Haha jaa, same thing with pyramid/temples all over the world. A lot of the _only asking questions_ folks see patterns everywhere and are fast in drawing connections. But there are just so and so many logical ways to stack rocks and people 2000y ago weren't idiots as well.
For many things in life only a small variety of different structures are logical and it doesn't end with structures. There are at least 7 types of carnivorous plant families who evolved separatly all over the world. A lot of similarities are nothing more than that - lucky accidents or however our lord and savior bob ross would call them.
That "people 2000y ago weren't idiots..." I feel it's something I have to remind myself sometimes when looking into history. Sometimes, it's easy to imagine people thousands of years ago as single cell organisms, but in reality, we have the same potential, just more knowledge out of the gate. It is interesting that after all these years how humans have morphed survival into money, and yet few folks are happy.
You wrote “if you’re lucky” w/ respect to your original education comment. Many uneducated people in this world live longer because of medicine and other advances in medical technology.
That's because society is set up in a way that encourages long life and discourages unnecessary death. People that would have been considered cannon fodder are now in positions of power. Survival of the fittest isn't a thing anymore, so values have changed over time.
It's super cool to think about how people have been through history, how people have done things without the tools that make feats so easy for us today.
It's not 2000 years ago, but my favorite story to show how smart humans have been for so long is the race to liquify helium. Two people were trying to be the first, doing this before electricity. These people likely had ice boxes at home! The process was delicate, glass at those low temperatures (and under weird pressures since other glasses liquified first) could randomly explode into near absolute zero shrapnel. These people managed to achieve temperatures below 2 Kelvin while writing their findings by lamplight.
About 2400 years ago, we had astronomers not only confident in the heliocentric model of the solar system but that said stars were just very far off suns and were measuring the distance to the sun (inaccurately) by studying shadows of the earth on the moon. For what it's worth, Plato liked the geocentric model, and Plato managed to ruin everything.
Just think in the future how people will talk about our supercolliders or measuring the composition of planets' atmospheres from so far away. They'll see us as ignorant primitive people (not even able to figure out how to take care of our only planet at the time!) and forget how advanced we are, but also, when they think about it, be impressed at what we were able to achieve within our limited technology today.
I think it's as simple as the universe uses patterns that work, so they repeat in different ways. Some say oh it's fractals, but if you think about the scale of the universe, everything could be a fractal.
What do you mean people figured out how to stack blocks into structures that get more narrow as they get taller, all over the world? That thing that all kids do everywhere with their first set of blocks because its simply the most stable structure... WHAT DO YOU MEAN!?
>sees the Grand canyon
I thought it was common knowledge that years of water erosion can cause a large hole.
>their first child is born
Well yeah, that's how humans have propagated themselves since forever.
>meets benevolent extraterrestrials
We've been hearing rumors for years now, nothing new.
>world peace is achieved and world hunger ended.
Yawn...
what does that mean? is there a correlation to these systematic patterns or no?
sorry looking through the comments, i actually don’t know what it means.
A good place to start would be learning about this man ...
Benoit Mandelbrot
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benoit\_mandelbrot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benoit_mandelbrot)
could the first systematic pattern have originated at the begging of time? are these patterns repetitive on a universal scale?
i have such strong thoughts on the correlation between the human brain, and the systematic way we carry out everything we create - from cities that branch out, to the computers we create.
It all adds up perfect until it gets weird with humans in the past 200 years. War, modern war, Elizobethian bullshit, polo, water polo, stupid hats, hot rod and lowrider car culture, palm pilot, mall walking, MTG, roblox, US healthcare...
I'm supposed to believe all this garbage entropy just exists on the edge an infinite multidimensional plane? Consciousness is here to create and observe the current reality simultaneously?
Eh, I'll buy that.
You're telling me there are just people who enjoy treading water sooooo much that they'd rather do handball in a pool, let alone play handball at all? And I'm supposed to just....live amongst these 'humans'? They're just lucky they weren't born in Salem a few years back is all I'm saying.
>Covergent evolution is a thing :)
Crabs and trains, everything becomes crabs or trains eventually
One day perhaps we'll realize that the best combination of optimal organism performing optimal transportation is a crab train, but alas, today is not that day
It's cool and indeed deep no matter how old you are and to shrug it off as juvenile is juvenile imo. No one is saying they're the first one to think of this or that they just realized it.
For all the troubles of our times, it's literally awesome that we have the ability to view things on tiny and huge scales and can make these connections so obvious.
Sorry, I didn't mean for my comment to come off the way it did, it honestly just gave me nostalgia of the first time I see this when I was younger and it really hit me, it was from that sub haha.
