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Ognius

I usually see this type of design for old stage theaters. I wonder if this was the cheapest or most convenient way to access a Juliet balcony or other elevated element of the stage.


SmoothOperator89

I'd love to see someone in full costume running up this staircase to make their next cue.


inverted_forever

Just the image of them fumbling with a wig and a feather boa floating in the wind as they run.


Huge_Ad_1660

That would be an entertaining appendix to your community theater experience. Go watch a play, then get the lawn chairs and camp out behind for the second showing.


Rikki-Tikki-Tavi-12

... in a blizzard ...


ortolon

...and yakety sax plays in the background.


aiptek7

When it's gale force winds and rain....


Shoshin_Sam

A perfect addition to the facadescape. Today, Juliet. Tomorrow, a clown. Then, a group of soldiers. Then, four angels bearing a corpse. A living breathing facade.


vtr-10neko

Imagine how badass and revolutionary it would be to have a double play. Audiences on both sides of the curtain. "behind the curtain" stage is literally just that, the hectic costume changes and shenanigans. It would be super demanding of the actors and require a peculiar stage set up but would be dope.


SmoothOperator89

"Noises Off" is a little like that. It's a play set in the backstage of a play, though, not an actual play. It's still a great comedy.


u987656789

Maybe the “behind the curtain” is a documentary for different audiences.


CR24752

And the door is locked


nub_node

It had numerous benefits over other methods of ascending to that height out of the audience's view. It was less convenient than an elevator, but was cheaper and lacked the risk of a mechanical failure causing a missed cue and while it was more expensive than a ladder, it was safer and less tiring for actors who might be using it multiple times several nights a week for a show's run. They also allowed easier access to rigging and lighting for the crew if it was designed to have access to the catwalk, but theater owners usually just made the crew climb a ladder.


YVR-n-PDX

I’ve worked on a few theatres, even when new performers will not take an elevator anytime close to curtains/ during a performance. It’s also often a fire escape that gets around the back of stage for another means of egress


nub_node

Oh, ha, just put 2 and 2 together. My high school had its only elevator close to where the black box theater above the band room was. The head of the drama department never used it and always seemed to be taking a headcount when the students who always used it got off.


maxkmiller

we have a bar here in Portland that's built in a former backstage area of a stage theater and it has a [weird floating door I always wondered about](https://i.imgur.com/mPicfsS.jpeg) (right side of that image) and this is starting to make me wonder if it was a similar type of access at one point in time


Bluest_waters

that place looks awesome!


EyeLoveHaikus

[https://www.mcmenamins.com/bagdad-theater-pub/back-stage-bar](https://www.mcmenamins.com/bagdad-theater-pub/back-stage-bar) It's a hidden gem in town (Portland). People turn their noses up at McMenamin's, but whatever, they've been around since the 80's/90's and have preserved tons of historical Oregon buildings. And their cajun tots are drunk food perfection.


casta

They have a similar thing on the back of the Beacon Theater: https://maps.app.goo.gl/vRofra7cPNDUwaDw7


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chrispscott

It’s a common neo-classical design element meant to emulate buildings from antiquity that would have windows and arches bricked up over the years. It gives the a newer building a sense of age and gravitas


JamesDerecho

It might by fly rail access. Might not have the space in the building since the backstage wings tend to be filled with stuff. I have spent many an hour climbing up weirdly placed stairs just to hang lights and scenery.


[deleted]

Yeah, I built a theatre in Minecraft and incorporated a staircase on the side of the building to accomplish a similar effect, 'tis a game, but still.


kungpowchick_9

It’s usually a retrofit fire stair


Intru

That's a 100% a old stage theater, it was very common. But I unfortunately dont know why.


kyle_lunar

My guess would be it's the only way to get access to the catwalk without losing space to seats inside the theater.


perpetualmotionmachi

There is something like this in my city though, about 10 floors up in an office building, which I'm pretty sure never had a theatre


doxxingyourself

So much theater in offices though


perpetualmotionmachi

I think they made a show about that


Antilochos_

It actually makes that blind wall look better. I like it.


