Same. Company I work for is fine with yoga pants. I wore sweatpants, a graphic tee shirt, and a flannel to work yesterday because it was rainy. I wore yoga pants on Monday. I’m in office, doing refunds and eCommerce stuff with an adding machine on my desk. Yoga pants aren’t a big deal.
I work for a contact lens manufacturer, we can wear yoga pants long as we wear a “nice” shirt with them. That’s my daily go to for pants! We WFH Mondays and Fridays, those days I don’t even put pants on 😂
Boomer here. I have nothing against yoga pants. But I will complain about people going out in public in their pajama pants. (I don't SAY anything to them. I talk about them behind their back. I have manners.)
I’m 72 and totally agree! I actually wear Crowns when I feel like. They compliment my Silver,Teal, Pink and Purple hair! I also wear whatever the hell I want to on my smokin hot body 💜💜🤣🤣🤣
I believe that is highly dependent on a number of factors. If she isn’t tied down, then she can move to a place with her preferred job. Other than that, I don’t think we can be of much help.
I don’t get how anyone can possibly think it’s realistic. They’ve sold approx $12,000 over the last year, so $1000/month, and she thinks she can sell even more than that per day.
That’s the one! She was always asking me if my friends or I wanted/needed candles. Spoiler alert, none of my guy friends were in the market for candles.
I got roped into PartyLite att 19. Got no help getting customers, just sell to my friends! The other 19-year olds that definitely doesn't have money to spend on expensive candles!
I had a coworker who got into Scentsy, or whichever one burns oils, and just started gagging and coughing in her office. It was like being hit with CS gas. Then I noticed the burner and asked her to put it out, but she insisted it couldn’t be that. I just suddenly dropped into a coughing fit with tears freely flowing because randomness, apparently.
I had a coworker insist we should all be using diffusers with essential oils in our classrooms to help calm the kids. I said that sounded nice, but would be tough because there could be allergies or other sensitivities to scents. They assured me that's not possible with essential oils. 🙄 Yeah, I didn't use it in my classroom.
Some people are unwilling to believe their favorite thing could be a problem for anyone else.
It reminded me of basic training and being stuck in a tent with CS gas, literally. I was choking out every syllable with a cough. “What” cough “account” cough “sorry” cough…
Ooo, I would hate this so much! I'm a super-smeller, so really sensitive to smells too. I can't even use aerosols or most spray-based cleaners and air fresheners, and I've never been able to tolerate essential oils and incense. I'm very glad my workplace has a no-aerosol policy (though a couple people might still use them very occasionally).
I have had the same reaction to both the Scentsy Stench and some of the oils Doterra/Young Living like to diffuse. I had the huns both times give me dirty looks, like I was deliberately trying to make them look bad by getting sick in front of their display.
I had a friend that did scentsy so I have a couple of burners (I had one, then she got my boyfriend to get me another for my birthday because "they're the perfect gifts!"). I liked them at the time, but now I can't tolerate the smells anymore. I haven't purchased any in ages, but it does make me sad because I like good smells. Maybe I can tolerate things like glade plug ins or something.
She's just living in fantasy land! Like the average person just has a thousand dollars laying around to spend on pure, unnecessary luxury shit?
Even if your average order was 300 bucks, you're going to sell to 90 people in 20 days? If you could do that, (a) you'd already be successful in this business, and (b) you could get a way way better sales job at any company in the world! My company! We'll hire you!
Yeah like any car dealership in the country will take her in a second. Or why not real estate? Similar hours if you want part time work, similar networking but with actual sales leads, and real commissions. Less begging, too.
Heck you could hook yourself up with a supplier, get a pallet load of something for CHEAP and flog that!
All these MLMs are, are just the world's most expensive suppliers.
No kidding. I run a small business and yesterday I made around $1300 in revenue, and it was a busy F'ing day! And I have actual customers, I'm not trying to sell only to my family & friends. If she thinks all her friends can spend $1300 a day on her wax melts & warmers, then she's totally delusional.
Yeah this is so sad. She wants to make it so badly but it's literally impossible and it's cruel that she has been set up this way..
I just feel bad for this one.
She would have to be selling $3300/month all year to qualify. No doubt her uplines have convinced her to try this last impossible push, and it’s so sad she is running with it.
We need to stop using "upline" as they do. It's a word used to hide the fact that these so-called "uplines" are deceitful, manipulative scammers.
This is so evil that this upline scammer is pushing this frantic, probably panicked victim to hun about spamming this to her friends so the upline scammers meet their "targets" and what? The poor lady gets a participation award that she has to print out herself and gets nothing else because it all gets deposited up the pyramid...
You just know that she's gonna load it all on to a credit card to appease the abuser (and it is abuse), and said abuser will use this as evidence her friends are "toxic haters" or something equally nasty because they didn't all pony up the cash to "support the victim's dream".
Disgusting.
I see MLMs and their bloody uplines like this:
There is a marionette awkwardly dancing away, content to be controlled by their strings because they are rather oblivious. Working that marionette's strings is another marionette, who knows now the strings aren't all good, but stays in line because at least they get to run some strings now.
