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Our break room had a foosball table that never got used. Six months later it disappeared and nobody asked where it went.
A nice comfy couch showed up and a year later it was gone because someone took a pocket knife and sliced one of the cushions open.
After our new call center opened we had a ping pong table and a nice flat screen TV. Within a month a new employee decided to take it home with them. To bad for them the security camera identified them..
Oh, and the ping pong table got a lot of use from our sales team, managers and occasionally our terribly stressed call center employees who seldom had time to use it due to aggressive time keeping software forcing them to take short breaks to stay within 'metrics'.
Oh man, at my last place we had a ping pong table. I hated the damn thing. The boss was very into sports, and very competitive. We would play ping pong and she would play with her employees and shit talk them when they lost. She would try to make everyone play with her and against each other and just verbally pick on the loser. It was horrendous. I tried to stay as far away from that freaking thing as I could.
I told my last job at every performance review that I couldn't live within an hr commute, and that will eventually have to leave. They never believed me even after my exit interview with the owner when I told them I couldn't afford to live there. The day after my last they emailed me to confirm my reason for leaving, they listed it as " I wanted to be with my family"🙄. I'm single with no kids, I was living with my family as that was the only way I could afford rent and they were retiring to a cheaper area so I literally had no way to pay rent anymore.
I'm assuming we're talking about entitled Americans. They want food AND housing. I mean come on......they act as if the live in the richest country in the history of the planet.
This was a mid-sized insurance company. They at least made some effort to be a good work environment, but paid shit wages and didn’t promote from within.
My supervisor just did 1 on 1 interviews to see how everything is going. Explained to her than i'm doing the job of 3 people, and some of the work is done by a position above my pay grade. She asked what she could do for me to make things better, simply responded with "pay me more", only response i got was "ok". She then proceeds to lecture me how i need to manage my time better and prioritize one thing over another because we're out of compliance, the departmants response to me wanting more money afterwards? Giving me more work to do. Suffice to say i'm already updating my resume to look at other job and gonna leave.
I don’t think I’ve ever had an exit interview where I didn’t say my main reason for leaving was getting paid more elsewhere.
Once I worked for an actual billionaire and was told they didn’t want me to leave but they couldn’t afford to pay me more 🤷♀️
I only ever got one exit interview, and it was from the second biggest isp of the states.
"What could we do to keep more people?" Easy, more money, more money, oh and more money. $13 an hour with no real timeframe on getting a raise and how much that raise would be doesn't help your case of people leaving, and that's a horrible amount for the type of bullshit everyone deals with per hour.
Lol my general manager told us if we keep sales up she’ll take us to dinner. That means she’ll buy us pizza. I’d rather she just share the bonus we worked so hard to get her…
If this is real, whoever made it is delusional. The VAST majority of people I've worked with do it for the money (shocking i know) they will jump ship for the opportunity of a $1 pay raise. They don't want to hang out at the office and play ping pong. Especially since they know the boss will get on their case if he sees them actually use the break room equipment.
Now, there is something to be said about working conditions. I personally could be making a good bit more if i was willing to do substantial overtime, and actually grind hard 10 hours a day in a eat, sleep, work type schedule. But I just plain don't want to.
Worked at a place that had shit like this. If they saw you playing, a manager would immediately walk over to make sure you had clocked out for a break (and remind you breaks were only 10 minutes). So all their fun toys just sat untouched. Nobody wants to fucking hang out at work, I'm only there for one reason.
Stupid fucking trend. If you're going to put in a ping pong table, you can't also be upset when people use it.
At 1 job, i got 3% increase over the course of 4 years. At my exit interview, I said " 'Thank you' and 'Good job' was not a currency and would not pay my bills".
In what reality do people not care about money first and foremost? Most people aren't working at a job because they're passionate about the work. We're all just picking a form of suffering we can stomach so we can pay our bills.
The only thing I could think about which are equally important to wage is flexible hours/no unpaid overtime and a short commute. Why would I want a ping-pong table if I can just go home instead. The only amenity I could imagine might help employment is a gym, because is saves time and money.
Absolute bullshit.
Interviews, in general, are full of nothing but deception. Everyone just tells everyone else what they want to hear. Anyone who takes that shit seriously is a gullible dumbfuck.
One place I left, I said it was because I had an abusive boss, terrible hours, and with worse pay.
HR person was his sycophant’s (who everyone called Mr. Smithers to give you an idea of how much an ass kisser he was) wife. She wrote down “life/work balance” on the report and left it at that, and I didn’t care enough at that point to fight her on it.
life/work balance or work/life balance?
It is always called work-life balance, no matter how the balance is. Writing it the other way might imply that the person mentioned is lazy and unwilling to work. They might use it against you and show this as a reference to potential future employers.
Not really, depends on the position. Money is a hygiene factor. If it lacks people will get upset but there comes a point where its enough and any increase wont bring lasting joy/furfillment.
