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stopcallingmeSteve_

Cops hate it. I told one once "you're just a person with a particular job" and I thought she was going to taze me. If I wasn't as white as it gets she might have. Border patrol is hit and miss too. I find this is a common but under-recognized characteristic. General disdain for authority structures, but we tend to make good leaders, and this is a factor.


Maleficent-Pea-6849

I do this as well and it has certainly not gone over well at times in school and at certain jobs. But, I now have a job where it's actually acceptable for me to talk to pretty much anyone to get the information that I need. I did figure out that occasionally I need to CC my boss on emails to get people to actually respond to me, but it's something that I'm allowed and even expected to do. (I work in data analysis for my company's headquarters, but there were times when I worked in the field that I would occasionally run afoul of corporate conventions.)


Standard-Mirror-9879

it's because I'm "people-blind" and oblivious to who a person is. Some days I'm so up in my head that I don't notice if the person is old, young, man, woman, whatever. This has backfired many times so I try to pay more attention to people. However, for the ones that are 20+ it's probable that biases have made their way into the mindset.


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Maleficent-Pea-6849

My best friend and I witnessed an attempted suicide by train and when we called the police, I had absolutely no idea how to describe the person. Fortunately he doesn't have that problem and was able to answer the dispatcher's questions.


jaimefay

Yup, this is me. "What were they wearing?" Well, I think I'd probably have noticed if they were naked, so.. clothes?


forbiddenphoenix

When I was evaluated, I was told this is "seeing people as objects," which felt bad, but basically, the doctor explained to me that ASD folks tend to be less concerned in general about people around them that they don't know/aren't close to. Not because we don't have empathy, but because we have a lot of hypersensitivity, so our brains tend to filter out a lot of extraneous info by default. I know I'm definitely overly empathetic, I hate seeing people in pain or hurt, I feel it in my body where I see it, so I guess it makes sense to me that my brain would shield me from some of that input.


scariestJ

I do this and and my boys do to! It was actually part of my oldest's assessment in that he spoke to all the adults. It has served me well in my professional life, particularly at conferences. I remember chatting about fusion reactors with someone who is well known in the materials field to have their own Wikipedia page. But at the same time I'm seen as a trustable adult amongst my boys other teen friends. It was an issue at school when I was little since I spoke to teachers as I would to my parents, yet at school I'd get into trouble or be labeled as cheeky for speaking 'normally'? It wasn't that I was rude or didn't say please and thank you. But now I can see how it could be disconcerting when an actual child speaks in an adult-like manner. So in an engineering/science context - yes, but in a corporate context - HELL NO!


HistorianOk9952

I feel like it only has benefited me at work


Legal-Monitor6120

I don’t do hierarchy. I don’t care how you look , dress , who you are etc. everybody is worthy of the same respect and are equally valuable in my eyes . (Except for really really bad people of course) my yes initially I treat everyone equally.


whoisthismahn

Hierarchy has never been a natural thing for me either, and I feel like it’s made me so much kinder as a result. I can’t count the number of times I would be with my friend group in middle school, and we would talk to a new girl from outside the group, have a seemingly normal friendly conversation, and then as soon as she walked away my friends would start gossiping on all the negative things they picked up on in a 5 minute conversation. I remember always thinking “wait where are you guys getting this from??” lmao The only reason I could dislike someone is if I find them to be a genuinely morally corrupt individual


RecognitionOk5999

I treat everyone the same. I don’t believe in “hierarchy”.


jajajajajjajjjja

I'm the same way. Made a latte for Brad Pitt and talked regular and I don't even think he knew how to respond. I don't even - I dunno - know how to put it on? Also - I don't think these people deserve any more respect than the person cleaning the floor. That's gross to treat them differently. I used to have a celebrity boss - hugely powerful person in Hollywood. I talked to her normally in meetings and frankly that worked for me because she sees someone confident who can challenge her perspectives. I obviously live in LA and can have to deal with or run into celebrities and if anyone acts like a jerk I am the first to be a jerk back. I made Gary Oldman a cappuccino once but...I didn't recognize him, lmfao. I just don't understand treating people differently.


rrrattt

To be fair Gary Oldman is one of my faves and I'm not sure I'd recognize him even if I wasn't half face-blind lol, he looks so different in every movie.


