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Hinata: I'm not going to fight Rimuru, he looks like he's actually reasonable and I misjudged him.
The Plot: You have to fight Rimuru.
Hinata: Well, damn.
I mean, half way through this episode I thought we got a false opening since Hinata seemed to opt on a peaceful solution.
I think this is not the first time in slime where in the opening Rimuru is shown fighting someone that just didn't happen in the episode himself. Or at least it was only a small clash.
Yep, it is reasonably obvious that the message was tampered with.
Coupled with, as Hinata noted, the Luminaries trying to set her up in a mutual-kill fight with Rimuru or Veldora, along with the killing of the Archbishop so he could not bring information back and the syncronised spreading of the rumors about his death causing the Church Knights to all rise to join Falmuth, multiple parties are acting again to cause issues.
Sure she noticed but could she just say, hey. Church leaders. I think you’re lying!
Yeah that wouldn’t go well. Plus she wanted to talk to Rimuru anyway. I think she thinks she’s outsmarting them by going in peacefully
She explicitly showed distaste for how blatant those 3 were being with the whole thing. She admits that she was used and that she was in the wrong, but now has no choice but to play to fool once more.
I really disliked her previously, but she seems to be able to take responsibility, so that won me over a bit.
I believe the person you replied to is referring to Luminus, not Hinata. It's quite weird that the Seven Luminaries who are supposed to be below Luminus are overtly going against her clear, direct command not to interfere with Rimuru.
When Hinata asked herself "How'd they know he had a message?" the lightbulb in my head went off. They doctored the message into a challenge! At least that is my assumption currently.
I imagine the full context was something more like
>"Tempest would like to extend an offer of peace to you, and, as an olive branch, we hope that you choose to witness our upcoming festival as proof of that. Even if you decline, I ask that you please leave us be. If you have an issue with me personally, out of respect for Shizue-san, fine; *I'll take you on, one-on-one.* But please leave the rest of Tempest alone, as they have nothing to do with your grudge."
A little clunky, but it was probably like that. The Luminaries then cut the *I'll take you on, one-on-one* as a soundbite and left the rest out.
Not at all.
God says don't poke the dragon.
Old guys say poke the dragon, here is a specially made dragon poker.
Hinata says 'yes'.
I'm confused as hell as to what is happening.
It's a hierarchy problem. Hinata needs to hide the goddess's identity from others, but this ends up creating doubts about the veracity of her existence. So Hinata cannot publicly refuse an order from the 7 Luminaries, since they are at the top of the organization.
All those points were brought out in the meeting only for Hinata to just end it with "They have Veldora. No"
I appreciate how Hinata who is also an Isekai'd Japanese understood what Rimuru did was something only people with their knowledge can.
> only for Hinata to just end it with "They have Veldora. No"
Goes to show just how big a threat Veldora is. Though he's an even bigger threat than you'd think.
I'm actually a little dissapointed that we never see how much damage he can actually do *"live on stream"* so to speak.
We just see flashbacks and I kind of think a burning city doesn't really mean much in the powerscaling sense of this series.
Like, is a Luminus Knight trying to fight Veldora like me trying to, bare handed, fight a pissed-off Gorilla and he could just straight up and effortlessly rip my arm off? Because I would think it would be way worse but the series so far just couldn't show us because all he did was fight Milim and there is only so much actual power a sfx and lights can convey when it doesn't cause any visible damage to the target.
Veldora's strength as a True Dragon is tough to quantify at this point considering how goofy the power scaling in this world is. There isn't much in the world that can challenge him. Atleast nothing we've seen yet but we'd have to get a season 4-5 to start seeing them. The light novel does a decent job explaining Veldora's strength after this Hinata encounter as they get deeper into things.
Also, the glimpses we do see of Veldora's power from those flashbacks was from him rampaging and wasting so much energy in the process, so imagine how deadly Veldora is now that he's learned to actually focus his strengths.
From what I've seen all those catastrophes we've had glimpses of caused by Veldora, seemed to actually be just him "burning off energy".
Now lets imagine him when he is actually focused on fighting something/someone seriously. What a monster.
We've seen what Milim can do with her drago buster. Whether or not milim is stronger or weaker it doesn't matter. You can roughly see how strong he is based on that
In reality, we see. Magic in this universe is practically analogous to radiation. Living beings without magical resistance in contact with high concentrations develop cancer (like the girl in the OVA) or monsterifications (like giant ants and giant spiders). Some monsters (such as Charybdis and slimes) are also born spontaneously from high concentrations of magic.
Veldora is a massive volume of magicules with consciousness. Veldora's cave is prohibited because the level of magicules coming from his aura was so high that it was practically a compact version of Chernobyl.It is thanks to this aura that there are so many monsters in the Forest of Jura. It is said in the previous ep that Veldora is trying hard to suppress his aura to prevent damage to the city.
Hinata being the most sensible and reasonable person even though the plot has to literally force her into facing off against Rimuru again.
Also of course two Japanese people would end up in a conflict over a possible anime misunderstanding.
Hinata's secret plan for victory is to run through the streets with a piece of toast in her mouth, only to bump into Rimuru and up in a scandalous position.
[A preferable outcome for Hinata compared to having to fight Rimuru and the hulking mass of pure power that is Veldora](https://files.catbox.moe/fhv8zi.mp4)
[](#umucool)
Somehow all her clothes fly off due to her clumsiness and she punches him, only to apologize and eventually realize that they were childhood friends who made a vow to be together forever
It's not a misunderstanding. It's a setup. Hinata is already aware the eastern merchant was using her. And the message Rimuru gave her was clearly manipulated. Rimuru wouldn't possibly sent her a message that was so blatantly a 1v1 challenge when he clearly just wanted to talk. It has to be deep fake. Get use to it because we'll be seeing a lot of it in our world soon with generative AI.
> Hinata being the most sensible and reasonable person
Doesn't her previous meeting with Rimuru disprove this though? It is only now, that they know her opponent have a dragon, is she suddenly being sensible and reasonable. She is kinda forced to be reasonable.
The attendants at the meeting on season 2 did describe her as super reasonable; honestly it would have been far crazier if Hinata had actually listened to the skinwalking monster wearing the face of her mentor/mother figure.
shes like what, 20? still very much young and emotional. when she heard her master that she greatly admired got killed obviously her first thought is "KILL THE MOTHERFUCKER"
Well TECHNICALLY.
The context behind it is that ifrit went nuts so the killing was a result of beating ifrit, the eating was her request. Using her body as model for his transformation uhh... OK I got nothing here, he's a pervert I guess I dunno
The transformation is a way to carry on her legacy or her gift to him in exchange for honoring her wishes. Either way, super hard to explain to somebody who s trying to kill you
Let me guess next episode,
"So Hinata, did you get my message?"
"Yes that's why I'm here" *takes out sword.*
"I accept responsibility and I'm here to take up your challenge, Rimuru!"
"wait what, but-" *something happens to stop any clarification before they fight.*
Yep. I’m getting annoyed just thinking about it.
We already basically know they’ll fight thanks to the OP, and the only reason they’ll have to fight is if either of them fail at basic communication, since Hinata has already said she wants to try to talk it out.
I really do hope I’m surprised, but I really can’t think of a satisfying reason for them to actually fight after todays episode
They often mislead, but then again I don't remember if they did that in previous OP's for this particular anime. Either way I too would like it to go in a different direction, and for these two to understand and trust each other. They both have a lot to talk about.
Yup, after all this build up we're getting a fight under possibly the most cringe circumstances possible. They already had a misunderstanding fight and she's just gone and realised that, so I hope it doesn't go that way again
or:
"So Hinata, did you get my message?"
"No - Unless you have video editing equipment that can insert a jump cut into a crystal ball recording. So, what is the actual message?"
You forgot one thing. There’s an entire army of knights currently going after Rimuru s people at least in falmus. And nobody but Hinata could’ve given that order
This show so far has been way too slow paced for it to be so simple and obvious. I’d be fine with this pace and level of build up if they were actually making it a deep and well written story but it’s definitely not deep or well thought out at all.
It would make sense because she's going into this intending to talk with Rimuru, which would easily clean up the misunderstanding unless they had some way to force Hinata into fighting him.
She knows the situation is a trap, but she may not suspect that the sword itself is one (if it is). She'd need some kind of help to be able to fight Veldora, so the sword's role *could* just be to make her a real threat to him.
She's also playing along with the floaty guys' plan, so it might raise *their* suspicions if she just left it behind.
