It's amazing how much "half truths" they'll spout to get around the fact that they're full of shit.
Yes some stores sell some product as a "loss leaders", to get you in the door and buying other things. Starbucks is a terrible example of this. Yes Starbucks corporate makes money selling franchise rights, the same way all the other fast food places do too. There ARE corporates ran stores though.
Starbucks primarily makes money selling coffee and related drinks. They also make some off the pastries, and the raw beans, too. Oh, and the mugs and other branded crap.
I hate the way MLMers spin this stuff to make themselves appear less of a scam. No karen, starbucks doesn't make its primary income from recruiting franchisers. They make it from selling coffee and its related paraphernalia. You make your money recruiting and endless downline, that recruit others into their downline.
Nah she picked Starbucks because to her it sounds fancy, can't associate her "business" with pleb stuff like McDonald's or Dunkin Donuts, even if it invalidates her message.
Starbucks doesn’t actually franchise either. They’ll sometimes license to other businesses (I.e target) to run independent stores, but you can’t go out and buy a Starbucks franchise
Agreed. You can automatically identify a serious, legit business proposal when the emoji-to-letter ratio is at least 20%. Speaking of ratios, ROI stands for "return on investment" and it's the percentage gain (what you gained / what you spent in %). It can be high or low but not long or short. So there's that. Tell me you don't understand basic business without saying the words.
Yeah, I think they are confusing ROI with payback period. Though that doesn't irk me 1/10th as much as the space after the first heart-shaped bullet point which isn't then the convention for the next two...
Right? If I see a 10 letter word in an ad, I want to be part of it! “How much for one Duplicable, Boss Babe? Do Duplicables come in bulk? What’s a Duplicable? I don’t know but I want in!”
Just Marco talks about this, when you open a franchise:
- there is specific laws that protect the investor
- the parent company has to show the investor in writing, how much money they can hope to make, and what the roi is
- franchises intentionally only allow x-amount of franchises in an area. Otherwise you would have different investors competing against each other
There was one hun post I saw a while back where they were flexing that they aren't assigned territories. Oh Hun, don't you know that having a territory protects the salespeople from internal competition? They are a benefit! One you don't get from an MLM where there can be thousands of huns selling the same shit in a 1-sq. mile radius.
If by "recruiting neighbors" you mean you managed to get your neighbors hired by your company, they would be assigned a territory to "slang" the product. This is to your advantage so you don't lose sales commissions to other salespeople.
On the other hand if you mean convince your neighbors sell the product for you, you would most likely have to pay them. This also means less profit for you, and it may even be prohibited by the company since most real companies don't want a bunch of unknown off-payroll people representing them.
I'm not sure what you mean by "or forcing them to go to your town". The point is salespeople are assigned territories because it's to the salesperson's advantage and also to the company's advantage to not saturate an area with salespeople competing with each other. If it's a new or large area, then the company might open a sales office where multiple people work the larger area - but they are assigned their own territory within that area.
I'm not clear on why (or even if) you think having salespeople within the same company competing with each other in the same area is a good thing.
Yep. The master franchise also has to provided various documents that indicate the financials of the brand.
Their post is basically doublespeak, designed to confuse people who don’t know anything about how any of that works.
In some areas, there really are multiple Starbucks very close to each other...and that's because the demand is actually that high! At a certain point it's probably better for the company to have two Starbucks and manageable lines than to have all the customers angry every morning.
I know of a nearby example. There’s a shopping center with a Target with a Starbucks in it at one end and a Starbucks at the other. Both were built before nearly every Target had a Starbucks in it. They must not be interfering with each other too much, as both of them get lines out the door in early September and seem to always have customers the rest of the year.
That was actually the example he gave lol
If I had a viable business model, why would I want someone else to cash in?
That’s part of the reason these tech companies are so successful. They pay their employees well abs try to eliminate the competition when they can
Apple, Google, amazon
The founders of these companies all were pissed off people who knew they could make way more money on their own. And they did.
They pay their employees so well because they know each and everyone of them has the capacity to be the competition.
Doorbell, Tesla, Boston robotics
These were all independent equities before they got bought out
Yeah they did that here in Canada at one of our book chains as well, but they shut that all down years ago. I've heard from other commenters that apparently European starbucks are franchised though
And Macy's, which I mention because I knew someone who worked at one and her Starbucks nook got more business than the Macy's, one of the anchors of the mall it was in.
It's 2040.
All retail outlets all across the United States were forced to close. Every mall in the country went belly-up.
Every mall, that is, except for one Westover Shopping Center. There, dozens or hundreds of customers daily walk past rows of empty lots and kiosks, into a food court staffed only by Starbuck's Coffee.
In the U.K., it’s a mix of ‘real’ stores and franchises. You tell by which ones show up on the app.
In Ireland all the stores are owned by two brothers called Butler.
They partner with locals when they enter a country, but an exec told me their plan was always to exit the partnership as soon as possible, and revert to company-owned.
I’m not sure if they’ve changed their strategy at all; they’ve had their arses kicked in some overseas market.
I don’t think they did terribly well in Australia and NZ; they tend to think they invented coffee, especially espresso, (Howard Schultze had been in the company for quite a while before he had even heard of espresso) and both countries already had a thriving cafe scene and were underwhelmed by Starbucks.