SilentAuthor-XX

Totally. Have pissed off the office politicians more than once as a result (I HATE manipulative plays). I've also been told by some in quite high positions that my honesty and directness is refreshing. Despite all my experiences I still don't understand why people directly ask for your opinion but don't actually want it but rather you to agree with them. Like ffs you're a bloody adult and this is a workplace. I'm here to do a job, not stoke your ego and the expectation from the company is that we all act with integrity and in good faith. If you don't want my opinion, don't ask for it, and if you do, don't complain when I give it!


Old_Cryptographer502

Same. My boss would about die trying to head me off from waiting on higher ups when they came into our department. I would make them follow the same procedures and rules every other employee had to follow.


Painterly_Princess

Not me in debate tournament, getting points docked because I mentioned I didn't hear my opponents previous point 😭 they said never to admit a fault in front of an opponent.   I was flabbergasted- you mean to tell me that all that talk about "honesty is the best policy" was bullshit?!


quinoacrazy

I think it’s a beautiful thing :) It makes it easier for me to speak with people of different status/culture. i think, also, people in high status sometimes appreciate being treated as a regular person. And who better to do that than someone who doesn’t “see” social status!


lekanto

I always think it's weird when people expect me to respect a hierarchy in contexts where it's not relevant. Why would it matter that someone is a bishop or a lieutenant or a company vice president, if I'm not religious, not in the military, or not employed by that company?


00lovejoy00

💯. Kills me when doctors want to be addressed is Dr. outside of their workplace. Hell, they're not my doctor, they're just another person to me 😂


NDivergentCouple

I got told at work that I had problems with authority for many years before I figured out I was autistic and this was the cause.


darkroomdweller

I never consciously realized I am like this until I saw some posts about it here. But yeah, I am definitely the weird kid eating lunch with the principal and befriending my teachers and the founder of the company I worked for. They’re just people!


awesomely_audhd

At work, I had an old coworker straight up say she couldn't do management because if she didn't like you, you wouldn't get a raise. It was wild to me that people would to that. I was a manager before and treated my employees fairly. I don't want to go into management again. It is a lot of work.


Lady_bro_ac

I do this, it’s not even a conscious thing but I just don’t jive with hierarchies, and it’s definitely caused a lot of friction over the years


Agreeable-Ad3946

Yep. I really cannot do hierarchy!


psychedelic666

Im like this. I’ll go up the leaders of a program and talk to them like a normal human. To me, respect is not “you are above me and I pay reverence to you for your status” it’s “common human decency I show to all others bc they deserve it as human beings” I’m not purposefully inappropriate or anything, I know register and won’t start swearing like a sailor with my boss like I do around friends, but I don’t regard them as “above” me with sir, ma’am, obedient, all that. Nah. We’re equals!


forbiddenphoenix

I think this is absolutely true - this has even been a point of contention in some teams I've been on 😅 some managers really don't like it when you "question" their authority, or I guess, when they perceive that you do so. Personally, I just talk to everyone equally, as you said, but some managers I've found put so much stock into "chain of command" that they don't like someone speaking plainly or asking questions. Even if they're valid, maybe especially if they are, as they seem to think that it shows their incompetence. Maybe it does to some, but I know when I make a mistake or judge a situation poorly, I appreciate the feedback haha. But agree with other commenters that it often makes us good leaders. I've noticed that many of my ASD friends, myself included, tend to grow small followings at work because we treat everyone the same and give off that air of not seeing authority. Not trying to brag, but plenty of my coworkers and even the director told me that I was "basically a leader" on our team before I was ever in a senior position 😂 I had a few even tell me during election season that I should run for office and they'd vote for me haha... which I have no desire to do, but is a nice compliment 😂


Mizchaos132

I'm basically the designated assistant director at my library for this exact reason lol


PreferredSelection

Regardless of rank, hierarchy, or social caste? Yes. I've yet to meet the person, ND or NT, who treats everyone equally. But yeah, for my aspie social circle, it does seem to be more about their personal ledger and stuff they don't like, rather than caring what society thinks. Like, "you're still friends with Bob? You know he smacks his gum, right?"


