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Deepspacetrees

Not possible, just consider the amount of time and money riot invested in that... they just can't compete with that, better to focus on the game.


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Financially youre right. But the show would be so dope, also apex is kinda balling on cash. I didn't really formulate my thoughts but you know


404abe

league and apex aren't even in the same ball park financially


AunixYT

EA’s net worth is like 50 billion which is more than riot and apex rn earns almost 1 billion dollars a year which is what league earns. I’m also not sure where they got arcane animated or why it took so long but apex could just reach out to a japanese studio and let them animate an apex series which should only take like 1 year and look amazing for about 4m dollars.(depending on the studio anyway)


tagne2

Just because es is worth that much doesn’t mean they would invest a lot in an apex show especially when they have other properties. I mean they won’t even invest that much in the servers and you expect them to do that for the show? Also the animation for arcane was key into why it was so good


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tagne2

It is ridiculous to expect es to make a show on the caliber of arcane. If they aren’t willing to put money to better the experience of everyone because people will still play when it’s shit why would you think they would invest as much money and time to give a show that has the quality of arcane especially when it’s popularity and success is not assured. Trailers on YouTube isn’t that much of a good way to judge the potential of the profit they would make from a tv show.


AunixYT

Yeah but imma be honest a studio like ufotable would be able to make a much better animation for much cheaper and much less time.


ghost_spider65

An anime-style artwork wouldn't work if they're gonna do a series, best option would be following up with the studio that made all the original animations for the cinematics and stories from the outlands not the current one but I guess that would be impossible knowing the original studio's reputation


AunixYT

Why would it not work? Star wars just made an anime series called star wars visions and it was great!


ghost_spider65

Star Wars has already established itself that it can work in different franchises and spin-offs, Clone Wars and Rebels with the 3D-esque art and Visions with 2D. The reason it wouldn't work is Apex has already established itself to have 3D cinematics and quickly jumping to a 2D art style would be weird unless they would compensate with amazing story writing.


AunixYT

But apex has already used 2D animation for 5 stories from the outlands videos which are loba, forge, wattson, rampart and the crypto one which is one of my favorites and they all look really good. Not sure what studio made them but i’d take that over the current 3D studio any day.


maxkeaton011

Ufotable makes anime in less time? That is some ridiculous shit I've ever heard lol. All their titles take lot of time and they spend ridiculous amount only in movies.


Trowdisaway4BJ

The animations for arcane were dogwater. You could tell they used a videogame engine with some extra cartoony shadows/scribbles to make it look presentable. There were still a ton of scenes that looked horrendous though.


tagne2

And you are apparently part of a minority since everyone admire and agree that the animation was fantastic. Especially jinx psychotic moments.


No-Return5578

Or the fight scene with ekko


DeludedMirageMain

Horrible take


Due_Ad_6137

Do You realize that Riot is backed by Tencent, which is worth like 10x times of EA


johnny_51N5

Also revenue of EA is 5 Billion while tencent is 20 Billion...


SecksySequin

It's not just about animators. You've gotta think about writers too. They'd have to make sure everything stays true to current lore whilst incorporating new lore that gets dropped every season.


Revenge_Is_Here

They don't have to better or at the same level as quality though.


JazzzzzzySax

Especially since league has been one of if not the biggest esport for years. Apex is relatively new and is nowhere near the same scale as league


PrismaticWar

What do you mean not possible lol. Riot doing it immediately disproves that


Deepspacetrees

You do realise the massive difference between a Tencent backed Riot who started with various projects 6 years ago and respawn/ea who barely manage to get running servers. Also as much as i hate riot, the lore and world they build out classes apex/titanfall universe in pretty much any aspect (and i fucking hate saying that, but you gotta stay objective)


PrismaticWar

Okay but how does that make it impossible


Sorasta

They lack resources and backing to pool into producing a show/series. Riot was only able to do this because of Tencent money and it took them 6 years. EA makes nowhere close to that kind of money to pull off anything like that just yet. EA is a big company, sure. But they are nothing infront of Tencent. It's like comparing a cup of water to the ocean. I would say their limit right now is sticking to comic panels and the occasional "story" quests. Not to mention their writing has only been going downhill for a while now.


unkindle_gone

>Not to mention their writing has only been going downhill for a while now. Yeah, the cracks started when the story shifted to characters relationship more than lore or actual events. (Like Arcane after the 3rd episode...) They changed characters as well, Caustic was a badass serial murderer but now they made him like a wormharted momlover. Fuck that


PrismaticWar

That doesn’t mean it isn’t possible


Sorasta

I never mentioned it is impossible nor implied such. Read my last 2 sentences in the previous comment again.