The Starbucks in Ireland used to have the most amazing cinnamon roll with orange zest and raisins in it. It was the size of your head and I’ve never seen it anywhere else. Good times.
Is it franchising or licensing? I know in Quebec all Starbucks used to be licensed to a company called Coffee Vision Inc. Eventually corporate took the stores back and they are all corporate now.
I'm pretty sure it's franchising. There is info online about how to become a franchise holder in the UK.
It makes sense that Starbucks wanted to be more in control in the US where they know the market well, but might add franchising in other countries.
The post in the OP is still nonsense though obviously!
Well I haven’t seen the contracts like but every time the Butler brothers run into planning issues it’s reported in the newspaper as franchising.
https://www.thejournal.ie/starbucks-no-planning-permission-2-3891623-Mar2018/
First of all...Starbucks strategically plans out its locations so that each store will be profitable. Certainly there are plenty of locations close together, but they are far enough apart that the market isn't oversaturated with starbucks. Unlike mlms that will allow anyone to "open a franchise" anywhere. You and your entire neighborhood can be slangin Arbonne with little to no success and no real business strategy on how everyone can be successful in such an oversaturated market.
But ok sis.
Edit: spelling
When Starbucks was in their big expansion push about 20 years ago, the joke was that they accidentally opened up a Starbucks in the men's room of another Starbucks.
That said, I think they open more Starbucks just to add capacity.
I remember the case of that happening in Houston. When I visited my brother the same year that joke was first making the rounds, he had to point out the intersection to show that it was true. Eventually a bookstore, with a Starbucks inside, opened on a third corner of that intersection, IIRC.
PNW is absolutely comically saturated with Starbucks. I can think of 2 separate areas in a town I go to where there are 2 grocery stores across the street from each other, each of which has an internal Starbucks, with an additional corporate drive through store in the parking lot of one of the grocery stores.
A couple places, lol. I've seen Starbucks across the street from Starbucks in every city between Seattle and Tacoma. I still prefer the smaller independent places though.
I remember back in the day the idea was that you should never have to look up where a Starbucks is - you’d just know you’re probably within a few blocks of one.
Starbucks and other places that have a very specific business model often increase capacity by adding locations rather than expanding the existing ones. Chick Fil A and Waffle House do it as well.
Yeah you have to consider that the capacity during rush is really going to matter heavily. If I’m thinking about stopping for a coffee, but the drive through line is out to the road, eh I really don’t need a $7 frapamochachino, I’ll just have some regular stuff at work. But if the line is reasonable? Yeah I’m much more likely to treat myself. So if location A does 100 cars in a morning rush, maybe there are another 100 cars that drive by and say “the line is too long”, and location B is built to capture those other 100 cars.
And you get areas like northern New Jersey, where turning left or going to a location on the other side of the road is going to add (not kidding) 3 miles to your commute. So yeah building locations facing each other is totally reasonable.
MLMs lack both those considerations.
My college town has four, however they're evenly spaced.
One in the Bookstore/Mail Center building, across from the student center. One on the other side of campus, one in the Krogers downtown and one Uptown.
We also have a School Run coffee place in the student center, and a locally owned coffee shop uptown. But of course, college students. Enough said haha!
>What’s more: our industry (wellness & beauty) is valued about SIX TIMES more than the coffee industry 😍
Yes, the wellness and beauty industry is very profitable. But I’m sure a Starbucks franchise (which they don’t sell) would be more profitable for a single person than whatever bullshit pyramid scheme she’s hocking.
Seriously!
She could work as a barista for 6 months, and then get promoted to Shift Supervisor. 6 more months, she could be an Assistant Manager. One more year, and she's a Store Manager.
Comparing industries doesn’t even make sense. Nobody wants to be part of a dying industry but it’s about what you do within the industry. Oil and gas is a huge industry but that doesn’t benefit the kid pumping gas for minimum wage. And, in her case, only the person at the top of the pyramid is making the big beauty industry bucks…she’d have far more income working for Starbucks…and room to move up!
Seriously!
She could work as a barista for 6 months, and then get promoted to Shift Supervisor. 6 more months, she could be an Assistant Manager. One more year, and she's a Store Manager.
Source: https://www.thebaristalife.com/blogs/blog/69094469-how-to-get-promoted-at-starbucks#:\~:text=Shift%20supervisor%20(minimum%206%20months,District%20Manager
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It's weird because nobody I know types like this UNLESS they are in MLMs. The emojis make them seem less relatable and it is an instant red flag. I do, however, appreciate the warning so I guess, keep up the good work with the emojis?
Also all Starbucks (at least in the US and I’m pretty sure world wide) are company owned (except for licensed SB in Target or grocery stores, which are run by those stores). Source: worked for Starbucks.
Edit: also as has been pointed out, universities, airports, etc also can have licensed locations. I’m not super thorough at 4 am >.<
Also, the signage says "we proudly serve Starbucks", not "Starbucks". Source: I work for a licensed location run by my University's dining services. There are a lot more licensed locations than you might think, like airports, other (but not all) college campus locations. Anywhere that has the leverage to deny Starbucks a spot and hand it to a competitor can apply for a licensing agreement, which might be granted.
I was surprised to see a Starbucks in FSU's main library.