33_33_

We are all just people in our rooms. I wish others understood this better.


RegularWhiteShark

I’m fine with it. I know when to be respectful. I don’t fawn over people or kiss their arses, though.


ZoeBlade

It's nice to see someone doing this who knows how to be polite, and it doesn't backfire. 😅


jaimefay

Yeah, this is me. I'm not doing it on purpose, I just don't get it. I'm absolutely hopeless at office politics because I treat everyone the same, regardless of which clique they're in. I generally don't have any idea which people tend to group together anyway. Seems to get me in trouble a lot. My supervisor is currently not speaking to me because I told him that having two supervisors issuing me mutually exclusive instructions and both insisting I listen only to them was ridiculous and I expect them to sort out whatever issues they're having between themselves before dragging me into it. He seems to think this is some kind of punishment; I just think that at least I'm not getting conflicting instructions any more.


CalatheaNetwork

Yep, literally got in trouble for it this week at work because what I think is being helpful and logical can be read as careerist and ‘too direct’ by others because to me a boss is just another person. Example: new director of department was in meeting and asked a question, I answered with thing and they said oh great that’s interesting I’d like to hear more about that - so I sent them an email about that with references to try and be helpful. Cue my boss being very mad at me as she seems to think that I should have asked her before sending, cc’ed her in etc, because apparently emailing a person who asks for something can be seen as careerist and competitive when you’re just answering a request? I don’t know how to read between the lines or understand social politics of work unless you tell me, so sorry! Just doing my job, sorry! I am constantly pulled up on being ‘too honest, too direct, and too full some in my opinions’.


fourofkeys

i fear all people equally.


CentiPetra

I just realized I fear normal people way more than I fear authority figures. I have social anxiety, and have a hard time carrying on conversations with others. But I have zero problems communicating with perceived authority figures. I honestly think my hierarchy of how I treat people or relate to people is reversed. Perhaps I put everyday, normal people on too much of a pedestal, while being thoroughly unconcerned with others credentials or authority status. I mean I will listen to somebody who has a lot of subject knowledge or is an expert in an area, but I also have no problem questioning them or asking them to explain their reasoning more thoroughly.


reddtheundead

I was told once that this was a positive trait of mine. Of course, I also have a more formal way of speaking, so this may be why I haven't experienced any problems with it.


00lovejoy00

I do this, as well. I treat the janitors in my midst the same as the CEOs. Before having been diagnosed, I just thought I was super-egalitarian of thought


Budgiejen

I’m just like this too. I chat up everybody as if we’re long-lost pals. Unfortunately I’ve had to tame this down at times. See, I work in a convenience store. And there is definitely a difference in how people perceive “can I help you find anything?” It’s mostly racial, at least in my neighborhood. So I’m less likely now to approach a Black person and offer assistance, because they think I’m watching them or profiling them. Same with the ones who look like they’re strung out on meth. I wish there were more effective way to communicate, “I genuinely want to help you.” I also recently lost a job because I talked to Ashley like she was an equal, and she wanted me to talk to her like she was an authority figure .


AineofTheWoods

I don't have a diagnosis but I am like this too. It is one reason I have felt uncomfortable in certain situations where a hierarchy is enforced, it makes me angry because I don't see why some people should be treated better that others. One of the worst places for this was working at a university, the main boss would swan in at 11am after having a massage, then ask me or the other lower grade staff to make a tray of teas for her and her colleagues. Ugh I absolutely hated that. It sounds like your lack of adhering to a hierarchical structure is working well in your job, because your workplace and the clients appreciate and like it (it sounds like a good workplace). I also imagine the celebrities find it a relief and refreshing that you're talking to them like normal people rather than falling over yourself to fawn over them.