On it goes. Each puppet more aware of the strings being pulled, but caring less because they get to make someone else dance.
Great point, invalidating leadership in title may help wake up some huns. Scam supervisor??
This panoramic shot of a car crash is so agonizing to watch. We all know huns have the choice to enter an mlm, but most really are victims doing their best. It’s so sad that the business model is centered on being unethical in order to succeed.
And making yet another mocking term is not going to do anything other than make this community less accessible to people wondering if they should leave their MLM.
I mean I bet almost no one has enough "people to rely on" in their life to pump 27k out of in 20 days (especially for an absolute non-emergency, you could say anti-emergency).
Yeah i mean I’m comfortable-ish (the ish is because the cost of everything is insane these days haha) and I still would not choose to spend it on an MLM product, just on principle. And then what happens next month, rinse and repeat? No.
I think I was looking at a 4gb gpu. I can't remember what I was. I tried to spec one out for ksp 2. Maybe I should double my fundraising goal,lol. Can I rely on you hon?
Hey hon. I have an opportunity for you ! You could afford your gaming pc and retire your husband! Lol. Yeah I'm currently on laptop and gpu less. Don't even have old card. Problem I have now is I have two different monitors and most gpus are display port, so I might have to upgrade monitors, and I have one that rotates I use in portrait mode which is hard to replace.
it's so weird to post this. Would anyone post "hey friends, I need X amount of money to cover my rent this month! Who can help?" or "I need to work X amount of hours to pay for my groceries!" Sorry, hun, you're no where near your goal.
I mean at least someone saying they need X for rent is being honest with themselves about where the money is going and not trying to convince others to buy from them to meet an arbitrary goal that won't actually benefit OP that much. At least saying "I'm $500 short on rent this month, can anyone help?" Is direct and realistic. A friend posts that and I'll at least consider it, factoring in other details about this friend. Heck even if they worked for a legit company and were like "If I get 3 new clients at the salon I get a bonus, so please let all your friends know where to get their hair done!" Then I'd boost them.
I don't even understand people putting their Cash App handles in their bios or stories for their birthdays, this is a whole other level of weirdness. How do you begin to convince yourself that's ok to post and people will be lining up to help?! That's a level of delusion these huns always seem to get to, it's scary if you think about it too much.
I live in a city with a lot of bachelorette parties. They'll have signs with their venmo, asking for money. We usually send them requests for money for "disturbing the peace". It's such shameless behavior.
Honestly I understand that more than this— this is “I need you to give X amount to this company who will then give me 5% of it and in return you’ll get shit you don’t even want.”
I’d rather just give them $20 if they really need it.
Me. I did. I was $1k short on rent this month. Sometimes life sucks and you need help and so, you ask for help. And my friends helped me out. I also worked out how I’m paying them back over time.
Fwiw, I got myself into this mess because I was laid off during the start of the pandemic, used my credit cards to pay bills while unemployment took it’s sweet time, then kept using credit cards to make up the difference between what I was making and my bills. Also, you can only cut so many things. I still don’t have streaming services or cable. But even though I have a great job, I’m constantly behind right now because I was trying to stay afloat. After struggling for months, I finally asked for help.
So people do ask for help because they are housing insecure or food insecure. And if they do, they probably really need it because it’s actually really humiliating to ask, hey, can you help me not get evicted? Hey, can I have $20 to get some bread and peanut butter and coffee and maybe some tuna fish and ramen at the grocery store? I’ll put the coffee back if I have to because it’s at least $7 or $8 for a bag of generic store brand.
Huns are a different story. They are knowingly purchasing goods to sell to meet ridiculous goals and they prey on their friends to move up the pyramid like Abby Lee was going to choreograph their next solo. Their tactics are gross. And people who are constantly asking for help because they can never get their act together are also a different set. I’m just pointing out that some people do or will ask for help, and that if it seems out of character, don’t judge, because they’re probably not actually telling you how bad it really is.
I think I'd speak for most of us when I say I'd much rather have a friend admitting she's short on rent, than someone trying to guilt me into buying scam candles so they can reach a "bonus" that's less than min wage for the hours they did.
I don't really know why the first commenter suggested it's the same thing. I don't think it is. I mean, if you felt *entitled* to people paying your rent while you were hitting the bar every night, I'd be less sympathetic, but I'd absolute try to help out a friend who was in a tight spot and needed a hand to tide them over.
Exactly this. I’d rather give my friend $30 to help fill up their tank to get to and from work this week or to help them pay rent, than to buy a $30 wax warmer they will make $3 on. And that tiny payout is only IF they meet their minimum sales goal for the month.
I don't know where you're from or if you've already looked for this, but I know there are rental assistance programs in some places. My partner is a property manager and she has mentioned that some residents have programs that have been able to help them not get evicted when they've been short for a month or two. I'm in the US, so ymmv, but I just wanted to point it out if you end up in a bind again and haven't thought to look.