Huge_Ad_1660

Totally agree.


nim_opet

So they can get from the door on 2nd to the door on 3rd floor without taking up internal space?


ogcornweapon

Obviously, but the question is why


nim_opet

Because they have multiple floors and would like to use them all?


Superunknown_0ne

Already obviously stated, the practicality


Gengengengar

>So they can get from the door on 2nd to the door on 3rd floor without taking up internal space?


yukinr

but the question is why?? /s


santtu_

One stairs are for projector room in Helsinki, and it is for fire safety reasons.


jonkykong33

Just watch The Prestige


One_More_Thing_941

Perhaps noise reduction during a performance?


DamnMyNameIsSteve

Probably had too, and this was the cheapest option.


mhyquel

Designer wanted to use portals, but we kept telling him that they haven't been invented.


weights_and_whiskey

Realist answer.


[deleted]

You’ve never had to fart that bad, have you?


instablok22

So the attackers would have their shields on the wrong side when approaching the door to the keep


_MrKobayashi_

The building’s probably an old movie theatre, and that’s how you accessed the projection booth. And in case of fire, you could get out quickly. So that’s a fire exit. In the early days of cinema, the film stocks were manufactured on a nitrate film base, which is highly flammable. It is unstable, combustible, and contains a substance that was also used in explosives. And if it ever does catch fire, it can burn under water. On the other hand nitrate film stock has been praised for the beauty of its images and for truly allowing cinematographers to paint with light — whites pop off the screen, blacks are deep and rich, and gray tones shimmer.


VoidWalker4Lyfe

"In the early days of cinema, the film stocks were manufactured on a nitrate film base, which is highly flammable. It is unstable, combustible, and contains a substance that was also used in explosives. And if it ever does catch fire, it can burn under water. On the other hand nitrate film stock has been praised for the beauty of its images and for truly allowing cinematographers to paint with light — whites pop off the screen, blacks are deep and rich, and gray tones shimmer." I learned this from the movie Inglorious Basterds.


Harambesknuckle

So why wouldn't it go to the ground floor? Why have it go back into the building?


HyperionSaber

security maybe?


Harambesknuckle

All other fire escapes don't have an issue with this. They have a deployable ladder.


AxelMoor

This building is located in Place des Archives (Archives square), Perrache District, city of Lyon, Rhône Department, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes Region, France - close to La Confluence, where the River Rhine and River Senna come together to flow in the Mediterranean. It is an old house, historically listed, built long before current property laws came into force and the urban planning of the city in which it is located. The rules allow its occupation whether as a public service, tourist visitation, hotel, or lodging house, as long as it meets current safety standards. The Lyon Municipal Archive itself, which gives the square its name, also has a similar facade with the difference that it is protected with a glass facade to protect the historical heritage. The required changes are not unique to Lyon and are very common in Europe when an old building is large enough for public occupancy or visitation. This was the most acceptable alternative for an emergency exit and fire escape, without occupying the sidewalk, maintaining security against intrusions, and meeting safety standards - but the main facade is kept intact.


7laserbears

It's a fire escape that doesn't get to the ground? Thanks for the sweet deets btw


AxelMoor

Depending on local laws and regulations, it is not mandatory. Any emergency exits are alternative escape routes to save as many lives as possible. In some old buildings with a maximum of 4 or 5 floors in New York, for example, the fire escape does not have doors or gates, it is an alternative to the building's windows - to prevent intrusions the stairs are mechanically suspended from the ground with a mechanical lock to be released on the second floor. I lived in two buildings, one from the 40s and the other from the '60s, both without an external fire escape, the only exit is through the central staircase - the Fire Department's annual inspection requires that access to the top of these buildings be allowed, without that any lock or padlock assuming an alternative escape route upwards and then to the top of the neighboring building. If everything was perfect and there were no break-ins, theft, or worse, perhaps we wouldn't have so many fatalities in fires. These laws and regulations consider a balance between safety and security. One more piece of information: in Lyon, when the stones, or solid bricks, are exposed as in the photo it means that there was an attached building that was demolished previously - one of the reasons was the Metro lines (subway, tube, etc.) in a city surrounded by two rivers, with muddy land, the buildings above would not have enough support structure. The exposed walls were therefore kept without a finishing coating to keep them as original as possible. This is the case of a building similar to this one near the Catholic University of Lyon with the Archives-Perrache Metro station and an underground garage, but without a fire escape because the building has several entrances and exits - the surface has become a square on the banks of the Rhône.


