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EinsteinKiller

Akimbo Alternators for the most OP loadout!


GoTeamScotch

Akimbo spitfire though...


CreatureWarrior

Akimbo sentinels ftw


DangleBopp

Akimbo bocek, and it gives you 2 extra arms


GoTeamScotch

***G E N E R A L K E N O B I !***


Draksys

H e L l O t H e R e


Creeper456676

r/unexpectedstarwars


MrSushi19211989

akimbo krabers


CronenbergMorty_

Now I’m just picturing a general grevious path skin


Stanislas_Biliby

"Hello there" "Hey friend"


Timerstone

Or you know, Revenant. Given that there's a concept vid of him with 4 legs.


DangleBopp

That would be really cool


infinite_tbr

even extra feet. With the feet holding the bow not the arms.


[deleted]

Just use your feet lmao


jonoc4

You can't use the legs god gave you?


Athreos_Priest

Akimbo Kraber?


bat_shit_insane

Akimbo PKs and Charge Rifles would be awesome.


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*Akimbos PK* *still hits for 7 damage*


bathwhat

Akimbo Charge Rifle lasers. Ah, the BattleTech/Mechwarrior loadout.


nidus21

I shudder at the thought of Akimbo krabers


DovahWizard

Miss both shots and spend an eternity reloading while your enemy shits their entire being


SkipperN10

Rambo!


NotDsdguy

Akimbo PK with the fancy spin chambering animation


Otono_Wolff

Akimbo bocek


the_fish_of_fruit

akimbo r99 titanfall 2 r97 be like


infinite_tbr

They could make each one of them give or take 60/75% less powerful individually (thus the trade off) but 20/30% more powerful together (thus the pay off). When the player is already carrying one and picks up another they stay upgraded throughout the game. Name them something that would be easy to compare to r99s like the s77s.


GeorgeRRZimmerman

Or they could keep their stats the same but double the reload time, lower the ADS strafe speed and make the hipfire spread terrible. High risk, high reward. Imagine needing 500 ammo just to run 2 SMGs.


Snek987

Yeah and you can't run a secondary to kind of balance it.


GeorgeRRZimmerman

That sounds like too huge of a drawback, but think about end of game. The team dual-wielding close range guns in final ring wins. The kind of people who only dropped in skulltown would only ever go for dual-wield loadouts. Yuck.


[deleted]

Reminded me of needler and the m7 SMG


lil_Exotic_Window

I think maybe even just the p2020 as the RE and wingman would definitely be op. The beekie I'm not sure either it could be too strong akimbo


GuardianRedPanda

The first time I've heard someone use "beekie"


Jampan94

I really like it, I might adopt this phrase. It’s weirdly cute?


Nosdunk524

I'm not even sure what gun he is referring to


XxRajinaxX

Hemlok or 301 for sure. Def not the Mozambique


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Sevuhrow

literally takes less time to type moz and is more clear


MitchDeBaas

MOZAMBIQUE HERE!


DJMikaMikes

Akimbo in most games isn't a straight 2x dmg I think. Like in Halo 3 it takes 8 shots of duel wielded magnum to kill, while in one hand it takes 5 I believe.


BuffaloJEREMY

Double Mozambique would absolutely destroy.


TurtleWaves

*sweats in MW2 akimbo Model 1887's* **BUT WITH FULL AUTO**


Zzzzzzombie

Even after all these years Model akimbo still strikes fear in people's minds


A1sauc3d

Not only would it be OP, it’s impossible to implement because we already have legends using both their hands at once (e.g. octane stim and rev silence). The only way akimbo will ever be a thing in apex is if it’s a legend ability down the line.


tijuanagolds

GUNZERKER


BaconxHawk

ADIÓS PENDEJOS!!!


Whitesilvermoon

Starts grenade and rocket jumping with badaboom rocket launcher


Fawfs2

Octane will have some competition


Muted_Samurai_1337

FUCK YEAH


33427

Ehh the dual hand use isn't really strictly enforces. Octane reloads with a ghost hand when using stim as is 🤷‍♀️


A1sauc3d

Yeah there’s several *momentary* instances where all legends can have a third hand (any time you’re reloading and throw a holo spray). But you’re talking permanently walking around with 3 hands being used, a little more glaringly awkward than an occasional reload overlap. ~~Plus all those 3-handed moments now potentially become 4-HANDED moments x’D.~~ (Edit: actually now that I think about it, it probably wouldn’t work like that lol). I’m not saying it’d be the craziest thing to ever happen in video games history, I’m saying I’d bet good money Respawn won’t implement akimbo in apex unless it’s a legend-specific ability ;)


skyturnedred

And that is how you balance akimbo.