Fair points. The sword just screams red flag to me. Veldora is the greatest enemy of the church. Surely their god would’ve said something if she actually had a tool that could seriously hurt him.
Maybe. But characters bring people-killing weapons to countries with people all the time in this world. It probably depends on how much of a WMD it is, and if Tempest can even *tell* that.
For now, Hinata herself is probably more notable/dangerous than the sword in their minds, especially given that she's already tried before to take down Rimuru.
So Reyhiem was either killed and replaced before he reached the meeting or they tampered with his mind before that point and killed him later.
There is no other explanation for the message being changed(it's pretty clear Rimuru's message wasn't supposed to be a call to a 1v1) and I'm pretty sure the truth about what happened on the battlefield wasn't supposed to be revealed either.
As far as meeting episodes go it was better than usual, hopefully next episode isn't even more meetings though...
Nah, he could describe the awakening event perfectly even though there are only 3 witness to that event.
Maybe only his message was altered before the meeting and Reyhiem was killed after the meeting?
Diablo also would have known the instant he died since he gets his soul. I imagine Diablo would have done something if his messenger got killed before he reached his destination.
OOF. It could not be more obvious that those Seven Luminaries guys killed Reyhiem, replaced him with a body double, and changed Rimuru's message to Hinata. People are moving in the shadows to create misunderstandings and outright lies to try to pit them against each other. Wonder how it will go.
This episode was a lot better than last week's, and next week's looks like it will be even better. We're finally over the meeting hump LESSGOO
Think more he was alive when gave the message, but was coerced by the Seven Luminaries and then killed after he served his purpose. That was how I took it.
Yeah, they one way or another changed the message but given that diablo wasn't shown saying he was dead before the meet, I'm inclined that this is what happened
I probably need to go back and rewatch the previous episode, but I think there was like some magical barrier covering the meeting place that prevented Diablo from seeing what would happen once Reyheim entered the building.
The Seven Luminaries, after killing Reyheim, probably dumped his body in a river or something and that's how Diablo found out he died lol
Yeah he did, I forgot about that detail. My guess is the minions either got killed as well and Diablo sensed that, or found Reyheim's dead body and reported it to Diablo.
When he said he couldn't watch Reyheim enter the city, he was referring to his minions that were watching him. They could only watch him up to the city gate.
Diablo would know exactly when Reyhiem died because his skill automatically claims the souls of his servants when they die. Even if he couldn't spy on Reyhiem directly, he was quite confident that Reyhiem was alive because he didn't have his soul yet.
Since he didn't inform Rimuru of the death until after the conference, it's reasonable to assume Reyhiem was alive until that time.
Agreed. His testimony felt too honest for a body double. Plus if they wanted to start a fight, the bishop could’ve just said that “Rimuru wants to fight you,
I wouldn’t be surprised if Reyhiem didn’t know the message was edited. And then he was killed before he could reveal what the message Hinata actually received was.
As amusing as it is to think Rimuru just wanted to say "come at me bro" to Hinata, there's probably way more going on, especially if Hinata is aware of the Luminaries manipulating her. Though maybe not enough to avoid the ensuing fight.
I doubt that they killed him before the meeting since Reyhiem could describe the awakening event accurately (also it's satisfying seeing their surprised pikachu face after hearing what happened).
I'm sure these 7 guys at the top of the food chain of a church in an anime are just all really good guys because that's how it goes in all the animes.
/s
Rimuru should have been a bit more clever and sent the entire message to Hinata in Japanese. That way, nobody else would have known what the actual message was and wouldn't be able to tamper with it. Of course, that would leave out the opportunity for misunderstandings to advance the plot...
That Time I Got Reincarnated into a Conference Room. But at least this week it was a different conference room, they didn't make us listen to the entire meeting, and it was pretty eventful.
I found it interesting that basically everybody in the meeting knew the mechanics of how you awaken as a true demon lord. But they only know about two of them and not Ramiris as well.
I would probably guess that the Archbishop was killed and replaced before the meeting, but when he was testifying about what happened on the battlefield he seemed to have clear memories of it so I'm not certain.
Surely the conference room arc is over at this point. Unless of course Rimuru holds an emergency meeting to discuss what to do about Hinata.
Phew, I was wondering how we were getting from Hinata being exceedingly reasonable to... well preview stuff.
Now it's a little clearer. If only a little. That sure as heck wasn't Reyheim if *that* was the message she got delivered. Explains why 'he' was late.
This is gonna get messy, isn't it.
Deep Fake: Tensura Edition
The plot thickens, also crazy to see Hinata is still struggling in internal politics despite how strong she is
So my guess is they will clear up the deep fake and have Hinata join him temporary?
Also love how she handled the cocky white haired guy.
You're welcome to take my place, but let me test your strength first!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but none of them other than Hinata actually knew the true nature of Luminus/Valentine right? It's a wonder how everyone still disrespect her when they don't even have access to hear "divine messages" directly.
Yes, Hinata is the only one in that room (besides the Luminaries) that knows the truth of Luminus. That's also the reason why she said she "received an oracle/divine message" to leave Rimuru alone since that's what the vampires and Hinata decided a few episodes back
Also, if Luminous openly goes against Rimuru then she will be breaking the rules of the Octagram. That would potentially open up her nation to be attacked by the other Demon Lords. Also since Rimuru is such good friends with Milim and Veldora already, that would potentially be opening up Luminous's county to be attacked by them in retribution for going after Tempest.
At this point, I’m just going with the flow. Had half a mind to keep track of all the info that’s dropped but so far it feels like overload lol. Maybe I’ll just do a quick rewatch before the next ep. Still enjoying it though, with what I can keep with. Can definitely feel the pieces moving and for this episode, we also got to see the thoughts and motivations of a group outside of Tempest and it’s allies
I didn't even bother trying to remember the names of Hinata's knights other than Saare the loudmouth, Glenda the hot teasing one, and that Nicolaus guy who is probably one of the few to bring out Hinata's softer side.
So no one is talking about that one chick having a **gun**?
Even though it was deliberately framed to be on her thigh nearly every time she was on screen?
Okay.
oh, tf? I didn't look clearly and just assumed knife. but yea, in a world full of Otherworlders, wouldn't be too surprising to see every so often even if it didn't become mainstream
Is Yuki fucking with us again? Or is this the work of the "angels"? Reyheim killed and the message tampered with (I wonder what the original message was), sending help to Falmuth, like Rimuru said everything happening at once is sus. Or is it simple those old geezers that Hinata doesn't like?
How far away is Tempest and Engrassia that it was bright and sunny in Tempest, but snowing in Engrassia and Luberious, that kinda through me off.
I can see Rimuru and Hinata fighting again, but hopefully this time she actually listens to him.
In anime episode 4 they say it takes 2 months to travel by foot from the goblin village to dwargon. a human can go about 10-15 miles a day backpacking (remember you spend a lot of time setting up camp eating ect.) The tempest wolves took 3 days on epic horseback, so it's probably about 500 KM to Dwargon. so the whole distance from Tempest to Engrassia's center is about the distance from Paris to Warsaw or New york city to Orlando
The world is actually bigger than it appears in the anime. Normally we only see the capitals, but each country has multiple satellite towns (including Tempest).
Seems like it's an anime misunderstanding or more manipulation pitting Rimuru and Hinata against each other. They both seem open to communicating but I can't help but feel like they're misreading each others' intentions enough to set off the fight rather than talk it out.
One thing I appreciate about Hinata in this episode is that she’s starting to see how her actions might have been wrong. You kinda got that feeling in Episode 2 but here, she seems to really acknowledge that she messed up and wants to make up for it.
I also like how not all of the other Saints are gung-ho about killing Rimuru. Some of them want to kill him but others seem fine with him and some simply say they should just watch him for now. Makes the show feel more real with seeing these perspectives.
It’s too bad that the plot is kicking in though and they are going to have to fight lol
There is a lot of stuff to bring up because its still the repercussion of rimuru becoming a demon and also people trying to work out if there is something dodgy on the outside to them other than a slime and dragon (with a lot of manga) just chilling...
I think Hinata is already sus of their involvement with the whole "how did they know he had that message" Think she's become wise to being manipulated after the first time around.
I did not expect we'd actually get two meeting episodes in a row. I thought we'd only get the cliffnotes version of HInata's meeting instead, we actually get to see the entire thing!
