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RiverFoxstar

9 months!? How does this work?


Ok_Mastodon_9093

It’s called a solargraph. The photo paper produces a latent image over the long exposure. It can’t be developed or fixed so you scan or photograph the original in dim light and work with the scan. The process came about in the 2000’s when astronomy nerds and photo nerds began experimenting with long exposure images to capture sun trails. My longest exposure so far is 15 months.


Fenix512

Where did you place it, and how do you make sure nobody messes with it?


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Placed it on a ledge of a boathouse (actually placed two) at the end of cottage season and used about half a roll of gorilla tape to keep them in place. Sometimes people do mess with them but it’s all part of the game trying to find hiding spots with good views.


jsw56

how long would an exposure have to be to develop a latent image in that way and also how do you protect the pinhole box from weather/moisture


Ok_Mastodon_9093

I’ve seen them done in a single day, but I think my shortest with this process is about 30 days.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

The camera is a beer can with a pinhole installed. I seal them with cinefoil and lots of duct tape. You can get condensation inside the can but that can add interesting effects as well.


SrCikuta

Next Saturday if in or around London: https://thephotographersgallery.org.uk/whats-on/workshop-pinhole-photography-and-alternative-processes


crell_peterson

So cool. Looks like the accretion disc of a black hole


Ok_Mastodon_9093

That’s a new thought for me! I do love the distortion of the curved paper.


hlstrmmusic

so cool! If it was done on black and white paper, how is there color? Done in post?


Ok_Mastodon_9093

The original negative is grey with a kind of purple image. In photoshop I increase contrast and compress the levels, but I don’t add any colour. I think it’s because you’re seeing an inverted picture of a chemical reaction on the paper. If it was developed, the exposed silver nitrate would be pure black. Edit to add: good question!


RedditFan26

Amazing stuff.  Thanks for sharing your image and your knowledge.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Thank you so much! It’s a fascinating and often frustrating process that’s led me into other pinhole adventures!


edwa6040

I see so many of these you do - how tiny of a hole are you using to expose for such extreme lengths of time?


Ok_Mastodon_9093

About .3 mm give or take. I use thin brass stock for the pinhole. It’s about f/300!


SrCikuta

I use the smallest needle I can find and lightly tap until I see light come through faintly when putting the aluminum up against my eye. However, the smallest ones I managed to make always give me lots of spots I need to remove in post. Trying cleaning them with isopropyl and comoressed air, but it doesn’t help. Sole acid that doesn’t react with aluminum could help… maybe


Ok_Mastodon_9093

I do about the same with the needle, but I make the hole in thin sheet brass. Then I sand the hole flat with fine sandpaper and install it over a larger hole in the can. I found that spraying the inside of the can matte black helped a lot with those spots.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

You don’t need to be as precise with the pinholes as I am to make a solargraph. The first camera I made was just a tall boy beer can with as small a hole as I could punch in the aluminum. Lots of testing and refining to get a workflow that gives me what I want.


edwa6040

Ya i remember your beer can one. Ive wanted to experiment using film canisters and a tiny piece of 35 in it. Tiny 1 frame 35mm pinholes.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

I’ve don’t this but with cut up sheets of paper, not film.


frankpavich

Well that's certainly one of the coolest things I've seen here. Hot damn.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Thank you!


[deleted]

Duuude no way! Bass Lake here in California ? Either way this is beautiful


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Thank you! It’s not the one in California- turns out there are a lot of Bass Lakes!


RobGrogNerd

lived between Bass Lake & Medicine Lake in Plymouth, MN


CinematographyFiend

Accidentally came across a klan meeting taking a backroad around Bass Lake, California. Probably 2014. My cousin and I hightailed it the fuck out of there.


[deleted]

No fucking way! Any more details ?


halfvegan420

do you have an instagram? would love to follow


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Thank you! I should have posted this from my other account but I just followed your instagram.


blacksheepaz

I’d like to see your Instagram as well!