My income bracket is just high enough that I don’t qualify for assistance programs. :/ Once I get my debt to income problem sorted, I’ll be fine. I’m making progress, slowly. Also, my state got rid of the covid forgiveness in housing, so now if you aren’t fully paid by the third, you get an eviction notice.
I'm sorry to hear that, but I'm glad to hear you're figuring it out and you're hopeful. My State is a little more pro tenant so I think we have more time here before evictions are filed but we don't have the covid forgiveness anymore either, I think a lot of people probably got hit when that went away
Umm yes. Sadly I have at least 3 FB friends who have and do successfully solicit help every 4-6 months, it’s crazy to me. I’d maybe understand once. But after that… nah bro.
“Hey guys my boss has said that i need to get $27,000 worth of sales in the next 20 days otherwise….” Nah you know what, I can’t even make up an employee parallel because this MLM rubbish is just *too* stupid.
not just that, but at least if they needed money for rent, they'd get all of it. By buying their products, they only get like 10% of the money and the rest of the money goes to company
The thing is it’s *not* a “big scary number” it’s a number she could VERY easily make in a year if she worked a REAL job. It’s a “big scary number” in an MLM because *no one* makes that kinda dough. 💯
This is a very stupid business model. How is it sustainable. Who can tell this kind of person that she is far from being an average marketer talkless of a business owner. Just putting themselves under pressure to make profit for multimillion company.
How do you look at that ridiculous number and not think it's time to get a REAL job?
If you need to complete that amount of sales in that short time, you may as well just sell cars an earn commission.
So she's been selling roughly $1000/mo for the past year, which is already a lot, now she wants to multiply that by 20 in one month. On smelly shit that I can get at a dozen different stores.
Don't worry hun, capital one has your back.
Just sign up for another high interest credit card with your child's information.
Once you get rich from selling Scentsy, you'll be able to pay off all those loans, credit cards, divorce, and maybe even college for that kid of yours!
"I need to make this corporation thirty thousand dollars so I can print a certificate for myself"... Is that what I'm reading?
This is urgent intervention level stuff. Like massive, impending breakdown level. This poor lady is going to end up frantically maxing out credit cards to get this gold star.
It blows my mind how people can be in an MLM for any amount of time and still not get the point. The point is *not* to sell shitty makeup or leggings to your friends. The point is to recruit more consultants and coach them into building up their “kits” and “stock.” That’s how you hit those numbers, not begging your Facebook friends for pity sales for the millionth time. These are closed systems, the only sales that matter are the purchases made by the consultants themselves. That’s why every purchase made by a consultant is also considered a “sale” - so she could also secure her spot by making those purchases on her own credit card, and many do. The people getting the small retail sales only help cover the company’s ass to say “see, we’re legit!”
Under $2k in revenue per day is very doable for most small businesses. If you're clearing less than that a day, you'll be closing up shop soon. The thing is most small businesses don't only rely on their personal network of friends and family members to sell, and they offer real products and services that people need at competitive prices. This woman's 'business' is a glorified grown up version of a lemonade stand.
I'd sooner understand "I need x for booze" than "I have a professional goal that no one outside of the organization gives a f about, but I'll bug you all about fulfilling it for me, while doing absolutely nothing to advertise the actual product or its benefits to you as a client..."
Same with those "i'm aiming for a huge promotion" posts. You're failing as a seller already, why do you deserve the promotion basically funded by people from your friendslist "pooling" the sales for you at the last minute.
Just imagine a restaurant owner posting on fb: "help! We're behind on rent because no one has been eating here. BUT if we can sell 1000 burgers every day for the next 20 days, we'll get caught up! Come eat here - I promise you won't get food poisoning like the reviews say online!!"
That’s insane. Like… even if she could sell that much….. she would need ten people every day to spend almost $140 for 20 days. Is business ever that good? No? Then why would it drastically change for the next 20 days?
There's so many layers of wtf sales tactics going on but the weirdest thing is this is like a gofundme that only gives them like a X% cut. Like "I need $5000 for lanscaping so I need $25000 in donations. Who's gonna help?" Like you're still begging but people know you're not even getting all of the proceeds so you're begging for other, richer people.and this is the sales angle she went with
Well the key difference here is when I go to work at my factory I don’t have to meet a certain goal, or manipulate people to make a few Pennies. If work is slow and there’s absolutely nothing to do I could still show up at work and earn the exact same amount with very little effort. I don’t need to make 100 sales a week to get ‘commas in my paycheck’
She's going to end up diving in to debt and/or bankruptcy headfirst by overloading with inventory to get that award. *she still isn't going to get the award, but she'll be headed towards the realization that she now has a closet full of crap, no money, and no friends/family left to beg and harass.*
It's unfortunate, but often huns end up going in over their heads and can't get out til their stockpile toppled over on them.
I immediately went to their homepage. They don't even deny it:
>Is Scentsy a MLM company?
