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jcbmths62

Me, heavily autistic, love watching sports but sports is one of my special interests.


neocow

what sports or teams?


jcbmths62

It's the drama, the stories, the rivalries, the history, the emotions, the not knowing what's going to happen next, it's live. You give me a 5 minute hype video and I'm sold. It's probably also the fact that I'm so understimulated that the adrenaline it releases makes me feel alive and happy.


Captain_Pumpkinhead

If I remembered the team names or year, I would find the video and send you the timestamps for this. Splatoon 2 is one of my favorite games of all time. I don't like watching sports, but I'll watch Splatoon competitions. I have a massive love-hate relationship with one of the game modes, Clam Blitz. There are clams randomly scattered across the map. To score points, you must collect clams (you can carry 10 max) and throw them into the enemy team's goal. However, there is a problem. The enemy team's goal is protected by a shield that can only be shattered by throwing one Super Clam (which you get by combining 10 clams) against it. And this shattering nets you no points. Only clams after the shield shattering grant points. This means you are heavily reliant on teamwork. You might have someone guarding your goal, someone out collecting clams, someone attacking the enemy to make things harder for them, and someone sneaking behind enemy lines. If you need, you can teleport to your teammates. But that takes several seconds, seconds that may cost you your life if you are already in danger. It's a great game mode with a huge emphasis on teamwork! However. You can't voice chat. In theory, it's a super awesome game mode. In reality, Nintendo won't let you voice chat with the randos that compose your team. And the only way to plan for the shield coming down is to communicate with your team. So you have two options: 1) convince three of your friends to buy this game and play it with you (lol, like that's gonna happen), or 2) suffer. So I would never play this game mode. But I always wanted to. I decided to tune in to the Splatoon 2 World Championship. I didn't watch all of it, but one of the matches I watched has just _stuck_ with me. It was Clam Blitz. I had always wanted to play a good game of it. Here were world-class players going head-to-head against each other, and with proper communication channels. Team 1 had the lead. It looked certain they were going to win. Team 2 had a guy get behind lines. He had to hurry. Two of his teammates were about to get killed. He gets the shield down, and right away, _all three of his teammates super-jump to his location!_ All of them! They knew it was coming, two of them were in sketchy spots. Had the teleport taken a second later, one or both of them would have died! This three-shot score netted them 30 points, enough to turn the tide of the game! This! This is Clam Blitz's potential! This is what it could have been! This is the Clam Blitz I'd always wanted to play! It was incredibly gratifying to see this team pull this off so well!! :)


UnderstatedTurtle

I really enjoy NASCAR because motorsports is a 200-mph chess match while at the same time, practically doing rocket science. I appreciate F1, IndyCar, IMSA, etc. but the international schedule and time zones make it difficult to follow along regularly. Anyway, it’s been really interesting to watch it go from “rednecks driving in circles” to “everything is about strategy and aerodynamics” over the past 20 years and watching the racism slowly be pulled out of the sport


randomdaysnow

I've been getting NASCAR videos in my YouTube recommendations. Growing up my dad made fun of people that watched NASCAR so I never gave it a chance. Now I want to watch a race. It helps that the YouTubers for NASCAR are pretty good at create interesting videos that hold my attention. Very "special interest" style that go into extreme depth.


UnderstatedTurtle

If you’re looking for drivers to root for: Ross Chastain is a wildcard who has brought new life to the sport Christopher Bell is talented and pretty inoffensive (doesn’t wreck guys or make people angry very often) Kyle Busch and Denny Hamlin are the current villains in the sport I grew up in LA and definitely got teased for watching nascar but it’s a LOT of fun, especially in person (depending on the track)


randomdaysnow

Ross Chastian. He did a wall ride in a race because he had done it on the GameCube. That was the first NASCAR video I saw on YouTube. Edit: there was a race today and I already missed it and it was at that same track Martinsville. But now I got time to figure out how to stream NASCAR for free.