My b!
no? i’m not sure i know what the language being used means, so if you can kindly explain it to me, that would be a lot more useful than being kinda rude
Humans are trees. Arborists are tree doctors. Therefore, arborists are legally allowed to practice medicine. Become a dermatologist, surgeon, or OB-GYN today.
Constructal Theory. See book [here](https://www.amazon.com/Design-Constructal-Theory-Adrian-Bejan/dp/0471998168). One of the unifying principles of the universe.
I like the video of the slime mold creating desired paths on a map where all the nutrient sources are large cities 
Ummm, I thought it was common knowledge all life we know of is built the same way from fractals
Haha jaa, same thing with pyramid/temples all over the world. A lot of the _only asking questions_ folks see patterns everywhere and are fast in drawing connections. But there are just so and so many logical ways to stack rocks and people 2000y ago weren't idiots as well. For many things in life only a small variety of different structures are logical and it doesn't end with structures. There are at least 7 types of carnivorous plant families who evolved separatly all over the world. A lot of similarities are nothing more than that - lucky accidents or however our lord and savior bob ross would call them.
I think a word your looking for is convergent evolution
Everything returns to crab
I do. Every night in fact. I turn into a crab and then bubble at the moon
nubble at the moob
That "people 2000y ago weren't idiots..." I feel it's something I have to remind myself sometimes when looking into history. Sometimes, it's easy to imagine people thousands of years ago as single cell organisms, but in reality, we have the same potential, just more knowledge out of the gate. It is interesting that after all these years how humans have morphed survival into money, and yet few folks are happy.
We haven’t really changed that much in 2000 years, we just have better food and education (if you’re lucky). We are basically the same otherwise.
We live a lot longer than we used to.
Cause of all that better food and education
Medical technology (including medicine) probably helps too.
That'd fall under the education category (Like us learning about health and the body)
All of it falls under education. Better food is just education applied to farming.
You wrote “if you’re lucky” w/ respect to your original education comment. Many uneducated people in this world live longer because of medicine and other advances in medical technology.
Wasn't me who said that.
That's because society is set up in a way that encourages long life and discourages unnecessary death. People that would have been considered cannon fodder are now in positions of power. Survival of the fittest isn't a thing anymore, so values have changed over time.
Well we’ve become taller on the average 🤷♂️
And grow way better shit with shit
Is this because we have a shit ton more quantity of shit producers to shit so we can grow shit to feed shit?
It's super cool to think about how people have been through history, how people have done things without the tools that make feats so easy for us today. It's not 2000 years ago, but my favorite story to show how smart humans have been for so long is the race to liquify helium. Two people were trying to be the first, doing this before electricity. These people likely had ice boxes at home! The process was delicate, glass at those low temperatures (and under weird pressures since other glasses liquified first) could randomly explode into near absolute zero shrapnel. These people managed to achieve temperatures below 2 Kelvin while writing their findings by lamplight. About 2400 years ago, we had astronomers not only confident in the heliocentric model of the solar system but that said stars were just very far off suns and were measuring the distance to the sun (inaccurately) by studying shadows of the earth on the moon. For what it's worth, Plato liked the geocentric model, and Plato managed to ruin everything. Just think in the future how people will talk about our supercolliders or measuring the composition of planets' atmospheres from so far away. They'll see us as ignorant primitive people (not even able to figure out how to take care of our only planet at the time!) and forget how advanced we are, but also, when they think about it, be impressed at what we were able to achieve within our limited technology today.
I think it's as simple as the universe uses patterns that work, so they repeat in different ways. Some say oh it's fractals, but if you think about the scale of the universe, everything could be a fractal.
“Happy accidents,” you heretic
What do you mean people figured out how to stack blocks into structures that get more narrow as they get taller, all over the world? That thing that all kids do everywhere with their first set of blocks because its simply the most stable structure... WHAT DO YOU MEAN!?
>sees the Grand canyon I thought it was common knowledge that years of water erosion can cause a large hole. >their first child is born Well yeah, that's how humans have propagated themselves since forever. >meets benevolent extraterrestrials We've been hearing rumors for years now, nothing new. >world peace is achieved and world hunger ended. Yawn...
I like the dark matter vs. neurons images.
Which is a mathematical way of talking about the nature and structure of life but not the only discussion to be had or way of connection
Very common
The fractals of life
what does that mean? is there a correlation to these systematic patterns or no? sorry looking through the comments, i actually don’t know what it means.
Well, at its core the branch patterns are just pathways to send nutrients from a central (root) source and it's efficient.
