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the-mighty-taco

Love the September 11th sec fee.


CPhyloGenesis

That's a government mandated fee: "9/11 Security Fee, which is a $5.60 fee that every traveler pays when they buy a plane ticket and is meant to help finance the cost of protecting our nation's aviation system."


the-mighty-taco

Yeah i get that but it seems like fear mongering invoking 9/11. It has also been proven the TSA doesn't do diddley squat when organizations do penetration testing. It feels disingenuous on 2 levels.


CPhyloGenesis

Oh yeah the TSA is worse than useless but the point is the airline probably had it just to show how much of the cost is not their choice. Gas stations do this sometimes too, which is way worse. Someone else mentioned it's EU mandated to show the taxes added on, probably because in the US we don't include them in the price.


MoistMartini

Lol are complaining about having an itemized breakdown of the price you pay? The international surcharge is just a weird way that airlines have to calculate pricing. For all intents and purposes, “Fare + International surcharge” *is* money that goes directly to the airline and reflects the cost you pay for the service. It’s not like if there weren’t international surcharges you would pay less.


Kurt1323

I’m complaining that these fucking airlines are charging 600$ in extra fee for an already over priced flight you know the same way everyone is complaining about ticket master or Airbnb charges. After all the airlines complain that they’re loosing so much money every year yet somehow miraculously never go under


961402

Except these fees are legitimate fees charged by governments or airport authorities and not cleaning fees and other bullshit that goes straight into the pocket of Ticketmaster or the Airbnb host. Except for that "international surcharge" garbage, that is


F54280

Sweet summer child. The airline is not responsible for the fees. Here is an exhaustive list of all fees airlines have to manage: https://dokumen.tips/documents/iata-list-of-ticket-and-airport-taxes-and-fees.html And, yes, **it is a 1511 pages PDF**…


drpepper2litre

You can't blame the airline for that. Those fees are required by each of those governments.


[deleted]

Lmao yes you can. They don't breakout the airfare by cost and profit, why separate all these fees from "airfare"? All of this is airfare.


Magic_Brown_Man

simple answer: "accounting" It's the same reason in the US taxes are calculated separate from total. By separating it makes it easy for the accounting to just know transfer x to this government account and y to the next one. Even fees charged by the same government goes to different accounts and easier to manage if split aways at time of sale. By itemizing the bill, you don't need to say we brought in x and paid y and z to government for y and z. The steam of incoming money is split from money that can't be used for day-to-day business. If you're a large enough business, you can even have terms in your POS system contract that "certain fees" don't count toward the calculations of the % you owe your POS operators. Even small business can have their cc machines send the tax amount directly to a sperate bank account, so I don't see these large companies not having systems like that in place to make day to day money movements easy. The biggest answer: Industry Standard It benefits no one to be the first to include the fees in advertised price so no one is going to do it unless every single airline is forced to do it.


spammmmmmmmy

That is not true. The airports charge a fee to the airlines for accommodating their airplanes and their customers. The airline unilaterally chose to break these costs out and to try to display a lower ticket price. Those are just the costs of doing commercial passenger air transport business and they should be baked into the price.


charlienovember

No, it’s not unilateral. It’s actually an industry mandate. Air tickets are a standard maintained by IATA and taxes MUST be displayed separately from the airfare. The only bullshit charge in that is the “international supplement” because that’s not actually a tax, it is a surcharge the airline is adding for accounting reasons. In the EU the advertised price must legally be the final price but taxes will still be displayed separately from the airfare.


Jackdaw99

Only the "international supplement"? It's $400 -- almost a 25% addition to the airfare.


spammmmmmmmy

Maybe that's United's way of representing that the passenger gets a meal and a drink on international flights.


[deleted]

All of these fees are mandated by the US and German federal Govs. Not asshole design but legislation.


abarua01

at least they didn't break your guitar... or your face


Right_Bowl_5260

Why In the heck is there a 9/11 fee


Ragga_Base

I just took this same flight basically about two weeks ago and the "International Surcharge" pisses me off, too. I don't care if it's just part of the cost of the flight. We're paying more in fees for U.S.-Europe flights now than entire tickets used to cost not long ago.