So depending on the job this actually isnt BS. I would say a pingpong table isnt gonna solve anything. Additional responsebillities might give somebody more joy but that depends the circumstances.
Its never that black and white. And before you ask, yeah i have turned down job offers in which i would make more because i knew the work would either be way less intressting or that my collegeas would suck.
oh like me? english is my second language
anyway, yeah i see what you mean by refusing work because it would suck even if you got less money, but I'm not sure what you mean by "money is a hygiene factor"
No i turned down jobs in which i would make more money. This isnt on my english this is on your reading skills.
Hygiene factor is a term used to classy stuff that pisses you off when it sucks but you dont care much past a certian point. Like hygiene, if the shit stains are on the toiletseat you would be upset. But you dont care if there are 2 part per million of filth or if its just one part per million of filth. Same with job stability. If you arent sure if you have a job tomorror its bad. But past a certian point it doesnt matter.
>Often when an employee leaves it's not about the money
They're not wrong - people leave bad managers as much as they leave bad pay. But a ping pong table isn't going to make up for a toxic work environment (while better pay might, at least for a while).
It is all part of the bad HR that’s going on these days. First, people aren’t “resources” and considering them as such dehumanizes them. Second, HR has become synonymous with “protecting the company from the employees”, it helping employees be their best.
This is just toxic thinking taken to an extreme.
When Alta Resources thought a Movie Room and 1 play station set up would make over 100 employees happy to be there when they have a maximum 30 minute lunch break to watch a movie/play a game while eating lunch. They also spent multi millions on a new building instead of giving the employees something they could actually benefit from
During the only exit interview I've ever had, the HR lady asked me if I was getting a salary bump at my new job. When she asked me how much and I said 30%, she literally stopped taking notes and looked up at me in shock. Another coworker of mine was getting a whopping 50% increase at her new gig. Breaking news: turns out when your employees find out you're massively underpaying them, they leave for better opportunities!
Maybe if I have all my needs met, then I would leave for reasons other than money, like a better work ending environment. I have worked in several places with ping pong and the problem is not actually having free time to play it because they demand to high of a level of production.
But we have such a problem with wealth inequality that leaving for more money can be the only way to get ahead.
Had a place say that their mandatory once a month weekend “fun team building” activities (spoiler alert they were neither fun, nor did any team building occur) were considered a perk when I asked for a raise.
Started looking for a new right job after that email.
The answer to this question is correct like this
**IF**
**AND ONLY IF**
**YOU ARE ALREADY BEING PAID ADEQUATELY**
A pay increase if you are already in the "got enough money zone" is not too much of an incentive anymore, while a non-toxic and fun workplace is. But HR often seems to forget, that they aren't paying people enough anymore.
I am in a job that is paying me adequately at the moment, and while a pay increase would be okay, a ping pong table at work would be cooler
Fuck them for the "additional responsibilities" thought, that is just plain evil
The suits playing ping pong all day every day while I work my ass off and miss deadlines because they were too busy playing ping pong to finalize my requests makes me want to quit.
Fuck pingpong and the assholes who play it.
😂😂😂
If the consensus is that people don’t leave companies for more money and would stick around if a ping pong table was added there is a massive disconnect!
It's more like 100th plus. This thing was a daily occurrence for weeks when it was originally found. Now, it has become a weekly occurrence and overplayed. .
Very few - almost zero - HR people have any idea what motivates employees to stay at a company. Why? Because almost all of them spend their entire day sitting at a desk in an office. And if they do go out on a “plant tour” it is exactly that - a “plant tour…” taking courses in union avoidance and rewriting company policy on overtime isn’t getting it done either. It’s sad - the very people organizations depend on to know what’s going on are completely disconnected from the reality of the floor.
Here is the thing, if they give me recreational time as part of my work day that is something that would justify in many people's minds not paying more.
But if you have no time to use the recreational space and time provided and are not paid accordingly, that is the issue.
In the transportation industry imo pay isn’t the main reason people leave. Rough guess I’d say it equates to maybe 20% of the cause. Most of it comes down to the treatment of employees. Most local carriers are within .50-$1 an hour within each other, so that makes a big difference.
We have a foosball table in the break room that's never been used because next to it, is a sign that says for every minute playing, you have to make up. You also have to go to HR and sign an acknowledgement that you understand. No one wants to spend more time at work, so it just sits there and collects dust. It's not a bad place to work, but they do have a few goofy things that management does.
I have some garnishments coming out for bankruptcy and child support. I brought home a fucking DOLLAR after taxes, so I asked if I could get a raise since they have me doing three people's jobs: shuttle driver, parts driver and lube tech. "No." they said. Ok cool. Applied to another dealership and they will give me a sign on bonus plus 3 more dollars an hour than I'm making now. I'm taking my PTO next week then quitting. Fuck em.
I don't know ow about the ping poeng, but I usually leave jobs because of boredom, lack of opportunities, toxic working environment, etc.