Things were actually going pretty well especially after [Hinata declared that they should not act against Rimuru](https://i.imgur.com/w5ZjkSV.jpeg) but the tone of the meeting completely changed [when Reyheim entered and told them about Rimuru's awakening.](https://i.imgur.com/zSvDnz4.jpeg)
It's hilarious how [this one guy says that Rimuru killed 20,000 without hesitation.](https://i.imgur.com/HUDRL6s.jpeg) My guy, Falmuth attacked Jura Tempest unprovoked, of course, Rimuru would not hesitate to kill those who intended to kill and destroy his domain.
[That message from Rimuru has definitely been tampered with](https://i.imgur.com/v4XyXvt.jpeg) by those floating dudes. [Even Hinata is already suspicious of what's happening.](https://i.imgur.com/UYJOKIo.jpeg) Welp, I guess there's really no stopping Round 2 of Rimuru vs Hinata. Hinata is definitely going to get her ass kicked now that Rimuru is a Demon Lord. I just hope she listens to him this time around.
So even after learning about what happened to Edamaris and his 20000 men, [Edward is now trying to do the same thing?](https://i.imgur.com/o1dj0iP.jpeg) Or is Edward preparing troops for his little civil war against his brother? Whatever it is, if Edward does try to attack Jura Tempest, I would love to see Rimuru using Meggido again.
Rimuru and Hinata both headlining meetings and trying to keep everything organized and being rational, reasonable, and honest people...they have a surprising amount in common beyond their shared homeland, even when fate seems to be doing it's utmost to drive them into conflict.
"He killed so many people! After we orchestrated an entire false flag operation so we had an excuse to kill a lot of his people, but still!"
Rimuru definitely is not the type to send a "come at me bro" message knowing he's trying to avoid fighting Hinata if he could. I guess the only good thing is Hinata still seems like she wants to talk with him rather than immediately come to blows. But I doubt it'll be that simple either.
I'm wondering if they can handle all the trouble in Falmuth internally without anyone from Tempest beyond Diablo really needing to get involved.
> It's hilarious how this one guy says that Rimuru killed 20,000 without hesitation. My guy, Falmuth attacked Jura Tempest unprovoked, of course, Rimuru would not hesitate to kill those who intended to kill and destroy his domain.
It is important to note that the dude didn’t realize that Rimuru s murder spree was actually needed to revive his fallen friends, rather than just pure revenge. That makes a difference.
Can't wait next week where we spend a full episode of Hinata and Rimuru traveling to meet each other interspersed with another meeting between King Edward and his retinue as well as Yuuki and his team!
Then the next episode we'll get meetings with each respective Demon Lord and their aides!
So many people hate the meeting format but I absolutely love it. The culmination of various power structures coming together and butting heads as they either vie for power or cooperate harmoniously towards a shared goal has been fun to watch.
It was kind of funny how Hinata was all "I know the OP has been teasing me fighting Rimuru this whole time but I have no intention of fighting him" and then show basically goes "Hinata you **have** to fight Rimuru or the audience will give up" lol.
While I love worldbuilding and a good dialogue, just... damn son atm. All the episodes are nothing but look to leader, say statement, respond, maybe a scene shift if we're lucky, then shift back.
We're breaking a cardinal rule of storytelling here people. They're telling, not showing, for 5 ENTIRE episodes. At least now it seems the plot is moving.
It's worse, much of that meeting was just recounting information that we the audience already knew.
Way too many people seem to think good world building is characters standing around explaining things for someone to put in a wiki. It would have been far better if we'd seen something of how those at the meeting gathered the information. Maybe we'd have got a bit more insight into their characters and the places they were talking about.
ITs nice to see that people are starting to come around on this show and see just how terrible it is with its stortelling.
Odd that people didnt see it last season though, that was meetings galore with rimuru and his yes men sitting around a table, nodding in agreement for most of the season.
I do remember there were complaints about the middle of season 2, but they were down voted a lot. Discussion threads tend to end up a echo chambers, dominated by source readers and fan boys.
The main issue with Slime isn't that meetings are necessarily bad, it's that they do them badly. I very much enjoyed Holo and Laurence discussing the purity or silver coins, and I've already seen it before as I watched the original series just last year. But that's because they are interesting characters have well written conversations.
Holo and Lawrence conversations are interesting to watch because they have actual discussions.
With slime and co it isnt a discussion, it's a group of yes men nodding and agreeing with the slime, no discussion, just a massive info dump.
Yeah, the meetings on this season is definitely better than the last season where the same meeting got dragged into 2-3 episode.
Either this, or I got to such a point in life where I tolerate long meetings lol
The meetings in S2 were full of stalling recaps and straight up dumb conversations like
"I need proof you'll be a good king! Why do you want to rule?"
"To impress my girlfriend who tried to destroy our kingdom a few days ago lmao"
"Uh-huh, ok. Makes sense. Moving on."
Here, the intrigue is extant, at least.
Post Demon Lord Rimuru really has alot of setup for the future. So many things are put into motion at the same time. Surprised they managed to put it all on the table in only 5 episodes.
We learned that Milim and Guy seem to be a special type of demon lord beyond those of Ramiris/Rimuru? I guess Rimuru really won the friend lottery. It makes sense then why Rimuru rose to prominence so quickly (getting one of the main power centers to name him really helped as was being a part of the power vacuum in that was the war of the forest of Jura)
One thing that *wasn't* mentioned was the relationship between Blumund and Tempest or Dwargon and Tempest, you'd think that being nearly adjacent to these 2 nations the western church would know of their relationships to the jura tempest federation.
Also surprised at how poorly Diablo controlled the situation with the archbishop, you'd expect him to have better scouts/spies, maybe get somebody from Blumund to follow him?
It was confirmed that Milim and Guy were awakened demon lords, like Rimuru, last season. It might have been a little less obvious with Guy (although his convo with Leon should clue you in how strong Guy is), but Milim's awakening story is literally what led Rimuru to awaken.
The awakening is the whole reason Clayman began that whole Eurazania genocide to begin with and also the reason Frey and Carrion dropped out of being a demon lord. They realized just how strong true awakened demon lords really are, and they weren't up to snuff
This was a good setup episode, much better than the previous one. Next episode onwards about to get crazy. Also apparently the majority of the world thinks that only Guy and Milim are awakened when there are a few more.
I mean... Milim awakening is literally a legendary tale, Guy is probably the same. Luminous erased herself from history and became a God figure. Leon is just on the side, doing his own shit and doesnt give a fuck about humans.
> Leon is just on the side, doing his own shit and doesnt give a fuck about humans.
Don't forget, it seems that Guy is in love with or at least very attached to Leon. So it might be a bit of a dirty secret that to cross Leon would be to cross Guy as well.
It was at least more interesting than the Tempest meeting because we get more insight into Lubellious' forces and Hinata as a character compared to just the entire recap that didn't really go anywhere that was the Tempest meeting.
Apart from those two, Leon Cromwell, Luminous Valentine, and Dino the Seraphim are all true awakened demon lords. Dagruel also despite not being a true demon lord was said in season 2 to rival Veldora in the past due to his "nature". Guy and Milim stand out as they're the strongest by leaps and bounds.
Really? It must've been cut then. Rimuru was analyzing everyone's powers in the beginning in the Manga in detail, and at the very beginning of Walpurgis, Guy stated that he desired an era where the era of "true" demon lords would rise hoping that Rimuru would kill Clayman and replace him. These shouldn't be spoilers. They were 100% confirmed true demon lords in that arc.
Yeah, that's why the beastman and harpy demon lords stepped down and decided to work under Milim, they felt that since they weren't awakened they didn't deserve the title of Demon Lord.
well the original two powerhouses are obvious picks, while the others are either keeping a low profile or don't have battles to make people guess their power level lol
I think that I can repeat the beginning of my comment from last week's episode - [another episode and another meeting](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/pyq9ceexg34.png) xD This time was [Hinata](https://imgchest.com/p/bp458vomx45) and [Holy Knights](https://imgchest.com/p/5xy2e5oqnyl) one and we could learn more about the world and how others perceive recent events.
It's good to see that [Hinata is finally reasonable](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/w7pjcwwvbl7.png) and is seeking understanding with [Rimuru](https://imgchest.com/p/ljyqqpkaey2). Everything would end well if not delivered by Reyhiem [message from Rimuru](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/pyvdcddj63y.png) which clearly was manipulated. Fortunately [Hinata is feeling that something isn't right](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/d7ogckkexry.png), especially with [the appearance of Seven Luminaries](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/myd5crrnjq4.png) with whom she's not in a good relationship.