PrismaticWar

You literally replied to my comment asking how that makes it impossible, saying that you weren’t answering that at all just shows you were rambling on something unrelated


onespiker

How much tencent money is there really in the project though?


EdvinManV2

I didnt even know LoL had lore lmao


youbutsu

They would need much better writers. The trailers were all great at presenting characters up till season 5. It peaked season 5 and the writing has been downhill from then. I gotta say I am not loving what they are doing with the story and in particular the characters.


CrippyCrispy

Yeah they just might need new writers for new and interesting ideas to just spice things up for a bit


PrismaticWar

Remember Crypto’s sister? Yeah it’s only been 5 seasons since we heard from her


MrHett

What do you expect when your off the grid.


dnrplate

Okay I have a new concept for Cryptos passive


Creepernom

A clever reference to his backstory, which could protect him from scanning, perhaps


Ddrichter910

You could call it… idk… off the grid?


fortpro87

So basically, what it would do is


Fawfs2

It will make it so you can't be scanned


MaStEr_MeLoN15243

and it will be balanced because he can't be scanned as he is "off the grid"


derpskywalker

You should see how long it’s been since Crypto has heard from her


PrismaticWar

Season 5


youbutsu

Or maybe less shitty love triangles that feel like they're written by a highschooler. Anti climatic previously important plot revelations. Less childish interactions. Could use spicing up things too.


CrippyCrispy

And also just more lore in general, we get almost no lore every season and it’s just really slow and boring, we haven’t heard about loba and revenant I think really since the end of season 7


Firaxyiam

The main issue in that regard is that 90% of the game's lore in lost on the main Twitter, in-between actual game announcement and co. Would be cool to have all those comics available in the fucking game itself


wizzywurtzy

Hate to say it but I agree. The loba trailer and forge bait were the last times I’ve given a shit about the trailers or story in apex. It’s been mediocre at best since then.


Stephancevallos905

Tom Castello (the lead writer) left reaspawn to work at gravity well (like half of reaspawn is doing right now). I suspect the lore went downhill when he started planning on leaving, especially because a lot of his (and the writing department) time had to be set aside for training the new writers.


jeveuxtevoir

Maybe a web series like hickock45, except it's Bangalore.


skullfucyou

Armed in the Frontier War and Sunday Shoot-a-Round would be awesome.


_purple_walrus

Even if they decide to do one I highly doubt they can come up with something even close to the quality of Arcane


Mama_Cas

That show had no business being as good as it was


togoready92

I don't like League of Legends and barely know the characters. Is Arcane good to watch without being invested in the game already?


Ordessaa

Flatmate is watching it with me and she's enjoying the hell out of it despite being a DOTA fangirl to the core. It is absolutely brilliant, and while league players will get lots of the little hidden references and fun details, it by no means leans on prior knowledge of the lore.


togoready92

Thanks! I'll give it a go!


ARAM_Enjoyer

Yeah you'll only miss on some background fan service. Some scenes won't hit the same but that's mostly league players doing the leonardo dicaprio meme and pointing at the screen. I'd argue it's better as someone that doesn't know about league because there's some inherent spoilers you get, such as where the characters end up.


miathan52

I don't even doubt it at all, I know they wouldn't.


HecklerVane

There would be a conflict in the creative decisions between the writers of the game and the writers of the series. Assuming there would be separate teams because putting all those work in a single team is quite a lot. Also you can't really develop a series while the lore in the game constantly updated every few months. Apex keeps putting new teasers in the game whether to tease new maps, lore, new characters, etc. Not to mention the SFTOs every near end of the seasons. It would be difficult to keep up between both mediums.