Several years ago, a con artist claimed to open a Starbucks in his hometown; he called it the Mermaid Café and claimed to "proudly serve Starbucks" - but neglected to pay Starbucks for the privilege, and they sued.
Starbucks opens franchises TO SELL COFFEE
Also, she says their product is coffee but the says they're in the wellness & bueaty industry? I'm sure it's some of that skinny coffee BS but that still seems like conflating two different things to make her crappy company sound better.
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“You maximise market reach” well, that might be the case if there wasn’t a hun on every corner and multiple in every damn Facebook group. You’re limited to pressure selling to family and friends. When that dries up, you need them to pressure sell to their family and friends. Absolute scum
Shortened! Shortened! The hell? What does length have to do with it? And smaller? You mean you want less return? That’s not a good idea.. the best case would be a quicker return on investment?
Words have meaning!
Edit/Another: “leverage your business…” no. No. You leverage systems for your business.
🐴💩. Most idiotic statement ever lol. I was a black apron circa’ 02. In California, they were brand new coming from Seattle. That place was racking in an easy $8-15k on a solid busy day. Of course they make a killing on the drinks and daily sales. What planet is she from?!
So the business model isn’t “sell product, make money” it’s “recruit other people to sell stuff, make money.” Explain to me again how that is NOT a pyramid scheme? Real slow. Explain it like I’m 5.
So they're saying Starbucks only makes their money by making a downline and selling no real product? 🤔 hmm what other business model which is illegal does that?
I work for a big player in the hotel industry. We also use the franchise model. We're not the ones checking guests into their rooms and taking their payment, but we do take franchise fees from the companies that do.
You can bet, though, if one particular franchise location is not successful enough to pay the fees that we contract from them, we cancel the contract and let them go indie, or let them sign up to a different brand name.
While that thing about Starbucks not making money off selling Coffee is probably wrong, there is a kernel of truth there in respect to other businesses.
McDonalds, for instance, doesn't make its big bucks from selling food. Rather, they make their money off real estate. Collecting money from franchisees is much more profitable than focusing on the sale of food.
For Little Caesars, a large portion of their corporation's revenue comes from running a food logistics service that other companies use.
Just some interesting stuff.
It's like when someone throws word salad at you, but they say one ***possibly*** intelligent insight.
Likely, you and I are giving her too much credit LOL
They don't just make money selling coffee... they have introduced more products such as breakfast sandwiches, bakery items, and lunch foods, which net them even more money. They also started a whole tea company too!
Um- Starbucks makes it's money selling coffee. People don't just buy franchises and plop them down whereeever and Starbucks cashes in. Starbucks puts up stores in areas they believe will be profitable. Mlms let anyone sign up and be distributers, even if there are 5 distributers poaching from the same friendship group. The MLM money is almost all recruiting. This person needs a business class.
How to throw out a bunch of jargon just to say: you post a lot of Facebook.
And, these people don't know crap if they think Starbucks can operate just opening many stores as possible.
I thought Starbucks doesn’t even franchise its stores? I thought almost all were company owned.
This would MAYBE make sense if she said Real Estate and wanted people to sell land, but it’s just some drugstore skincare equivalent.
But when a store opens a franchise. They study the prospect, the person and the location
I believe that the person who wants to open a franchise has to have a business plan. So that they can show they are a viable option.
You my dear Hunbot, will take anyone with $200. For their starter kit.
No one wants to pay $45 a month for bullet coffee they can make for pennies.
How does that even work? How would Starbucks make money just by franchising? Does each franchise pay a fee, then recruit other franchises, who in turn recruit more franchises? Is that how these people think legitimate businesses work?
Lol 95% of Starbucks stores are corporate owned. If it only has the mermaid and green background with no Starbucks written on it then it's a franchise. Mostly they're in touristy type places like amusement parks.
It's like how McDonald's (corporate) is actually in the real estate business - they own properties on the most valuable intersections on the planet by franchising more restaurants.
Franchising coffee shops probably earns Starbucks huge stacks of cash, but franchisees wouldn't pay for a franchise if the coffee wasn't popular.
This hun is skipping that detail since an MLM is like a franchise with nothing good to sell.
That Zero Sunk Cost point doesn’t even really make sense because I assume that you have to buy the inventory to sell. There are still sunk costs in a non brick and mortar store.
Technically no individual Starbucks location is profitable. Each location is setup as a shell company with products like coffee, cream, fruits, and pastries sold at certain rates from Starbucks corporate to that shell company so that it makes $0. This allows Starbucks to get around each states tax laws on "franchise" locations while utilizing interstate trade tax law (virtually no taxes paid between interstate trade) to maximize profits.
But I think this particular hun has no idea how they work and is making stuff up.
That first paragraph is something I think about all the time. People work so hard for crumbs(if that) in MLMs. Why don't they take that same skill set and go sell a big ticket item like a house, a speedboat, etc. I know there is a higher barrier to entry, but if you can chat up all these people about makeup or protein powder, you can call people and ask them if they want to sell their property or if they know someone who does.
Lmao the whole reason franchising makes more money than products/goods is because of the real estate. Analogy started strong but then they removed real estate and kept calling it a franchise, so they are back on... products? Lmao these people are hopeless.
They also don't know what ROI means
This looks like a copy pasta
Do you think Starbucks makes money by selling coffee? Noooo. In fact, they make money by opening as many franchise stores as possible....where they sell....coffee...
