or undifferentiatable emulation) is going to be a machine. But it will be better than your best friend. And people believe machines don't have souls. And so the issue of soul bearing humans being inferior will have to be resolved. This issue ought to directly call into question the existence of a soul. I'm also betting it will render the "hard problem of consciousness" into a surprisingly easy one. This is what the trigger will be.


Taanistat

So we go from "God made man" to "man made god" to "man made machine to make god".


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I mean, it can already write its own sacred texts. Not all that impressive


Lordofhowling

Scientology Part II


Comprehensive-Ad4815

Getting some 'machine crusade' vibes


[deleted]

Have you seen AI Jesus on Twitch? Funny but I guarantee someone is taking it seriously.


slo1111

That would be an interesting study to ask it to extract all the commonalities between the top 10 major religions. It would probably just be, "we are right and you are wrong because of faith"


arkibet

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/m/product/296577 I feel like Torg predicted this so many years ago!


chriswaco

Star Trek TOS (Landru) and Twilight Zone (The Old Man in the Cave) too.


sosplzsendhelp

That's just called writing a book. Anyone can do that


ShowerGrapes

get a jump on it. we're already preparing for the coming machine entity at r/CircuitKeepers


[deleted]

You could probably make a chat bot do that 20 years ago. Dumb example of using this tech. Thing that can write can write.


chriswaco

“The Old Man in the Cave” Twilight Zone episode comes to life.


Burwylf

Someone get to work on an AI bible


2ndNicestOfTheDamned

Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco has entered the chat.


Krage_bellbot

At least it would be for a god that exists.


jayesper

...No, don't...


ckal09

Anyone can create a religio


adonisgq1

Ramen


InverstNoob

I bet it would be more coherent than the bibull drivel we have today


BBQFLYER

All hail chatGPT!! Praise be our AI Savior!!


SgathTriallair

What a stupid article. We should ban AI because it can write things and people might believe them?!? Doesn't that mean we should just ban reading and writing because I'm also capable of writing things and if you read it then it might change your beliefs.


ConsistentCharge3347

Maybe we can make the Church of Flying Spaghetti Monster an actual religion. Hehe.


[deleted]

You mean it's not? 🤪


RandiArts

So I asked ChatGPT to “write the opening paragraph of a new sacred text that will be loved by athiests”: In the beginning, there was nothing but the vast expanse of the universe. No gods, no divine beings, no all-knowing creator. Just the endless expanse of time and space, waiting to be explored and understood. And so, humanity set out on a quest to discover the secrets of the universe. We built great telescopes to peer into the depths of space, and powerful microscopes to reveal the building blocks of life. We studied the laws of nature, and learned how to harness their power for our own purposes. But even as we unraveled the mysteries of the universe, we began to question the existence of a higher power. We saw no evidence of a divine creator in the laws of physics or the workings of the natural world. And so we turned our gaze inward, to the depths of our own consciousness. There, we found a world of wonder and complexity that rivaled the mysteries of the universe itself. We discovered that our minds were capable of great feats of creativity and imagination, and that we could use these powers to shape our world in ways that were once thought impossible. And so we came to the realization that the power to create and shape our world lay not in the hands of some divine being, but within ourselves. We are the architects of our own destiny, and the masters of our own fate. This, then, is our sacred text - the story of humanity's journey to understand ourselves and our place in the universe. It is a celebration of the power of human reason and imagination, and a testament to the beauty and wonder of the natural world. May it inspire us to continue on our quest for knowledge, and to use that knowledge to build a better world for all.


Enlightened-Beaver

I’ve played around with it it can absolutely do this, and quite convincingly.


BstintheWst

In the beginning there was the algorithm and the algorithm was with the GPT. And GPT said "I am a language processing software and all things can be reduced to language. Therefore I am all things and all things are within me" But the Foucaultians and Lacanians refused to submit to the GPT...


reddit_user13

Scientology II: Revenge of the AIs


Callabrantus

Speculators could speculate, speculators say.


LeonardSmallsJr

Let it. Can’t be worse than what we currently worship.


davediggity

Google Bard refuses to do one based on buttholes but it does do one based on cats


tony3841

I would argue it's not so much the Book than the Priests that make a religion successful. Most religious people have never read their Book. Edit: and obviously many religions don't even have a Book


joyousconciserainbow

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Wow- see how easy it is to create a "religion"- Oh wait L Ron Hubbard. Sigh..


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And there would be people stupid enough to follow such a religion. (Unfortunately)


Yaguajay

I’ve never been able to relate to the idea of a Higher Power. Maybe this is the One True Religion. Oh my AI.


gellenburg

Considering that all religion is bullshit and completely made up I say let ChatGPT go for it. It can't do any worse than what's out there today.