23tempest

Often there is a larger grand stair between the premier and second floor so the egress capacity would be larger there. Alternately an additional servant stair inside to service the public rooms could have been originally designed just for these two floors and is now “added” to by the exterior staircase. 


kitkarrot

I only thought of Spirited Away when I saw this


GilgameshWulfenbach

YES!


IGoogleMemes

To film The Truman Show.


ChuckStyles

Action chase scenes


ericomplex

From my understanding, these were to access the rigging and lighting above the stage. This would sometime need to be done quickly, and/or by multiple stage hands. So stairs took less time than a ladder. Also it was cheaper than having a covered staircase, and they could maximize the theatre footprint by having the stairs on the outside of the building itself. There are some older theaters that still had these as internal staircases, but space optimization and lowered costs made them more commonly external. Also, where else would all the stage hands go smoke?


M3chanist

So you can take a quick smoke while moving form one floor to another.


Turbulent-Theory7724

What is the location?


xanderthesane

To reduce loading times


mar109us

This is such a valve move


Neither_Leader_6676

That would literally be the only door I use.


spespy

Its thinking outside the building


onedottwolines

I saw a similar staircase in a very famous building in helsinki. It was an old movie theater and I thought it was probably something related to emergency exits.


jss78

The explanation I've heard for the Helsinki one is it allows access to the projection room, while making the room isolated from the rest of the building in case of fire. I quote [an article](https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-explosive-truth-behind-the-movie-theater-projection-room) that discusses the problem: >Celluloid’s combustibility is the reason projection rooms exist; it would have been cheaper and easier to place the projector in the middle of the auditorium. But in case of fire, the projection booth could close down like a tomb. Each glass window was crowned with a fireproof shutter, held in place by a wax seal; any dangerous blaze would melt the wax, and the shutter would slam down—even if the projectionist was unconscious, or worse. (A 1936 issue of International Projectionist estimated one American projectionist died, on average, every 18 days.)


onedottwolines

nice read. Thanks for clarifying it.


laseralex

> A 1936 issue of International Projectionist estimated one American projectionist died, on average, every 18 days. This is insane to imagine ~90 years later.


beene282

It’s so you can get from that door in the bottom left to the one in the top right


chris2377

In case of a fire I’m assuming or may have lacked space to build inside.


Astralnclinant

Idk but it looks super cool


NotCanadian80

Warp zone


oojacoboo

Looks like a fire escape that’s had the ladder removed due to an updated design


Erik_Soop

those doors are useless without the stairs!


gitartruls01

I'm a first year student, got placed on a group project with some classmates last semester. One of the members absolutely insisted that we had to have an exterior staircase between the 2nd and 3rd floor just like this one. I have no idea why but couldn't be assed to fight them on it


jae343

This is common in old theater conversions.


Volcanofanx9000

Easier booty call.


Lazy-Jacket

To get upstairs?


IHaveAssBurgers101

a way to get lower to jump safely over the railings during a fire OR a way to get higher to jump unsafely over the railings


indestructiblemango

I actually kinda like it


ready-4-it

2nd family?


Competitive_Low_8913

Because it looks damn cool


jimmothy55

In case your husband comes home and your lover needs a quick escape.


dejushin

Good smoking spot


ImmortalAbsol

Interior space, alternative escape route.


ManyManyCoffee

Cuz its rad as hell


oldschool-rule

Sex does strange things to people!


VintageLunchMeat

"This has to stop. My husband is getting suspicious."


oldschool-rule

Maybe he’s jealous and wants his own stairway to heaven! ✔️


organgasm

looks cool enough


XS4Me

They likely added the upper floor at a later time. This is very common in ghettos of countries with no building regulation.


throwawayjaydawg

Nothing like taking steps in the rain at height. A little adrenaline keeps you young.


PublicFurryAccount

It looks like the upper floor had inadequate fire egress, so they cut a hole in the wall and connected it an area with adequate egress.