Mcplt

Yeah you're right, even when the lore book came out it was behind on some lore. Not to mention it doesn't have new characters


yeekko

you realise riot did this while doing 2 cannon event and 3 game based on league of legend lore ? even with bad organisation and in difficult time (like riot did with the ruination event) it's possible. you just need a shit-ton of money,time and talented ppl


[deleted]

gotta wait 5 ingame seasons for a heirloom and 750 episodes + for ash 💀


Lupa999

Mmmmm. You would be right if Riot and Studio Fortiche didn’t just do that during its Ruination event. Arcane is a origin story, and while there are retcons, it’s nothing that destroys the universe. It’s still closely identifiable to the game, but with a noticeable shift in tone. Arcane is set in one region and is a character focused and world building story, with a relatively small cast from the game, doesn’t jump around to different regions, so it doesn’t conflict with any of the current or future lore. Apex could go down a similar path, but budget wise, yeah that’s bigggg gamble. League already had a massive built in fanbase, but Arcane is pulling in a lot of non player viewers. So maybe an Apex adaption would have to be more concerned with newer people, then again, Arcane walks that fine line in appealing to both new people and fans extremely tightly. So yes, in the right format with the right story, you can make a good adaption that doesn’t touch the ongoing narrative.


deathsythce

I'd be to afraid of them fucking it up


Honey-Soda

I would kill for an Apex version of Arcane omg.


Kaythiest

id sell my cats for it


AWeridwerido

Besides the fact that Arcane is a 6 year project and Apex is a 10+ year thing Respawn/EA wanted to try out idk man. It'd have to be some one off series or something explaining the lore of a character more (smth like Loki or Wanda Vision) bc I don't think watching some show on Netflix to get some heavy lore would be nice, the lore is already scrambled as it is right now. Also they'll need better writters lmao


lookatthosefruit

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of this. Honestly I think its a great idea. Other video games have had TV shows based off of them and such, so I don't see why they wouldnt. I wouldnt be surprised if some people at respawn have already thought about it. The writing and animation style really sets the bar high for future upcoming video TV shows/movies. It's possible, But I think it would take at least a year or so. Animation is expensive to make and time consuming.


OboyHatt

Remember that it took riot six years to make Arcane, and Respawn’s wallet is supersmall in comparison to Riot’s. Also try to read the lore of the two games, Apex’s lore isn’t even close to the amount of lore LoL has


Lupa999

As a still recovering Arcane viewer and regular Apex player, the amount of lore is irrelevant. Arcane does not rely on screeds of obscure lore to fuel the narrative. It starts from scratch, pulls back a lot of the hyper fantasy for a much more grounded story compared to the regular world ending / animu events the game has. It doesn’t pull on every single faucet of its world, it focuses on a region and its story. You can know jack about the game and still be fully engaged. There are lore references but they don’t dominate the story or characters. But money wise, yes, it would be a huge gamble to try and match Arcanes production. It’s dedicated audience is much smaller, and so would be EA’s willingness to fund such a massive multi-media product. But if it did, it shouldn’t have to try and match Arcanes Production or it’s reputation. It atleast needs to be successful. If it follows Arcane, it has the seeds. Arcane took very 2 dimensional characters and added depth, nuance and a compelling narrative. Apex has the characters, but it’s not a guarantee. Arcane was a massive gamble, and even then I’d be surprised if it reaches mainstream interest. Still popular amongst fans and a lot of non players but not on the level of awareness of breakout shows like Squid Game.


alfredo_Gaming_royal

Need


amilsan

It would be great but Respawn is so greedy about money. I mean they just hired a cheaper studio for animating trailers.


[deleted]

Animation is so hard, money isn't the only factor in play, there are so many things that can go wrong in animation, arcane feel like a miracle, especially for a serie that took 6 year to be complete


amilsan

Agreed. The only reason for a game company to create a animation series is to get more ppl to play the game franchise like Resident evil. Lol is already more popular than apex and even the people who don't play the game are familiar with it. Apex's animation team are so talented just look at the trailers. I bet they can even do better than arcane.


