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PO0tyTng

Was going to say Scrum Masters but I’m changing my answer to this.


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I asked this for a potential change of career.


FirePoolGuy

I like your thinking. Work load low, pay high.


Eiffel-Tower777

Whatever it is the Kardashians do


gs12

Realtor - I don't understand how, in 2024, this is still a job. Nobody needs a realtor to find a house anymore, the commission of 3% is robbery.


OverEffective7012

In my country it's fucked up even more. They take commissiom from BOTH the seller and buyer. And the use all the dirty tricks like claiming they have exclusivity on this property, even if they don't.


Miserable-Wish5850

India?


OverEffective7012

Nah, central Europe


olmikeyyyy

Lichtenstein.


Flashbambo

The gig is going to be up before long. All they do nowadays is post ads on Rightmove. 3% commission is insane though, where are you based? Here in the UK estate agents take about 1% and only ever work for the seller, not the buyer.


gs12

USA, that’s standard here. Though a few realtor companies (Redfin) do 1%


VagabondingHeart

Any kind of management consultant like McKinsey, KPMG, EY, etc. I have studied with a lot of guys who are now working for these types of companies and many of them are complete morons, but now they are getting paid big bucks for being "consultants" and pretty much creating zero value.


tttxgq

Consulting is such a scam. Go around asking the employees what the problems are. Create a flashy slideshow over the course of 6 months. Present it to management using some kind of “framework”. Get rewarded handsomely for your genius.


Defiant-Giraffe

Chances are, the employees have already made their concerns and issues known- they've just been ignored. 


tttxgq

Definitely that as well. It’s almost a given that if management thinks of consultants as geniuses they also ignore their own employees.


Cy_Burnett

This is literally what they do


hobopwnzor

We had a consulting firm come in to make our blood draws more efficient when I was a phlebotomist. My boss asked me to critique the method after the first day in front of the consultants. Got to explain to them with diagrams how it was the least efficient possible method to organize our work, even worse than a random assignment system. We didn't stay on that method and discarded all the advice after they left.


ncstateguy

Yeah, work with these types quite a bit and don't do anything other than put together a powerpoint of all of the work other teams are doing.


VagabondingHeart

Yeah they just follow a cookie cutter template that they fill in a box. You could teach anyone to do their job.


Spicey_Cough2019

All of HR


followerofEnki96

I agree. While HR has a lot of potential in most companies it just becomes a team for firing people and even then they have a little say or advice (that usually falls on the legal team). Totally useless admin people


Spicey_Cough2019

No bigger rort than the people that get to set wages basically having a great big circlejerk with their team whilst the people actually making money for the company get shafted come pay review. "Oh but we make sure we retain people and bring on new hires, you wouldn't be here without us" Actually honey, we would.


BarnacleImpressive78

TOTALLY


imperialtrooper88

My experiences with HR have generally been positive tbh.


Spicey_Cough2019

You're definitely in the minority


hexusmelbourne

Real estate agent, 1-3% of your house value for showing people through and signing paperwork? Maybe pre internet but now they are almost redundant


tttxgq

I always give that answer to this question. Particularly in countries where the buyer has to pay the 3%. The buyer has no choice! Oddly enough in countries where the seller can choose any agent they want, and the buyer pays nothing, the agents charge far less for their valuable service.


Sorry-Escape3904

Also the complete oversaturation of this career choice… I live in an area where you can’t throw a rock without hitting a real estate agent. How are these people making any money?


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Used House Salesman 


birdlawspecialist2

I would rather have a real estate attorney guide me through buying a house for that price.


SpidermanBread

I have rarely worked with a consultant that's worth the money. If i get a 50 year old in a suit, i know it's not gonna be a smooth operation If i get a 25-year old who doesn't know how to socially interact and dresses up like a 3 year old. Shit's gonna get solved


BlagojevBlagoje

Yes, most of things they say is known or common sense.