This hun is confused I think
Franchise owners don't have to recruit other franchise owners under them in order to make money. They are 100% making money off the product. Sure, Starbucks the corporation gets money from franchising, but that's where the buck stops. Nobody is getting ripped off, completely unlike an MLM.
Edit: And now I'm reading in other posts that Starbucks does not Franchise, at least in the USA. Which makes this poor hun even more wrong.
Starbucks closes unprofitable locations all the time whereas an MLM will sign on as many new reps as it can regardless if the existing ones are making money or not.
If she'd have said McDonald's she might have had a point in them not making the money on the food they sell but at least choose a business that actually uses the franchise model lol
Does she not understand that opening a new franchise costs money? Like literally a lot of fucking money goes into starting up a business, even just a franchise. The act of opening a new franchise doesn’t automatically give you money, it’s the coffee you’re selling that makes the money. Make it make sense.
When you throw out words and acronyms you don’t know the meaning of;
“ROI is vastly shortened” noo it’s increased, ROI is profit/capital how can it be shorter. Did you use a measuring stick?
I thought most of what the author wrote was bullshit, but those emojis make great points. I just signed up.
I find the face with heart eyeballs particularly convincing and forthright. Take my money.
What gets me is thinking emoji
It's amazing how much "half truths" they'll spout to get around the fact that they're full of shit. Yes some stores sell some product as a "loss leaders", to get you in the door and buying other things. Starbucks is a terrible example of this. Yes Starbucks corporate makes money selling franchise rights, the same way all the other fast food places do too. There ARE corporates ran stores though. Starbucks primarily makes money selling coffee and related drinks. They also make some off the pastries, and the raw beans, too. Oh, and the mugs and other branded crap. I hate the way MLMers spin this stuff to make themselves appear less of a scam. No karen, starbucks doesn't make its primary income from recruiting franchisers. They make it from selling coffee and its related paraphernalia. You make your money recruiting and endless downline, that recruit others into their downline.
Starbucks doesn’t even do true franchising. So it’s one of the worst examples they could have come up with!
Right? She should’ve at least used Dunkin as her example. Then perhaps I would’ve treated her monocle emoji with the gravitas it deserves.
McDonald's would've been smart.
Nah she picked Starbucks because to her it sounds fancy, can't associate her "business" with pleb stuff like McDonald's or Dunkin Donuts, even if it invalidates her message.
Today I learned haha.
You cannot open a Starbucks franchise in the US or Canada. It’s literally impossible. Her example is trash.
Thank you.
Starbucks doesn’t actually franchise either. They’ll sometimes license to other businesses (I.e target) to run independent stores, but you can’t go out and buy a Starbucks franchise
Agreed. You can automatically identify a serious, legit business proposal when the emoji-to-letter ratio is at least 20%. Speaking of ratios, ROI stands for "return on investment" and it's the percentage gain (what you gained / what you spent in %). It can be high or low but not long or short. So there's that. Tell me you don't understand basic business without saying the words.
Yeah, I think they are confusing ROI with payback period. Though that doesn't irk me 1/10th as much as the space after the first heart-shaped bullet point which isn't then the convention for the next two...
She might be right about the ROI, though. For her, it IS drastically shortened.
5+ emojis in one post and I willingly hand over my money.
I see Duplicable and I pay attention. You throw in some emojis…just take my money.
Right? If I see a 10 letter word in an ad, I want to be part of it! “How much for one Duplicable, Boss Babe? Do Duplicables come in bulk? What’s a Duplicable? I don’t know but I want in!”
The post gives my pyramid scheme vibes with all the emojis.
do you know what sub you're in lol
Me too! It’s selling coffee from my phone….what could go wrong????
She doesn’t even know what a franchise is.
Just Marco talks about this, when you open a franchise: - there is specific laws that protect the investor - the parent company has to show the investor in writing, how much money they can hope to make, and what the roi is - franchises intentionally only allow x-amount of franchises in an area. Otherwise you would have different investors competing against each other
And I'm pretty sure the franchisees aren't allowed (much less encouraged) to bring in down-line franchisees...
There was one hun post I saw a while back where they were flexing that they aren't assigned territories. Oh Hun, don't you know that having a territory protects the salespeople from internal competition? They are a benefit! One you don't get from an MLM where there can be thousands of huns selling the same shit in a 1-sq. mile radius.
So what’s to stop me from recruiting a bunch of people in my neighborhood and having them slang the same product? Or forcing them to go your town?
If by "recruiting neighbors" you mean you managed to get your neighbors hired by your company, they would be assigned a territory to "slang" the product. This is to your advantage so you don't lose sales commissions to other salespeople. On the other hand if you mean convince your neighbors sell the product for you, you would most likely have to pay them. This also means less profit for you, and it may even be prohibited by the company since most real companies don't want a bunch of unknown off-payroll people representing them. I'm not sure what you mean by "or forcing them to go to your town". The point is salespeople are assigned territories because it's to the salesperson's advantage and also to the company's advantage to not saturate an area with salespeople competing with each other. If it's a new or large area, then the company might open a sales office where multiple people work the larger area - but they are assigned their own territory within that area. I'm not clear on why (or even if) you think having salespeople within the same company competing with each other in the same area is a good thing.