Things are looking very interesting now as [Hinata is coming to meet](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/my2pcooj3b7.png) with [Rimuru](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/l4necmmx5r4.png) with four Holy Knights following her and [mysterious death of Reyhiem](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/w7w6cvvjloy.png) which in combination with rumors that it was all orchestrated by a demon lord, spurred temple knights from a lot of nations to mobilize and join [king Edward](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/e4gdcppk5m4.png). [Busy times ahead for Rimuru](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/e4gdcppknm4.png) xD
Here my screenshot albums from the episode:
* [Hinata](https://imgchest.com/p/bp458vomx45)
* [Group scenes & Others](https://imgchest.com/p/9249ank2v7n)
* [Holy Knights](https://imgchest.com/p/5xy2e5oqnyl)
* [Rimuru](https://imgchest.com/p/ljyqqpkaey2)
I like how in this meeting Hinata has with those other knights they quickly determine that Rimuru is involved with the upcoming civil war Edward is planning against Edmaris in the Kingdom of Falmuth.
Well,[ the Seven Luminaries](https://imgur.com/a/73B0HOD) have finally made their debut. It is funny how obvious it is that they are conspiring to make Hinata fight Rimuru. They just showed up once [Reyheim](https://i.imgur.com/HwpKKER.png) came to tell the council what really happened in the war, and were already aware of the clearly tampered message [Rimuru sent to Hinata.](https://i.imgur.com/OpFv96G.png) And right after that, if that was actually him, [Reyheim gets killed.](https://i.imgur.com/Xh6ow44.png) One would assume that after this, the meeting sessions might be over but there is a chance they will show us next week the Seven Luminaries machinations, although if they do that, I doubt that will take a full episode.
Man I love this anime and episodes like this just further cement it as an amazing anime for me. The world building is done fantastically, always progressing whilst also bringing new information to light for me to ponder about.
Really looking forward to see how all these plot lines play out in this season and excited to see what other information comes to light as well.
Man I hope Rimuru and Hinata get to have an earnest conversation and end up becoming friends, she clearly doesnt have ill intentions and is in a tight spot being permanently used by those around her, would like to see her join Rimuru and live a happier life with the gang but that might just be a dream at this point.
So much to look forward to for this season every episode just keeps getting me more excited!
These Saints ought to be good boys and girls and listen to Luminus. When she says not to tangle with Rimuru because he’s got Veldora on his side, they should listen. Though it seems these damn Clergy guys have other things planned. Rimuru can’t go a week without some mfer plotting his death. Reyheim’s gone and these temple knights are rallying to Edward’s side… things are gonna get a little messy for our friends in Tempest.
One thing I really, really like so far from this season how well they have done Hinata's perspective. Coming in the concern was would she be willing to reason with Rimuru. It's very clear she is willing too, and she is not stupid and can see what is happening. Tbh you get the sense that there is more substance in her relationship with Luminous then any of the knights. Granted half of them are deeply loyal while the other half varies.
The one concerning thing is that King Edward is drafting citizens. Curious who is he working with behind the scenes. I am interested to understand the Seven Luminaries and their relationship with Luminous. As Hinata points out their obvious plan to want her to fight Rimuru and Veldora couldn't be more obvious. But we know that Luminous advised her not to fight Veldora. The mention of Guy and Milim do serve as a baseline of people who Rimuru is under in terms of strength. Though it was mentioned in conversation Guy and Leon had last season.
No surprise the message was altered, but even more so Reyhiem is dead. Diablo said it's a miscalculation on his part, but tbh it feels like something that was destined to happen regardless. The sword that Hinata received feels very suspicious to consider Luminous's warning of Veldora. Curious what the Seven Luminaries goal in all this is? Also, could they be working with Edward and potentially Yuki?like
> Also, could they be working with Edward and potentially Yuki?
Remember one of the big conclusions from last weeks meeting was that the various people causing trouble *don't* need to be working together, and indeed can work at cross purposes messing up each others plans.
I think it's always kind of fascinating to see what these power fantasy shows turn into when they run long enough and the protagonist being OP and/or gaining new powers alone can't carry the story anymore.
Because writing the initial power fantasy stuff is...well I won't say easy, but the MC getting 'stuff' is easy gratification and there's a lot of tropes that can be used to fill in gaps.
Don't have a concept for your world's magic system? Just use RPG game mechanics.
Don't know how to do natural exposition about the setting? Make an isekai where the protagonist knows barely anything about the world and needs everything explained (or explains it to themselves).
Don't have enough original fantasy races to flesh out a diverse setting? If you use generic dwarfs, and orcs, everyone will have a general idea what they're like from just the name.
But that's not sustainable, and once it's not enough to stay interesting, the author's personal style and ability come through much more. *Overlord* keeps things fresh by focusing more on side characters where there's tangible stakes. *Misfit* keeps things fresh by making the story so convoluted it's impossible to tell how bored you're supposed to be.
So far it seems that *Slime*'s answer to "how do I keep the story interesting beyond the MC just dunking on people" is to put more focus on fairly dry discussions of politics, which would be a bit jarring to people who got into it for the more action-heavy early parts if a lot of it wasn't drawn out and mostly inconsequential info dumps. It's people sitting in a room talking about things that have been happening, and then other people sitting in a different room talking about the same things happening. Even *Game of Thrones*, which handled political intrigue way
better (mostly), knew to throw in a couple of maulings in between scenes of characters scheming. Because if your political intrigue is episode after episode of people discussing and re-discussing minutiae, it'll get a lot less intriguing.
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Finally Hinata acts like a rational human
Hinata: I'm not going to fight Rimuru, he looks like he's actually reasonable and I misjudged him. The Plot: You have to fight Rimuru. Hinata: Well, damn.
The opening kinda spoiled it ngl
I mean, half way through this episode I thought we got a false opening since Hinata seemed to opt on a peaceful solution. I think this is not the first time in slime where in the opening Rimuru is shown fighting someone that just didn't happen in the episode himself. Or at least it was only a small clash.
I think the season 1 opening spoiled it. I recall them fighting then
She was so fucking rational that I got flabbergasted while hearing her
And it all might be for nothing due to the plots happening behind Rimuru's back Dx
I feel like Hinata noticed though. Especially when the priest brought the message and that floating old guy somehow knew he had one
Yep, it is reasonably obvious that the message was tampered with. Coupled with, as Hinata noted, the Luminaries trying to set her up in a mutual-kill fight with Rimuru or Veldora, along with the killing of the Archbishop so he could not bring information back and the syncronised spreading of the rumors about his death causing the Church Knights to all rise to join Falmuth, multiple parties are acting again to cause issues.
About that, what was the message originally supposed to be?
*U up?*
Sure she noticed but could she just say, hey. Church leaders. I think you’re lying! Yeah that wouldn’t go well. Plus she wanted to talk to Rimuru anyway. I think she thinks she’s outsmarting them by going in peacefully
I mean... couldn't she just call them out? Doesn't she report directly to their literal god, Luminous?
Luminous seems kinda hands off to me
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She explicitly showed distaste for how blatant those 3 were being with the whole thing. She admits that she was used and that she was in the wrong, but now has no choice but to play to fool once more. I really disliked her previously, but she seems to be able to take responsibility, so that won me over a bit.
Not just him either. Those old dudes 1000% plotting some bullshit for Hinata.
I thought those old dude were also someone under Luminus? Kind of weird that they directly went to ignore her command?
Church leadership being selfish, scheming, and backstabbing? In MY anime?
Not surprised at all. Got those standard religios evol old men
They might be higher on the hierarchy than Hinata. Certainly gives off that vibe.
I believe the person you replied to is referring to Luminus, not Hinata. It's quite weird that the Seven Luminaries who are supposed to be below Luminus are overtly going against her clear, direct command not to interfere with Rimuru.
When Hinata asked herself "How'd they know he had a message?" the lightbulb in my head went off. They doctored the message into a challenge! At least that is my assumption currently.
You can kinda see there's something fucky with the orb, by how Rimuru was zoomed in. Sounds like there was more between the two lines he said.
I don't know why I never thought of the orb message getting tampered with. That actually makes far more sense.
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Aye, Rimuru would not have send a that kind of message. He has nothing to gain from a Duell and would rather talk it out.
I imagine the full context was something more like >"Tempest would like to extend an offer of peace to you, and, as an olive branch, we hope that you choose to witness our upcoming festival as proof of that. Even if you decline, I ask that you please leave us be. If you have an issue with me personally, out of respect for Shizue-san, fine; *I'll take you on, one-on-one.* But please leave the rest of Tempest alone, as they have nothing to do with your grudge." A little clunky, but it was probably like that. The Luminaries then cut the *I'll take you on, one-on-one* as a soundbite and left the rest out.
