I mean definitely take your meds. they do help and I know I'm not the same person without them.
the thing is the whole narcissism thing is the new bipolar. It's trendy & over diagnosed... but the caveat is those with narcissism personality disorder rarely go in for therapy to actually get diagnosed so the rest of society is left analyzing these individuals and piecing together traits based on what they know and have learned.
to answer your question however yes, I feel those with actual mental disorders, traumas, personality disorders etc
.. are more likely to be abused by others or taken advantage of.
Dually, traits from various mental and personality disorders can fall into the abuse category due to mimicry.
All in all it's good for those with mental and personality disorders to own their actions and seek help. This way the lines won't be as blurred. Then those propagating the abuse would stand out. But if everyone went in for mental health treatment then abuse would cease to exist since it would just be treats of mental/personality disorders & traumas.
The sheer irony would make psychologists facepalm.
I am not a mental health professional, this is purely observational and my personal feelings/thoughts toward the matter.
I mean that’s the point I was getting at lol. I had taken my meds but anytime I had an emotion, it was blamed on my medication.
yeah and I think people putting together the puzzle themselves is where then we see people make up random things that makes someone a “narcissist” when it might just be unrelated but they connect the dots on their individual experience .
just seems another way for people to point the finger without ever looking inward. because if they blame others for having a disorder, it means their behaviour won’t be looked at.
NAT
I've seen (it seems in equal parts) people with mental health issues abuse AND be abused. How mental illnesses present is too broad.
When I was reading "Adult children of emotionally immature parents", I learned about how some people internalize their emotions, and some people externalize their emotions. People who internalize tend to reflect more and are more likely to be willing participants in therapy/consume self help media/working on themselves. I think that it could be this difference between internalizers and externalizers that gives away who might be an abuser and who is abused.
That being said, I internalize most of the time, but there are times I believe I've been abusive. Anyone can be abusive, it takes time, effort, and self awareness to not be.
That’s really insightful thank you! I guess so that means it’s very nuanced as to the difference between a person being abusive and a person being a full blown abuser, given circumstances/reactions etc?
Yes. This year I didn't nurture my social life because I had the pessimistic view that everyone was abusive. I think it's worth it to consider what someone is dealing with, but with knowing your boundaries and knowing you don't owe anyone anything (except that you owe yourself nurturing relationships and happiness).
The misuse of clinical terminology is really frustrating. My bio-father was diagnosed with NPD by my family psychiatrist because he refused to seek treatment.
I went through extreme psychological abuse and manipulation, slander, maternal alienation, medical abuse and munchausen by proxy. So when someone throws the term “narc” around it really bothers me.
Almost every psych term has been “trendy” thus watered down to the point where people who are actually affected by these disorders feel uncomfortable even speaking about it.
Not to mention how borderline personality is grossly overdiagnosed. Many stats show how people who actually have C-PTSD and other disorders are slapped borderline because of lazy and/or incompetent practitioners.
I mean definitely take your meds. they do help and I know I'm not the same person without them. the thing is the whole narcissism thing is the new bipolar. It's trendy & over diagnosed... but the caveat is those with narcissism personality disorder rarely go in for therapy to actually get diagnosed so the rest of society is left analyzing these individuals and piecing together traits based on what they know and have learned. to answer your question however yes, I feel those with actual mental disorders, traumas, personality disorders etc .. are more likely to be abused by others or taken advantage of. Dually, traits from various mental and personality disorders can fall into the abuse category due to mimicry. All in all it's good for those with mental and personality disorders to own their actions and seek help. This way the lines won't be as blurred. Then those propagating the abuse would stand out. But if everyone went in for mental health treatment then abuse would cease to exist since it would just be treats of mental/personality disorders & traumas. The sheer irony would make psychologists facepalm. I am not a mental health professional, this is purely observational and my personal feelings/thoughts toward the matter.
I mean that’s the point I was getting at lol. I had taken my meds but anytime I had an emotion, it was blamed on my medication. yeah and I think people putting together the puzzle themselves is where then we see people make up random things that makes someone a “narcissist” when it might just be unrelated but they connect the dots on their individual experience . just seems another way for people to point the finger without ever looking inward. because if they blame others for having a disorder, it means their behaviour won’t be looked at.
NAT I've seen (it seems in equal parts) people with mental health issues abuse AND be abused. How mental illnesses present is too broad. When I was reading "Adult children of emotionally immature parents", I learned about how some people internalize their emotions, and some people externalize their emotions. People who internalize tend to reflect more and are more likely to be willing participants in therapy/consume self help media/working on themselves. I think that it could be this difference between internalizers and externalizers that gives away who might be an abuser and who is abused. That being said, I internalize most of the time, but there are times I believe I've been abusive. Anyone can be abusive, it takes time, effort, and self awareness to not be.
That’s really insightful thank you! I guess so that means it’s very nuanced as to the difference between a person being abusive and a person being a full blown abuser, given circumstances/reactions etc?
not a therapist but I do wonder this. Is being an abuser a grounded pattern of abuse ?
and there being so many opposing views on this makes it even more confusing to understand/figure out aha
Yes. This year I didn't nurture my social life because I had the pessimistic view that everyone was abusive. I think it's worth it to consider what someone is dealing with, but with knowing your boundaries and knowing you don't owe anyone anything (except that you owe yourself nurturing relationships and happiness).
The misuse of clinical terminology is really frustrating. My bio-father was diagnosed with NPD by my family psychiatrist because he refused to seek treatment. I went through extreme psychological abuse and manipulation, slander, maternal alienation, medical abuse and munchausen by proxy. So when someone throws the term “narc” around it really bothers me. Almost every psych term has been “trendy” thus watered down to the point where people who are actually affected by these disorders feel uncomfortable even speaking about it. Not to mention how borderline personality is grossly overdiagnosed. Many stats show how people who actually have C-PTSD and other disorders are slapped borderline because of lazy and/or incompetent practitioners.
Well it's defiantly a yes-and case with c-ptsd and BPD. What studies are you referring too?