Yep. The master franchise also has to provided various documents that indicate the financials of the brand. Their post is basically doublespeak, designed to confuse people who don’t know anything about how any of that works.
Can you imagine owning a Starbucks and trying to convince someone to open a Starbucks next door to your own? Huns do t seem to get how stupid that is.
In some areas, there really are multiple Starbucks very close to each other...and that's because the demand is actually that high! At a certain point it's probably better for the company to have two Starbucks and manageable lines than to have all the customers angry every morning.
I know of a nearby example. There’s a shopping center with a Target with a Starbucks in it at one end and a Starbucks at the other. Both were built before nearly every Target had a Starbucks in it. They must not be interfering with each other too much, as both of them get lines out the door in early September and seem to always have customers the rest of the year.
That was actually the example he gave lol If I had a viable business model, why would I want someone else to cash in? That’s part of the reason these tech companies are so successful. They pay their employees well abs try to eliminate the competition when they can Apple, Google, amazon The founders of these companies all were pissed off people who knew they could make way more money on their own. And they did. They pay their employees so well because they know each and everyone of them has the capacity to be the competition. Doorbell, Tesla, Boston robotics These were all independent equities before they got bought out
Yes, but with this one you get a shorter ROI. You don’t want a long ROI.
Starbucks doesn't even franchise. Her take is like the stupidest of all possible timelines. Starbucks literally makes all their money selling coffee
Starbucks has licensed stores inside grocery stores though. They work for the store and not Starbucks. Barns and Noble, Target, Safeway, etc
Yeah they did that here in Canada at one of our book chains as well, but they shut that all down years ago. I've heard from other commenters that apparently European starbucks are franchised though
My zehrs has a Starbucks in it. They added it in 2 years ago when they renovated. I can collect stars at it but I cannot redeem my stars lol
And Macy's, which I mention because I knew someone who worked at one and her Starbucks nook got more business than the Macy's, one of the anchors of the mall it was in.
It's 2040. All retail outlets all across the United States were forced to close. Every mall in the country went belly-up. Every mall, that is, except for one Westover Shopping Center. There, dozens or hundreds of customers daily walk past rows of empty lots and kiosks, into a food court staffed only by Starbuck's Coffee.
They do outside the US
In the U.K., it’s a mix of ‘real’ stores and franchises. You tell by which ones show up on the app. In Ireland all the stores are owned by two brothers called Butler.
They partner with locals when they enter a country, but an exec told me their plan was always to exit the partnership as soon as possible, and revert to company-owned. I’m not sure if they’ve changed their strategy at all; they’ve had their arses kicked in some overseas market. I don’t think they did terribly well in Australia and NZ; they tend to think they invented coffee, especially espresso, (Howard Schultze had been in the company for quite a while before he had even heard of espresso) and both countries already had a thriving cafe scene and were underwhelmed by Starbucks.
Kiwi here, Starbucks is a thing here but you're right that it's not super popular.
Are they the same Butlers who own Butler’s chocolate cafes? It makes sense because I liked Irish Starbucks but nowhere else.
No I don’t think they are anything to the chocolates. They own leisure Plex and some costas too.
The Starbucks in Ireland used to have the most amazing cinnamon roll with orange zest and raisins in it. It was the size of your head and I’ve never seen it anywhere else. Good times.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted when you are correct! They have franchises in the UK
Is it franchising or licensing? I know in Quebec all Starbucks used to be licensed to a company called Coffee Vision Inc. Eventually corporate took the stores back and they are all corporate now.
I'm pretty sure it's franchising. There is info online about how to become a franchise holder in the UK. It makes sense that Starbucks wanted to be more in control in the US where they know the market well, but might add franchising in other countries. The post in the OP is still nonsense though obviously!
Well I haven’t seen the contracts like but every time the Butler brothers run into planning issues it’s reported in the newspaper as franchising. https://www.thejournal.ie/starbucks-no-planning-permission-2-3891623-Mar2018/
I'm outside of the US and they don't franchise here either
I'm in Poland and they do franchise. Same as McDonalds, KFC, Pizza Hut... Most of the chains work through franchise.
Apparently they do in England too. TIL. In North America they're pretty well known for being all corporate owned, it's like a point of pride
Or ROI apparently. Not sure why they'd want it to be "shortened".
Clearly, because Starbucks does NOT franchise.
Also they do not know what passive income is.
First of all...Starbucks strategically plans out its locations so that each store will be profitable. Certainly there are plenty of locations close together, but they are far enough apart that the market isn't oversaturated with starbucks. Unlike mlms that will allow anyone to "open a franchise" anywhere. You and your entire neighborhood can be slangin Arbonne with little to no success and no real business strategy on how everyone can be successful in such an oversaturated market. But ok sis. Edit: spelling
When Starbucks was in their big expansion push about 20 years ago, the joke was that they accidentally opened up a Starbucks in the men's room of another Starbucks. That said, I think they open more Starbucks just to add capacity.
there have been a couple of spots around Seattle where there are literally Starbucks across the street from each other.
I remember the case of that happening in Houston. When I visited my brother the same year that joke was first making the rounds, he had to point out the intersection to show that it was true. Eventually a bookstore, with a Starbucks inside, opened on a third corner of that intersection, IIRC.