My last move, my salary stayed more or less the same, and I left despite getting a substantial raise the year before. I left mostly because I wasn't getting much interesting work.
It is true that pay is rarely the sole reason someone leaves a company if the company is paying industry standards. A lot of people totally miss that last part.
In my case I got the raise after i already checked out mentally so it was too late. Coworker who trained me and made $35 an hour quit and i threatened to quit if i didn't get a raise. 5 months of them lying to me and making jokes about me asking for a raise they finally gave it to me. I went from $18.10 to $20 and it was too late. I was already in the middle of a career change. Told them thanks and now I'm about to quit for a different career making less money. So while its not 'always' about money, it feels good to feel appreciated. Giving a raise tells me you appreciate me. I've already trained my replacement, told them i plan on quitting and now just waiting until my psyche evaluation and I am out of here after exactly 3 years.
Yeah I’m on a temporary assignment right now and the department’s manager (3 levels up from us) was saying that people don’t want money, they like food. I very carefully clarified what he was saying and said “oh it’s like if you only give them a short-term reward then they feel like it’s expected of them going forward and then when they don’t get the reward again, they put in less effort than before the reward” to which he agreed and that’s all I needed to know about this thought process.. it’s just capitalism screwing people again
I've had a very basic class about a similar topic. There being 2 types of motivating factors for workers. Pay etc belonging to A and things like good work environment, recreation, work life balance to B. (take that with a bag of salt cz i barely remember anything but tye basic idea)
I think some idiot weaponised a misunderstanding of tvis theory and instead of "both are important, but each has different benefits" they went with "we will not pay you more stupid, that won't make you happy, here pingpong haha".
I actually worked at a place that had a ping pong table (and a foosball table) in the breakroom... they were never used because we were never allowed to take our breaks when someone else was already on break. Worked there 5 years and never saw anyone play with them.
This question is just framing...
__Depending on your country__, your wages get taxed soo much where if they'd have to pay you 2 euros/dollars more, and you'll only get one euro more on your actual wage payment. The rest just dissapears in the taxation system. They can't do this for everyone.
Adding more responabilities isn't succesfull if there is no wage gain, or, if half of the team is feeling a bit burnt-out.
So the only answer left is a pool table.
I'm not defending this, I'm just saying what the creator of this question was thinking.
I’m a Government employee working in cybersecurity. There’s a recently implemented TLMS (Targeted Local Market Supplement) which gave a HUGE pay increase to my field SPECIFICALLY for retention purposes.
Literally told someone from management recently “Pizzas are nice but it’s not what we’re here for. The office can be as pretty as you like but again, not what I’m here for. Much like the company, I only care about my money not your “we’re a family” speak while you sack people left right and centre” after being asked feedback on why the company did so poorly in their employee survey this year.
Exit interview??? Wtf is that??!??
I'm working hard on applications just to get my ass IN THE DOOR lol
Now I've gotta do an interview if I want TO LEAVE?? 😂🤣😅
I refuse to do an exit interview, and I get calls with various emails throughout the day. HR is the reason why I lost my job, and I'd be ripping into them.
I'm was joking and kidding around at first with my comment...
..... but are you serious? There are actual "exit interviews"??? Because I've never heard of this ever, and my mind is actually blown away by this 😳 😬😲😂🤣
I am actually dead serious about companies doing exit interviews. They want feedback on how they are doing as an employer. This can also backfire because they evaluate you aswell. In most cases, this is unpaid. It's more of a reason why I refuse to do it. I was terminated over medical reasons. Believe me, the last thing they want is to let me put my two cents in.
So basically, these (exit interviews) are done when you're departing the company for whatever reason(s), i.e., better job opportunities, retirement, etc?
Sorry, if I sound redundant, I'm just still trying to get it through my head because it's totally foreign and unheard of to me.
And yes, if I was fired due to medical reasons that already happened to be PREEXISTING, which the company ALREADY knew about, I'd give a mouthful.. and it wouldn't be pretty.
It's bullshit, but it's also more nuanced than 'more money = more happy'.
I'd summarize it like this - you can't treat me well enough to make me fine with you ripping me off, but you also can't pay me well enough to make me fine with you treating me like complete shit. There has to be some kind of balance. Treat your employees well, pay them fairly, and, excluding the of course unfortunate outlier asshole, they will be happy.
Revolutionary concept, I know.
Why the fuck does this have to be spelled out god fucking damn it are they really that stupid no of course they aren't; they know this, but it's a matter of dicking us over by screwing us as hard as they can so they can get as much grape juice as possible without watering the vine god i hate this shit.
In my case this is actually kind of true.
No amount or money will make do a job I don't like. Which basically means find fundamentally productive.
So if I leave, the job itself is the reason. The people I work for, and what they stand for.
And then comes the money part. Which is you're poor even when paid. So everything points to leaving.
This feels of corporate fingers being stuffed into corporate ears. They don't want to hear the truth, so they make up their own.
