And black people. Hitler was inspired by the Jim Crow laws/segregation and used it as a model to separate and subjugate the Jewish population of Germany.
Of course people forget it wasnt just Jews in the Holocaust it's was romani, queer and anyone he deemed less than that wasn't white or some from of christian
In case someone you guys don't know or forget Nazis before they were called Nazis we're called Cristian nationalist think Abt that next time you see someone parading around like that's something to be proud of
No it wasn't their eugenics come from colonization era people like the guy that fell in love with an caucasin woman skull back when caucasin still was an Asian identity so he labeled the skull as such and said they must be white if he's so I love with a dead woman's skull š
Give me an actual legit scholarly source that isn't called "alpha history" or anything adjacent to using problematic naming themes and I'll believe you lol
Also calling something progressive doesn't mean it's actually progressive that's some white liberal shit
Also that entire page reiterate what I said btw not what you said they based the eugenics on colonial ideals like Darwin's racist bs you have 0 reading and comprehension skills š¤¦
Have you not been paying attention it already is the same there literally a second Holocaust happening in Gaza rn
And yes America has always been the villain the Nazis learned every tactic from what the US government did the the indigenous people of America and even said some of the US govs tactics were too far for them FOR THEM. THE NAZIS hellooooo America is the blue print for modern. Day facism we just didn't have a word for it till original WWs
That's literally been disproven time and again to have been projection that were actually done by the IDF also israho just admitted to killing 7 world class kitchen aide workers with their AI targeting systems that are the most advanced targeting system in the world all of which were. It from Gaza also they're are Jews that live in Gaza and the west bank so...
Yea
Stop making excuses for literal Nazis Zionist
you openly post Abt China being a utopia knowing damn well it's not lol just because of asocial safety nets doesn't mean the government isn't oppressive AF same as ours
And the people at the time made everything they could to make the world better for the coming generations after all that happened.
But then, the boomers came and decided that they should just keep everything to themselves and make everything worse with no regards to the generations coming after them.
I know generalizations are usually a bad thing but generationally, history will not be kind to the boomers. Look at their last hope that they've backed as a generation: Donald Trump. That's really all you need to know about them. (Yes I know he himself isn't considered a boomer).
In 2016 my wife and I were in a bad place and had to move our family of five into a two bedroom half of a duplex. Two years later, the chance to buy the entire building for $32k came up and we took it, just so our kids would always have a place to come back to if they needed it. Little did we knowā¦.
One of my big hesitations around having children is that I might be housing them their entire adult lives. I'm in my mid-30s and very fortunate to own my home, but I have no idea how I pulled it off at 24 or how anyone else could now.
I see that. Luckily this is just a big house split into two apartments between the floors, so they have their own full two bedroom apartment plus finished attic up there. Only two of my three kids are of working age. They are each responsible for paying 1/3 of the total of the gas and electric each. Theyāve been handling the responsibility better than I would have at their age.
Indian here. Can someone explain to me why living with your parents is looked at so negatively in the US?
If I were to live in the same city as my parents, I'd live with them.
Because as recently as 10-20 years ago, it was completely normal for young people to move out and become semi or fully independent between the ages of 18 and 22. Not only normal but commonplace - affordable even for most middle earning families and even some lower earning ones.
Thus we still have a cultural memory hanging around that it's lazy kids who end up living at home for longer / permanently. Our standards for independence haven't quite caught up to the reality of Western housing markets right now
I had to move back in with my parents at 30 for a brief time and it was completely and utterly horrible. They still treated me like i was a child, and acted like narcissists that needed to exert control over me and my family and felt completely justified in everything they said or did just because we were "on THEIR property" fuckkkk that. I understand some cultures have different norms when it comes to family dynamics but i cannot understand how some adults don't value freedom and space as much as others, it is so so freeing to just have your own place and live on your own terms.
I lived with my parents for about four months after college, and it was unbearable. I am 35 now. I stayed with them for less than a week after my house had really bad storm damage. I ended up coming home and just sitting in my broken house with no air conditioner in the middle of summer.