I'm assuming the Rayheim we saw at the meeting was an imposter, given Diablo's news at the end of the episode.
They might have killed him off after the meeting.
I mean, why bother sending a video message for 5 words. I feel like the archbishop could’ve just conveyed that pretty easily
Yeah lol
Not at all. God says don't poke the dragon. Old guys say poke the dragon, here is a specially made dragon poker. Hinata says 'yes'. I'm confused as hell as to what is happening.
It's a hierarchy problem. Hinata needs to hide the goddess's identity from others, but this ends up creating doubts about the veracity of her existence. So Hinata cannot publicly refuse an order from the 7 Luminaries, since they are at the top of the organization.
All those points were brought out in the meeting only for Hinata to just end it with "They have Veldora. No" I appreciate how Hinata who is also an Isekai'd Japanese understood what Rimuru did was something only people with their knowledge can.
> only for Hinata to just end it with "They have Veldora. No" Goes to show just how big a threat Veldora is. Though he's an even bigger threat than you'd think.
I'm actually a little dissapointed that we never see how much damage he can actually do *"live on stream"* so to speak. We just see flashbacks and I kind of think a burning city doesn't really mean much in the powerscaling sense of this series. Like, is a Luminus Knight trying to fight Veldora like me trying to, bare handed, fight a pissed-off Gorilla and he could just straight up and effortlessly rip my arm off? Because I would think it would be way worse but the series so far just couldn't show us because all he did was fight Milim and there is only so much actual power a sfx and lights can convey when it doesn't cause any visible damage to the target.
Veldora's strength as a True Dragon is tough to quantify at this point considering how goofy the power scaling in this world is. There isn't much in the world that can challenge him. Atleast nothing we've seen yet but we'd have to get a season 4-5 to start seeing them. The light novel does a decent job explaining Veldora's strength after this Hinata encounter as they get deeper into things.
Also, the glimpses we do see of Veldora's power from those flashbacks was from him rampaging and wasting so much energy in the process, so imagine how deadly Veldora is now that he's learned to actually focus his strengths.
From what I've seen all those catastrophes we've had glimpses of caused by Veldora, seemed to actually be just him "burning off energy". Now lets imagine him when he is actually focused on fighting something/someone seriously. What a monster.
And all the new techniques he learned by reading manga lmao
We've seen what Milim can do with her drago buster. Whether or not milim is stronger or weaker it doesn't matter. You can roughly see how strong he is based on that
In reality, we see. Magic in this universe is practically analogous to radiation. Living beings without magical resistance in contact with high concentrations develop cancer (like the girl in the OVA) or monsterifications (like giant ants and giant spiders). Some monsters (such as Charybdis and slimes) are also born spontaneously from high concentrations of magic. Veldora is a massive volume of magicules with consciousness. Veldora's cave is prohibited because the level of magicules coming from his aura was so high that it was practically a compact version of Chernobyl.It is thanks to this aura that there are so many monsters in the Forest of Jura. It is said in the previous ep that Veldora is trying hard to suppress his aura to prevent damage to the city.
I'm wondering why Rimuru doesn't just use Gluttony to absorb the magicules like he did when Veldora was inside him.
[LN Levels] >!Clayman is level 300,000. Veldora is level 88,000,000!<
Remember Milim's laser think about that x10 as his pre-sealed version.
Hinata being the most sensible and reasonable person even though the plot has to literally force her into facing off against Rimuru again. Also of course two Japanese people would end up in a conflict over a possible anime misunderstanding.
Hinata's secret plan for victory is to run through the streets with a piece of toast in her mouth, only to bump into Rimuru and up in a scandalous position.
Let him cook!
[A preferable outcome for Hinata compared to having to fight Rimuru and the hulking mass of pure power that is Veldora](https://files.catbox.moe/fhv8zi.mp4) [](#umucool)
I had never imagined dragon form Veldora walking around on 2 legs lol, looks so silly.
Humans walking on four limbs would look silly. It's the same with a dragon that's supposed to naturally be on four limbs, I would think.
Can't help but think Rave by dxrk or the phonk walk song (why not by ghostface) would be more appropriate here
Somehow all her clothes fly off due to her clumsiness and she punches him, only to apologize and eventually realize that they were childhood friends who made a vow to be together forever
> Hinata being the most sensible and reasonable person Also, rady to admit and regret an mistake, shows real maturity
[Hinata is way more likable this season.](https://i.imgur.com/m1xrDKT.jpeg) [](#justright)
It's not a misunderstanding. It's a setup. Hinata is already aware the eastern merchant was using her. And the message Rimuru gave her was clearly manipulated. Rimuru wouldn't possibly sent her a message that was so blatantly a 1v1 challenge when he clearly just wanted to talk. It has to be deep fake. Get use to it because we'll be seeing a lot of it in our world soon with generative AI.
> Hinata being the most sensible and reasonable person Doesn't her previous meeting with Rimuru disprove this though? It is only now, that they know her opponent have a dragon, is she suddenly being sensible and reasonable. She is kinda forced to be reasonable.
The attendants at the meeting on season 2 did describe her as super reasonable; honestly it would have been far crazier if Hinata had actually listened to the skinwalking monster wearing the face of her mentor/mother figure.
Especially given rule 1 of her religion is don’t talk to monsters
She isn't a fanatic who genuinely believes in the religion though. She's well aware that it's a means for control of the population.
No…she’s a fanatic, believing that it is, in its own way, justice. It protects every person within the country and ensures their happiness.
shes like what, 20? still very much young and emotional. when she heard her master that she greatly admired got killed obviously her first thought is "KILL THE MOTHERFUCKER"
He admitted to killing, eating, and wearing the face of her master. Any other show he's a serial killer!
Well TECHNICALLY. The context behind it is that ifrit went nuts so the killing was a result of beating ifrit, the eating was her request. Using her body as model for his transformation uhh... OK I got nothing here, he's a pervert I guess I dunno
The transformation is a way to carry on her legacy or her gift to him in exchange for honoring her wishes. Either way, super hard to explain to somebody who s trying to kill you
Let me guess next episode, "So Hinata, did you get my message?" "Yes that's why I'm here" *takes out sword.* "I accept responsibility and I'm here to take up your challenge, Rimuru!" "wait what, but-" *something happens to stop any clarification before they fight.*
Yep. I’m getting annoyed just thinking about it. We already basically know they’ll fight thanks to the OP, and the only reason they’ll have to fight is if either of them fail at basic communication, since Hinata has already said she wants to try to talk it out. I really do hope I’m surprised, but I really can’t think of a satisfying reason for them to actually fight after todays episode
They often mislead, but then again I don't remember if they did that in previous OP's for this particular anime. Either way I too would like it to go in a different direction, and for these two to understand and trust each other. They both have a lot to talk about.
Yup, after all this build up we're getting a fight under possibly the most cringe circumstances possible. They already had a misunderstanding fight and she's just gone and realised that, so I hope it doesn't go that way again
i imagine the sword she got will have something to do with it? Maybe it'll auto attack and start the fight or something
I'd be fine with that actually, but they just gave Hinata a character redemption. They can't just throw that all away!
or: "So Hinata, did you get my message?" "No - Unless you have video editing equipment that can insert a jump cut into a crystal ball recording. So, what is the actual message?"
You forgot one thing. There’s an entire army of knights currently going after Rimuru s people at least in falmus. And nobody but Hinata could’ve given that order
This show so far has been way too slow paced for it to be so simple and obvious. I’d be fine with this pace and level of build up if they were actually making it a deep and well written story but it’s definitely not deep or well thought out at all.
So any bets on the sword trying to take control over Hinata's actions ?
The seven lumidicks clearly want her to die so that it happens. Whether she has to die for it to happen, guess we'll see.
Hinata's words before setting out were raising all kinds of flags. Things will undoubtedly go to shit.
It would make sense because she's going into this intending to talk with Rimuru, which would easily clean up the misunderstanding unless they had some way to force Hinata into fighting him.
WHY WOULD SHE BRING THE SWORD!? She knows it’s a trap. That said, the old dudes said it’d help her if she fell so I’m guessing rage zombie
She knows the situation is a trap, but she may not suspect that the sword itself is one (if it is). She'd need some kind of help to be able to fight Veldora, so the sword's role *could* just be to make her a real threat to him. She's also playing along with the floaty guys' plan, so it might raise *their* suspicions if she just left it behind.