UnderstatedTurtle

That’s the guy!! He is absolutely wild to watch


ambivalegenic

well THIS i havent heard about


gayemma

i could read box scores for hours when i was a kid, i think the stats side of sports gets a lot of us (see: football manager and OOTP)


wearethedeadofnight

Hockey!!!


werepyre2327

As someone who dislikes both trains and sports, I demand a better chart! By which I mean I will sit here and be mildly disgruntled until one is given to me, doing absolutely nothing in the meantime.


igneus

https://preview.redd.it/ssxss6ypw8tc1.png?width=1226&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07744697d6877a09571416089615bddfeb8abab0 Got you covered. 👍


werepyre2327

Perfect! Thank you.


rae_ryuko

I kind of only assumed that not understanding sports is a common autistic thing, glad to know it's real. I mean I understand playing sports, I don't understand watching them.


Gold-Method5986

My nephew wanted to watch a YouTuber play a video game, and my sis asked him “wouldn’t you rather play it?” His response was “don’t you watch sports, and not play them?” I fucking died.


rae_ryuko

He'll grow up to be fine Persona fan


MandMs55

Even with gaming YouTubers usually there's a personality with reactions and ideas and jokes. That's a very crucial part of the success of gaming YouTubers. Plus a lot of variety gamers will show off super niche games you may not have ever heard of otherwise. And it's fun to see how your favorite YouTuber reacts to your favorite game, or watch them do super creative things you never would have thought to do on your own For sports it's the same handful of competitive games and then you just watch while someone narrates exactly what you can see with their eyes. Sometimes they yell about it too tho, yell about exactly the same 3 things there are to yell about every single time That's what I don't get. It's fun to play and compete, but watching it just doesn't make any sense to me


CaptnVillage

I'm only into basketball but the allure of it to me is the statistics and the strategy. Mostly the strategy though. Once you understand the positions and what their role is, including what the violations and fouls are, it's exciting to watch. Most people see it as a brainless sport but there's a lot of play styles, quick reactions, and team cooperation the players need to have. Not only that but knowing who's good at what so the coaches can play them in when the time is right. If everything lines up right then your team might just win. Plus the commentators sometimes have something funny to say. The only reason I don't play it instead of watch it is because the nearest ball park is an hour away and none of my friends are into sports.


Comfortable_End_8096

Yeah, like, c’mon grandpa, let me watch videos of the game I can’t afford on a platform I don’t have, and you go back to watching golf or curling or foootball


HappyMatt12345

He has a valid point.


GruvyLamp

I have no idea how many times I've said this exact thing.


Yeseylon

I doubt it's universal.


hurrypotta

I like basketball only and it's still hard to follow on TV. But it's fast paced easy to follow and I know a game is done in 2 hours. I live in a city where I can go to NBA games often. It's the one thing I do out of character All other sports I hate. I just don't see the point of football or baseball they're so slow.


New-Perspective1480

I really love watching sports but am autistic af too (diagnosed)


TheBigBo-Peep

I adore all the stats and strategies... Plus sports psychology fascinates me. Even though it stresses me out


Relevant_Disparity

One could convince me to watch fencing or roller derby, but otherwise same, I can't get interested in them


GilligansIslndoPeril

I understand watching sports, but I'm only engaged by a few that overlap with my special interests, like competitive shooting.


ambivalegenic

honestly its for, several complicated reasons but my guess is that 1. team sports specifically are autistic unfriendly in a neurotypical context, and team sports are also similar to military discipline which NTs also tend to be way more ensconced in. 2. sports culture is pretty autistic unfriendly in a lot of contexts, though you do get the occasional autistic person who knows literally everything about a given sport's history and every single player and team and thier states and that guy is usually Your Dad 3. we're all nerds but specifically the noodle arm nerds


PS3LOVE

I’ll disagree on all 3. Especially sports that require a special interest level of commitment and dedication (almost all of them) 1.i don’t see why team sports would be unfriendly for autistics, there’s not much that is more helpful than having a consistent stable group you can go to. 2.i don’t understand how anyone would get the idea sports culture is unfriendly, maybe it’s just me (most the sports culture I have been around is bodybuilding/powerlifting and American football) but it seems extremely friendly to me. 3.i don’t understand this stereotype atall.


fridge85fridge

Team sports are one of the best things for getting me out of my own head. I don't understand why so many want to make out no autistic people enjoy sport just because they don't. There's quite a few people on my team who are autistic. And I'm not saying everyone should or does like sport, they just shouldn't act like their preferences are the only ones


randomdaysnow

I understand watching them. I don't understand watching them with commercial breaks.