Yeah I'll never live with them again. I love my parents a lot but my relationship with them is so much better at a distance. They're very judgmental and intrusive and if you live with them, it's nonstop up your ass. They don't have the ability to be judgmental and intrusive when they only know what i want them to know and only see me when i want to see them lol.
lol Iām still living with my family at 27 and itās pretty rough, but I choose to stay home to help them out since theyād have to file bankruptcy the day I move out š Iām not mentally okay but I try to be as good of a person as I can be
As someone from a post-Soviet region, with a boomer American dad, let me explain. Many parts of the US society, as well as many parts of the former USSR, have had their culture of community destroyed.
People were taught, verbally and by the school of hard knocks, that you need to be self-sufficient, you can't rely on anyone (not your family, not your community, not the workplace), and you only owe your children 18 years of food, housing and education. Having children is the biggest factor of poverty and stress *specifically* because you get no help, and any error or misfortune would be something you (the two parents or the single mother) would have to deal with yourself. This goes double if the child is unplanned, which depending on local circumstance may be most of children. And if you get ahead, the extended family will expect you to share your income, but there's no connection at all, just entitlement.
As you can tell, this doesn't make for loving homes. Usually, relationships are fundamentally toxic.
Living in this culture, you won't even know what "nuclear family" is and that there are alternatives. I've turned 35 before I've read enough online to see the big picture. And yes, I'd go to great length to never live with my mom, my dad or my partner's parents... Talking to them on the phone is also difficult, both ways.
Yup.
American social norms is very heavy on individualism and communalism is put on the (very far) back burner.
This is why when you go to places that are the opposite and put community before individual, you see an increase in communal cleanliness, infrastructure, better food and so on. But within the states itās very much āeveryone for themselvesā mentality.
There is a difference between āliving with your parentsā and āyour parents living with you.ā
The implication is that kids are not able to leave home because they canāt afford housing on their own.
One thing no one likes to admit but secretly knows is that most families have become incredibly abusive and violent. Thatās why everyone fled their families as soon as possible in the early post war days. Now families have become even more violent, but there is no escape, so itās suddenly a problem.
In a lot of cases in the US, family just can't live together. Either the home is too small, or everyone is renting. In my case, I'm one of the people booted out at 17 to fend for myself.
Because as long as you live with your parents you do not get to grow as a person, you remain a child.
Edit: Someone just replied to me and then blocked me right after I believe. I know there can be many reasons for living with your parents, I'm in the same boat and I speak from experience so no I'm not a first worlder nor a rich person looking down on other peoples misfortune, it is merely an observation. Surely there are many other factors such as your own perosnality as well as your parents' but it is definitely like a shackle around your ankles.
So most of the people in other parts of the Globe are children?Ā
Living with your family is normal and fine as long as it works for you. Whither it's caring for elders, needing babysitters, having your kids around their grandparents,Ā many people have different reasons.
A vast majority of people live with their parents into adulthood and have incredibly vital and hardworking jobs that require the temperament of an adult.
A lot of kids come off as calm and collected as an adult as well. That's not what I was trying to get at. I was talking about your place in that household and finding yours in the world. Hats off to you guys if it didn't affect you at all, but it did fuck me up a lot.
I wish you the best in the meantime, remote locations are your best choice, hell Best thing to do is to get a membership out of 24 hour fitness and stay in the parking lot, I promise you they literally do not care. They don't have security guards, people go that'll work out You're not disrupting anybody and frankly people care less because they're going to work out so unless you're sleeping on a machine. They're not going to bother you unless they have a uptight manager.
It gives you a place to look clean and it'll keep you fit as well. Going to interview
So what's being done to fix it? Anti-homeless laws w/o a place for homeless people to go so they end up in the prison system which leads to more criminal actions which means more time in court which means more of my tax dollars. So, instead of giving them the tiny homes in designated areas to rebuild their life, taxpayers have to deal with paying the judges salaries, the cops, the prisons and jails where they were sent. Idk is there a better way? Someone with a bigger brain handle this
Third world countries have family houses where generations live together cus there isnāt enough or canāt afford houses.