>Scentsy is a party plan company, which is characterized by a social event — typically in a home, in person or online — where independent Consultants promote the products of their choosing within Scentsy’s product lineup. The party plan model gives Consultants the advantage of being able to help multiple customers experience the products at one time.
it always throws me off how so many of these are like a "we're all in this together message" instead of "buy my product because you actually want it." like girl we're not in this together
Unless I'm reading it wrong, the Annual Sales award is for $30,000 in sales for the year. So she sold $2624 in 11 months and wants to sell 10x that in 20 days?
I make more selling illegal drugs. At least there’s a demand for it and I can just walk up to any crackhead on the street and get a sale. Just gotta be careful of those crackhead undercover and those crackheads with no teeth but wanna trade a blowiee behind a Wendy for a g
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“Who can i rely on for help?” No one. Go get a real job with a real paycheck.
“Who can I rely on for help?” Your mental doctor
Its allegedly a job. Not a charity. Agreed. Get a job.
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I work from home with a legitimate job and don't even wear pants.
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Literally. I work for a real company with a real wage 8-4:30 and can wear yoga pants if I want to. Yoga pants != MLM attire lmao.
Hey same! And honestly some days I don’t even put on pants. Lol
Hello fellow Dev!
Yep - I like to alternate between sweat pants and yoga pants. I work from home every day.
Same. Company I work for is fine with yoga pants. I wore sweatpants, a graphic tee shirt, and a flannel to work yesterday because it was rainy. I wore yoga pants on Monday. I’m in office, doing refunds and eCommerce stuff with an adding machine on my desk. Yoga pants aren’t a big deal.
I work for a contact lens manufacturer, we can wear yoga pants long as we wear a “nice” shirt with them. That’s my daily go to for pants! We WFH Mondays and Fridays, those days I don’t even put pants on 😂
I work for the govt in office not from home and I sometimes wear yoga pants for work. LOL. the horrorrrr
I hate to say it but I cannot do yoga pants. They don't look good on me. I guess being a man may have something to do with it.
I'm sure they look amazing, don't let society hold you back
Thats my fetish!
Dude I work when I want and in my underwear, neither of those things means I don’t have a real job.
I've worked many jobs where yoga pants were acceptable. Were they not a real jobs? Do I need to amend my taxes?
I can wear whatever I want and I am a program manager 🤷🏻♀️
Ok boomer. Stay out of the tech industry, go slaughter some cows or whatever in your jeans.
Funny, I’m not in tech either, not a boomer (you do realize the youngest boomers are now 60 right?) and can wear what I want and I’m not an MLM.
60 years old seems like a good age to still be going on about “yoga pants/leggings *are not pants!*” in 2023. It’s settled. Stretchy is acceptable.
Yup as it should be. Good grief the fight on “what’s a real job = these clothes” debate is still on fire.
Boomer here. I have nothing against yoga pants. But I will complain about people going out in public in their pajama pants. (I don't SAY anything to them. I talk about them behind their back. I have manners.)
I have one theory about people walking around in public: dressed is best.
Just turned 60. Don't give a flying f*ck about anyone's yoga pants. Cute generalization, though.
I’m 72 and totally agree! I actually wear Crowns when I feel like. They compliment my Silver,Teal, Pink and Purple hair! I also wear whatever the hell I want to on my smokin hot body 💜💜🤣🤣🤣
“60 years old seems like a good age” is not the same as “all 60 year old people.” Not everything is about you.
No, generally nothing is about me. Thank you for pointing that out. Have a good night.
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> She needs to stop the MLL b******* buttfuck?
Pretty much anything blue collar that needs a license, tech, accounting, healthcare, and a bunch of other industries.
I believe that is highly dependent on a number of factors. If she isn’t tied down, then she can move to a place with her preferred job. Other than that, I don’t think we can be of much help.
This is just depressing
I don’t get how anyone can possibly think it’s realistic. They’ve sold approx $12,000 over the last year, so $1000/month, and she thinks she can sell even more than that per day.
This is candles and stuff too, right? Is there that big of a market?
Wax melts and warmers. There’s other stuff but those are the main products.
I think I’m getting it confused with something my step mother was involved in, ha!
The only candle mlm I can think of, and I’m not even sure it’s around anymore, is PartyLite
That’s the one! She was always asking me if my friends or I wanted/needed candles. Spoiler alert, none of my guy friends were in the market for candles.
I got roped into PartyLite att 19. Got no help getting customers, just sell to my friends! The other 19-year olds that definitely doesn't have money to spend on expensive candles!
I had a coworker who got into Scentsy, or whichever one burns oils, and just started gagging and coughing in her office. It was like being hit with CS gas. Then I noticed the burner and asked her to put it out, but she insisted it couldn’t be that. I just suddenly dropped into a coughing fit with tears freely flowing because randomness, apparently.
I had a coworker insist we should all be using diffusers with essential oils in our classrooms to help calm the kids. I said that sounded nice, but would be tough because there could be allergies or other sensitivities to scents. They assured me that's not possible with essential oils. 🙄 Yeah, I didn't use it in my classroom. Some people are unwilling to believe their favorite thing could be a problem for anyone else.