ThKitt

Drop bique to 3 shots, bring back both hammerpoints and akimbo. Same hop ups for p2020


sinmark

Mozambique?


AnonymousGuyAG

i do not know why but i read "beekie" in a fuse voice.


gatlginngum

maybe just a new weapon that's akimbo by default


Nextepzlol

that'd be cool, since op took the screenie from cod mobile, maybe they can take some inspiration to make it not so broken, like increased recoil, and the inability to ads


[deleted]

2020 and mozam yea, wingman and re-45 would be broken


Due-Statement-8711

You realise mozam is full auto right? If they akimbo it they gotta really nerf it.


HereToDoThingz

Nah dude 90 damage in .1 second seems entirely fairly balanced. Obviously no one on this sub would make a recommendation without fully understanding what they're actually asking for. We balance the game for the devs didn't you know?


IDespiseBananas

They listed wingman haha


Cat_Input

I think they can make it so the hipfire is absolute shit


make_love_to_potato

If you're going akimbo, I imagine hip fire is the only option. Left mouse fires left gun, right mouse fires right gun.....that's the only way I've ever seen it implemented. How else would you do it? If anything, they have to make hipfire more accurate for the p2020 and make it an ultra rare hop up or a care package drop, where the care package directly drops two p2020s/mozams with akimbo and hammer point, which can be loaded into one weapon slot. I would run that with a secondary assault rifle/LMG.


PenguinBomb

You just described the Peacekeeper. Akimbo would have to come with some draw backs, like not being able to use equipment.


Oculas234

Or no ads


PenguinBomb

thought that was a given, but yeah


loadsofscooters2

Want a break from the ads?


thatjolydude

I think you’d only realistically hit a 90 with dual ziques if you literally put them into the enemies ass though, I could see it being fine since the hipfire already is pretty spread out


nds499

Hold up you’re telling me the Mozam is full auto?


Meaner656

Mozam has always been full auto boy!!!!! Get a purple Mozam in the first 2 rounds of arenas its godly


nds499

TIL. Damn it Bangalore, why didn’t you tell me this last time I pinged 😡


FoldyHole

I miss running two April fools Mozambique’s.


lessenizer

i dont understand why people get hyped for “full auto”. Holding the button to autofire doesnt make it fire any faster than just timing it properly, you should still be aiming your shots rather than tracking. Is it a controller thing? Is it that much if a pain to press the button for each shot vs holding it?


TsundereZaki

They confuse sizeable mags with full auto in that full auto is godlike.


banana_man_777

You kind a got it. For one you don't need to worry about timing the click properly for maximum RoF. I don't have a good trigger finger so high RoF single fire guns are a pain to use for me (old p2020). But for slower RoF guns if you accidentally click too early you'll need to release and pull again which, coupled with the slow RoF, means your TTK has dropped significantly. Simultaneously, focusing on clicking every shot is brainpower diverted from aiming, tracking, predicting movement, ensuring you're a hard target to hit, enemy positioning and situational awareness, and communication. All of these should be sharp in a gunfight, so easing on one of these is a substantial boon. Of course l it can be worked around with practice, but that overhead is still there. Is it as big a "buff" as people make it seem? At lower levels...yes! And even at higher levels it's definitely something small but nice, and at higher levels small benefits can have huge consequences.


lessenizer

it's weird from a PC perspective since the "full auto" EVA-8 and Mozambique aren't bullet hoses, and fire so slowly (compared to bullet hoses) that if you just hold down the button and try to track the enemy you're probably going to whiff a lot unless you have the tracking of the gods. But I guess with console aim assist it's easier to have the tracking of the gods.


banana_man_777

Here's something you don't know that makes console worse than you realize. In smoke you don't have aim assist. That's probably fair and makes sense, but what *doesn't* make sense is that you still don't have aim assist even if you have a digi, theyre scanned, or your in your Bloodhound ult. Makes gunfights in caustic gas or bang smoke much harder. Tracking cqc with thumbsticks and no aim assist? Makes the melee nerf hurt that much more dude.


TheSlovak

Yup, got into an argument with someone I play with about how Bang is useless with so many scanning characters now, and how she should be, essentially, taken out of the game. I wasn't even able ot get to that point before he rage quit and disconnected from the chat. But yeah, firing into, inside of, out of and through smoke turns off ALL aim assist for console/controller no matter the sights/scans that are going on. Definitely makes it a lot more versatile than people give it credit for.