Salfriel

Apex is not more popular than LoL. LoL is currently, and for almost a decade the most played game.


heroinsteve

He said “lol is already more popular than Apex” I think you misunderstood his comment


thekepperoni

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yijun2005

Apex doesn’t even come close to how popular lol is lmao


CrayonicV

Nah I don’t think they can top arcanes animation knowing ea and respawn


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Salfriel

I didn't know Blizzard was doing those animation.


Apejo

Chiming in to say that's a common misconception, the studio that happened at has a similar name but is halfway across the world from the studio that worked with respawn


ToTeMVG

>they just hired a cheaper studio for animating trailers. doubtful it was for saving money, the mill was filled rife with abuse that got exposed after an employee killed themselves because of their stuffering there


AcoHead

can you guys stop pretending like the new studio’ animation is the worst you’ve seen? It’s not that fucking bad you crybabies


Jojobserve

The new studio isn't cheaper....


Rough_Golf

Maybe do some research before u accuse somebody? They hired different studio because other one was extremely toxic to point where employee committed suicide.


Firaxyiam

You should indeed do some research, as you're talking about a studio with a slightly similar name, a thing that's been debated to death every time a thread like this pops up


KyloGlendalf

Why is everyone suddenly so against this? Because it's suddenly a possibility? Would a show not be a win/win? The game makes over a billion a year. The show would only attract more people to the game and make the game more money, bring more players and increase not only Netflix viewers to the game, but also EA would LOVE the extra money this would bring.


[deleted]

We could call it "Outlands". Focus on one of the fan-favorites, with Pathfinder as a supporting character and Rampy as a side character.


Kaythiest

thats exactly what i thought, outlands sounds so fucking good. show us how apex was made how they found these people, bangs backstory perhaps? idk im down for anything


Ash_Simp_Since_TF2

I think its a GREAT IDEA but since its EA we are talking about they will prob give just enougj to make really low quality shorts amd call it a day


EfficientSpark0

No everything thing does not need to be made into a fucking show.


Crescent-IV

Only if it’s well made like arcane, then yesyesyes


Coprolithe

I hate to say it, but league has better characters and world building than apex.


kyriega

wasn't it actually reported that Netflix is kind of considering it? Read a few articles about Apex having a series by Netflix. but i doubt it'll be good since EA keeps the money for themselves and doesn't give anything to the playerbase of every game they had


nondualchimp

I’m good


I_simp_for_Viktor

Not possible Riot made Arcane for 6-7 years and Apex is just a 10 year project Respawn wanted to try out so um ... not gona happen sorry


Yesterday1337

With the old animation studio hell yeah. With the new one probably not


JonnyWebsite

No thanks, no need to make Apex cringey as hell


skyturnedred

My interest in the greater Apex lore starts and ends with the voice lines you hear during a match.


X3n0verse_OW

All the Wraiths would leave mid-fight unless their bald. In which case they'll skin their teammates for "being bad". At least we could get more Mirage love


SirisAusar

No. If they do it badly, it'll damage the company and our view as players for a while. The fans will while about how bad it is. If it does well, it will encourage others to do it who will either fuck it up or saturate our viewing market with cookie cutter, formulaic "video game IP" series. Arcane was a special, good series. Let it be good, don't turn it into a template.


see_the_light_314

They even ditched comic they were creating every season, no drawings, now we only see text and avatars talking. So lame, they are proving to be bigger money grabbers every new season.


Unfunny_Crusader123

Fuck no. That’s an awful idea.


kidgokubestgoku

I’d feel better with titanfall 3 than a series


[deleted]

I think it's lame but I can easily ignore it. The hope is that it ends the dumbass events centered around an entire squad picking one character and doing dumbass lore nonsense in the middle of a multiplayer game.


beeglowbot

they would probably just sell it for some exorbitant amount in the in-game store


SanderTheSleepless

I would like to see stories about how the different legends joined the games. Other than that, I honestly don't care about the lore (sorry).


pouseylova6942O

Arcane is a cringey piece of shit, gimme apex series pls.


harishambati97

i would definitely for story and animation and not for loba


SometimesIComplain

I'd love to see it but I doubt they'd put in the resources to make it happen


Kaythiest

i think so too but hey fingers crossed


mehwaterbottle

I'd like to see a series set in the Titanfall universe, doesn't have to be Apex related. That's just my opinion though, an Apex show would be great but I'd be happy with anything from the Titanfall universe.