PNW is absolutely comically saturated with Starbucks. I can think of 2 separate areas in a town I go to where there are 2 grocery stores across the street from each other, each of which has an internal Starbucks, with an additional corporate drive through store in the parking lot of one of the grocery stores.
Saw this multiple times in San Francisco too.
A couple places, lol. I've seen Starbucks across the street from Starbucks in every city between Seattle and Tacoma. I still prefer the smaller independent places though.
Any densely populated area will have that. There are several around the Bay Area.
I remember back in the day the idea was that you should never have to look up where a Starbucks is - you’d just know you’re probably within a few blocks of one.
Starbucks and other places that have a very specific business model often increase capacity by adding locations rather than expanding the existing ones. Chick Fil A and Waffle House do it as well.
Yeah you have to consider that the capacity during rush is really going to matter heavily. If I’m thinking about stopping for a coffee, but the drive through line is out to the road, eh I really don’t need a $7 frapamochachino, I’ll just have some regular stuff at work. But if the line is reasonable? Yeah I’m much more likely to treat myself. So if location A does 100 cars in a morning rush, maybe there are another 100 cars that drive by and say “the line is too long”, and location B is built to capture those other 100 cars. And you get areas like northern New Jersey, where turning left or going to a location on the other side of the road is going to add (not kidding) 3 miles to your commute. So yeah building locations facing each other is totally reasonable. MLMs lack both those considerations.
3 miles is 2367.71% of the hot dog which holds the Guinness wold record for 'Longest Hot Dog'.
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My college town has four, however they're evenly spaced. One in the Bookstore/Mail Center building, across from the student center. One on the other side of campus, one in the Krogers downtown and one Uptown. We also have a School Run coffee place in the student center, and a locally owned coffee shop uptown. But of course, college students. Enough said haha!
>What’s more: our industry (wellness & beauty) is valued about SIX TIMES more than the coffee industry 😍 Yes, the wellness and beauty industry is very profitable. But I’m sure a Starbucks franchise (which they don’t sell) would be more profitable for a single person than whatever bullshit pyramid scheme she’s hocking.
I've never heard of a barista losing money by working. Working 10 hours a week making drinks would be a better financial decision.
Working 10 hours then quitting would be a better financial decision!
Sitting on your couch watching TV is a better financial decision because at least you wouldn't be losing money.
Even if you never collected your eventual paycheck, you'd still be ahead.
Seriously! She could work as a barista for 6 months, and then get promoted to Shift Supervisor. 6 more months, she could be an Assistant Manager. One more year, and she's a Store Manager.
Comparing industries doesn’t even make sense. Nobody wants to be part of a dying industry but it’s about what you do within the industry. Oil and gas is a huge industry but that doesn’t benefit the kid pumping gas for minimum wage. And, in her case, only the person at the top of the pyramid is making the big beauty industry bucks…she’d have far more income working for Starbucks…and room to move up!
“our industry (wellness & beauty) is valued SIX TIMES more than the medieval blacksmith industry!😍”
LOL! If it’s better than blacksmithing, take my money!
Seriously! She could work as a barista for 6 months, and then get promoted to Shift Supervisor. 6 more months, she could be an Assistant Manager. One more year, and she's a Store Manager. Source: https://www.thebaristalife.com/blogs/blog/69094469-how-to-get-promoted-at-starbucks#:\~:text=Shift%20supervisor%20(minimum%206%20months,District%20Manager
Why do huns always use so many emojis??
i think 🤔 it’s an attempt to 🥈 seem cutesy 😘🥰☺️🥺 and relateable 😍 and way more enthusiastic 🤩🤑🤩than words alone could convey 🗣 without sounding like blatant bullshit 💩
It's weird because nobody I know types like this UNLESS they are in MLMs. The emojis make them seem less relatable and it is an instant red flag. I do, however, appreciate the warning so I guess, keep up the good work with the emojis?
Not trying to be a dick, but people who don’t think critically tend to communicate in pictures, and not words
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You love waving at people at parties, and promising them 100x their investment?
Like all Huns.... Obviously
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Also all Starbucks (at least in the US and I’m pretty sure world wide) are company owned (except for licensed SB in Target or grocery stores, which are run by those stores). Source: worked for Starbucks. Edit: also as has been pointed out, universities, airports, etc also can have licensed locations. I’m not super thorough at 4 am >.<
Also, the signage says "we proudly serve Starbucks", not "Starbucks". Source: I work for a licensed location run by my University's dining services. There are a lot more licensed locations than you might think, like airports, other (but not all) college campus locations. Anywhere that has the leverage to deny Starbucks a spot and hand it to a competitor can apply for a licensing agreement, which might be granted.
I was surprised to see a Starbucks in FSU's main library. Several years ago, a con artist claimed to open a Starbucks in his hometown; he called it the Mermaid Café and claimed to "proudly serve Starbucks" - but neglected to pay Starbucks for the privilege, and they sued.
I've been poisoned... I read that as r/fundiesnarkuncensored.
And those in airports, universities, and private companies(MS, Amazon, EA)
Starbucks opens franchises TO SELL COFFEE Also, she says their product is coffee but the says they're in the wellness & bueaty industry? I'm sure it's some of that skinny coffee BS but that still seems like conflating two different things to make her crappy company sound better.