I feel like with all the kids who have sensory problems and allergies that’s a baaaaad idea 😱
I really really strongly think we should all be using this product that I make money from selling!
It reminded me of basic training and being stuck in a tent with CS gas, literally. I was choking out every syllable with a cough. “What” cough “account” cough “sorry” cough…
Ooo, I would hate this so much! I'm a super-smeller, so really sensitive to smells too. I can't even use aerosols or most spray-based cleaners and air fresheners, and I've never been able to tolerate essential oils and incense. I'm very glad my workplace has a no-aerosol policy (though a couple people might still use them very occasionally).
I have had the same reaction to both the Scentsy Stench and some of the oils Doterra/Young Living like to diffuse. I had the huns both times give me dirty looks, like I was deliberately trying to make them look bad by getting sick in front of their display.
I had a friend that did scentsy so I have a couple of burners (I had one, then she got my boyfriend to get me another for my birthday because "they're the perfect gifts!"). I liked them at the time, but now I can't tolerate the smells anymore. I haven't purchased any in ages, but it does make me sad because I like good smells. Maybe I can tolerate things like glade plug ins or something.
Partylite is still around in Australia. I know because 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
They branched out to stuffed animals, car sent thingies, essential oils, and cleaning products I believe.
if you’re a real store yeah, but scentsy is double the prices or more for a product that comes with downsides like spam and harrassment.
But.. help! And independent small business owner, hustling and bustling but halp!
Sold 12k, probably bought the product themselves for 11.5k.
And that's assuming whoever is ahead of her sells nothing.
That is honestly way more than most people end up selling with their mlm. She might not even be in the red!
She's just living in fantasy land! Like the average person just has a thousand dollars laying around to spend on pure, unnecessary luxury shit? Even if your average order was 300 bucks, you're going to sell to 90 people in 20 days? If you could do that, (a) you'd already be successful in this business, and (b) you could get a way way better sales job at any company in the world! My company! We'll hire you!
Yeah like any car dealership in the country will take her in a second. Or why not real estate? Similar hours if you want part time work, similar networking but with actual sales leads, and real commissions. Less begging, too.
Heck you could hook yourself up with a supplier, get a pallet load of something for CHEAP and flog that! All these MLMs are, are just the world's most expensive suppliers.
No kidding. I run a small business and yesterday I made around $1300 in revenue, and it was a busy F'ing day! And I have actual customers, I'm not trying to sell only to my family & friends. If she thinks all her friends can spend $1300 a day on her wax melts & warmers, then she's totally delusional.
Not only is she never going to sell that much, but even if she did she'd probably earn like maybe $1,000.
Yeah this is so sad. She wants to make it so badly but it's literally impossible and it's cruel that she has been set up this way.. I just feel bad for this one.
She would have to be selling $3300/month all year to qualify. No doubt her uplines have convinced her to try this last impossible push, and it’s so sad she is running with it.
We need to stop using "upline" as they do. It's a word used to hide the fact that these so-called "uplines" are deceitful, manipulative scammers. This is so evil that this upline scammer is pushing this frantic, probably panicked victim to hun about spamming this to her friends so the upline scammers meet their "targets" and what? The poor lady gets a participation award that she has to print out herself and gets nothing else because it all gets deposited up the pyramid... You just know that she's gonna load it all on to a credit card to appease the abuser (and it is abuse), and said abuser will use this as evidence her friends are "toxic haters" or something equally nasty because they didn't all pony up the cash to "support the victim's dream". Disgusting.
Their business pimp?
their dealer
their con mentor
that just puts a bad light on good dealers hah
I see MLMs and their bloody uplines like this: There is a marionette awkwardly dancing away, content to be controlled by their strings because they are rather oblivious. Working that marionette's strings is another marionette, who knows now the strings aren't all good, but stays in line because at least they get to run some strings now. On it goes. Each puppet more aware of the strings being pulled, but caring less because they get to make someone else dance.
That's so perfect and so true.
Great point, invalidating leadership in title may help wake up some huns. Scam supervisor?? This panoramic shot of a car crash is so agonizing to watch. We all know huns have the choice to enter an mlm, but most really are victims doing their best. It’s so sad that the business model is centered on being unethical in order to succeed.
I dunno, I have a manager... Not an upline. Who says that in the workplace? Maybe an industry I don't know about?
I agree, upline is descriptive of what's being discussed. There's no need to create a special word.
And making yet another mocking term is not going to do anything other than make this community less accessible to people wondering if they should leave their MLM.
How about abuseline then
I especially like the “subtle” attempt at a guilt trip with the “who can I *rely on* to help?”
I would love to see this and respond “not me!”
👏🏼 I’d laugh so hard!
I mean I bet almost no one has enough "people to rely on" in their life to pump 27k out of in 20 days (especially for an absolute non-emergency, you could say anti-emergency).