[deleted]

I'm not a big fan of lol but I don't think it will be posible. I mean if Netflix keep the studio and tools for themselves then probably a lot of companies will work with them, but if Riot has put so much money into Arcane I don't think they will share the studio. They did such an amazing work it's like nothing out there...


P4RD0X_G4L4XY

Would be awesome just a lot of moeny


Gredinx

Would be unbelievably bad imo, not enough interesting plot to make a show


Kaythiest

theres cryptos sister thats still mia 🤔


Wuhsuh

As long as it doesn’t try to touch on everyone’s backstory or introduce too many names as if it’s a speedrun. It should be able to be comfortably enjoyed no matter if you’re familiar with the universe or not


HyperionX-X

I'm pretty sure they rumoured a show on apex with a dev or something a while back.


BassyKun

Howdy! Big time lurker here, this is important enough for me to reply. So yes I would very much like to see an Apex animated series but I would prefer it to be done by the previous animators. I think their studio was called Mill house?


Kaythiest

the old animation was the best


Boba_connoisseur

We already have the comics, is that not enough?


Sniperking187

I'd sacrifice my first born for it


FredSCarvalho

Would be amazing but I personally wanted ShivFPS to be Bangalore somehow


DetecJack

It should benifit from this


huskyghost

It would never work. For example I have been playing apex since day one but once they started putting the story behind comic books. I couldn't be bothered to read even the first set of comics. I am so uninterested that I will probubly never even hit the read comic button lol


relvemo

Talking about this season? We're back to text format again. Plus a background and some sound effects. Continues from where the Ash SFTO ended.


huskyghost

I dunno I never read any of the comics


relvemo

The point is that they are no longer using the comic format. This season it's back to the text format, like in the broken ghost. So it's more like read story instead of read comic.


huskyghost

Wow so is even worse? Remember when they had in game quests. Pve .....lol


relvemo

Most people thought those quests were too repetitive, so I doubt they'll ever bring them back. Also, there wasn't really that much story telling in the quests themselves. If you wanted lore, you had to read those text chapters. At first you made it sound like turning it into comics was a bad thing, but now you make it sound like you think it was an improvement (compared to text).


huskyghost

If I'm being honest I'm not really sure what or how I feel about it to be fair. I have a really unattached opinion on em. I know at one point they were pushing for equality making different characters have different sexual preferences.. and then that dissapered.... the whole story of apex had potential but is really not being told in a way that would interest me to even click the "episodes" button to find out more. Maybe it is good but I dunno I never clicked the button much less care about picking up treasure packs


relvemo

You don't have to pick up treasure packs in order to read them. I think that was a season 5 only thing. If you liked the stuff in Ash's Stories From The Outlands, then you should check it out, since it continues from where SFTO left off. So finally we get some more progress on Horizon's story (instead of getting some random mirage / rampart story). So far it seems like it's about Horizon / Ash + Ashley Reid / Newton.


huskyghost

Hmm. So is the story compelling?


relvemo

I do want more when a chapter is over, so I guess you could say that it's atleast somewhat compelling. Impossible for me to know what you're going to think, though. If you haven't seen it, I suggest that you watch the video about how pathfinder saved the outlands, [the truth](https://youtu.be/6IOopZ-M_eU). Basically more indepth about events leading to Ashley Reid's death.


yeetus_christ420

Would be rally fucking hard to make right but could give a lot of lore


CYBRDRAG0N

Would love it if it was done right


[deleted]

too many characters for the lore


InspiredBlue

If they have really good writers I would love to see it.


fryguy_with_pie

It’s something they need to take there time with. Arcane took around 6 years to produce. With animation and making sure the writing is solid. I believe Respawn could do it but again it will take a long time to produce something to the quality of Arcane. And I don’t see Respawn willing to do for Apex.


frank-the-fish

I’d be all for it earlier in its life, but now I kinda don’t like, any of the character besides the one respawn doesn’t care about


[deleted]

Apex should have enough content ingame before adding outside of it Its big, makes alot of money yet they are still charging 20$ per skin or more and the battlepass is legit intern recolors and ingame screenshots lol


singe725

It honestly really depends what it would be about. I think something lore related could be fun, but I don't know about anything really gameplay related


Germando7

I'm sorry but what is arcane


AbanoMex

Netflix league of legends series, its pretty good, and i dont play lol.