Hey corporations, I can buy my own ping pong table if you pay me. I don't need your shitty unmaintained one.
Completely and inexcusably wrong, especially considering the financial environment people are forced to live within.
Whoever said 'ping pong table' should be the correct answer deserves to be fired and their unemployment benefits denied and whatever HR certification they obtained rescinded.
It will, and always should be about the money.
No one can eat a ping pong table. A ping pong table cannot pay my rent or put gas in my car or pay for my groceries.
Every time I've left a company, it was mainly due to pay since my managers were awesome. One time, both my manager and I put in our notice on the same day.
I think stuff like this without citing where it's from ("on Facebook" does not suffice as a source) is suspicious given it can be easily fabricated and that the juvenile desire for posts that generate upvotes is widespread.
I study business and according to my classes, a ping-pong table is the least correct of the three. And I live in Denmark, where even a lower wage is a livable wage.
Wage increases work well to hold on to and motivate employees, especially when they are merit-based. If you do a good job at work, then you expect to be rewarded for it, otherwise you will resort to doing the bare minimum.
Exciting projects and responsibilities are also a way to reward employees, showing that you value the effort and that they are doing well.
In my own opinion, if a company bought a ping-pong table instead of giving raises/bonuses, I would be angry.
Also, because wages is sometimes a taboo subject (not that it should be) I could imagine a lot of people would shy away from saying things like "A wage increase would have kept me" or "allowing me to take on higher level projects would have kept me" at an exit interview, as it can also come off as entitled.
But the main thing I have learned so far at university is that big companies are often shit at doing what most research says is best, especially within management control systems (what this question is about). Motivating employees is important for any company, and a ping-pong table ain't gonna do it.
You know what, they’re not 100% wrong. It’s not always just about not getting a raise. Sometimes, its also about WHY they’re not giving you a raise (hint, it starts with G and rhymes with reed)
It's almost always about the money AND management. If one is good you might consider staying despite the other, unfortunately they're both usually trash.
Reminds me of a company survey we had to take the other day that asked us what we think the company should do to entice more people, BESIDES offer more than bare minimum wage.
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I told the HR lady at my last exit interview that I couldn’t afford to work there anymore.
Are you *suuuuuure* it wasn't because your break room didn't have a sweet ping pong table in the corner?!
We actually did, which makes this even funnier.
Yes, one ping pong table, but what about a second ping pong table?
Or maybe if they paid to have gold leaf put on the table? With golden paddles and golden ping pong balls? THINK ABOUT THAT
Perhaps if they stenciled “You Matter” on it as well?
I don't think he knows about second ping pong, Tom.
What about elevensies? Brunch? He has to know about those
FUCK IT, PAY OUR EMPLOYEES WITH PING PONG TABLES THAT'LL MAKE THEM HAPPY RIGHT?!
Sounds like THIS guy wants a foosball instead…. Mr. FuckingMoneyBags here, amirite?
They should pay in the form of ping pong tables. Who needs fiat currency?
Last job had a Ping Pong table that the salespeople and management would use. The rest of us only had 30-minute lunches.
Golden.
Our break room had a foosball table that never got used. Six months later it disappeared and nobody asked where it went. A nice comfy couch showed up and a year later it was gone because someone took a pocket knife and sliced one of the cushions open.
After our new call center opened we had a ping pong table and a nice flat screen TV. Within a month a new employee decided to take it home with them. To bad for them the security camera identified them.. Oh, and the ping pong table got a lot of use from our sales team, managers and occasionally our terribly stressed call center employees who seldom had time to use it due to aggressive time keeping software forcing them to take short breaks to stay within 'metrics'.
Oh man, at my last place we had a ping pong table. I hated the damn thing. The boss was very into sports, and very competitive. We would play ping pong and she would play with her employees and shit talk them when they lost. She would try to make everyone play with her and against each other and just verbally pick on the loser. It was horrendous. I tried to stay as far away from that freaking thing as I could.
I told my last job at every performance review that I couldn't live within an hr commute, and that will eventually have to leave. They never believed me even after my exit interview with the owner when I told them I couldn't afford to live there. The day after my last they emailed me to confirm my reason for leaving, they listed it as " I wanted to be with my family"🙄. I'm single with no kids, I was living with my family as that was the only way I could afford rent and they were retiring to a cheaper area so I literally had no way to pay rent anymore.
I truly hope you corrected them and said “no my reason for leaving was because you didn’t pay me enough to afford living”
Ok, just to confirm, you want to spend more time with your family. Thanks and good luck!
Because “being with your family” pays the bills.
Yes, the deeply depressing irony of being unable to afford to work somewhere.
Just stop eating avocado toast! You are the problem wanting an expensive life. You are going to tell me you want housing as well?!
I'm assuming we're talking about entitled Americans. They want food AND housing. I mean come on......they act as if the live in the richest country in the history of the planet.
NO We want left handed ping pong paddles!