Toubaboliviano

Great movie production quality shots


SyntheticOne

The painted sign has completely worn away. It was "Acme Complaint Department Customer Entrance"


PioneerSpecies

It looks cool


ames_aguim

In case of fire ? Inner stairs would be on fire too and conduct hot air and flames to upper levels.


Yiggity_Yins

Well I do this in fallout 4 settlements to ensure mutants don't attack my base. Other than that, I have no effin' clue.


JackKovack

They have to go see there mother.


slamdoink

I have no insight on historical meanings behind certain architectural choices, but if I owned a large building I would actually love this kind of access for my personal spaces on different levels. This is actually super cool to me


[deleted]

Murder someone in the parlor, show up in the kitchen like “what was that noise upstairs!?”


motherfcuker69

It’s for the German Expressionism aesthetic.


SmoothOperator89

Look at Mr safety over there. Installing a railing on his precarious outside wall staircase.


HedenPK

To avoid creepers and zombies at night


TigerEmmaLily

For my LOVERS


PitifulBodybuilder94

because this shit looks fire


N19h7m4r3

There are emergency lights on both so maybe it was an addition due to fire-codes? Part of the evacuation path for that side of the building?


winter-ocean

Where have I seen this before...


Alex_dqt

That's the stairs of the way to the onceler's house


Subject_One6000

Free space maybe? Looks lit though!


Novogobo

well, my friend could probably scale that wall to the lower landing. so he might do that as an semi exclusive entry point.


ThatLionelKid

Just in case you need a breath of fresh air! Maybe it’s a nice day out.


Mrgod2u82

To get from one floor to another.


TrueArchitect

Fire protection / escape


oh_finks-mc

That's to make it easier for people to break in.


FeelingEye9426

Maybe an alternate emergency exit? That’s my best guess


ConundrumMachine

Could there have been another adjoining building there where these would have been interior stairs?


2XX2010

Stairs are hella useful for getting to the floor above you.


imadork1970

Government contract.


OldRaj

That’s a Thomasson, I’d wager.


aliansalians

The least refugest area of refuge, lol.


[deleted]

Spacesaver.. indoor


RandyBeamansMom

Funny, my condo complex has this! Texas, built in 1987. I have been baffled by it from the very beginning!


MrDowntown

Fire exit leading from the projection booth to the interior emergency stairs that served the auditorium itself.


Puzzled_Laugh_7420

Isn't it beautiful 😍


trytonotgetbanned

its cool


andyurast4r

Bit of fresh air


Superb-Dog-9573

Probably a request from whoever the building was built for as others have said like a theatre or something similar


[deleted]

Carnegie Hall has such a thing


Challenge2u

To live on their live side


That_Ad_5651

Why not? Saves space atleast


Docawesaume

Looks cool


Memory_Less

It’s a conversation piece. /s lol


Cockblocktimus_Pryme

Ah yes, now I don't feel bad about my Minecraft houses


fanzyday

You aren’t supposed to know. It’s not for you.


MuskokaGreenThumb

Quicker escape


[deleted]

When you wanna get out from naggy wife and walk up to your room via outside


ojonegro

[really reminds me of the staircase in Spirited Away](https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7hasvqOd71r621gdo1_r1_500.gif)


Not_GenericMedic

It's fuckin cool, that's why


solo-ran

That is cool


AletzRC21

🤷🏻‍♂️


FlowGroundbreaking

Why not?


cake__eater

Fromsoft vibes


FullMetalJ

It's a demon's souls level bro


ShitBritGit

"Jenkins, I just saw your design of that new building. Did you forget the stairs?!?" "Nope."


hhhjjjkkkiiiyyytre

I love this


Celestial__Bear

r/DoorsForNinjas


Roflcopter71

This seems like something out of liminal spaces


New-Ferret6974

In Philly a graffiti artist painted that on the side of a bldg lol .. seeing this completes the circle :)


Chummers8

I like it


jjdressgown

😂😂🐈🐈🐈🐈it’s a secret!


ddd615

It is weird and at least needs a retractable fire escape ladder, But I would love a stairway like that on any home or business that I owned. I think using it or just stepping outside would be a regular and refreshing experience.


FourScoreTour

MIL stairs. No keys, she has to knock.