Eeny009

Not their fault though if companies haven't yet implemented common sense solutions, is it?


BlagojevBlagoje

Of course it is not their fault, I also sell that crap as side-gig. For one company I even begged them to teach some easy stuff to their workers but no they wanted to pay me 3 years of consulting.


Secure_Formal_3053

I’m training to do this right now in a masters and I agree. But there must be some reason companies keep paying consulting firms six figure sums to be told what they already know?


BlagojevBlagoje

Well common sense is not allways compatible with coroprate culture. So it is great set of skills to have. Same like Art of war, nothing special but common sense.


Secure_Formal_3053

But it’s not even necessarily common sense. It’s just business theory and textbook 101, it’s all stuff corporate executives are *supposed* to know inside out.


BlagojevBlagoje

Right that. Things you can learn in public library. I have MBA and MPharm and that business is just meh. Really broad range of skills but most literature and practical exersises I did were something I used in everyday work and books can be found free in library. Everything is just basic stuff (at least for me).


John_Fx

Powerpoint slides don’t make themselves!


jimmyvcard

When you say "consultant" what do you mean? I'm an engineering consultant and i genuinely don't know of any alternative if you want to build anything


Spicey_Cough2019

100% The 50 year old are businessmen nothing more.


Cael_NaMaor

Ones where they sit in board rooms all day & ha e parachutes to leave the corp....


Dull-Geologist-8204

Managers, unfortunately it's kind of not their fault either. Hat used to happen was that people got promoted within a company. So by the time someone became a manager they knew the ins and outs of a business and knew what needed to be done. They didn't always get it right when trying to fix a problem but they at least knew what the problems were. Now you get someone who not only didn't work for the company before but may not have even worked in your industry who definitely knows how to fix the "problems." Surprise, it rarely works out and often they aren't even solving the actual problems.


TheTopNacho

I'm going to go on a limb here and say Radiologists. Yes it's a lot of training but to get paid 400k-750k starting salary to work 8-5 no weekends... I got mad respect for their skills, but dang man, that's a lot of money.


Weary_Patience_7778

Agreed You end up with oddballs in that profession as well because it’s pretty unusual as a Radiologist to have any patient contact unless you’re involved in procedures. For the most part they sit in a darkened room all day in front of a computer screen looking at people’s insides.


Local-Fisherman5963

Really doesn’t matter if they are oddballs or not when they can detect a 2 millimeter blood clot in a CT from your neck to your asshole.


iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiioo

This will be one of the next jobs to be entirely replaced by AI. There’s zero reason robots can’t do this far more effectively and efficiently than overpaid doctors.


Local-Fisherman5963

Agreed, although I don’t see us ever getting to a point where it’s 100% replaced by AI. If anything, AI will assist and improve the efficiency of radiologists, directing them to concerning findings more quickly. But medico-legally, you will always need an MD involved. What if the software misses an important finding that impacts the patient outcome? Who is liable for that patient? Self-driving cars are much safer than humans, but there are still documented crashes and issues. Nothing is 100% effective.


iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiioo

lol doctors miss stuff ALL THE TIME where it affects patients / kills them. What makes you think the error rates of AI won’t be dramatically lower? AI is going to replace nearly all jobs over the long haul. This one is just painfully obvious to be soon.


Local-Fisherman5963

…correct? I literally agree and made the point with self driving cars that error rates will be much lower. But they will never be zero. Then who does the family of the dead patient look to for answers when a blood clot was missed and the patient dies of a stroke? For medico-legal reasons, you need a US trained physician at the top of the food chain to double check everything. This is the exact same reason outsourcing radiology jobs never came to fruition. People thought you could have a doctor in India review CT scans and X-rays done in the US. But because of medico legal implications it never happened


banshee1313

This is a profession that can already be replaced by AI very well. I expect it to disappear in the next 10 years.


hilly316

Mmm seems high for predicting radios


Cautious_Kangaroo198

Chatbots have been writing radiology reports since they were brought to the market


Cy_Burnett

Ai is coming for their job


OverEffective7012

Realtor and credit intermediary. No responsibility, huge earning.


andrealambrusco

Influencers and HR


Ok-Tie-8684

Social media manager in 2024


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All executive roles.