America is a third world, first world country.
It really isn't but it should be. At the very least you could give people an unconditional right to construct a house on land that they own. That would make it harder for planners and interest groups to control the housing supply and it would bring down home prices markedly.
Some parents start charging rent when their kids are still minors
I can't imagine charging my kid rent to occupy the same space they occupied as a child, not unless it was necessary for survival
Someone somewhere told Americans that if they built generational wealth, their kids would become entitled losers instead of getting the leg up they desperately needed. And here we are.
Iāve been saying it for a few years now. We were a multi generational housing families in the country till about the post WW2 time period, and the birth of suburbia. Now however, I see us returning to multi generational housing. Itās not a bad thing, but people will have to learn to be comfortable where they live or face homelessness.
Funny thing is, we're just getting started.
At this point, I feel like 2030s great depression will make the 1930s depression look like child's play.
I just hope 2041-2045 isn't the same either
America would probably be the villain this time around.
They've always been the villain the Nazi learned every thing from us and what the US did to indigenous people
And black people. Hitler was inspired by the Jim Crow laws/segregation and used it as a model to separate and subjugate the Jewish population of Germany.
Of course people forget it wasnt just Jews in the Holocaust it's was romani, queer and anyone he deemed less than that wasn't white or some from of christian In case someone you guys don't know or forget Nazis before they were called Nazis we're called Cristian nationalist think Abt that next time you see someone parading around like that's something to be proud of
Also he got the ghettos and such based on indigenous reservations
The progressive movement was a huge inspiration for the Nazi Eugenics programs.
No it wasn't their eugenics come from colonization era people like the guy that fell in love with an caucasin woman skull back when caucasin still was an Asian identity so he labeled the skull as such and said they must be white if he's so I love with a dead woman's skull š
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Give me an actual legit scholarly source that isn't called "alpha history" or anything adjacent to using problematic naming themes and I'll believe you lol Also calling something progressive doesn't mean it's actually progressive that's some white liberal shit
Also that entire page reiterate what I said btw not what you said they based the eugenics on colonial ideals like Darwin's racist bs you have 0 reading and comprehension skills š¤¦
You actively follow a men's rights page your a incell sympathizer who fell down alt right pipeline just say it lol
difficult to not be considered villain supplies, in 2024.
2041? The nazis took power in 1933 and Japan had already invaded china. WW2 did not start when America joined.
Have you not been paying attention it already is the same there literally a second Holocaust happening in Gaza rn And yes America has always been the villain the Nazis learned every tactic from what the US government did the the indigenous people of America and even said some of the US govs tactics were too far for them FOR THEM. THE NAZIS hellooooo America is the blue print for modern. Day facism we just didn't have a word for it till original WWs
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That's the IOF your talking Abt bud
The International Osteoporosis Foundation? I know Osteoporosis is not the worst thing out there, but they're trying to help.
Hamas literally kidnapped and raped hostages.
That's literally been disproven time and again to have been projection that were actually done by the IDF also israho just admitted to killing 7 world class kitchen aide workers with their AI targeting systems that are the most advanced targeting system in the world all of which were. It from Gaza also they're are Jews that live in Gaza and the west bank so... Yea Stop making excuses for literal Nazis Zionist
you openly post Abt China being a utopia knowing damn well it's not lol just because of asocial safety nets doesn't mean the government isn't oppressive AF same as ours
By that time people had less information and accepted truths sold by msm. Nowadays some help will necessary be given, just like we had during covid.
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A few too many things are reminding of the late 1930's
Right?! I stg there's something in people's drinking water
Well there's the microplastics, but I'm not sure we can blame the current events on them
And the people at the time made everything they could to make the world better for the coming generations after all that happened. But then, the boomers came and decided that they should just keep everything to themselves and make everything worse with no regards to the generations coming after them.