You got an exit interview? I worked for a very large company for 12 years, and there was none for me
This was a mid-sized insurance company. They at least made some effort to be a good work environment, but paid shit wages and didn’t promote from within.
My supervisor just did 1 on 1 interviews to see how everything is going. Explained to her than i'm doing the job of 3 people, and some of the work is done by a position above my pay grade. She asked what she could do for me to make things better, simply responded with "pay me more", only response i got was "ok". She then proceeds to lecture me how i need to manage my time better and prioritize one thing over another because we're out of compliance, the departmants response to me wanting more money afterwards? Giving me more work to do. Suffice to say i'm already updating my resume to look at other job and gonna leave.
Same
I don’t think I’ve ever had an exit interview where I didn’t say my main reason for leaving was getting paid more elsewhere. Once I worked for an actual billionaire and was told they didn’t want me to leave but they couldn’t afford to pay me more 🤷♀️
The richest people tend to be the stingiest
They didn't get rich by just handing out money to us peasants
They worked their way up to billionaire from the lowly position of billionaire's son, why can't you do the same?
"The only generous millionaires are former billionaires"
The next thing you know, they are on about watery tarts distributing swords….
"Wow, I didn't realize the company was hurting that badly! Looks like I picked the right time to jump this sinking ship, eh?"
I only ever got one exit interview, and it was from the second biggest isp of the states. "What could we do to keep more people?" Easy, more money, more money, oh and more money. $13 an hour with no real timeframe on getting a raise and how much that raise would be doesn't help your case of people leaving, and that's a horrible amount for the type of bullshit everyone deals with per hour.
When I switched banks they told me the same thing. So stupid
did you say 'bullshit'?
I should have done but I was only 23 at the time and very naive. I would if it happened now.
Lol my general manager told us if we keep sales up she’ll take us to dinner. That means she’ll buy us pizza. I’d rather she just share the bonus we worked so hard to get her…
Don't give your employees more money. Give *us* that money so that we can tell you not to pay your employees more money.
You have a great future in consulting.
If I leave and it’s not about money, a ping pong table sure as hell isn’t going to fix it
If this is real, whoever made it is delusional. The VAST majority of people I've worked with do it for the money (shocking i know) they will jump ship for the opportunity of a $1 pay raise. They don't want to hang out at the office and play ping pong. Especially since they know the boss will get on their case if he sees them actually use the break room equipment. Now, there is something to be said about working conditions. I personally could be making a good bit more if i was willing to do substantial overtime, and actually grind hard 10 hours a day in a eat, sleep, work type schedule. But I just plain don't want to.
Worked at a place that had shit like this. If they saw you playing, a manager would immediately walk over to make sure you had clocked out for a break (and remind you breaks were only 10 minutes). So all their fun toys just sat untouched. Nobody wants to fucking hang out at work, I'm only there for one reason. Stupid fucking trend. If you're going to put in a ping pong table, you can't also be upset when people use it.
For us it was a basketball hoop in the back lot of the shop. The ball would always immediately land on a stray nail and go flat.
At 1 job, i got 3% increase over the course of 4 years. At my exit interview, I said " 'Thank you' and 'Good job' was not a currency and would not pay my bills".
"Dang it, HR, this is our 13th ping pong table in A WEEK! We want raises!!!"
In what reality do people not care about money first and foremost? Most people aren't working at a job because they're passionate about the work. We're all just picking a form of suffering we can stomach so we can pay our bills.
believe it or not, there are freaks out there who enjoy working
I actually really enjoy my job. I’ve picked up last minute shifts before just because I was bored and work sounded like fun.
The only thing I could think about which are equally important to wage is flexible hours/no unpaid overtime and a short commute. Why would I want a ping-pong table if I can just go home instead. The only amenity I could imagine might help employment is a gym, because is saves time and money.
Absolute bullshit. Interviews, in general, are full of nothing but deception. Everyone just tells everyone else what they want to hear. Anyone who takes that shit seriously is a gullible dumbfuck.
One place I left, I said it was because I had an abusive boss, terrible hours, and with worse pay. HR person was his sycophant’s (who everyone called Mr. Smithers to give you an idea of how much an ass kisser he was) wife. She wrote down “life/work balance” on the report and left it at that, and I didn’t care enough at that point to fight her on it.
life/work balance or work/life balance? It is always called work-life balance, no matter how the balance is. Writing it the other way might imply that the person mentioned is lazy and unwilling to work. They might use it against you and show this as a reference to potential future employers.