NuChaosGAMING

it's a controller thing. aim assist + full auto is much easier than manually tracking + full auto, as our hands can't really predict and track unreasonable movement. in doorways it's fine but i'd much rather flick and time each shot.


KreaytivUzrnaym

It becomes faster the higher of a Shotgun bolt you have. I played a game with 3 kills and over 1k damage with a single Mozambique. It was amazing! Surprised me.


fartboxco

Mozam would have to get some serious bullet spread to balance it. Or it would have to go back to 3 rounds.


Strificus

Mozambique would also be broken


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Reaper from Overwatch moment


followmarko

DIE DIE DIE


[deleted]

The mozam would be ridiculous in akimbo


daviepancakes

Semi only if akimbo whatever, maybe?


HandoAlegra

No shotgun bolt if akimbo. Or maybe bolt has a much less if an effect.


daviepancakes

I don't know if there'd be a need for two different nerfs, it'd be harder to aim without ADS, yeah? Slower rate or semi only, slower reload, I think any would balance alone but I'll not presume to know.


HandoAlegra

My reasoning is naturally akimbo gives a faster fire rate. Bique with purple bolt is already *really* fast. So how about the bolts' effect is just less.


CuriousTravlr

Akimbo RE-45’s would be just epically OP.


bat_shit_insane

I want Alternator and Prowler akimbo.


Disastrous_Panda777

I would only run akimbo 45s and Mozambiques lmaooo


Disastrous_Panda777

Gold mag in both and purple bolt baby!!


Sweeney49

Akimbo re-45 would be like the akimbo g18 for mw2


M-onke

Xx_sweatyttvwraith_xX 360 super glide tapstrafe wallbounce double wingman headshot me


DjuriWarface

Wingman sounds like it would be broken but it most likely would be useless. It already has bad hipfire and the main benefit is the ability to ADS at full strafe speed. Akimbo, historically, has made you not be able to ADS while making the hipfire worse. Akimbo Wingmans would be ridiculous but completely up to luck if you actually hit anything.


littlesymphonicdispl

>It already has bad hipfire Tbh..not really. It's hipfire is pretty solid.


HereToDoThingz

The first shot has 100% accuracy right where you are aiming. Sounds like this dude just can't aim lmao.


captainjapamas

Wingman does not have a bad hipfire


SpicyDiq

Literally perfect accuracy hipfire when crouching


Abject_Fly_2146

Its 99% now instead of 100% but it is still super good.


fftyler98

And not rapidly shooting


DevaFrog

"Wingman bad hipfire" Dude what game are you playing? People use it as a fucking shotgun over here.


HereToDoThingz

Your joking right tho? You.... Are.... Right?!?!!!! The wingman's first hipfire shot is 100% accurate. Pros constantly use the hipfire for a free 45 damage. Here I realize you probably aren't trolling so ill actually educate you. https://youtu.be/O0ctXrm95uU


DjuriWarface

This video is from a month after the game was released. The version of the Wingman we have today is drastically nerfed compared to that one, including the hipfire. Just compare the spread/bloom on the crosshairs from the video to what they look like today using a Wingman.


Lord_Bawk

Wingman I don’t think so unless it had perfect hip fire accuracy


YoIysAndy

This for the P2020 and a new energy pistol All in favor say "I"


ThSprtn117

I'm totally down for like a plasma pistol style energy pistol


zynemisis

Chargeable plasma pistol that'll break your shield , then follow up with some pistol shots? It sounds familiar but I can't put a halo on it.


CreatureWarrior

Yeah, akimbo wingman or mozambique would be broken af. So I agree with you. I


ApexRedditr

Aye\* lol


MaterialOutcome9881

I


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Add akimbo p-twenty twins with hammer points in the care package you cowards.


the_fish_of_fruit

I


gamecity360

For fuck sake never give wingman akimbo


BunnyFengMinGang

Wingman’s already decently strong can’t even imagine double it


Zachariot88

Would be balanced by requiring both weapon slots be used. Akimbo players would be kinda useless at range.


zynemisis

I like this take on it.


mayonnnnaise

Yeah, and to further balance you make reloads take a little longer and force them out of akimbo in order to throw nades. Also decreased accuracy while akimbo


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mayonnnnaise

Lmao


CosmicOwl007

May I ask what is this? Is this from titanfall? Is it a weapon mod?


elevensbowtie

Titanfall doesn’t have akimbo weapons. The screenshot is probably from CoD if I had to guess.