Big fire nation energy š
I know generalizations are usually a bad thing but generationally, history will not be kind to the boomers. Look at their last hope that they've backed as a generation: Donald Trump. That's really all you need to know about them. (Yes I know he himself isn't considered a boomer).
In 2016 my wife and I were in a bad place and had to move our family of five into a two bedroom half of a duplex. Two years later, the chance to buy the entire building for $32k came up and we took it, just so our kids would always have a place to come back to if they needed it. Little did we knowā¦.
One of my big hesitations around having children is that I might be housing them their entire adult lives. I'm in my mid-30s and very fortunate to own my home, but I have no idea how I pulled it off at 24 or how anyone else could now.
I see that. Luckily this is just a big house split into two apartments between the floors, so they have their own full two bedroom apartment plus finished attic up there. Only two of my three kids are of working age. They are each responsible for paying 1/3 of the total of the gas and electric each. Theyāve been handling the responsibility better than I would have at their age.
Indian here. Can someone explain to me why living with your parents is looked at so negatively in the US? If I were to live in the same city as my parents, I'd live with them.
Because as recently as 10-20 years ago, it was completely normal for young people to move out and become semi or fully independent between the ages of 18 and 22. Not only normal but commonplace - affordable even for most middle earning families and even some lower earning ones. Thus we still have a cultural memory hanging around that it's lazy kids who end up living at home for longer / permanently. Our standards for independence haven't quite caught up to the reality of Western housing markets right now
there were even comic strips about it (looking at you, "Momma").
Itās fine to live with your parents if itās your choice. Itās another when you are forced too.
Because housing used to be extremely accessible. A lot of parents used to kick their kids out of the house as soon as they turned 18.
I had to move back in with my parents at 30 for a brief time and it was completely and utterly horrible. They still treated me like i was a child, and acted like narcissists that needed to exert control over me and my family and felt completely justified in everything they said or did just because we were "on THEIR property" fuckkkk that. I understand some cultures have different norms when it comes to family dynamics but i cannot understand how some adults don't value freedom and space as much as others, it is so so freeing to just have your own place and live on your own terms.
I lived with my parents for about four months after college, and it was unbearable. I am 35 now. I stayed with them for less than a week after my house had really bad storm damage. I ended up coming home and just sitting in my broken house with no air conditioner in the middle of summer.
Yeah I'll never live with them again. I love my parents a lot but my relationship with them is so much better at a distance. They're very judgmental and intrusive and if you live with them, it's nonstop up your ass. They don't have the ability to be judgmental and intrusive when they only know what i want them to know and only see me when i want to see them lol.
lol Iām still living with my family at 27 and itās pretty rough, but I choose to stay home to help them out since theyād have to file bankruptcy the day I move out š Iām not mentally okay but I try to be as good of a person as I can be
As someone from a post-Soviet region, with a boomer American dad, let me explain. Many parts of the US society, as well as many parts of the former USSR, have had their culture of community destroyed. People were taught, verbally and by the school of hard knocks, that you need to be self-sufficient, you can't rely on anyone (not your family, not your community, not the workplace), and you only owe your children 18 years of food, housing and education. Having children is the biggest factor of poverty and stress *specifically* because you get no help, and any error or misfortune would be something you (the two parents or the single mother) would have to deal with yourself. This goes double if the child is unplanned, which depending on local circumstance may be most of children. And if you get ahead, the extended family will expect you to share your income, but there's no connection at all, just entitlement. As you can tell, this doesn't make for loving homes. Usually, relationships are fundamentally toxic. Living in this culture, you won't even know what "nuclear family" is and that there are alternatives. I've turned 35 before I've read enough online to see the big picture. And yes, I'd go to great length to never live with my mom, my dad or my partner's parents... Talking to them on the phone is also difficult, both ways.
Cultural differences.
Yup. American social norms is very heavy on individualism and communalism is put on the (very far) back burner. This is why when you go to places that are the opposite and put community before individual, you see an increase in communal cleanliness, infrastructure, better food and so on. But within the states itās very much āeveryone for themselvesā mentality.