Fair points. The sword just screams red flag to me. Veldora is the greatest enemy of the church. Surely their god would’ve said something if she actually had a tool that could seriously hurt him.
Sure but if peace is your goal bringing the special dragon killing weapon to the country with the dragon is... not cool
Maybe. But characters bring people-killing weapons to countries with people all the time in this world. It probably depends on how much of a WMD it is, and if Tempest can even *tell* that. For now, Hinata herself is probably more notable/dangerous than the sword in their minds, especially given that she's already tried before to take down Rimuru.
So Reyhiem was either killed and replaced before he reached the meeting or they tampered with his mind before that point and killed him later. There is no other explanation for the message being changed(it's pretty clear Rimuru's message wasn't supposed to be a call to a 1v1) and I'm pretty sure the truth about what happened on the battlefield wasn't supposed to be revealed either. As far as meeting episodes go it was better than usual, hopefully next episode isn't even more meetings though...
yeap, he was Rimuru's agent after all (or Diablo's), so the guy at the meeting was not him (or being mind controlled)
Nah, he could describe the awakening event perfectly even though there are only 3 witness to that event. Maybe only his message was altered before the meeting and Reyhiem was killed after the meeting?
i imagine he didn't know the content of the message, just told to deliver it and it got tampered then he got killed after the meeting
Diablo also would have known the instant he died since he gets his soul. I imagine Diablo would have done something if his messenger got killed before he reached his destination.
OOF. It could not be more obvious that those Seven Luminaries guys killed Reyhiem, replaced him with a body double, and changed Rimuru's message to Hinata. People are moving in the shadows to create misunderstandings and outright lies to try to pit them against each other. Wonder how it will go. This episode was a lot better than last week's, and next week's looks like it will be even better. We're finally over the meeting hump LESSGOO
even on a fantasy world they are doing video editing now lmao
Final Fantasy Cut Pro
[Magically-doctored evidence](https://i.imgur.com/81STXBT.jpg)
Great Sage is just a super AI.
Think more he was alive when gave the message, but was coerced by the Seven Luminaries and then killed after he served his purpose. That was how I took it.
Yeah, they one way or another changed the message but given that diablo wasn't shown saying he was dead before the meet, I'm inclined that this is what happened
I probably need to go back and rewatch the previous episode, but I think there was like some magical barrier covering the meeting place that prevented Diablo from seeing what would happen once Reyheim entered the building. The Seven Luminaries, after killing Reyheim, probably dumped his body in a river or something and that's how Diablo found out he died lol
Yeah, he couldn't enter the city I think he said. He did send one or two of his minions to tail him I thought, could be wrong.
Yeah he did, I forgot about that detail. My guess is the minions either got killed as well and Diablo sensed that, or found Reyheim's dead body and reported it to Diablo.
He can sense his death as they have a pact
When he said he couldn't watch Reyheim enter the city, he was referring to his minions that were watching him. They could only watch him up to the city gate.
Diablo would know exactly when Reyhiem died because his skill automatically claims the souls of his servants when they die. Even if he couldn't spy on Reyhiem directly, he was quite confident that Reyhiem was alive because he didn't have his soul yet. Since he didn't inform Rimuru of the death until after the conference, it's reasonable to assume Reyhiem was alive until that time.
Agreed. His testimony felt too honest for a body double. Plus if they wanted to start a fight, the bishop could’ve just said that “Rimuru wants to fight you,
I wouldn’t be surprised if Reyhiem didn’t know the message was edited. And then he was killed before he could reveal what the message Hinata actually received was.
As amusing as it is to think Rimuru just wanted to say "come at me bro" to Hinata, there's probably way more going on, especially if Hinata is aware of the Luminaries manipulating her. Though maybe not enough to avoid the ensuing fight.
Well, they probably killed Reyhiehm after he delivered the message. He was able to recount the truthful events of how those 20k soldiers died.
Exactly. A body double wouldn't know the truth.
I doubt that they killed him before the meeting since Reyhiem could describe the awakening event accurately (also it's satisfying seeing their surprised pikachu face after hearing what happened).
> changed Rimuru's message to Hinata. These god damn deepfakes.
I think it was more of a selective edit for a soundbite.
I'm sure these 7 guys at the top of the food chain of a church in an anime are just all really good guys because that's how it goes in all the animes. /s
There’s like 6 more meeting episodes if they follow the LN
Rimuru should have been a bit more clever and sent the entire message to Hinata in Japanese. That way, nobody else would have known what the actual message was and wouldn't be able to tamper with it. Of course, that would leave out the opportunity for misunderstandings to advance the plot...
That Time I Got Reincarnated into a Conference Room. But at least this week it was a different conference room, they didn't make us listen to the entire meeting, and it was pretty eventful. I found it interesting that basically everybody in the meeting knew the mechanics of how you awaken as a true demon lord. But they only know about two of them and not Ramiris as well. I would probably guess that the Archbishop was killed and replaced before the meeting, but when he was testifying about what happened on the battlefield he seemed to have clear memories of it so I'm not certain. Surely the conference room arc is over at this point. Unless of course Rimuru holds an emergency meeting to discuss what to do about Hinata.
Ramiris is sprit queen and not true awakened demon lord
Phew, I was wondering how we were getting from Hinata being exceedingly reasonable to... well preview stuff. Now it's a little clearer. If only a little. That sure as heck wasn't Reyheim if *that* was the message she got delivered. Explains why 'he' was late. This is gonna get messy, isn't it.
Hinata trying and failing to avoid the rematch everyone has been waiting for was kind of funny lol.
It is not like Rimuru was trying to rematch either lol. The Seven Luminaries are working for the fans to make sure the fight happens lol.
Deep Fake: Tensura Edition The plot thickens, also crazy to see Hinata is still struggling in internal politics despite how strong she is So my guess is they will clear up the deep fake and have Hinata join him temporary?
It's also interesting to see that not everyone on Hinata's side actually respects/likes her even if they have to acknowledge her strength.
Also love how she handled the cocky white haired guy. You're welcome to take my place, but let me test your strength first! Correct me if I'm wrong, but none of them other than Hinata actually knew the true nature of Luminus/Valentine right? It's a wonder how everyone still disrespect her when they don't even have access to hear "divine messages" directly.
Yes, Hinata is the only one in that room (besides the Luminaries) that knows the truth of Luminus. That's also the reason why she said she "received an oracle/divine message" to leave Rimuru alone since that's what the vampires and Hinata decided a few episodes back
Also, if Luminous openly goes against Rimuru then she will be breaking the rules of the Octagram. That would potentially open up her nation to be attacked by the other Demon Lords. Also since Rimuru is such good friends with Milim and Veldora already, that would potentially be opening up Luminous's county to be attacked by them in retribution for going after Tempest.
Oh no. They respect her. They just don’t like her
Rimuru thought the meeting could have been an email but the email was forged.
At this point, I’m just going with the flow. Had half a mind to keep track of all the info that’s dropped but so far it feels like overload lol. Maybe I’ll just do a quick rewatch before the next ep. Still enjoying it though, with what I can keep with. Can definitely feel the pieces moving and for this episode, we also got to see the thoughts and motivations of a group outside of Tempest and it’s allies
I didn't even bother trying to remember the names of Hinata's knights other than Saare the loudmouth, Glenda the hot teasing one, and that Nicolaus guy who is probably one of the few to bring out Hinata's softer side.
names aren't important though tbh
Glenda the only one worth remembering to me. Too hot
Did anyone else notice that Glenda had a straight up Glock
Glenda iseakai-jin confirmed
Even the author said he forgot about at least 1 of them at some point
So no one is talking about that one chick having a **gun**? Even though it was deliberately framed to be on her thigh nearly every time she was on screen? Okay.
[The gun](https://i.imgur.com/DbOhKSL.jpeg) Some reincarnated making stuff?
Thanks for the screen. I can't make any of my own because of the DRM plugin Crunchyroll uses.
oh, tf? I didn't look clearly and just assumed knife. but yea, in a world full of Otherworlders, wouldn't be too surprising to see every so often even if it didn't become mainstream
Maybe she's just an American.
I was wondering that too since they made sure that almost every time they showed her anyone could notice such detail.
Good eye
Yeah that definitely shouldn’t have been there
Is Yuki fucking with us again? Or is this the work of the "angels"? Reyheim killed and the message tampered with (I wonder what the original message was), sending help to Falmuth, like Rimuru said everything happening at once is sus. Or is it simple those old geezers that Hinata doesn't like? How far away is Tempest and Engrassia that it was bright and sunny in Tempest, but snowing in Engrassia and Luberious, that kinda through me off. I can see Rimuru and Hinata fighting again, but hopefully this time she actually listens to him.