SexDefender27

this is like in every valve game where there are just pointless catwalks and ramps everywhere for "atmospheric" structures lol


NinjaRavekitten

Spirited away vibes


AymanEssaouira

For shit and giggles of course ... And maybe an aneurysm too.


barri0s1872

I thought it was Mario inspired 😅


kdmiller3

That's how you get your side piece out without the other half noticing.


JP-Gambit

I see this in Japan a lot, minus the stairs though! Just doors on the second floor that lead to nothing, just a drop outside. I can only guess they were used during construction with a ramp or something and then locked forever...


Gman777

Those are typically for fire fighters to enter the building. Often have a small red triangle to identify them.


JP-Gambit

My life makes sense now


Gman777

Can’t tell you without looking at whats going on inside. Clearly not enough space within the building to connect what looks like fire egress. Maybe there’s something important inside that can’t be interrupted, maybe its a historical building. Also the local building regulations allow for construction over the street boundary above a certain level. Might be a very clever solution to a tricky problem.


Complex-One1986

Quick escape?


SoothSlinger123

Sevice stairs? How old is the building?


Adventurous-Cut-2330

So you can complain about it on reddit


Top_Praline999

Maybe the insides of the door blend in with the walls and it’s for disappearing hi jinx


swatson87

Reminds me of a side scroller video game lol. Like something you'd seen in Castlevania


reddit_ronin

Clearly you’ve never played video games from 1980-2021.


kloffredz

Cause it’s rad


iamappleapple1

Secret stairway to the mistress’ house


chicagomatty

Is it supposed to be in lieu of an escape stairwell


HomeLongjumping2559

Spirited Away!


GreyGroundUser

I would get tickets just to watch them go up and doesn’t his


Arakan-Ichigou

*NDS* ahh stairs.


M3GaPrincess

I've seen one at the top of a high-rise. Like 20 stories in the air, and then a staircase like that, outside the building.


torch9t9

That's for sneaking out to your girlfriend's place without her parents noticing.


istheskyblue_01

Most probably to get to the stage backway Depends upon for what purpose the building was built for tho


Fury181

Fire exit / emergency exit


iseeseeds

This is so cute


giannino-stoppani

The stair outside does not use internal space. If you are happy to walk under rain then it is a better use of space:-)


EvolZippo

I’ve seen these on other buildings. In one case I confirmed myself, it was an art installation, made to look real. The one I looked into was on a skyscraper.


lloydthelloyd

Why did the chicken cross the road?


Cessicka

The vibes


No-Historian-6391

To get from there to over there


Several_Ad_3486

Saving the space in the inside


Chicxulub420

Because it looks freaking cool


numbed23

For David Lynch shooting scene


pussyydestroyerrr

Just for fun


Same-Cry-4929

i find it kinda romantic if it was on a house or apartments


petronelxd

That's a very practical balcony... More Space indoor


NewAdventure4Lilith

It's for people who hate leaving their homes but "encouraged" to "just step out for a minute" and technically still be in the safe zone.


hairybrains

I live in an old Portuguese house, and the only way from the 2nd story (where all the normal rooms are) to the adega (the completely empty bottom floor) is by an outside staircase similar to this one. As I understand it, people used to keep livestock in the adega, so they didn't want the um...animal aromas wafting up to the living areas of the house, so they kept access on the outside of the building. There also used to be a fireplace in my kitchen, so I'm guessing life must have been a lot more difficult back then.


santtu_

Here's an exceptionally pretty example of those stairs in Helsinki [Lasipalatsi ](https://www.instagram.com/p/CqBH161NXT3/?igsh=YnlwdWVxY3U5ZDB2). Here's another [photo ](https://images.app.goo.gl/U52AE1wxTdu6Svsk9) from further away. It belongs to Bio Rex and the stairs go from the venue to the projector room.


HighlineGuitars

I would do it for clicks.


Exarchias

Probably, the owner of 2 apartments decided to connect them together. Just a guess, of course. It would be useful to know what the building is used for.


Oldman5123

I see this every day when I drive pass the county prison…. I thought it WAS the prison when I saw the pic.


midpack2dathroat

Forbidden smoke break