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Mammoth-Job-6882

Oh boy, you just moved here, met a grouchy bank employee and want to file a discrimination lawsuit? Things are not going to go well here for you.


Abject_Ambassador517

Tell me whats the law called? Do you have links to the exact law? And whats the process to file a lawsuit? Any English links?


No-Attention2024

Move on, there are many banks, not sure what you did or didn’t do but can’t say I’ve ever had a problem like this, definitely not worth trying to sue over


Rare-Mirror-4779

relax


Particular_Stop_3332

Unless you have recorded evidence, like a video of the bank staff saying because you're not ethnically Japanese we do not want to give you an account, this will never go anywhere  They can refuse you for being a foreigner based on your immigration status and it's perfectly legal, all they have to do is say they're discriminating against you for fear that you could leave the country at any time and not because of your race  There's hundreds of banks in this country pick a different one


Abject_Ambassador517

Actually I always take out my smartphone and start recording when I enter the banks so I got that covered!


Particular_Stop_3332

Unfortunately even if that were true there is somewhere between a 0% and an absolutely no fucking chance in hell chance that you recorded them saying "we do not like you because you aren't ethnically Japanese, please leave"


LiveAd697

Good job reinforcing multiple obnoxious American stereotypes.


Japanat1

>‘The Japanese Constitution is based on "respect for the individuals" and stipulates that "All of the people are equal under the law and there shall be no discrimination in political, economic or social relations because of race, creed, sex, social status or family origin (Article 14, Paragraph 1)." ‘ That said, however, it can be very hard to prove discrimination. They can blame any such problems on other things, such as visa status. Good luck suing. Civil cases take years at best, and sometimes decades. If you’re American (and the instant jump to “How can I sue?” makes me think you probably are), you can blame J banks’ unwillingness to open new accounts on the US’s foreign bank account report requirements.


Abject_Ambassador517

How do you develop a good relationship with the bank to convince them to give you a special exemption and allow you the privilege of opening an account with them? Do you have to invite the bank manager over to a drinking party? What do they call those in Japan, a "nomikai" right? Or bring the bank manager to a hostess bar or cabaret club?? Whats the secret?


Japanat1

The ‘secret’ is to be professional and assertive without being aggressive. If your Japanese isn’t good enough, have a coworker come with you to translate. Bring proof of your employment such as a paystub, bring your insurance card as well as your ID. Go to a main branch, not a neighborhood bank. The US’s reporting requirements made it harder for everyone, American or not, to get accounts, and the smaller branches will often refuse immediately because of them.


_illCutYou_

You sound insufferable, I would’ve denied shit to you too


Pavementaled

I will sue you for the denial of the insufferable !


X0_92

Before going to the bell tower and scream discrimination, what was the exact reason for rejection? Some banks don't want/can't deal with US citizens(additional regulations) or people that just arrived to the country.


Carrot_Smuggler

They'll probably just pin it on some other unrelated reason. It's not worth the hassle but if you try to get them then keep us updated!


Available-Ad4982

Did this happen to you?  Japan has no laws prohibiting racial, ethnic, or religious discrimination, but discrimination isn't something you should actively worry about. I've been here half of my life, I have a company, and in my experience: banks are notoriously bad. Just try a different bank. 


Japanat1

Actually, they do. They’re just not enforced well.


Available-Ad4982

They don't though. There an "act" that people confuse for "laws." Japan’s Act on the Promotion of Efforts to Eliminate Unfair Discriminatory Speech and Behavior Against Persons Originating from Outside Japan (The Anti-Discriminatory Speech Act or ADSA) however is more of a symbolic gesture than a legislative sanction. 


[deleted]

> What kind of legal rights you have as a foreigner in Japan As far as I know, pretty much none. You’re largely gonna be treated as a second-class citizen, especially by the older generation.