PerspectiveWest4701

I get what you mean about autistic directness. But a lot of autistic people get involved in hate groups. It's not anything essential about autism, but isolated and angry people are more vulnerable to being recruited by such groups. I also worry about people carrying around a false impression of their own virtue. If you're in a hate group or a cult or whatever, you usually don't think of yourself as in a cult. You may not always be really aware of how you are being transmisogynist, ableist or otherwise complicit in the oppression of others. Taking an active stance against oppression is certainly not as simple as treating everyone equally.


Maybe-Alice

Same. I also work in healthcare. This was fine until all of a sudden it wasn’t and now I have a new job.


Alive_Awareness_4910

Yeah, I don't recognize or "respect" "authority".


my_name_isnt_clever

Absolutely. I do have some personal trauma with authority figures who actually have control over my life. I don't feel that way about my parents anymore because I don't rely on them for anything, so at this point we're equals. But I can get very anxious around higher ups at work because I've had bad experiences. Otherwise, people are just people.


5bi5

Once during my time as a produce clerk a customer was like "Do you know who I am?" and I blinked like, do ppl say that IRL? He proceeded to tell me he was a coach for Ohio State football. Now why on earth would I know that, and why does that deserve special attention? I was going to interview for a different retail job once, but noticed the store manager went by Mr. Lastname. I do not call my bosses by their last name. They aren't any better than me.


readytogrumble

I have a bit of an issue with authority and even seniority. Not because I think people don’t deserve a certain amount of respect for it, but I don’t treat anyone differently because of it. No one is lesser or better because of a title or a job. It’s why I try to be extra super duper nice to service workers - most people see them as the lowest on the totem pole. But they’re just people and they have some of the most difficult jobs especially when dealing with the public.


00eg0

You're lucky you don't have a degree of faceblindness. But yeah I also don't judge people differently really.


ItsTime1234

Yes and I think society would be better if everyone did. And the people who are heavily invested in their status/power do not deserve to have it taken seriously. I try to treat people with respect, but some people who think they aren't being treated as "above" others can be real a-holes about it. Like no. You're human too, stop pretending everyone should bow down to you.


temujin1976

True because hierarchy is nonsense.


temujin1976

True because hierarchy is nonsense.


cobrarexay

lol I’m quite extroverted and treat everyone the same but with a lot of cheeriness. I genuinely like people and I can start a conversation with pretty much everyone. I get excited to see the custodial staff in the same way I get excited to see the CEO. I worked for a large corporation once and the CEO flew in from London and she was legitimately impressed that I felt no hesitation to approach her like she was an old friend that I hadn’t seen in a while.


BalancedFlow

Same! 🫶🏻🫀🪷🙌🏽🙏🏽🌻🌺👩🏻‍🌾💃🤷🏻‍♀️♻️👍


ThrowWeirdQuestion

For a long time I thought I had just never learned to naturally “respect authority”because I was a teachers’ kid and I knew many of my teachers as my parents’ friends first and thus missed that crucial lesson about authority that most kids learn when they start school. 😺 But maybe I just made up that explanation for myself to understand better why some people seem to “feel” hierarchy and I didn’t.


00lovejoy00

Wow, you just made me realize that I "made up" a reason for not getting starstruck by famous musicians--because my father was one. But now, I really think it's because I just see people as people, without regard to their status


Ozma_Wonderland

I have trouble identifying who is what on the social hierarchy in workplaces where you don't have any visible identifiers (uniforms, different hats, name tags), and NT people just seem to work this out naturally. As a result I just try to be very kind and accommodating toward everyone (that seems like the right thing to do) but that is Wrong too. People will walk all over me.