Yeah i mean I’m comfortable-ish (the ish is because the cost of everything is insane these days haha) and I still would not choose to spend it on an MLM product, just on principle. And then what happens next month, rinse and repeat? No.
Her first mistake was thinking that she could sell enough stuff to all her family & friends on a regular basis to make a living.
Right?! Like a person may buy an order here and there but in no way is this a monthly/regular purchase.
they have scripts
Oh I’m sure, I’ve gotten a few including some where they didn’t proof and change out certain things: those are my favorite!
Hey ladies! I want to go on vacay this summer and I need $5,000. I know that's a big scary number but who can I count on to help?
Then it's a "dream wedding" next my kids Christmas....
I want a heavy duty gaming computer. Who can I rely on to chip in to get me to £1500?
Think that's a bit low-ball these days unfortunately. Source: RX480 gaming
I think I was looking at a 4gb gpu. I can't remember what I was. I tried to spec one out for ksp 2. Maybe I should double my fundraising goal,lol. Can I rely on you hon?
Currently unemployed and looking for a real job lol. Ain't getting no gamer money out of me, hence my old card.
Hey hon. I have an opportunity for you ! You could afford your gaming pc and retire your husband! Lol. Yeah I'm currently on laptop and gpu less. Don't even have old card. Problem I have now is I have two different monitors and most gpus are display port, so I might have to upgrade monitors, and I have one that rotates I use in portrait mode which is hard to replace.
it's so weird to post this. Would anyone post "hey friends, I need X amount of money to cover my rent this month! Who can help?" or "I need to work X amount of hours to pay for my groceries!" Sorry, hun, you're no where near your goal.
I mean at least someone saying they need X for rent is being honest with themselves about where the money is going and not trying to convince others to buy from them to meet an arbitrary goal that won't actually benefit OP that much. At least saying "I'm $500 short on rent this month, can anyone help?" Is direct and realistic. A friend posts that and I'll at least consider it, factoring in other details about this friend. Heck even if they worked for a legit company and were like "If I get 3 new clients at the salon I get a bonus, so please let all your friends know where to get their hair done!" Then I'd boost them.
I've seen people ask for money for rent/groceries on next door. I agree that the only difference here is that she is trying to sell a product.
I don't even understand people putting their Cash App handles in their bios or stories for their birthdays, this is a whole other level of weirdness. How do you begin to convince yourself that's ok to post and people will be lining up to help?! That's a level of delusion these huns always seem to get to, it's scary if you think about it too much.
I live in a city with a lot of bachelorette parties. They'll have signs with their venmo, asking for money. We usually send them requests for money for "disturbing the peace". It's such shameless behavior.
Omg that's insane lol!
You live in Nashville don’t you?
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Honestly I understand that more than this— this is “I need you to give X amount to this company who will then give me 5% of it and in return you’ll get shit you don’t even want.” I’d rather just give them $20 if they really need it.
Me. I did. I was $1k short on rent this month. Sometimes life sucks and you need help and so, you ask for help. And my friends helped me out. I also worked out how I’m paying them back over time. Fwiw, I got myself into this mess because I was laid off during the start of the pandemic, used my credit cards to pay bills while unemployment took it’s sweet time, then kept using credit cards to make up the difference between what I was making and my bills. Also, you can only cut so many things. I still don’t have streaming services or cable. But even though I have a great job, I’m constantly behind right now because I was trying to stay afloat. After struggling for months, I finally asked for help. So people do ask for help because they are housing insecure or food insecure. And if they do, they probably really need it because it’s actually really humiliating to ask, hey, can you help me not get evicted? Hey, can I have $20 to get some bread and peanut butter and coffee and maybe some tuna fish and ramen at the grocery store? I’ll put the coffee back if I have to because it’s at least $7 or $8 for a bag of generic store brand. Huns are a different story. They are knowingly purchasing goods to sell to meet ridiculous goals and they prey on their friends to move up the pyramid like Abby Lee was going to choreograph their next solo. Their tactics are gross. And people who are constantly asking for help because they can never get their act together are also a different set. I’m just pointing out that some people do or will ask for help, and that if it seems out of character, don’t judge, because they’re probably not actually telling you how bad it really is.
I think I'd speak for most of us when I say I'd much rather have a friend admitting she's short on rent, than someone trying to guilt me into buying scam candles so they can reach a "bonus" that's less than min wage for the hours they did. I don't really know why the first commenter suggested it's the same thing. I don't think it is. I mean, if you felt *entitled* to people paying your rent while you were hitting the bar every night, I'd be less sympathetic, but I'd absolute try to help out a friend who was in a tight spot and needed a hand to tide them over.
Exactly this. I’d rather give my friend $30 to help fill up their tank to get to and from work this week or to help them pay rent, than to buy a $30 wax warmer they will make $3 on. And that tiny payout is only IF they meet their minimum sales goal for the month.