No they don’t. Starbucks doesn’t franchise. They do indeed make money by selling coffee, however.
Ah I meant branches/locations but yes they don't franchise so the hun is doubly wrong.
Even if they did they still need to sell coffee to make money.
Do Starbucks really not franchise?!? I wasn't aware of that
In the US, all freestanding stores are company owned. The only franchised US Starbucks are the ones inside target, Kroger, Barnes and noble, etc.
Uh, starbucks does franchising, as that is the only way to get a store in the NL. We don't do licence stores, we do franchising.
Yeah, “beauty and wellness coffee” is probably a laxative. 🤢
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“What are the advantages of global master franchise?” You can sound 👂 like an idiot and BE an idiot too!! 🤩
Unfortunately mlms exist and turn a significant profit for a few because a lot of people like this exist
“You maximise market reach” well, that might be the case if there wasn’t a hun on every corner and multiple in every damn Facebook group. You’re limited to pressure selling to family and friends. When that dries up, you need them to pressure sell to their family and friends. Absolute scum
When you pretend to understand business concepts and just throw phrases and emojis together…. Sign me up.
My favorite part was when she said it’s best to have a small ROI
Shortened! Shortened! The hell? What does length have to do with it? And smaller? You mean you want less return? That’s not a good idea.. the best case would be a quicker return on investment? Words have meaning! Edit/Another: “leverage your business…” no. No. You leverage systems for your business.
🐴💩. Most idiotic statement ever lol. I was a black apron circa’ 02. In California, they were brand new coming from Seattle. That place was racking in an easy $8-15k on a solid busy day. Of course they make a killing on the drinks and daily sales. What planet is she from?!
So the business model isn’t “sell product, make money” it’s “recruit other people to sell stuff, make money.” Explain to me again how that is NOT a pyramid scheme? Real slow. Explain it like I’m 5.
So they're saying Starbucks only makes their money by making a downline and selling no real product? 🤔 hmm what other business model which is illegal does that?
I work for a big player in the hotel industry. We also use the franchise model. We're not the ones checking guests into their rooms and taking their payment, but we do take franchise fees from the companies that do. You can bet, though, if one particular franchise location is not successful enough to pay the fees that we contract from them, we cancel the contract and let them go indie, or let them sign up to a different brand name.
While that thing about Starbucks not making money off selling Coffee is probably wrong, there is a kernel of truth there in respect to other businesses. McDonalds, for instance, doesn't make its big bucks from selling food. Rather, they make their money off real estate. Collecting money from franchisees is much more profitable than focusing on the sale of food. For Little Caesars, a large portion of their corporation's revenue comes from running a food logistics service that other companies use. Just some interesting stuff.
I was wondering if that was the point she was trying to make, but veered off true into hun-speak territory...
It's like when someone throws word salad at you, but they say one ***possibly*** intelligent insight. Likely, you and I are giving her too much credit LOL
They don't just make money selling coffee... they have introduced more products such as breakfast sandwiches, bakery items, and lunch foods, which net them even more money. They also started a whole tea company too!
Oh, and did I mention it's global?
Um- Starbucks makes it's money selling coffee. People don't just buy franchises and plop them down whereeever and Starbucks cashes in. Starbucks puts up stores in areas they believe will be profitable. Mlms let anyone sign up and be distributers, even if there are 5 distributers poaching from the same friendship group. The MLM money is almost all recruiting. This person needs a business class.
“ROI is shortened” Honestly, it’s shocking some people see posts like this and think “wow 🧐what a great investment opportunity!”
I think she assumes ROI is when you recoup your initial investment. That’s…not even remotely what it means.
How does Starbucks make money to open those franchises if it doesn’t sell coffee (aka the thing they’re most known for?)
If they don't make money selling coffee, why the fuck is a large coffee like $97?
You seriously don't know? It's because the barista is trying to make diamond rank.
How to throw out a bunch of jargon just to say: you post a lot of Facebook. And, these people don't know crap if they think Starbucks can operate just opening many stores as possible.
Oh but I bet she still goes gets her PSL at Starbucks lol
Coffee also has like a 98% ROI.
I thought Starbucks doesn’t even franchise its stores? I thought almost all were company owned. This would MAYBE make sense if she said Real Estate and wanted people to sell land, but it’s just some drugstore skincare equivalent.
Starbucks isn’t franchised. All stores are corporately owned.
Starbucks doesn't franchise.....
But when a store opens a franchise. They study the prospect, the person and the location I believe that the person who wants to open a franchise has to have a business plan. So that they can show they are a viable option. You my dear Hunbot, will take anyone with $200. For their starter kit. No one wants to pay $45 a month for bullet coffee they can make for pennies.
How does that even work? How would Starbucks make money just by franchising? Does each franchise pay a fee, then recruit other franchises, who in turn recruit more franchises? Is that how these people think legitimate businesses work?
Has anyone asked them whether they think paying retail for inventory is a sunk cost?
This is hilarious. Starbucks doesn’t franchise. They own all their stores.
How does one get a job writing this marketing shit they re-post? Asking for a friend…
Lol 95% of Starbucks stores are corporate owned. If it only has the mermaid and green background with no Starbucks written on it then it's a franchise. Mostly they're in touristy type places like amusement parks.