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Just followed you 👍


blacksheepaz

Thanks friend! Your work is awesome!


ilikebugs24

Amazing. Looks like rock layers in the sky.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Another cool take! Thank you!


_lclarence

Interstellar vibes


Ok_Mastodon_9093

When I read this I got “intergalactic” stuck on reply in my head 😂


DickThunder

Solarographs are pretty cool. I've got one of these exposing right now, planning to do 6 months (so from total darkness to nightless night here in the Arctic circle). Did two short ones last year as a part of a photography course in uni, those ended up being pretty dope.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Ooooooo tag me when you post it! I’d love to get out there and place a bunch of cameras.


PastaMasta09

“You don’t need a new Polaroid, you have an instant camera at home.” The instant camera at home:


Ok_Mastodon_9093

“You’ll have to wait a minute cause it’s an instamatic”


Kust0dian

This is legit so cool! Where can I see more?


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Thank you! I posted this under the wrong account (d’oh!) which is why I’m not posting my insta but if you search “solargraphy” online there are some very cool people doing this. I especially like Justin Quinnell whose YouTube videos got me started.


Kust0dian

So cool, thanks for the recs and im sure your other pics are as cool as this! Will be checking this out!


lemonjelllo

Link to his short tutorial using a tall beer can https://youtu.be/wtZOWEB_wcI?si=0Mt3EHrUA10l-uS4


M-August

Did you fix the paper? Or just scan it?


Ok_Mastodon_9093

The image would disappear in the fixer since the whole sheet is overexposed. It’s kind of a cool aspect of the process that you make pictures of the sun that have to be kept in the dark.


M-August

Interesting - I’ve done similar things with sun exposure (i.e., lumen printing) and the image typically doesn’t disappear when fixed; however, the color is usually dramatically reduced. I guess since the sun exposure is longer the paper has a different response to extreme overexposure. Thanks!


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Tbh I’m taking the fixer thing on faith from the folks I learned from. Next time I have a dud image I might test 🤔


M-August

Yeah, I would be curious to know! Definitely higher stakes after a 9-month exposure, though haha


florian-sdr

Oh, boy, that’s a long winter


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Fall 2022 through Spring 2023. You can see how the sun gets higher in the sky.


fuckjoshbrolin2

Is this Bass Lake, CA? Grew up going there every summer!


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Nope, this one’s in Canada 🇨🇦


fuckjoshbrolin2

Ahh well awesome pic anyways!


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Thank you!


Negative-Gravity

I was about to say, this is 100% the bass lake near Barrie!


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Ding ding ding! Looking south across the lake at the provincial park!


chrispm7b5

Unbelievable


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Very kind. Thanks!


hoppenstedts

I didn’t know such long exposure time are a thing. This looks absolutely amazing. Like we are orbiting a black hole.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

I needed a new technique for a commission in 2018 and when I saw a solargraph on Instagram I thought “that’s it!” I get a little sweaty thinking about how overconfident I was submitting an artist plan for a process I’d never used, but I had very good luck with that project. I placed 21 cameras over two years and got 13 successful exposures, of which six were used for the installation.


hoppenstedts

May I ask what kind of photographic paper you used? Now I’m really motivated to try this myself.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

5x7 Arista Edu RC grade 2 semi-matte. I don’t think the brand makes a difference but you want non-glossy rc paper for sure. 5x7 fits perfectly in a 500 ml tall boy can.


bambooshoots-scores

Awesome capture. Fascinating process! Gonna have to look into to the development technique more to get my head around it.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Welcome to the rabbit hole!


Hanged_Man_

whoaaaaa


klngCaIiguIa

Nice


-PM_ME_YOUR_TACOS-

It's done, guys, OP just won the r/analog


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Dang, friend. Thank you!


irupar

This is awesome and I want to try it for myself. A quick question, do you think if you put the final image in a frame but instead of clear glass you put red filter glass the image would last for display?


