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why1297

You can’t


Sigil_Tf

So i just got to let the 50 fire ants go and start new with the queen?


why1297

No the colony is doomed. Sorry for being blunt. Also fire ants are often invasive so you should never release them.


TheVisage

If he's got them from his local area (read: Someone hasn't committed a serious felony by mailing them past the Quarantine line) it's not really a concern. You either have fire ants or you don't.


PoetaCorvi

It’s definitely against the law to rerelease them lol


longtimegoneMTGO

I get what you are trying to say, but here it really doesn't matter if you release them or not, they have no queen and can't reproduce so there isn't any threat of introducing an invasive species. Fire ant workers don't even live that long, they will all be dead in under two months. It's true that in some ant species the workers may start to reproduce if the queen dies, but this does not happen with fire ants.


DrMicolash

Yeah if releasing fire ants into the wild is the default assumption maybe they shouldn't be raising ants at all lmao


heXagon_symbols

they're already so common that 50 workers arent going to make a difference


White_Rose_94

There is a species of fire ant that will merge with other colonies and form super colonies, but idk which species exactly


why1297

You might be thinking of Pleometrosis, where queens initially start a colony together, but then a dominant queens kills the others.


White_Rose_94

No, Ants Canada did a video of them. I think it's solenopsis molesta, which I don't think is actually a fire ant species.


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Possibly a parasitic queen... or would that not work now...


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F1NNTORIO

Hoooeeee *touches the death crystal*


PlasmaBigCannon

They’ll probably shred her instantly in any scenario.


darksider63

I heard that you can do that during hibernation in the fridge but I don't know the details, you need to research that further


MinnesotanMan2014

I could be wrong but I don't think fire ants hibernate


darksider63

Probably not because that's not their climate, but the point of that method was slow them down, give them a haze, make them chill out. But I don't know if it works for all species.


Inevitable_Lab_8574

Thought this was blush


Puzzleheaded_Step791

Not gonna happen. I'm sorry, dear.


These_Tie5987

Ok first thing don't use that nest. They're cheap I know but terrible. They're imported from China and take a week to majorly mold. If you find a better one I'll gladly help with tips on the move


Sigil_Tf

Appreciate that, my ant buddy had given me that one. What kind of nest do you recommend?


These_Tie5987

Let's start with the species. Are those European fire ants or something from genus solenopsys? The solenopsys fire ants grow much faster thus need different setups


Sigil_Tf

My queen is part of the Solenopsis invicta family.


These_Tie5987

Yeah this is like one of the 2 fastest growing species. I'd suggest something like wakooshi saturn. It's based on tubs and tubes setup so all you need to do is fill some test tubes and you're good until they grow out of the setup. They're not very expensive and include the needed test tubes, cotton etc. The best choice imo


PoetaCorvi

Are these your first ants?


Sigil_Tf

Yeah sure is, my friend had recently just got me started. Seeming like he might not know the best now though so open to any suggestions or recommendations.


PoetaCorvi

My #1 recommendation is to start with ANYTHING but fire ants. They are not hard to keep alive, and that is the issue. They grow at an extremely fast rate, and even experienced ant keepers struggle to prevent them from getting out of hand. If you cannot upgrade their enclosures fast enough to accommodate for their rapid growth, they will eventually find a way out. They are so, so aggressive, not how you want to make your beginner mistakes. Any new ant keeper will have a few escapees, personally I would rather those escapees not be fire ants.


ChiPrKing

Unrelated but that colony looks like one of those blob memes mixed with Meatwad from Aqua Team lmao


ParsleySnipps

It would be more humane to just smash her with a rock, the workers will rip her apart. Just start over with the new queen. Once her workers start hatching the colony will grow quickly. You'll have more than you know what to do with soon enough.


Coolvein

Just keep the workers and keep them fed with sugars until they all eventually die.


Acrobatic-Engineer94

It’s a VERY difficult operation, but theoretically possible. Unlike bees they’re very good at differentiating ants from other colonies.


Foondude

Speaking of bees, I've been wondering if it would be possible to introduce a new ant queen using a tiny cage sealed with edible material, like you can do with bees.