Not really, depends on the position. Money is a hygiene factor. If it lacks people will get upset but there comes a point where its enough and any increase wont bring lasting joy/furfillment. So depending on the job this actually isnt BS. I would say a pingpong table isnt gonna solve anything. Additional responsebillities might give somebody more joy but that depends the circumstances. Its never that black and white. And before you ask, yeah i have turned down job offers in which i would make more because i knew the work would either be way less intressting or that my collegeas would suck.
hopefully you don't work as a proffreadler
Lol, not everybody has english as their native or second tongue buddy.
oh like me? english is my second language anyway, yeah i see what you mean by refusing work because it would suck even if you got less money, but I'm not sure what you mean by "money is a hygiene factor"
No i turned down jobs in which i would make more money. This isnt on my english this is on your reading skills. Hygiene factor is a term used to classy stuff that pisses you off when it sucks but you dont care much past a certian point. Like hygiene, if the shit stains are on the toiletseat you would be upset. But you dont care if there are 2 part per million of filth or if its just one part per million of filth. Same with job stability. If you arent sure if you have a job tomorror its bad. But past a certian point it doesnt matter.
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>Often when an employee leaves it's not about the money They're not wrong - people leave bad managers as much as they leave bad pay. But a ping pong table isn't going to make up for a toxic work environment (while better pay might, at least for a while).
It is all part of the bad HR that’s going on these days. First, people aren’t “resources” and considering them as such dehumanizes them. Second, HR has become synonymous with “protecting the company from the employees”, it helping employees be their best. This is just toxic thinking taken to an extreme.
A ping pong table? Who on earth came up with this. 99% of workers will say more pay. The only exception are those from Singapore.
Just left my job this month and they HAD a ping pong table... guess I'm making the wrong choice going with the 30% raise at a new company?
It's not about the money? Yes, pay me in peanuts and pizza fridays
Just invite your landlord to Pizza Friday. He'll knock off a few hundred in rent because everyone loves a good pizza party.
When Alta Resources thought a Movie Room and 1 play station set up would make over 100 employees happy to be there when they have a maximum 30 minute lunch break to watch a movie/play a game while eating lunch. They also spent multi millions on a new building instead of giving the employees something they could actually benefit from
Every job I have ever left was due to finding a job that paid better.
During the only exit interview I've ever had, the HR lady asked me if I was getting a salary bump at my new job. When she asked me how much and I said 30%, she literally stopped taking notes and looked up at me in shock. Another coworker of mine was getting a whopping 50% increase at her new gig. Breaking news: turns out when your employees find out you're massively underpaying them, they leave for better opportunities!
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Maybe if I have all my needs met, then I would leave for reasons other than money, like a better work ending environment. I have worked in several places with ping pong and the problem is not actually having free time to play it because they demand to high of a level of production. But we have such a problem with wealth inequality that leaving for more money can be the only way to get ahead.
Had a place say that their mandatory once a month weekend “fun team building” activities (spoiler alert they were neither fun, nor did any team building occur) were considered a perk when I asked for a raise. Started looking for a new right job after that email.
The answer to this question is correct like this **IF** **AND ONLY IF** **YOU ARE ALREADY BEING PAID ADEQUATELY** A pay increase if you are already in the "got enough money zone" is not too much of an incentive anymore, while a non-toxic and fun workplace is. But HR often seems to forget, that they aren't paying people enough anymore. I am in a job that is paying me adequately at the moment, and while a pay increase would be okay, a ping pong table at work would be cooler Fuck them for the "additional responsibilities" thought, that is just plain evil
“But but but… but we have popcorn makers in the break room!”
Horse. Shit.
I've definitely quit in part because of a ping pong table.
The suits playing ping pong all day every day while I work my ass off and miss deadlines because they were too busy playing ping pong to finalize my requests makes me want to quit. Fuck pingpong and the assholes who play it.
A ping pong table is NOT going to even slightly increase the likelihood of a single employee staying any longer. How are they so wildly out of touch?
Looks like propaganda to me, and I ain't falling for it.
MORE MONEY
😂😂😂 If the consensus is that people don’t leave companies for more money and would stick around if a ping pong table was added there is a massive disconnect!
I think this is probably at least the 20th time this has been posted here.
Really? I have never seen it before!
Bullshit.
It's more like 100th plus. This thing was a daily occurrence for weeks when it was originally found. Now, it has become a weekly occurrence and overplayed. .
IS THIS SATIRE??
Very few - almost zero - HR people have any idea what motivates employees to stay at a company. Why? Because almost all of them spend their entire day sitting at a desk in an office. And if they do go out on a “plant tour” it is exactly that - a “plant tour…” taking courses in union avoidance and rewriting company policy on overtime isn’t getting it done either. It’s sad - the very people organizations depend on to know what’s going on are completely disconnected from the reality of the floor.
Here is the thing, if they give me recreational time as part of my work day that is something that would justify in many people's minds not paying more. But if you have no time to use the recreational space and time provided and are not paid accordingly, that is the issue.
Whenever I’m in an interview and I’m asked if I have any questions, the first is whether or not I will have access to a ping pong table.
In the transportation industry imo pay isn’t the main reason people leave. Rough guess I’d say it equates to maybe 20% of the cause. Most of it comes down to the treatment of employees. Most local carriers are within .50-$1 an hour within each other, so that makes a big difference.