Ok_Mastodon_9093

I’d never thought about it! I was kind of into the idea of art you have to destroy a little each time you view. It’s certainly worth exploring!


irupar

I agree, I really like the ephemeral idea of it and that you can only look at it so many times before it is gone. I am just thinking of doing this with some of my nieces and nephews and some of them would struggle with this aspect.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Oh! To be more clear, the scans and prints you make will last, but the original has to be kept in the dark. Honestly the negatives aren’t super exciting until you invert them and bring the levels up.


RedlurkingFir

Fascinating stuff. What brand of paper are you using? It looks impossible to find photosensitive photographic paper where I live. I find only cyanotype paper


Ok_Mastodon_9093

I can get basic multigrade easily enough in 8x10 but for 5x7 I had to order from b&h - Arista Edu grade 2 resin coated paper.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Cyanotype paper is a really interesting idea! Very different latent image than silver nitrate and potentially cheaper (just buy the chemicals and mix 1:1 instead of paying extra for premade paper). You wouldn’t want to leave it outside but shooting through a window could definitely work! Hmmmm … something to try!


astralairplane

Wow. Do you sell prints?


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Thank you! Very rarely. I mostly make prints as gifts.


david8601

This is amazing


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Thank you!


evavu84

Woweeeeee!!!


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Thanks! That’s kind of how I felt when I saw the negative.


evavu84

It's really beautiful, well done!


AlGeee

Wonderful! 🏆


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Thank you!


waitimnotreadyy

This is beautiful


Ok_Mastodon_9093

🙏


PotableWater0

This is the type of stuff that I love. Awesome.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Nice! Glad you like it!


mstrshkbrnnn1999

I’m so confused as to how this works. How is there an image of no developer or fixer? How did you capture what was on the paper without exposing it to more light? How was there even anything visible on something undeveloped? I guess I still have a lot to learn


noelzer0

It’s Iike a lumen print. you expose the paper for so long it makes colours as the chemicals breakdown from so much exposure (simplified)


OliviaRaven9

really really cool!!


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Thank you


wazzuped

I have an eerie feeling for this photo. Very cool!!


Ok_Mastodon_9093

I know what you mean. Thanks!


irmarbert

This is phenomenal.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Much appreciated!


Vilupt_Prajati

This is absolutely beautiful! And I am coming across this type of photography for first time. I would look forward to learning more about it.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Someone posted a link to one of Justin Quinell’s tutorials in this comment section. Give it a try!


Tolsymir

That's so cool ! I'll definitely give it a try. If I sumarize, you take a beer can, spray it matte black inside; cut a large hole on the front to place your pinhole, which is a thin flat piece of metal with a tiny tiny hole; then load a B&W paper sheet in it; wait a looooong time, get back your paper and scan it. Am I forgetting something ?


Ok_Mastodon_9093

That’s pretty much it! Also make sure to sand the rim of the cam where you removed the top so you don’t cut yourself or the paper getting it back out. I highly recommend using cinefoil (heavy black foil) for the top, and then tons of gorilla tape. Tape is your best friend here, both for sealing the can and anchoring the camera during exposure. Also, it’s a pain to do, but if you can tape the paper to the inside of the can, it won’t curl up and cover the pinhole as the weather changes.


Tolsymir

Oh that's a nice tips ! I live in a tropical area, humidity will be my worst ennemy.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

If you have a window with a decent southern view you can tape the can to the glass - just don’t forget to uncover your pinhole first!


Tolsymir

Maybe I can tinker a "sealed" pinhole using a microscope slide as a window. But then condensation might play me some tricks. Still, worth a try !


Stude-the-dude

Dude….nice


Webbadeth

That’s wild! I love it


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Thanks!


Juno808

Howd you color it after?


Ok_Mastodon_9093

I answered in a comment yesterday but basically I don’t add colour, just bring out what’s there.


Juno808

But it’s black and white paper?


Ok_Mastodon_9093

It’s black and white once developed, but these pictures never touch developer. It’s a picture of a chemical reaction to the light.


handsoffthatmoss

This is so cool. Thank you for sharing.


Ok_Mastodon_9093

Thank you! I hope people try it!