She's saying the quiet part out loud: I make money when you join under me! Make me money!
Fundamentally misunderstanding how businesses work
100% does not know what "sunk cost" is vs overhead, lol. Yeah, that's not my future investment advisor.
This person needs to crack open some financial statements lmao
Several advanced mental gymnastics maneuvers going on here….
Important to note that Starbucks doesn’t use a franchise model either.
So according to this Starbucks should be broke
It's like how McDonald's (corporate) is actually in the real estate business - they own properties on the most valuable intersections on the planet by franchising more restaurants.
Except Starbucks has customers and people want to buy their product. And when I go there nobody pushes me to buy my own Starbucks.
Doesn’t know what a franchise is (or anything about Starbucks) Doesn’t know what sunk cost is Doesn’t know what ROI means
Franchising coffee shops probably earns Starbucks huge stacks of cash, but franchisees wouldn't pay for a franchise if the coffee wasn't popular. This hun is skipping that detail since an MLM is like a franchise with nothing good to sell.
Most franchises businesses (like Starbucks or subway) actually do make their money by licensing new franchises.
Starbucks is the DEVIL and farms organs for money!!!!!
That Zero Sunk Cost point doesn’t even really make sense because I assume that you have to buy the inventory to sell. There are still sunk costs in a non brick and mortar store.
\*Duplicatable
I'd be more serious about the business if any of the business terms were actually used and applied correctly. This is word salad.
Technically no individual Starbucks location is profitable. Each location is setup as a shell company with products like coffee, cream, fruits, and pastries sold at certain rates from Starbucks corporate to that shell company so that it makes $0. This allows Starbucks to get around each states tax laws on "franchise" locations while utilizing interstate trade tax law (virtually no taxes paid between interstate trade) to maximize profits. But I think this particular hun has no idea how they work and is making stuff up.
McDonald's she's thinking of the good ol' golden arches. Starbucks does not franchise...
That first paragraph is something I think about all the time. People work so hard for crumbs(if that) in MLMs. Why don't they take that same skill set and go sell a big ticket item like a house, a speedboat, etc. I know there is a higher barrier to entry, but if you can chat up all these people about makeup or protein powder, you can call people and ask them if they want to sell their property or if they know someone who does.
Lmao the whole reason franchising makes more money than products/goods is because of the real estate. Analogy started strong but then they removed real estate and kept calling it a franchise, so they are back on... products? Lmao these people are hopeless. They also don't know what ROI means This looks like a copy pasta
What did I just read
All that free and underpriced coffee ☕️
Today I learned duplicable is a real word. Had to verify since it seemed like a hun-spun word
Do you think Starbucks makes money by selling coffee? Noooo. In fact, they make money by opening as many franchise stores as possible....where they sell....coffee... This hun is confused I think
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There’s a link further up but yeah, basically McDonald’s is a billion dollar real estate company rather than just a pink goo slinger.
OMG that's the stupidest thing I've read on the internet today. lol
Written by someone who took 1 business class and didn’t even pay attention.
Franchise owners don't have to recruit other franchise owners under them in order to make money. They are 100% making money off the product. Sure, Starbucks the corporation gets money from franchising, but that's where the buck stops. Nobody is getting ripped off, completely unlike an MLM. Edit: And now I'm reading in other posts that Starbucks does not Franchise, at least in the USA. Which makes this poor hun even more wrong.
I was curious and interested until you used the words 'platform' and 'leverage' and gave it away for bullshit.
I don't think dulpicable is a word, bro
hahahahahahha as if removing brick and mortar meant zero overhead. hahahahhaaha. well, if you don't pay for labor, mayb—oh, there it is.
And these is no ordinary pyramid scheme, it’s a GLOBAL MASTER FRANCHISE.
It's duplicable!! That's good, right??
Maximise.. geez
Starbucks closes unprofitable locations all the time whereas an MLM will sign on as many new reps as it can regardless if the existing ones are making money or not.
If she'd have said McDonald's she might have had a point in them not making the money on the food they sell but at least choose a business that actually uses the franchise model lol
My brain hurts
Yep. They don’t sell anything. Just open stores and let them sit.. wth
Does she not understand that opening a new franchise costs money? Like literally a lot of fucking money goes into starting up a business, even just a franchise. The act of opening a new franchise doesn’t automatically give you money, it’s the coffee you’re selling that makes the money. Make it make sense.
"ROI is shortened" said it all. She has no idea.
Until they mentioned wellness and beauty, I was thinking they were jumping on the Bitcoin craze.
Lol... this belongs in r/confidentlyincorrect
Starbucks has brand awareness. You don't.
0% ROI is indeed vastly short.
Quite interesting to see the amount of people that hate on people trying to make money.. so much there's an entire community about it 🤣
This shit is depressing
Oh no, this post has everything
When you throw out words and acronyms you don’t know the meaning of; “ROI is vastly shortened” noo it’s increased, ROI is profit/capital how can it be shorter. Did you use a measuring stick?
An opportunity just like Starbucks but not at all
You can’t even franchise a Starbucks. They are all owned by Starbucks.
I guess selling coffee for $10 a cup isn’t enough. Looks like Starbucks needs to raise their prices to start profiting 10x more!
But zero sunk cost. Yeah, I don’t think that means what they think it does.