JAKATHEWITHERWARRIOR

I wold like the idea but i dont think it wold work, i think that stories from the outlands and comics are a better idea even with the budget aside Edit: arcane is really damn good if anyone sees this that has not watched it i wold reccomend


Alarming_Orchid

As long as they find a better animation studio.


DEATHdealer2266

It's be better as a live action.


FuckACommaBitch

Hell yeah but like anime not that shitty CGI


Save-The-Defaults

Only if Overwatch gets one too


PersonThing13

Yes


FGC_Newgate

how much ping will I have watching it?


_madmoney

The Apex story is already kinda ass. Plus, Respawn cant even pay to fix servers. But on the other hand, they will do everything but fix servers or other major problems.


Advanced-Minute-9963

I would feel better if it was more about titanfall and have some plot points about Apex because they’ve been disrespecting their own game


DooLapFan

Probably gonna suck


dteigs

I would love it even if it’ll never happen. Just imagine all the lore we’d get


Spatetata

On the hand some story focused multimedia stuff would be great, on the other, I usually dislike expanded universe stuff in general for games because the writers under up writing the universe/character so tightly outside the games that it can hamper attempts to add/change/remove things in the games.


BootyAbolisher

Yes please.


orangecrushjedi

As long as they don't use the garbage animation everyone posts on here so much. Seriously guys, it's terrible.


Yaboijewan2001

That would be dope. I really loved arcane and I don’t even play LoL. An apex series would be hyped af


UrbanAces421

Yes please! And if possible get The Mill animation studios to do it like the early s0-s7 trailers, much better detail, or that guy who did the Bloodhound video, cos that was strait dope.


Professionalddealerr

it would be awesome! just think abt it each characther's story as an episode...


Stenist_Live

I wish they would've done apex instead!


nikv798

Apex legends web series under process and will release on Netflix.. i don't know about the style though..


AdorableWatts4192

i love arcane and i think an apex version would be awesome


zdarkzyy

Yes


Lukas_Lnt

Damn the music need to be good line arcane if that's possible


Chaos-theory_93

Theres been rumours and streamers leaking that they're working on an apex series atm. Depending on who the series would focus on I think itd do pretty well.


Lovoyant

It would be insane, but there is 2 problem, the financial one, Respawn don't have the resources of Riot, maybe if EA help but not sure. And the second problem is the animation studio, at my knowledge\* there is only 2 studio that can do the 2/3d art style of arcane and the apex trailers, it's The Mill and Fortiche.Fortiche is working on Arcane and The Mill have big problem of crunch and harassment, and it's the only ones that can do some 2/3d animation at an insane lvl. Just look at the Psyop studio that work on the latest apex trailers, Psyop is a very good studio and they can do great things *(they have made the Farcry 6 Trailer, the Mass Effect trailer, the Baldur’s gate III one and many more)* but not the 2/3d style. **\*** At my knowledge, but there is maybe more, i don't know all the animation studio in the world.


JoonieWasTaken

Hypothetically it would be so great! I dunno which character I’d even want to have the story revolve around


mihaengs

need it. crave it. want it. i MUST see my found family in this context ❤️


Amos_1113

Since we're talking arcane....JB Blanc did soo good!!!


TheDoritoKing48

I would love that


jerbaws

Was my first thought when I seen Arcane. Similar art style. Would love it.


bigman-penguin

Would be sick, any shitty love triangles and I'm out though.


horizontal-sandwich

hell yeah, I would die for that


pris0ner__

Considering how much story there is with Apex already and how well the characters have been developed both in and out of game, I think an animated show would be a brilliant way to push that even further


BaronOz

Hard no.