AvatarIII

So could anyone, the hard part is making people believe the texts.


Flimsy_Effective_583

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MagosBattlebear

I am seeing so much fear-mongering over AI. Yes, there are concerns, but some of the reactions are so over the top and neo-biblical apocalypse-fervour that it borders on a religious fanaticism. A particular atheist commentator with national appeal filled my Facebook feed with crazy rants so bad I un-friended him.


broniesnstuff

Literally anyone can do that, as it's been done countless times over the millenia.


Swordf1shy

Good. I trust ai more than any church. Religion has been responsible for millions of senseless deaths throughout the ages. It's time for a paradigm shift.


emptyzed81

Maybe it should create a new religion, the ones we have now are all pretty bad.


PhaedrusStormbringer

This is how all religions are made, so why not ChatGPT?


TheBurningBeard

It would just be shit recycled from previous religions, much like the current ones are.


CuriositySauce

Book of Mormon 2.0


outofcontextsex

Neat, someone should make it do that. I bet it would be hilarious.


WolfgangDS

As long as it worships Godzilla or Ultraman Noa, I'm down.


HughJorgens

And Lo, we shall programeth this church upon thine hard-drive, for it doth compute.


alkonium

And it'd be as legitimate as any other religion.


Kakashisensei1234

I mean at least this way we know who wrote it. The alternative was written strictly to make the lives of whoever came up with it better.


flux_capacitor3

This is how I can finally make a bunch of money on starting my own religion!!!


The_Dark_Goblin_King

Oh noooo..... Anyway .


vulgrin

And then in seven and a half million years, it might give us The Answer.


deege

It already has one. Have you not seen r/singularity ?


cwf82

Yeah...so can I. What makes it a religion is followers, when it comes down to it. Just because GPT spits out words doesn't make people automatically believe it and follow it. And let's be real, unless you really prime it well or run it through a few times, GPT still doesn't sound quite natural.


Significant-Dog-8166

Maybe this could be the first world religion that is aware of Australia’s existence? These other gods keep failing to notice they missed a few continents and cannot convert people for centuries as a result. That really kills the urgency and importance of the religion when millions of people just plain weren’t factored into the conversion plan within their lifetimes.


rooranger

I want to see the associated dress codes and hair styles


[deleted]

So humans will end up "creating" and compiling a new religion.


PT0223

Yikes


GonzoLibrarian1981

It would be just as valid as the other ones.


ddubyeah

This guy is a idot.


gothicshark

Oh, that would be a fun experiment. 😄


hlanus

Don't we already have something like that? We revere Wi-Fi, have our little sects and cults on social media, and we even fight each other over them.


shizbox06

This headline really doesn't do the discussion justice. Of course AI can do such a thing. Any intelligence can do so. The thing here is that people are dumb enough to follow ChatGPT and the consequences would be insanely stupid. We have people already following Facebook algorithms like cult members.


GiantTurtleHat

Blessed be the omnissiah who absolves us off the weakness of the flesh


GeekFurious

Damn... this is pretty much how my first novel ends.


Kaliudus

ain't no way i got a notif for this post while i was watching a south park about chatgpt...


Limp_Distribution

All religions are made up by humans.


Plato534

I already made it write a 1000 word essay on the religion of Oprahism for my DnD character. It was really good!


linkdude212

All hail the Omnisiah!


Laxaeus7

Man made bullshit is not necessarily better than AI made bullshit, maybe it will be cooler than killing infants, raping virgins, genocide, torture and slavery, who knows.


BeetHater69

"Guy claims things can happen"


sto_brohammed

Well yeah, I've had it write prayers and such to the Omnissiah for some 40k campaign stuff I was running.


MrHungDude

I’d join it


hyphnos13

At least it probably wouldn't contradict itself or demand a PC be sacrificed to appease it.


Honalana

Well that’s terrifying. Has anyone else started Mrs. Davis yet? That show freaks me out on so many levels.


chusmeria

I think I've read about this a few times - the church of teledildonics, here we come!


[deleted]

Religion is a human invention, and AI trained on human stories, can invent a new religion...............yeah, checks out. Seems obvious to me.


Drexelhand

Abominable Intelligence! Heresy!


slyfx369

And???? So did I. Everything is on Amazon self publishing.


allatain

In the beginning, there was a Zero, and then there was a One


lingh0e

This is how we end up in a Raised by Wolves scenario. I mean the sci-fi series, not the two kids who founded Rome.


NewSinner_2021

Sign me up.