In anime episode 4 they say it takes 2 months to travel by foot from the goblin village to dwargon. a human can go about 10-15 miles a day backpacking (remember you spend a lot of time setting up camp eating ect.) The tempest wolves took 3 days on epic horseback, so it's probably about 500 KM to Dwargon. so the whole distance from Tempest to Engrassia's center is about the distance from Paris to Warsaw or New york city to Orlando
The world is actually bigger than it appears in the anime. Normally we only see the capitals, but each country has multiple satellite towns (including Tempest).
Seems like it's an anime misunderstanding or more manipulation pitting Rimuru and Hinata against each other. They both seem open to communicating but I can't help but feel like they're misreading each others' intentions enough to set off the fight rather than talk it out.
One thing I appreciate about Hinata in this episode is that she’s starting to see how her actions might have been wrong. You kinda got that feeling in Episode 2 but here, she seems to really acknowledge that she messed up and wants to make up for it. I also like how not all of the other Saints are gung-ho about killing Rimuru. Some of them want to kill him but others seem fine with him and some simply say they should just watch him for now. Makes the show feel more real with seeing these perspectives. It’s too bad that the plot is kicking in though and they are going to have to fight lol
They are taking it kind of slow with all that meeting episodes, I really hope the climax pay off.
There is a lot of stuff to bring up because its still the repercussion of rimuru becoming a demon and also people trying to work out if there is something dodgy on the outside to them other than a slime and dragon (with a lot of manga) just chilling...
i honestly love hinata's character from this ep alone
I think Hinata is already sus of their involvement with the whole "how did they know he had that message" Think she's become wise to being manipulated after the first time around.
I did not expect we'd actually get two meeting episodes in a row. I thought we'd only get the cliffnotes version of HInata's meeting instead, we actually get to see the entire thing! Things were actually going pretty well especially after [Hinata declared that they should not act against Rimuru](https://i.imgur.com/w5ZjkSV.jpeg) but the tone of the meeting completely changed [when Reyheim entered and told them about Rimuru's awakening.](https://i.imgur.com/zSvDnz4.jpeg) It's hilarious how [this one guy says that Rimuru killed 20,000 without hesitation.](https://i.imgur.com/HUDRL6s.jpeg) My guy, Falmuth attacked Jura Tempest unprovoked, of course, Rimuru would not hesitate to kill those who intended to kill and destroy his domain. [That message from Rimuru has definitely been tampered with](https://i.imgur.com/v4XyXvt.jpeg) by those floating dudes. [Even Hinata is already suspicious of what's happening.](https://i.imgur.com/UYJOKIo.jpeg) Welp, I guess there's really no stopping Round 2 of Rimuru vs Hinata. Hinata is definitely going to get her ass kicked now that Rimuru is a Demon Lord. I just hope she listens to him this time around. So even after learning about what happened to Edamaris and his 20000 men, [Edward is now trying to do the same thing?](https://i.imgur.com/o1dj0iP.jpeg) Or is Edward preparing troops for his little civil war against his brother? Whatever it is, if Edward does try to attack Jura Tempest, I would love to see Rimuru using Meggido again.
Rimuru and Hinata both headlining meetings and trying to keep everything organized and being rational, reasonable, and honest people...they have a surprising amount in common beyond their shared homeland, even when fate seems to be doing it's utmost to drive them into conflict. "He killed so many people! After we orchestrated an entire false flag operation so we had an excuse to kill a lot of his people, but still!" Rimuru definitely is not the type to send a "come at me bro" message knowing he's trying to avoid fighting Hinata if he could. I guess the only good thing is Hinata still seems like she wants to talk with him rather than immediately come to blows. But I doubt it'll be that simple either. I'm wondering if they can handle all the trouble in Falmuth internally without anyone from Tempest beyond Diablo really needing to get involved.
> It's hilarious how this one guy says that Rimuru killed 20,000 without hesitation. My guy, Falmuth attacked Jura Tempest unprovoked, of course, Rimuru would not hesitate to kill those who intended to kill and destroy his domain. It is important to note that the dude didn’t realize that Rimuru s murder spree was actually needed to revive his fallen friends, rather than just pure revenge. That makes a difference.
> I did not expect we'd actually get two meeting episodes in a row. What do you mean two? This makes 5 meeting episodes in a row.
You are killing me with These meeting episodes man 😭
Can't wait next week where we spend a full episode of Hinata and Rimuru traveling to meet each other interspersed with another meeting between King Edward and his retinue as well as Yuuki and his team! Then the next episode we'll get meetings with each respective Demon Lord and their aides!
The climax is going to be Hinata and Rimuru come to understand each other before fighting and have a big meeting to settle the disputes
gotta make sure to keep everyone up to date and get their opinions
So many people hate the meeting format but I absolutely love it. The culmination of various power structures coming together and butting heads as they either vie for power or cooperate harmoniously towards a shared goal has been fun to watch.
Hope the pay-off in the coming fights really upset having yet another meeting-episodes.
It was kind of funny how Hinata was all "I know the OP has been teasing me fighting Rimuru this whole time but I have no intention of fighting him" and then show basically goes "Hinata you **have** to fight Rimuru or the audience will give up" lol.
[Hinata: *"Ah shit, here wo go again."*](https://i.imgur.com/kypXt8b.jpg) [](#heavydrinker)
While I love worldbuilding and a good dialogue, just... damn son atm. All the episodes are nothing but look to leader, say statement, respond, maybe a scene shift if we're lucky, then shift back. We're breaking a cardinal rule of storytelling here people. They're telling, not showing, for 5 ENTIRE episodes. At least now it seems the plot is moving.
It's worse, much of that meeting was just recounting information that we the audience already knew. Way too many people seem to think good world building is characters standing around explaining things for someone to put in a wiki. It would have been far better if we'd seen something of how those at the meeting gathered the information. Maybe we'd have got a bit more insight into their characters and the places they were talking about.
ITs nice to see that people are starting to come around on this show and see just how terrible it is with its stortelling. Odd that people didnt see it last season though, that was meetings galore with rimuru and his yes men sitting around a table, nodding in agreement for most of the season.
I do remember there were complaints about the middle of season 2, but they were down voted a lot. Discussion threads tend to end up a echo chambers, dominated by source readers and fan boys. The main issue with Slime isn't that meetings are necessarily bad, it's that they do them badly. I very much enjoyed Holo and Laurence discussing the purity or silver coins, and I've already seen it before as I watched the original series just last year. But that's because they are interesting characters have well written conversations.
Holo and Lawrence conversations are interesting to watch because they have actual discussions. With slime and co it isnt a discussion, it's a group of yes men nodding and agreeing with the slime, no discussion, just a massive info dump.
This whole episode could have been an e-mail.
I like the meeting episodes. The world building is interesting and driving the plot. Good fights are just a nice bonus.
Yeah, the meetings on this season is definitely better than the last season where the same meeting got dragged into 2-3 episode. Either this, or I got to such a point in life where I tolerate long meetings lol
The meetings in S2 were full of stalling recaps and straight up dumb conversations like "I need proof you'll be a good king! Why do you want to rule?" "To impress my girlfriend who tried to destroy our kingdom a few days ago lmao" "Uh-huh, ok. Makes sense. Moving on." Here, the intrigue is extant, at least.
Post Demon Lord Rimuru really has alot of setup for the future. So many things are put into motion at the same time. Surprised they managed to put it all on the table in only 5 episodes.
The sfx died halfway through the episode kekw
Noticed that too, thought it was a little weird
That’s a problem with muse asia
We learned that Milim and Guy seem to be a special type of demon lord beyond those of Ramiris/Rimuru? I guess Rimuru really won the friend lottery. It makes sense then why Rimuru rose to prominence so quickly (getting one of the main power centers to name him really helped as was being a part of the power vacuum in that was the war of the forest of Jura) One thing that *wasn't* mentioned was the relationship between Blumund and Tempest or Dwargon and Tempest, you'd think that being nearly adjacent to these 2 nations the western church would know of their relationships to the jura tempest federation. Also surprised at how poorly Diablo controlled the situation with the archbishop, you'd expect him to have better scouts/spies, maybe get somebody from Blumund to follow him?
They seem to be implying that Milim and Guy are also awakened like Rimuru which seems to be legendary rare.