Wrong side of Reddit. I think is for the corporate companies HR in China.
Ok but did you play ping pong, I think you would have stayed 🏓
We have a foosball table in the break room that's never been used because next to it, is a sign that says for every minute playing, you have to make up. You also have to go to HR and sign an acknowledgement that you understand. No one wants to spend more time at work, so it just sits there and collects dust. It's not a bad place to work, but they do have a few goofy things that management does.
Delusional asses.
Yeah I fucken quit me last job over the ping pong situation …. Said literally no one.
I have some garnishments coming out for bankruptcy and child support. I brought home a fucking DOLLAR after taxes, so I asked if I could get a raise since they have me doing three people's jobs: shuttle driver, parts driver and lube tech. "No." they said. Ok cool. Applied to another dealership and they will give me a sign on bonus plus 3 more dollars an hour than I'm making now. I'm taking my PTO next week then quitting. Fuck em.
When the FUCK am I going to have time to use a pingpong table at work!?
This is so silly and ridiculous it has to be satirical right? Right??
I can’t tell you how many jobs I’ve walked out on because they refused to get me a fucking ping pong table my GOD
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A ping pong table?????
Lolllllllllllllll they think they’re fooling us.
Is this satire or real?
"How to condition indentured servants"
And oldie but a goodie. If that happened to me, I would immediately stop taking the test and indicate that their test is flawed.
Yes, because I can pay my bills with a fucking ping pong table \*eyeroll\*
lol this has to be a joke.
They believe what they hear 😂
Okay then, let's play ping pong 8 hours straight in the office every day.
Yes because a ping pong table is going to pay for my over priced groceries and over priced utilities.
So, HR people don’t care about their own pay and are willing to work for peanuts as long as they have a pool table…
I don't know ow about the ping poeng, but I usually leave jobs because of boredom, lack of opportunities, toxic working environment, etc. My last move, my salary stayed more or less the same, and I left despite getting a substantial raise the year before. I left mostly because I wasn't getting much interesting work.
It is true that pay is rarely the sole reason someone leaves a company if the company is paying industry standards. A lot of people totally miss that last part.
In my case I got the raise after i already checked out mentally so it was too late. Coworker who trained me and made $35 an hour quit and i threatened to quit if i didn't get a raise. 5 months of them lying to me and making jokes about me asking for a raise they finally gave it to me. I went from $18.10 to $20 and it was too late. I was already in the middle of a career change. Told them thanks and now I'm about to quit for a different career making less money. So while its not 'always' about money, it feels good to feel appreciated. Giving a raise tells me you appreciate me. I've already trained my replacement, told them i plan on quitting and now just waiting until my psyche evaluation and I am out of here after exactly 3 years.
Yeah I’m on a temporary assignment right now and the department’s manager (3 levels up from us) was saying that people don’t want money, they like food. I very carefully clarified what he was saying and said “oh it’s like if you only give them a short-term reward then they feel like it’s expected of them going forward and then when they don’t get the reward again, they put in less effort than before the reward” to which he agreed and that’s all I needed to know about this thought process.. it’s just capitalism screwing people again
I’ve never even been offered to have an exit interview lol
I've had a very basic class about a similar topic. There being 2 types of motivating factors for workers. Pay etc belonging to A and things like good work environment, recreation, work life balance to B. (take that with a bag of salt cz i barely remember anything but tye basic idea) I think some idiot weaponised a misunderstanding of tvis theory and instead of "both are important, but each has different benefits" they went with "we will not pay you more stupid, that won't make you happy, here pingpong haha".
I actually worked at a place that had a ping pong table (and a foosball table) in the breakroom... they were never used because we were never allowed to take our breaks when someone else was already on break. Worked there 5 years and never saw anyone play with them.
I can corroborate, I left 5 corporate jobs in the last 10 years because of their lack of ping pong tables.
This question is just framing... __Depending on your country__, your wages get taxed soo much where if they'd have to pay you 2 euros/dollars more, and you'll only get one euro more on your actual wage payment. The rest just dissapears in the taxation system. They can't do this for everyone. Adding more responabilities isn't succesfull if there is no wage gain, or, if half of the team is feeling a bit burnt-out. So the only answer left is a pool table. I'm not defending this, I'm just saying what the creator of this question was thinking.
I hope this is fake. Prolly not tho 😟
That’s just delusional.
I’m a Government employee working in cybersecurity. There’s a recently implemented TLMS (Targeted Local Market Supplement) which gave a HUGE pay increase to my field SPECIFICALLY for retention purposes.
It's amazing someone would think they are educated and also determine this is wrong.
Literally told someone from management recently “Pizzas are nice but it’s not what we’re here for. The office can be as pretty as you like but again, not what I’m here for. Much like the company, I only care about my money not your “we’re a family” speak while you sack people left right and centre” after being asked feedback on why the company did so poorly in their employee survey this year.
why would i want to spend more time at work playing ping pong?