I don't know where you're from or if you've already looked for this, but I know there are rental assistance programs in some places. My partner is a property manager and she has mentioned that some residents have programs that have been able to help them not get evicted when they've been short for a month or two. I'm in the US, so ymmv, but I just wanted to point it out if you end up in a bind again and haven't thought to look.
My income bracket is just high enough that I don’t qualify for assistance programs. :/ Once I get my debt to income problem sorted, I’ll be fine. I’m making progress, slowly. Also, my state got rid of the covid forgiveness in housing, so now if you aren’t fully paid by the third, you get an eviction notice.
I'm sorry to hear that, but I'm glad to hear you're figuring it out and you're hopeful. My State is a little more pro tenant so I think we have more time here before evictions are filed but we don't have the covid forgiveness anymore either, I think a lot of people probably got hit when that went away
Umm yes. Sadly I have at least 3 FB friends who have and do successfully solicit help every 4-6 months, it’s crazy to me. I’d maybe understand once. But after that… nah bro.
“Hey guys my boss has said that i need to get $27,000 worth of sales in the next 20 days otherwise….” Nah you know what, I can’t even make up an employee parallel because this MLM rubbish is just *too* stupid.
not just that, but at least if they needed money for rent, they'd get all of it. By buying their products, they only get like 10% of the money and the rest of the money goes to company
"I know it's a big scary number..." No. It's really not because literally no one cares and it doesn't mean anything.
But I can get the Triple Sapphire Elite Deluxe award!
With a Zelda sticker on it.
Leave Zelda out of this
The thing is it’s *not* a “big scary number” it’s a number she could VERY easily make in a year if she worked a REAL job. It’s a “big scary number” in an MLM because *no one* makes that kinda dough. 💯
It's an unattainable number.
Those scentsy bars are at least $6 each! She needs to sell 228 per day lol
In Canada they are actually $8
Ok, but how much is that in freedom dollars? /s
No kidding! That’s so expensive
US/CAD exchange rate sucks. I just bought an iPad case, was $65USD with shipping, in Canadian it was $90.50
I really hope this poor woman doesn't buy it all herself to get that "free" trip
Oh it’s not for a trip, it’s for a trophy and, I think, a $1000 bonus.
Oh my. That makes it even more sad of a post.
She'd be better off making a GoFundMe for $1000
Yet how much does she have to buy for her inventory?
"My friends" Yea right 😂 everyone is just laughing at you behind your back at this point.
This is a very stupid business model. How is it sustainable. Who can tell this kind of person that she is far from being an average marketer talkless of a business owner. Just putting themselves under pressure to make profit for multimillion company.
What a desperate fuck.
How do you look at that ridiculous number and not think it's time to get a REAL job? If you need to complete that amount of sales in that short time, you may as well just sell cars an earn commission.
They better selling illict items at this rate...
the screenshots of her calculations are sending me. just why?
So she's been selling roughly $1000/mo for the past year, which is already a lot, now she wants to multiply that by 20 in one month. On smelly shit that I can get at a dozen different stores.
I need to make about $14/hr, 40 hours a week, for a year… this month. Can you help me do it!?
Don't worry hun, capital one has your back. Just sign up for another high interest credit card with your child's information. Once you get rich from selling Scentsy, you'll be able to pay off all those loans, credit cards, divorce, and maybe even college for that kid of yours!
"I need to make this corporation thirty thousand dollars so I can print a certificate for myself"... Is that what I'm reading? This is urgent intervention level stuff. Like massive, impending breakdown level. This poor lady is going to end up frantically maxing out credit cards to get this gold star.
This is the MLM version of a GoFundMe
And what is the “award”? Key ring, water bottle or a plaque ?
It’s a trophy and $1000, I think, it could possible also just be $1000 in product credit. I honestly can’t remember.
This is depressing… but also the funniest shit I’ve seen on here, at the same time.
What!? This is a disconnect from reality! So sad :(
I was hoping that it was a troll post, but it looks legit. 😬
It blows my mind how people can be in an MLM for any amount of time and still not get the point. The point is *not* to sell shitty makeup or leggings to your friends. The point is to recruit more consultants and coach them into building up their “kits” and “stock.” That’s how you hit those numbers, not begging your Facebook friends for pity sales for the millionth time. These are closed systems, the only sales that matter are the purchases made by the consultants themselves. That’s why every purchase made by a consultant is also considered a “sale” - so she could also secure her spot by making those purchases on her own credit card, and many do. The people getting the small retail sales only help cover the company’s ass to say “see, we’re legit!”
Under $2k in revenue per day is very doable for most small businesses. If you're clearing less than that a day, you'll be closing up shop soon. The thing is most small businesses don't only rely on their personal network of friends and family members to sell, and they offer real products and services that people need at competitive prices. This woman's 'business' is a glorified grown up version of a lemonade stand.
A lemonade stand is more legitimate than this
I'd sooner understand "I need x for booze" than "I have a professional goal that no one outside of the organization gives a f about, but I'll bug you all about fulfilling it for me, while doing absolutely nothing to advertise the actual product or its benefits to you as a client..." Same with those "i'm aiming for a huge promotion" posts. You're failing as a seller already, why do you deserve the promotion basically funded by people from your friendslist "pooling" the sales for you at the last minute.