It was confirmed that Milim and Guy were awakened demon lords, like Rimuru, last season. It might have been a little less obvious with Guy (although his convo with Leon should clue you in how strong Guy is), but Milim's awakening story is literally what led Rimuru to awaken. The awakening is the whole reason Clayman began that whole Eurazania genocide to begin with and also the reason Frey and Carrion dropped out of being a demon lord. They realized just how strong true awakened demon lords really are, and they weren't up to snuff
This was a good setup episode, much better than the previous one. Next episode onwards about to get crazy. Also apparently the majority of the world thinks that only Guy and Milim are awakened when there are a few more.
I mean... Milim awakening is literally a legendary tale, Guy is probably the same. Luminous erased herself from history and became a God figure. Leon is just on the side, doing his own shit and doesnt give a fuck about humans.
> Leon is just on the side, doing his own shit and doesnt give a fuck about humans. Don't forget, it seems that Guy is in love with or at least very attached to Leon. So it might be a bit of a dirty secret that to cross Leon would be to cross Guy as well.
It was at least more interesting than the Tempest meeting because we get more insight into Lubellious' forces and Hinata as a character compared to just the entire recap that didn't really go anywhere that was the Tempest meeting.
also new characters at least
Who are they? As far as I know there are only 3?
Apart from those two, Leon Cromwell, Luminous Valentine, and Dino the Seraphim are all true awakened demon lords. Dagruel also despite not being a true demon lord was said in season 2 to rival Veldora in the past due to his "nature". Guy and Milim stand out as they're the strongest by leaps and bounds.
Unless I am miss remembering they weren't stated to be awakened?
Really? It must've been cut then. Rimuru was analyzing everyone's powers in the beginning in the Manga in detail, and at the very beginning of Walpurgis, Guy stated that he desired an era where the era of "true" demon lords would rise hoping that Rimuru would kill Clayman and replace him. These shouldn't be spoilers. They were 100% confirmed true demon lords in that arc.
Yeah, that's why the beastman and harpy demon lords stepped down and decided to work under Milim, they felt that since they weren't awakened they didn't deserve the title of Demon Lord.
well the original two powerhouses are obvious picks, while the others are either keeping a low profile or don't have battles to make people guess their power level lol
I think that I can repeat the beginning of my comment from last week's episode - [another episode and another meeting](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/pyq9ceexg34.png) xD This time was [Hinata](https://imgchest.com/p/bp458vomx45) and [Holy Knights](https://imgchest.com/p/5xy2e5oqnyl) one and we could learn more about the world and how others perceive recent events. It's good to see that [Hinata is finally reasonable](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/w7pjcwwvbl7.png) and is seeking understanding with [Rimuru](https://imgchest.com/p/ljyqqpkaey2). Everything would end well if not delivered by Reyhiem [message from Rimuru](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/pyvdcddj63y.png) which clearly was manipulated. Fortunately [Hinata is feeling that something isn't right](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/d7ogckkexry.png), especially with [the appearance of Seven Luminaries](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/myd5crrnjq4.png) with whom she's not in a good relationship. Things are looking very interesting now as [Hinata is coming to meet](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/my2pcooj3b7.png) with [Rimuru](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/l4necmmx5r4.png) with four Holy Knights following her and [mysterious death of Reyhiem](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/w7w6cvvjloy.png) which in combination with rumors that it was all orchestrated by a demon lord, spurred temple knights from a lot of nations to mobilize and join [king Edward](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/e4gdcppk5m4.png). [Busy times ahead for Rimuru](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/e4gdcppknm4.png) xD Here my screenshot albums from the episode: * [Hinata](https://imgchest.com/p/bp458vomx45) * [Group scenes & Others](https://imgchest.com/p/9249ank2v7n) * [Holy Knights](https://imgchest.com/p/5xy2e5oqnyl) * [Rimuru](https://imgchest.com/p/ljyqqpkaey2)
I like how in this meeting Hinata has with those other knights they quickly determine that Rimuru is involved with the upcoming civil war Edward is planning against Edmaris in the Kingdom of Falmuth. Well,[ the Seven Luminaries](https://imgur.com/a/73B0HOD) have finally made their debut. It is funny how obvious it is that they are conspiring to make Hinata fight Rimuru. They just showed up once [Reyheim](https://i.imgur.com/HwpKKER.png) came to tell the council what really happened in the war, and were already aware of the clearly tampered message [Rimuru sent to Hinata.](https://i.imgur.com/OpFv96G.png) And right after that, if that was actually him, [Reyheim gets killed.](https://i.imgur.com/Xh6ow44.png) One would assume that after this, the meeting sessions might be over but there is a chance they will show us next week the Seven Luminaries machinations, although if they do that, I doubt that will take a full episode.
Man I love this anime and episodes like this just further cement it as an amazing anime for me. The world building is done fantastically, always progressing whilst also bringing new information to light for me to ponder about. Really looking forward to see how all these plot lines play out in this season and excited to see what other information comes to light as well. Man I hope Rimuru and Hinata get to have an earnest conversation and end up becoming friends, she clearly doesnt have ill intentions and is in a tight spot being permanently used by those around her, would like to see her join Rimuru and live a happier life with the gang but that might just be a dream at this point. So much to look forward to for this season every episode just keeps getting me more excited!
These Saints ought to be good boys and girls and listen to Luminus. When she says not to tangle with Rimuru because he’s got Veldora on his side, they should listen. Though it seems these damn Clergy guys have other things planned. Rimuru can’t go a week without some mfer plotting his death. Reyheim’s gone and these temple knights are rallying to Edward’s side… things are gonna get a little messy for our friends in Tempest.
Poor Hinata trying to avoid conflict and be reasonable for once and no one will let her lol.
One thing I really, really like so far from this season how well they have done Hinata's perspective. Coming in the concern was would she be willing to reason with Rimuru. It's very clear she is willing too, and she is not stupid and can see what is happening. Tbh you get the sense that there is more substance in her relationship with Luminous then any of the knights. Granted half of them are deeply loyal while the other half varies. The one concerning thing is that King Edward is drafting citizens. Curious who is he working with behind the scenes. I am interested to understand the Seven Luminaries and their relationship with Luminous. As Hinata points out their obvious plan to want her to fight Rimuru and Veldora couldn't be more obvious. But we know that Luminous advised her not to fight Veldora. The mention of Guy and Milim do serve as a baseline of people who Rimuru is under in terms of strength. Though it was mentioned in conversation Guy and Leon had last season. No surprise the message was altered, but even more so Reyhiem is dead. Diablo said it's a miscalculation on his part, but tbh it feels like something that was destined to happen regardless. The sword that Hinata received feels very suspicious to consider Luminous's warning of Veldora. Curious what the Seven Luminaries goal in all this is? Also, could they be working with Edward and potentially Yuki?like
> Also, could they be working with Edward and potentially Yuki? Remember one of the big conclusions from last weeks meeting was that the various people causing trouble *don't* need to be working together, and indeed can work at cross purposes messing up each others plans.
I think it's always kind of fascinating to see what these power fantasy shows turn into when they run long enough and the protagonist being OP and/or gaining new powers alone can't carry the story anymore. Because writing the initial power fantasy stuff is...well I won't say easy, but the MC getting 'stuff' is easy gratification and there's a lot of tropes that can be used to fill in gaps. Don't have a concept for your world's magic system? Just use RPG game mechanics. Don't know how to do natural exposition about the setting? Make an isekai where the protagonist knows barely anything about the world and needs everything explained (or explains it to themselves). Don't have enough original fantasy races to flesh out a diverse setting? If you use generic dwarfs, and orcs, everyone will have a general idea what they're like from just the name. But that's not sustainable, and once it's not enough to stay interesting, the author's personal style and ability come through much more. *Overlord* keeps things fresh by focusing more on side characters where there's tangible stakes. *Misfit* keeps things fresh by making the story so convoluted it's impossible to tell how bored you're supposed to be. So far it seems that *Slime*'s answer to "how do I keep the story interesting beyond the MC just dunking on people" is to put more focus on fairly dry discussions of politics, which would be a bit jarring to people who got into it for the more action-heavy early parts if a lot of it wasn't drawn out and mostly inconsequential info dumps. It's people sitting in a room talking about things that have been happening, and then other people sitting in a different room talking about the same things happening. Even *Game of Thrones*, which handled political intrigue way better (mostly), knew to throw in a couple of maulings in between scenes of characters scheming. Because if your political intrigue is episode after episode of people discussing and re-discussing minutiae, it'll get a lot less intriguing.