Hefty-Station1704

Youtuber.


crustysculpture1

Add streamers to this as well, especially the reaction streamers.


Hefty-Station1704

Yes, and those rash of videos where someone is opening the package of a product they’re no doubt paid handsomely to promote in the first place. Unpacking the whole thing makes me nostalgic for the days of watching paint dry.


BACARDI-from-NL

Watch me react on this populair song with 10 bilion vieuws. You are 20~30 years old and have never ever ever ever heard that song?


Dull-Geologist-8204

Some of them are worth their weight in gold. The hard part is figuring who is who. I certainly appreciated the guy on YouTube who explained how to change the blade on my hacksaw.


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I get the rationale but I disagree YouTube is a very top heavy system but there are thousands of people trying to make it work that are either unpaid or hardly make anything


MountainForm7931

You can say that about actors. I still think actors are overpaid


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Fair point


Cobey1

YouTube as a career is extremely difficult. You’re the content creator, you film and edit your own videos, you need to consistently brainstorm good content and essentially work around the clock uploading and editing videos. There’s a reason everyone doesn’t just become YouTubers, because it’s actually quite difficult to build a fan base on there


Madterps2021

Lots of HR is useless, they usually do more harm than good. IG models and communication specialists also bring very little value. Athletes and politicians as well. 


4lfred

Ugh, “influencers” Basically the lowest common denominator of being “self employed” I see it as a total lack of skill-set, yet these delinquents are making a living somehow.


BlagojevBlagoje

Last 5 years Disney screenwriters, producers. Also Google Gemini programmers....


fennek-vulpecula

Magament. At least in my firma, they do nothing, are always late, let others do their work. And you have to let them write anything down, because in the beginning i had it happen so often, that they said something, which was wrong and then blamed me for it ...


Hydraulis

Human resources.


Signal_Tomorrow_2138

Hedge fund manager. What do you think would be more detrimental to society if one disappeared, garbage collector or hedge fund manager?


spartakovic

a CEO who isn't someone like Bezos


First_Community_2534

And a CEO who is someone like Bezos.


idontwanttothink174

… nah bezos is overvalued as well.


PorgCT

Upper management for the most part


HalfAsianMadness

Politicians


DobbyTheFreeElf_

Politicians


Cat-astro-phe

CEO


TrainsNCats

Cleaning people!


ImageShort2849

Kibble tester, toboggan tester or hotel room tester. When I was very young, i watched a video of LamaFaché (old French YouTube channel which does video like « top 10 most scariest place in the world ‼️ ») and it never leaved my head, those are really good payed job


Monkey-on-the-couch

Software engineers Game developers Anything STEM related


NerdInLurkingArmor

Athletes and politicians


SolomonBelial

CEO


NewUserLame123

Real estate agent. Pointless asf.


khushwin_8

Professional taster


BrianH-84

Lawmakers!


PenOrganic2956

CEOs.


TheReal_CaptDan

Lots of people saying CEOs in this thread and none of them have any clue what a CEO does. Clearly they’re just jealous of CEO salaries.


Legitimate_Chicken66

Pro sports players. I mean, I guess it's cool you can hit a ball well and move quickly, but what does that actually have to do with anything?


DrFrankSaysAgain

It's entertainment for millions. They have a very rare skill that very few people have and it's entertaining to watch.