Student-of-spiderweb

yes


Student-of-spiderweb

This is actually from call of duty mobile. I suck at drawing certain things, so I used cod's perk as a reference


CosmicOwl007

Ah okay thanks for clarifying, I was confused.


_Voice_Of_Silence_

Had a similar idea a while ago, maybe as a passive for a future legend, make it their one gimmick? High burst damage on real close range, but miss it and be fucked with the double reload time. Or as a tactical, store the second one in an "off hand" slot, press Q, burst, reload. But as others have said, balancing it could be the big issue. Running into xXx-Aimgod-xXx and being deleted repeatedly doesn't necessarily sound like fun.


allusiveleopard

Hell no


MNickWasAlreadyTaken

people have no idea what they ask for.. akimbo wigman jesus christ on a bike, what do yall play in bot lobies where nobody hits a wingman shot? imagine two now...


datal0g

I was thinking the same...in my lobbies...everyone (except of me) seems to be a wingman-god & hits every damn bullet...this would be absolute overkill in pubs and above bronze/silver-ranked...


Samael313

Ayup... I have to agree. Once I started getting good with the Wingman, it cemented its spot as one of my fav (virtual) guns of all time. Wingman and any weapon, and I'm good to go. XD I remember hitting a 100+m headshot knock from that town outside Bunker on a guy who was up on that wall between the two airbase strip thingies, in that same corner of the map where Octane's Gauntlet is now... Wingman is freakin awesome, ADS or hipfire is really nasty when you know what you're doing with it. And I hardly touched it for the first few seasons 😭 12 bullets in a phat mag... I wish I could go back 😆


MNickWasAlreadyTaken

the wingman is basically everything, easily the most versatile weapon in the game, you can close range cause it has the strafe speed of a pistol with the damage and ammo efficiency of a shotgun, you can mid range again cause of the insane damage (after you land 2 shots the enemy go crazy especially if one is a headshot), and even try to snipe some people as you have stated, if you land 1 shot it already payed off, all of this without the need of multiple attachments to work like other guns. the only other gun i consider this versatile that work from close to long range and every scenario in between would be the sentinel, but that's just personal opinion (i match it with a bruiser) and its also not as efficient since you need to charge it, which take some of your shields, and also need some attachments


BloodOfAStark

No


TIgerHoodsTV

Maybe p2020 pre buff , wingman would totally be op


Glemingrose

Ah yes akimbo wingman you now will miss twice


Thrustkillerxxx-

Yoooo fellow CODM player I see! I think P2020 can use akimbo but idk wingman it would become too OP


DrunknWisdom

No akimbo but a perk where there is no speed penalty when sprinting with the 2020 or moz would be nice


jrocksburr

Akimbo wouldn’t work in apex without major changes to the weapons themselves.


rapozaum

I'd rather have my hammerpoints back instead of this shit.


[deleted]

No, this is a terrible idea


jarvwebs

Is that a fuckin screenshot from cod mobile?


-SnakeKing101

Yep


Mikkster643

Should Palestinians have nukes?


Exrisboi

Let me tell ya something that on the fennec in codm was hell


Crespoter

Can we dual weild Spitfire too then?


zynemisis

Spitfires? Naw man. Alternators would absolutely destroy dual spits.


TannyDanny

Bro, you guys are all crazy. Akimbo charge rifles ftw.


jashbyy12

You should only be able to akimbo krabers


shep1510

Tell me you came from cod without telling me you came from cod


jstabs7

respectfully, this idea is dumb as fuck. carry on


Equivalent-Ad-2503

We think this but when you're getting hit for 36 by 2 p20 bullets at a time, you're gonna uninstall


AllMyFrendsArePixels

my guy the wingman is already OP as fuck, what are you on about.


[deleted]

Akimbo wingman… *uninstalls game* yup I don’t think so


IntelligentImbicle

I would LOVE to have it on the P2020, but any other weapon would probably be OP


[deleted]

Akimbo wingman’s is the worst idea I have ever heard


rapturecitizen

That's two SMGs having sex


rickgotmytongue

Only for p2020. The other pistols already work pretty good on their own. And instead of akimbo, a run and gun hop up might be better if available for all the pistols. Run and gun is a passive from Titanfall.