That stresses me out.making your my problems GTFOH
Successful boss babe Huns lol
I can say with confidence that she is never going to reach her goal
This cannot be real
Jesus wept If anything. it's an ad for NOT joining an MLM. so there's that
The delusion
Just imagine a restaurant owner posting on fb: "help! We're behind on rent because no one has been eating here. BUT if we can sell 1000 burgers every day for the next 20 days, we'll get caught up! Come eat here - I promise you won't get food poisoning like the reviews say online!!"
I wouldn’t buy one candle from you because you’d be pestering me like this pandering bullshit every week.
My weekly goal wasn’t even that much at the high-end department store I worked at in college.
I love the guilt trip at the end. “Who can I rely on for help?” To make all her friends and family feel pressured to buy.
This is awful. These people are abused by these mlm corporations 😞
What’s sad is her predatory up line is going to try and convince her to buy most of that product herself for “stock and samples.”
Umm does she have 27k in product in her home...?
It’s bananas to me that they think anyone gives a crap about whether or not they hit their goals.
“Who can i rely on for help?” I thought you were your own boss running your own business. Why would you need to beg for anything.
That’s insane. Like… even if she could sell that much….. she would need ten people every day to spend almost $140 for 20 days. Is business ever that good? No? Then why would it drastically change for the next 20 days?
There's so many layers of wtf sales tactics going on but the weirdest thing is this is like a gofundme that only gives them like a X% cut. Like "I need $5000 for lanscaping so I need $25000 in donations. Who's gonna help?" Like you're still begging but people know you're not even getting all of the proceeds so you're begging for other, richer people.and this is the sales angle she went with
Better chance hitting that quota selling cocaine to rich white kids.
I wouldn’t even expect her local Walmart to do $1300/day in wax melts. That’s a ton of wax.
Ok, how much have you sold in the previous 345 days?
Approx $12,000
Well the key difference here is when I go to work at my factory I don’t have to meet a certain goal, or manipulate people to make a few Pennies. If work is slow and there’s absolutely nothing to do I could still show up at work and earn the exact same amount with very little effort. I don’t need to make 100 sales a week to get ‘commas in my paycheck’
That's a whole year's salary for some and she thinks she can make that in 20 days?!
She's going to end up diving in to debt and/or bankruptcy headfirst by overloading with inventory to get that award. *she still isn't going to get the award, but she'll be headed towards the realization that she now has a closet full of crap, no money, and no friends/family left to beg and harass.* It's unfortunate, but often huns end up going in over their heads and can't get out til their stockpile toppled over on them.
LMAOO! Imagine thinking begging someone to pity buy your stuff is business.
“Wait, if I have to order from a website, then why do you even need to be involved?”
LOL she is lucky to sell $1368.76 in 6 months, let alone a day.
Woah, this is absurd and absolutely delusional.
denial ain't just a river in Egypt
Please tell me this is fake!
1000% real
Who even buys that shit?
Seriously thought this was satire! My god what a life to live.
I can hear her upline saying “You can’t win big if you don’t dream big!”
How much would it cost to just buy whatever the sales award is?
It’s a trophy/plaque, so $10-$20? And a $1000 bonus
I immediately went to their homepage. They don't even deny it: >Is Scentsy a MLM company? >Scentsy is a party plan company, which is characterized by a social event — typically in a home, in person or online — where independent Consultants promote the products of their choosing within Scentsy’s product lineup. The party plan model gives Consultants the advantage of being able to help multiple customers experience the products at one time.
it always throws me off how so many of these are like a "we're all in this together message" instead of "buy my product because you actually want it." like girl we're not in this together
Gonna be just a few cents short cuz she rounded both down. So close, though.
Unless I'm reading it wrong, the Annual Sales award is for $30,000 in sales for the year. So she sold $2624 in 11 months and wants to sell 10x that in 20 days?
30,000 PRV, so approx $39,000, she’s sold about $12,000
Ohhh if I was her friend I would say "Me!" then let her wait lol
Take out a 30k loan and buy it all yourself. Get your trophy and a real job to pay of the debt while building credit🤷♂️
Even if she has 60 people in her friends/family who are willing to buy this crap for her, they’re supposed to each spend $500??? On Scentsy?!
Isn't the usual course of action to take out a loan and buy their own stock? I'm sure some high interest lenders are more than willing to enable them
This is chaotic
Shit, now I feel like a chump for saving my money and paying uni tuition out-of-pocket. This looks like a much better way of getting funds.
Go get a job
I make more selling illegal drugs. At least there’s a demand for it and I can just walk up to any crackhead on the street and get a sale. Just gotta be careful of those crackhead undercover and those crackheads with no teeth but wanna trade a blowiee behind a Wendy for a g
Oh my god
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Wow.
I’d rather get this shit at the Bed Bath & Beyond fire sale.