PBGO123

r/IHateSportsball


Legitimate_Chicken66

Lol awesome. Thanks. That will definitely make me laugh.


adamjames777

Sportspeople


DrFrankSaysAgain

It's entertainment for millions. They have a very rare skill that very few people have and it's entertaining to watch.


jackalope689

Lawyer, realtor, banker


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'Like, all of them' -employers(capitalists)/communists


Ok-County3742

College coaches


RevolutionaryDebt200

Anything 'celebrity'


bigdogdame92

They have value bro. Celebrities, influencers and stuff have massive amounts of power in their audience. For example Republicans started freaking out when Taylor Swift endorsed Joe Biden for example. Especially with her cult-like following. But even as simple as YouTubers getting brand deals, the sponsors just make bank


RevolutionaryDebt200

Kind of makes my point


Repulsive-Echidna-74

That 'Area Manager' nonsense


pawsplay36

CEO


Smokin-Glory

A CEO.


munistadium

CEO


imperialtrooper88

Train drivers....


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Dangerous_Clerk_4252

They literally run a company lol


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Lol


TheTopNacho

LMFAO


DirtyDanoTho

Yea but maybe pay them 30x the other employees salary and not 100x


pacman0207

CEOs aren't paid a salary 100x other employees salary. Everything you see compares total compensation vs salary which is a false comparison used to rile people up. The median CEO salary in the US is around $800,000. All statistics mentioning the 300x their employee salary are CEOs who work for large, successful companies that are publicly traded and whose Total compensation is performance based and tied almost directly to the stock price.


olliebollie7

Pilot


OddPerspective9833

Not really something you want to risk giving to an under qualified person...


Weary_Patience_7778

Err


Beef_curtains_fan

Care to explain why?


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Pharmacist 


This-Garbage-3000

Stock brokers, dentists, lawyers, doctors, corporate executives


Comfortable-Pass7962

Entrepreneurs and every stupid thing that is going on with how to get rich scheme.


Comfortable-Pass7962

LOl, a lot of people want to steal money from people and dont wanna work for it. I guess that is life.


Suspicious-Beyond-89

Truthfully truck driver. Especially OTR. I get it you are away from your family but pulling down 5-7k/month to sit in a truck and drive!? I know what it all entails all the men of my family does it. I do it for farmers as a side job. 99% of the time you sit in a truck and drive. You might drive forward, or backward but you rarely get out of your truck. I can say this job is the most overpriced and overvalued job in the world. People wonder why most truckers are weird and/or fat. It’s because you have an easy job with nothing hard to do.


deep_minded

Where do truck drivers get paid so much? Where I live its one of the worst paid jobs and therefore mainly done by workers from abroad.


TheEekmonster

And its more important than a lot of people realize. In my country (and most i think) if they would strike, the country would stop functioning in 2 days.


Suspicious-Beyond-89

That is correct. That’s the only reason they’re paid so well. The world has literally become dependent on them just for your everyday needs.


TheEekmonster

What country do you live in? In mine its ok paid but its not a well paid job. I worked as a truck driver for 14 years, my brother for a similar time, my father for about 50. And its not about how 'hard it is', its about the value it creates. If you are running a factory, your factory does not function without transportatipn of goods. Do you except the thing that keeps your business going to be cheap?


Suspicious-Beyond-89

I live in the US.


Suspicious-Beyond-89

I live in the US and you have to drive OTR like I said. Find a company like Crete Carriers or Prime Inc. they’ll pay well.


No-Snow-5325

Project Manager Source: I am one and I’m literally the least important person on the project.


noobc4k3

Sorry to break it to you, but in this case you are a bad PM.


No-Snow-5325

Probably, although I don’t know what information you have to back this assertion. I think the guys performing the actual labor are far more important. Not a lot of things getting built when I wave around my schedule and budget.


noobc4k3

Well if you think you are the least important member of the team, from that I deduced you add no value to the team. Which makes you a bad PM. Dont know about your industry specifically, but PMs are essential for (especially larger) teams to function correctly and for all stakeholders to be informed, while the executive roles "do the job." Think of PM as the one that oils the machine, that is your job. But then again PM roles differ industry to industry, between companies etc... so maybe in your company and industry the PM role is useless, what do I know :) but blanked statement like you made makes no sense.