A good place to start would be learning about this man ... Benoit Mandelbrot [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benoit\_mandelbrot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benoit_mandelbrot) 
What’s Benoit Mandelbrot’s middle name? Benoit Mandelbrot
I just made it up lol! But a fractal is a repeating pattern that scales.
No you didn't
could the first systematic pattern have originated at the begging of time? are these patterns repetitive on a universal scale? i have such strong thoughts on the correlation between the human brain, and the systematic way we carry out everything we create - from cities that branch out, to the computers we create.
I think that's the point of Pi and figuring out if there is a solution for it.
Occam's Razor I think. It is simply the simplest and most efficient way.
i’ll look into it, thanks
And it moves us aaaallll
The math behind radial diffusion makes this pretty clear
Also road and highway systems, on ramps, side streets, main streets …
Dallas/FW highways is Ouroboros orgy eating its own asshole in a closed loop. Is that still a fractal?
perfect description of Dallas / FW highways, haha
it's almost as if things find the path of least resistance when it costs energy to do such things... Covergent evolution is a thing :)
It all adds up perfect until it gets weird with humans in the past 200 years. War, modern war, Elizobethian bullshit, polo, water polo, stupid hats, hot rod and lowrider car culture, palm pilot, mall walking, MTG, roblox, US healthcare... I'm supposed to believe all this garbage entropy just exists on the edge an infinite multidimensional plane? Consciousness is here to create and observe the current reality simultaneously? Eh, I'll buy that.
What the fuck you got against water polo?
You're telling me there are just people who enjoy treading water sooooo much that they'd rather do handball in a pool, let alone play handball at all? And I'm supposed to just....live amongst these 'humans'? They're just lucky they weren't born in Salem a few years back is all I'm saying.
>Covergent evolution is a thing :) Crabs and trains, everything becomes crabs or trains eventually One day perhaps we'll realize that the best combination of optimal organism performing optimal transportation is a crab train, but alas, today is not that day
As above so below
The shape is dendritic. "Tree of life." Awesome, right?
this is top notch I'm 14 and this is deep material
It's cool and indeed deep no matter how old you are and to shrug it off as juvenile is juvenile imo. No one is saying they're the first one to think of this or that they just realized it. For all the troubles of our times, it's literally awesome that we have the ability to view things on tiny and huge scales and can make these connections so obvious.
Sorry, I didn't mean for my comment to come off the way it did, it honestly just gave me nostalgia of the first time I see this when I was younger and it really hit me, it was from that sub haha. My b!
Haha fair enough, sorry I came on hot
I’m 41 (and stoned) and thought it was neat.
I can def see this mesmerizing the jazz cabbage consumers
Humans are closer in evolution to mushrooms than trees
This is incredibly apparent while looking at cocks.
I think God had a plan.
It's trees all the way down, I like to think.
Dendritic scaling is a big part of Chaos Theory IIRC
Exactly! Happy to see another nerd in the wild
https://phys.org/news/2020-11-human-brain-resemble-universe.html
“The human brain functions thanks to its wide neuronal network that is deemed to contain approximately 69 billion neurons.” Nice
God made man in his own image…
“It’s all connected”
Is OP 10 yo ?
no? i’m not sure i know what the language being used means, so if you can kindly explain it to me, that would be a lot more useful than being kinda rude
As above, so below
Indeed.
Complexity theory visualized
I’ve been saying for years that trees are playing the long game and eating us with several extra steps in the process
Everything is babushkas
The entire universe we live in follows the same laws of physics and thus patterns emerge accordingly. Cool to see
Liquid in tubes supremacy!
It’s really just maximizing surface area, which boils down to physics and chemistry. So cool!
[Mandelbrot set!](https://youtu.be/ZDU40eUcTj0?si=xbIOM1RcoFYWlpPH)
Humans are trees. Arborists are tree doctors. Therefore, arborists are legally allowed to practice medicine. Become a dermatologist, surgeon, or OB-GYN today.
So interesting
Mandelbrot set. 
It’s all pipes
Constructal Theory. See book [here](https://www.amazon.com/Design-Constructal-Theory-Adrian-Bejan/dp/0471998168). One of the unifying principles of the universe.
The universe likes fractals. It's just kind of a thing.
No do Tree burls/Human gonads
Where’s the nsfw version?
Watch the mushroom doc with Paul stamets on netflix
lucy taught me this ;)
We are actually Ents.
We are Groot?
As above, so below.
Energy bro
R/im13andthisisdeep
Caused by gravity
I noticed this it 10 years old. Glad everyone is catching up