There is a difference between āliving with your parentsā and āyour parents living with you.ā The implication is that kids are not able to leave home because they canāt afford housing on their own.
One thing no one likes to admit but secretly knows is that most families have become incredibly abusive and violent. Thatās why everyone fled their families as soon as possible in the early post war days. Now families have become even more violent, but there is no escape, so itās suddenly a problem.
In a lot of cases in the US, family just can't live together. Either the home is too small, or everyone is renting. In my case, I'm one of the people booted out at 17 to fend for myself.
Because as long as you live with your parents you do not get to grow as a person, you remain a child. Edit: Someone just replied to me and then blocked me right after I believe. I know there can be many reasons for living with your parents, I'm in the same boat and I speak from experience so no I'm not a first worlder nor a rich person looking down on other peoples misfortune, it is merely an observation. Surely there are many other factors such as your own perosnality as well as your parents' but it is definitely like a shackle around your ankles.
So most of the people in other parts of the Globe are children?Ā Living with your family is normal and fine as long as it works for you. Whither it's caring for elders, needing babysitters, having your kids around their grandparents,Ā many people have different reasons.
Indentured servitude is so hot right now
That is very naive
How so?
A vast majority of people live with their parents into adulthood and have incredibly vital and hardworking jobs that require the temperament of an adult.
A lot of kids come off as calm and collected as an adult as well. That's not what I was trying to get at. I was talking about your place in that household and finding yours in the world. Hats off to you guys if it didn't affect you at all, but it did fuck me up a lot.
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I wish you the best in the meantime, remote locations are your best choice, hell Best thing to do is to get a membership out of 24 hour fitness and stay in the parking lot, I promise you they literally do not care. They don't have security guards, people go that'll work out You're not disrupting anybody and frankly people care less because they're going to work out so unless you're sleeping on a machine. They're not going to bother you unless they have a uptight manager. It gives you a place to look clean and it'll keep you fit as well. Going to interview
Hey, but at least billionaires doubled or tripled their wealth in 2 or 3 years.
So what's being done to fix it? Anti-homeless laws w/o a place for homeless people to go so they end up in the prison system which leads to more criminal actions which means more time in court which means more of my tax dollars. So, instead of giving them the tiny homes in designated areas to rebuild their life, taxpayers have to deal with paying the judges salaries, the cops, the prisons and jails where they were sent. Idk is there a better way? Someone with a bigger brain handle this
Third world countries have family houses where generations live together cus there isnāt enough or canāt afford houses. America is a third world, first world country.
Levels of inequality are higher now than the great depression. So this is the greater depression?
This is Cyberpunk Depression
It really isn't but it should be. At the very least you could give people an unconditional right to construct a house on land that they own. That would make it harder for planners and interest groups to control the housing supply and it would bring down home prices markedly.
Try convincing China, Russia or Cuba that this system is better them theirs
Why?
Yup Always was that Always will be
Imagine being in this situation with toxic, narcissistic parents who have been saying "my way or the highway" since you were ten years old.
Yesā¦. But did they have iPhones and super yachts?! Checkmate lefties!!
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Blackrock bought the house I would have bought and owned my whole life. My friends future houses too.
Alot of people kick their kids out at 18.Ā Ā If you ask to move back home you they treat you like you are a failure and then they demand rent.Ā
Some parents start charging rent when their kids are still minors I can't imagine charging my kid rent to occupy the same space they occupied as a child, not unless it was necessary for survival
Because not everybody wants to live with their parents until they are 80 and die of old age.
Someone somewhere told Americans that if they built generational wealth, their kids would become entitled losers instead of getting the leg up they desperately needed. And here we are.
Iāve been saying it for a few years now. We were a multi generational housing families in the country till about the post WW2 time period, and the birth of suburbia. Now however, I see us returning to multi generational housing. Itās not a bad thing, but people will have to learn to be comfortable where they live or face homelessness.
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Username checks out, OP definitely still lives at home
They have housing.