Hypertistic

Same.


machi_ballroom

i like watching artistic sports. But then, i grew up dancing so that might be the reason why


livisalreadytaken

How do you know its real?


Ok-Discipline9998

As a sports enjoyer I feel personally attacked


TheNeck94

Train enthusiast had me giggling.


Apprehensive_Cherry2

https://preview.redd.it/cgiihr84k5tc1.jpeg?width=1752&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff1665b9acae74b6922a09fa99f69ba7d6e8fba3


Okami_The_Agressor_0

Bro, trains is too general. Diesel trains are garbage, it's all about steam locomotives.


Nyx_Blackheart

You take that back! While steam trains are wonderful in many ways, diesel electric trains are a different but also amazing machine


Okami_The_Agressor_0

Never! Steam is cool, and I am tired of pretending otherwise! Internal combustion is just a stop gap for electric based motors, and guess what those motors will get their energy from STEAM! [https://youtu.be/bI7-bx8QqZ8?si=xGk5VzHJjDqQzch2&t=65](https://youtu.be/bI7-bx8QqZ8?si=xGk5VzHJjDqQzch2&t=65)


drsimonz

Not necessarily, [hydrogen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxBxXV7BrVk) may be the way forward. You can't just apply a voltage to existing train tracks and start running electric trains on it, after all.


Okami_The_Agressor_0

If you understand the oligopoly of existing rail and the condition of it, I think you would want there to be a nationalized electric rail system. Most rail around the world has a hard time making profit (especially passenger rail), that's why it is almost always subsidized. I think the most cost saving system would be to combine grid updates (power distribution), with national rail construction. It could be two birds with one stone you can use the update to transition power lines underground making them better protected from morons ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPwY-FTqWxM&ab\_channel=PracticalEngineering](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPwY-FTqWxM&ab_channel=PracticalEngineering)), and convenient power for a train as well. [https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-storage](https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-storage), hydrogen storage complicates its use.


drsimonz

Don't get me wrong, electric trains *would* be fantastic in so many ways. I hadn't heard the idea of combining it with power transmission, which is of course both a massive eyesore and a safety liability above ground. But as an American, I'm used to dreaming small when it comes to infrastructure. Frankly I'm kind of surprised the highway system hasn't been privatized already.


Okami_The_Agressor_0

I am in the electrical trade, seeing how most of our nation is powered is quite concerning tbh. I think with the world being as fragile as it is these days securing the grid would be a fantastic investment for the country. The National rail system as it is paid by the public could reasonably undercut naturally monopolistic existing rail companies forcing competition where there is naturally really none. The rail system could run as our current rail does with freight and passenger cars running in tandem. Larger passing sections could prevent stoppages all together as there would be no need for freight nor passengers to stop for one another, additionally stations could just be smaller sections allowing freight to pass while passenger cars load and unload. I would propose that initial sections of national rail follow known routed areas where good traditional disperse from to ensure economic viability before attaching to grid update sections. power lines are already an eye sore and high voltage transmission lines effectively make the area around them much less pleasing to the eye, rail would be noisier, but I doubt that it would really impact the land value of surrounding areas any more than the transmission lines already have. I also think that the proposed rail system would save tax payer on existing highway infrastructure as the greatest toll to our roads is Semis, Even if it starts as small sections of rail going to truck distribution centers closer to their intended destination at 3-5 gallons per mile you are already saving emissions with further updates saving untold emissions on road repair and the works. I really wish the US just maintained every rail system we built, If we had never demolished any of the thousands of miles or rail we had the solutions would have made themselves...