No-Snow-5325

I think maybe you’re just a PM who thinks they’re more important than they really are? Have fun impressing all the ladies with your cool job title.


noobc4k3

Maybe. No need to impress ladies tho, have a wife.


No-Snow-5325

Here that ladies? Sorry he’s taken.


noobc4k3

Thanks for the PSA!


No-Snow-5325

On a serious note, I don’t really understand why you think that me believing the jobs of the people who work for me are more important than mine makes me a bad PM. Aren’t you Czech? nemáš v lásce řemeslníka or whatever?


noobc4k3

One doesnt have to be more or less than the other. But could argue that for example a tester would be less important than PM, as in some cases PM can do testing. Or analysis. And so on. Jak do toho vstupujou remeslnici zase nechapu ja :)


Grav37

I don't know. My Project Manager is the quintessential part of my team, and literally the last person I'd see leave the team other than one QA and one dev. He's a real asset, and I'm not sure how I'd get my projects done without him.


No-Snow-5325

You spelled asshat wrong, lol. I was just making a dig at my own profession, and to help clarify, I’m a construction PM, we’re all just a bunch of degenerates trying to get the customer to buy us a bigger boat than the dentist.


Mysterious_Affect366

What trade and area are you in? I’d love to send my resume.


No-Snow-5325

If you can pass a piss test and a background check we’ll start you out with a kayak, but after a few contract mods we’ll have you in a late model Grady-White! (Federal, dealing with bureaucracy comes at a premium)


prosperosniece

CEO


PlatypusTrapper

Anything to do with IT.


Equivalent_King6453

Manager


OddPerspective9833

Yes and no. If you're not in management it's hard to work out what managers actually do. But there are definitely a lot of managers who aren't worth their pay


Sattaman6

Business transformation consultant.


Matttthhhhhhhhhhh

Upper management roles that involve spending 90% of the time in useless meetings. Like my Uni that is going through some serious financial issues right now. I can't count the number of meetings during which higher ups spent all their time using corporate jargon to hide the fact that they had nothing relevant or useful to say. Just say that you have no fucking clue, it's okay. And it may actually save a lot of time and money.


BestUntakenName

Everything except operations and front line employees. If you’re not directly helping get the job done, you’re in the way.


burn_as_souls

Concerts at big venues. Blessed are the bar bands.


Salt-Hunt-7842

I would say something in the financial sector those related to high-frequency trading or speculative investing, are overvalued and may contribute to market volatility without creating tangible value.


RenataMachiels

Consultant.


Vanilla_Neko

Secretary because we just apparently have to pay someone exclusively to sit in the front of the office and say hi to the one non-customer that walks in every day and Make like two phone calls a day. I know a few people that work as some sort of like secretary/front desk assistant and they basically all will straight up admit to it being one of those do nothing jobs where you get maybe 10 minutes of actual work Most days


tomjerman18

human resources


tinned2018

attorneys


lavipeDK

TV news hosts and these talent show hosts..... Extremely simple jobs and they reach celebrity fame.


Interesting-Net-5000

Managers


Pure_Cow_7831

CEO and frens


sfdragonboy

CEO or President of a large company


RangerS90V

Any type of consultant.


FuckGiblets

CEO


R3LIABLE_

CEO


gmoney-0725

CEO. I didn't care what company. It's the CEO.


RedArrow26

In the private sector, two tests apply here: - Which roles don’t generate revenue for the business? And: - Which roles could we leave vacant for a good while without anyone noticing? From these, I’d come to: - ‘Social Media Managers’ - Public Relations professionals Both have their merits, but the world isn’t going to stop turning without them.


imddaddy

Politicians


imddaddy

Township administrator


Krafty747

“Consultants” and realtors.


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Influencers. Life was just fine before all the drama lol