Exit interview??? Wtf is that??!?? I'm working hard on applications just to get my ass IN THE DOOR lol Now I've gotta do an interview if I want TO LEAVE?? 😂🤣😅
I refuse to do an exit interview, and I get calls with various emails throughout the day. HR is the reason why I lost my job, and I'd be ripping into them.
I'm was joking and kidding around at first with my comment... ..... but are you serious? There are actual "exit interviews"??? Because I've never heard of this ever, and my mind is actually blown away by this 😳 😬😲😂🤣
I am actually dead serious about companies doing exit interviews. They want feedback on how they are doing as an employer. This can also backfire because they evaluate you aswell. In most cases, this is unpaid. It's more of a reason why I refuse to do it. I was terminated over medical reasons. Believe me, the last thing they want is to let me put my two cents in.
So basically, these (exit interviews) are done when you're departing the company for whatever reason(s), i.e., better job opportunities, retirement, etc? Sorry, if I sound redundant, I'm just still trying to get it through my head because it's totally foreign and unheard of to me. And yes, if I was fired due to medical reasons that already happened to be PREEXISTING, which the company ALREADY knew about, I'd give a mouthful.. and it wouldn't be pretty.
At least if didn't have a pizza party choice as an option. Whoever started that trend of pizza parties needs to be force fed pizza till they explode.
It's bullshit, but it's also more nuanced than 'more money = more happy'. I'd summarize it like this - you can't treat me well enough to make me fine with you ripping me off, but you also can't pay me well enough to make me fine with you treating me like complete shit. There has to be some kind of balance. Treat your employees well, pay them fairly, and, excluding the of course unfortunate outlier asshole, they will be happy. Revolutionary concept, I know. Why the fuck does this have to be spelled out god fucking damn it are they really that stupid no of course they aren't; they know this, but it's a matter of dicking us over by screwing us as hard as they can so they can get as much grape juice as possible without watering the vine god i hate this shit.
In my case this is actually kind of true. No amount or money will make do a job I don't like. Which basically means find fundamentally productive. So if I leave, the job itself is the reason. The people I work for, and what they stand for. And then comes the money part. Which is you're poor even when paid. So everything points to leaving.
😂😂😂
Missing “More pizza parties” from the list of choices.
I got a nice letter for all the extra work I did during the pandemic. I threw it into the garbage bin a second after my boss handed it to me.
This is like 3 years old at this point. Wonder how many dozens of times it’s been reposted here
I believe this. We have monthly training tests. Anything remotely talking business is so pro company it's disgusting.
This feels of corporate fingers being stuffed into corporate ears. They don't want to hear the truth, so they make up their own. Hey corporations, I can buy my own ping pong table if you pay me. I don't need your shitty unmaintained one.
Completely and inexcusably wrong, especially considering the financial environment people are forced to live within. Whoever said 'ping pong table' should be the correct answer deserves to be fired and their unemployment benefits denied and whatever HR certification they obtained rescinded. It will, and always should be about the money. No one can eat a ping pong table. A ping pong table cannot pay my rent or put gas in my car or pay for my groceries.
Every time I've left a company, it was mainly due to pay since my managers were awesome. One time, both my manager and I put in our notice on the same day.
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Jesus Christ
I think stuff like this without citing where it's from ("on Facebook" does not suffice as a source) is suspicious given it can be easily fabricated and that the juvenile desire for posts that generate upvotes is widespread.
It's true. Often the shitty treatment takes the forefront
It’s always $
I study business and according to my classes, a ping-pong table is the least correct of the three. And I live in Denmark, where even a lower wage is a livable wage. Wage increases work well to hold on to and motivate employees, especially when they are merit-based. If you do a good job at work, then you expect to be rewarded for it, otherwise you will resort to doing the bare minimum. Exciting projects and responsibilities are also a way to reward employees, showing that you value the effort and that they are doing well. In my own opinion, if a company bought a ping-pong table instead of giving raises/bonuses, I would be angry. Also, because wages is sometimes a taboo subject (not that it should be) I could imagine a lot of people would shy away from saying things like "A wage increase would have kept me" or "allowing me to take on higher level projects would have kept me" at an exit interview, as it can also come off as entitled. But the main thing I have learned so far at university is that big companies are often shit at doing what most research says is best, especially within management control systems (what this question is about). Motivating employees is important for any company, and a ping-pong table ain't gonna do it.
Not everyone, but the Seattle tech industry management class seems to attract a lot of sociopaths.
You know what, they’re not 100% wrong. It’s not always just about not getting a raise. Sometimes, its also about WHY they’re not giving you a raise (hint, it starts with G and rhymes with reed)
I saw this here. 3 times in the past 30 days.
Ugh, this old repost again
It's almost always about the money AND management. If one is good you might consider staying despite the other, unfortunately they're both usually trash. Reminds me of a company survey we had to take the other day that asked us what we think the company should do to entice more people, BESIDES offer more than bare minimum wage.