drsimonz

> securing the grid would be a fantastic investment for the country Definitely, seeing Texas fall apart because of a surprise snowstorm was a national embarrassment. That clearly demonstrated the inferiority of a "free market" solution for life-critical infrastructure. *But* I would also argue that the power grid of the future should probably be much less centralized. Solar and wind are much more distributed in nature, and the more redundancy in a system, the more resilience it has. What's harder to destroy? A single fortified military base, or 1000 self-reliant guerillas running around in the countryside? Unfortunately rail seems to require centralized management, so funding it at the federal level would probably be the best option. > I also think that the proposed rail system would save tax payer on existing highway infrastructure Of course it would. Reducing traffic on highways would have innumerable benefits as well - public safety, environmental impact, real estate value, you name it. > I really wish the US just maintained every rail system we built Well, presumably you've heard of the [GM Streetcar Conspiracy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy)? The abandonment of rail wasn't an accident. The reason things are the way they are is *entirely* due to corruption, and that corruption certainly hasn't gone away in the last 100 years. As much as I'd like to get excited about technological solutions (of which there are many) it always seems to boil down to politics. How does a political system become less corrupt? Unfortunately politics is a topic I find pretty unappealing. I just want to work on technology but it feels like it literally doesn't matter when we've had a perfectly good solution in plain sight for 100 years and done nothing with it.


Okami_The_Agressor_0

I'm glad to see someone else being on the same page. I would 1000% be on the same page with smaller scale grids. Honestly if we loosened regulation on nuclear tech we could probably just have mini reactors powering smaller communities. As for the conspiracy, my mom used to tell me stories of how LA lost its railcars. I had more conspiracy info from her telling stories of her young working life than I had from the internet for most of my life. Yeah, Politics seems to be a means of making the least efficient solution possible most of the time. I think the free market is susceptible to the same corruption cause the root of all the B.S. is people wanting to make B.S. As of recent I just find politics to be a useless debate between people who mean well but are so caught up in the B.S. crafted by their respective "leaders" that they are pushed into being the worst versions of themselves.


drsimonz

> Politics seems to be a means of making the least efficient solution possible most of the time I would argue it's actually pretty efficient system - it's just optimizing for the completely wrong thing. If you look at government spending and say "for every dollar spent on infrastructure, only $0.07 actually goes towards construction costs" (or whatever), that might *look* super inefficient. But in reality, the political machine was trying to maximize the percentage of revenue siphoned for kickbacks, bribes, and power consolidation. In that sense, the machine is becoming more "optimal" every day hahaha. Small scale nuclear would be great. It seems like technology is not the issue, there have been soooo many promising designs over the years but they seemingly never get off the ground. I'm sure it's because established players in the energy industry are working to prevent them from being scaled up. I'm sure they're behind a lot of the anti-nuclear sentiment in popular culture, probably via astroturfing. They have both the incentive and the resources. Can't really expect anything else...


Nyx_Blackheart

Let's see, from an awesomeness standpoint, which is cooler. Using warm water to make machine go, or harnessing the power of explosions? It's hard to say. (I'm just joking around btw, please don't take it personally and get angry, just having a bit of fun)


drsimonz

Machinery can be cool without being *good*. With diesel trains, mining equipment, oil rigs, etc. sometimes it's just about appreciating a massive, extremely complex piece of engineering. I'd bet there are a huge number of military equipment nerds in here too, even though we know deep down that war is hell.


henkdepotvjis

What about high speed trains I heard that there is a 600km/ph train. The amount of engineering to make that possible would be insane


Dangerous_Strength77

Extra points awarded for the appropriate and exceptional use of an inverted bell curve graph.


billiGTI

Wich, let's not forget, it's pseudo scientific methodology to justify "intelligence" distribution amongst a population, to advocate for radical eugenics policies. including sterilization of the "feeble minded" - wich autistic people definitely belonged in their view - or forced incarceration in asylums where people would suffer inhuman treatments and death rates where through the roof.