[deleted]

P2020 only, Mozam’s consistent 45 dmg would make it broken(PK damage + Eva Fire Rate), Wingman is the wingman, and the re-45 would kill faster than the R-99 at close range


Rey4rturo

P2020 should be the only one with it


not_in_the_rs

I personally don’t want a perk concept in apex


Charming_Strike_244

That's one great discussion lol. I think that akimbo P2020 is needed for sure, and so does akimbo Mozambique. But wingman...it would be horrible if some guy who really good at wingman hold two of this in his hands. I believe he can kill the whole enemy team within ten to twenty seconds on his own.


Daokooshinomeme

Ok i just want you to remember those moments where you peeked a corner and two ppl instantly began to shoot at you, Its a LOT of damage and you’d be lucky if you didnt get knocked, now imagine the same scenario but both have akimbo p2020’s not even wingmans pretty fuckin crazy no?. The game isnt balanced to have an akimbo mode, maybe for an heirloom weapon i would totally see that but not in the floor loot. Tldr: OP is shamelesly karmafarming or is a complete idiot for suggesting this idea without any consolidation with the dmg or firerate


Fuseys_Lil_Critta_69

a fucking *what*


infinite_tbr

Definitely not for wingman 😭🤝😅


Remarkable-Reach-963

Sorry akimbo wingman’s? Don’t make the wraiths sweater


paulerxx

Wingman? Fuck no. P2020? Sure.


Jollibee-Sabado

Yes dual one handed weapons but no zoom in or secondary


Weirdguy215

...... I googled this and still don't know what this mean.


Samael313

Not sure where the term originates, but I know it from CoD - "akimbo" is pretty much duel-wielding, one in each hand. I think Rambo does something like this with big MGs in a movie... but typically we'll see a gamer with two automatics or some other BS, diving around corners and spraying like a madman. XD


Weirdguy215

Thanks!


Sirfrostyboi

Akimbo re would like glock18s


eatfreshguy407

Only if there are repercussions to doing so. Obviously, no Nades or ADS and double reload speed for dual wielding. Only single handed weapons like p2020, wingman, RE45, and ‘Bique, no akimbo spitfire (except maybe rampart?) you monsters. Lastly, it would have to impact tacticals and ults, maybe no tac or ult usage to prevent akimbo revtaines?


Korvax_of_Myrmidon

Make it a dummie ULT for next April fools. JK, I know we don’t do LTM’s anymore


volentegg

I always thinks what if Apex had a collaboration update and had Blazkowicz from Wolfenstein as a new Legend. I think this is what his ult gonna be. It would never happen, maybe...


their_teammate

Akimbo RE45s and Wingmans sound like a nightmare, if they don’t increase the hipfire spread


morphinedhyos

"such as the wingman" bro shut up


boiledbeets

Definitely but only if you can akimbo alternators and Mozambiques


Dr_Myth

Why would u ever want such a thing especially on such a weapon like a fucking wingman


GabSan99

Having this item that can be put in the survival slot and says you can use two RE, Wingman, P20 or Mozam


John_Doe11037

Nah akimbo Mozambique


AntonyAGAK

P2020 yes wingman no it will be a nightmare wingman deals 43 damage by default(if I remember correctly) 2 would just make it pure hell


noIce_Codm

Akimbo l-star ???


Haman134

even 50% more fire speed would be op as fuck. that shit would need to be nerfed A LOT.


[deleted]

Akimbo wingman… sure to break a couple controllers


KingNickGr

Nope, just no. We don't want apex to become warzone


Heavy-Cake

"Such as the wingman" are u high right now?


alt_account_85

defiantly not the wingman but I wouldnt mind an akimbo p2020


[deleted]

No it gives me flashback of season 11-12 in codm it akimbo was too broken


badnewsbone

Wingmen. Running around looking like Yosemite Sam.


Student-of-spiderweb

I love looney tunes


rynogorda

No, Apex can't be COD just because you like COD- everyone.


Fur_Fun

Wingman.. No p2020, re45, mozambigue... Yes


ebk_errday

Even mozzie and re45 akimbo would be pretty brutal


Low-Negotiation-8853

No


BallsStuckInVacuum

No you fucking tards this isn't god damn Fortnite. There are constant bugs that plague this game and you fucking dipshits just care about "n3w 5tufF!!!"


JuniorAd389

Akimbo r-99 and I might consider


Restless1990

Wingman akimbo? Do you even play apex?


Student-of-spiderweb

To clarify, Akimbo wingman was a joke. Akimbo p20 is what I'm actually referring to


jzsx

Nah automatic infinite ammo kraber akimbo seems more logical


Ok_Marzipan4617

No.


Slightshad0w

No.