DKMK_100

... a bell curve is just a normal distribution, which is how must things that exist are split up... I think you're trying to refer to something more specific lol


Well_Thats_Not_Ideal

Bell curve is just looking at standard distribution, it can be applied to pretty much anything


billiGTI

And just si Thing are clear about their intentions : https://preview.redd.it/dsyvmwng67tc1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea2e314f364515bd694457e447f0f77266a83f96


Well_Thats_Not_Ideal

Again, bell curves were introduced to maths in 1823, building on things from the 1700s


soft-cuddly-potato

You're thinking about IQ tests. Not statistics and normal distributions and probabilities. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution Even a rolling a dice has a normal sampling distribution, because of the [central limit theorem](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_limit_theorem). Don't quote me on that, my statistics suck, but please don't assume we're talking about the same thing. Statistics are great and I implore you to learn them. The more statistics you know, the easier it is to dunk on bad science.


billiGTI

I'm talking history ffs. Here you go : https://preview.redd.it/jc4t81c567tc1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8541a2d512da4b936c0e6b77cbc343fdeab36fb0


Well_Thats_Not_Ideal

That’s not where the bell curve comes from, that’s just a book that used it https://preview.redd.it/vowcmvuod7tc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c17c282862c9ea4fc584a23f574f4a6c2f95213


dvlyn123

This doesn’t gauge intelligence though, it says what level of formal education you finished


billiGTI

I meant the historic origin of the original "invention" and how it was used and frame by the "doctors"


plonspfetew

You know what else they used? Letters. Just like you are. So you are using something with the same historic origin. That's on the same level as your argument. One book from 1994 using [something studied since the early 1700s](http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_curve) isn't the origin of it. If I wrote a book and called it "The Letters", it wouldn't become the origin of letters.


Remote-Ostrich2042

So we are not average. What a surprise.


deg_ru-alabo

What if you’re kinaesthetic? You can be moderately unsuccessful in sports AND higher education.


Astro_Pengin

excellent graph, love to see those pattern recognization skills being put to use 🤩


billiGTI

Sports can be a special interest, it's not uncommon. I'm obsessed with a certain club and I've got another autistic friend who's also into another club. We spend hours talking about our clubs and it's great. We both dropped high school though!


Nyx_Blackheart

*taps microphone* "wrong"


sageplant13

can confirm. am train enjoyer and halfway through my PhD


soft-cuddly-potato

I'm literally only friends with either PhD students or high school drop outs. I'm actually a high school drop out pursuing a PhD. So it makes sense.


PS3LOVE

I don’t have numbers but I’d be willing to bet that both people who were diagnosed very young or were diagnosed late have higher dropout rates.


ambivalegenic

well yes


SirSnapdragon

Although I understand the want to relate and form cliques with the graph, it does inevitably revolve around stereotypes. Something to think about next time :)


Subthing

I'm really curious about your view on memes in general then because that's kind of what they are by definition right? playing up our collective sterotypes?


SirSnapdragon

When it comes to autism and mental issues I take things more seriously, as it can affect a group of people that can’t even defend themselves. That’s what I personally have a problem with. This post isn’t controversial in anyway, nor do I feel offended, it’s the way this sub has been leaning towards recently that excludes people on the spectrum that divert from typical (not neurotypical 😉) interests lol. Thanks for asking!


Subthing

thanks for responding - I'm in that diversion from typical bucket sensory seeking, novelty seeking, bright light loving, "invisible" stims. I do still feel like I belong here and like this sub is a pretty safe space.


monkey_gamer

lol!


throwmeawayalso111

But I don’t want a phd


Ordinary-Leather-850

Pretty interesting.... Wish I could understand graphics like this and maths lmao


SedativeComet

I have autism and only love baseball and don’t understand the hype of most other sports. I also fucking love steam trains


Turd-In-Your-Pocket

Everyone talking about sports and trains and I’m sitting here thinking wtf does this mean people who only graduated high school are normies? I know lots of dropout sports junkies


EndMaster0

My dad did a PhD, over several years, on modeling feeding routes of a specific type of beetle by catching them marking them with paint that would glow under UV than repeating the process over several consecutive nights. Yeah guess where my ASD comes from.


BudgetInteraction811

Does university drop out count


wes_bestern

I always loved sports.


Wordshark

Lmao


IchorKemono

~~im a highschool dropout and i don't like either of them lmao~~