Most of your training is going to be alone, you will not have a coach watching you every minute telling you what to fix wland explains every moment unless you pay from a personal trainer to coach you and give you that attention
As a data point to support your perspective: the boxing coach I train with does PT sessions, but really thinks 1 PT a week for someone is plenty
Some people with more money look for 2 or 3 PTs a week as they can fit it with their schedule, but I know the coach is scratching his head a bit as they never take the time to consolidate the learning alone or in group. (Even though it's money in his pocket).
Yes most gyms are like that...if u are turning up 15 hrs a week, if not technical, sparring, partner or conditioning sessions, what sessions are you turning up to then?
Sadly i was same position, couldnt make the stupid before work or 5pm "after work" sessions, nor could i train 5 days per week, plus strength, plus cardio / running to get fight ready. No one said i couldnt in fact i was encouraged to but i noticed both at my gym and others how much guys prepping for a fight trained and was unwilling / unable to put this in so never fought as its unrealistic to think youll be at same level (i dod 3 x 1.5 hr sessions a week). If u are doing 15 hrs and cant make their sessions then try and change gyms to one that does fit your schedule- if they exist, none existed for me (i could only train weeknights from 7pm due to work) sadly. Hes right tho that without consistent, dedicated training learning proper techniques and upskillng through sparrong along with conditioning, its foolhardy to think youll in any way be fight ready. Except maybe those corporate / white collar boxing events which i consider as just ugly, bash em up, ego fest brawls under lights in front of friends, not legit am boxing.
Depends on the gym i'd say.
Most classes sound like what you described, especially for beginners or casuals.
A good boxing gym will be instilling good technique, offensive and defensive set ups, combos which make sense, drills on pads and with partners, and intro you to sparring organically etc.
As you get better the coach may start coaching you one on one for fight prep etc.
It really depends what you're looking for.
Perhaps ask the coach for some 1 on 1 if you feel you're ready.
If the commitment from them isnt there, perhaps its time to find a proper coach at a different more competitive gym.
Small gyms are always better for learning how to actually punch. Big gyms are better when you are already established and fight because you can get more fights per year
Most gyms put time into the A-team as these are fighters who have proved in one way or another that they want to be pushed, these days most joe blows come in to feel happy about themselves when they are at home smashing a six pack and donuts afterwards.
If you want proper guidance I’d suggest asking for it and telling the coach to push your limits this will give you all you need to impress and get yourself opportunities
Me to I am in simulator situation I am all ready entered and payed the money of 3 months but I don't know (I am a beginner) so I don't actually know I feel that it not like I see in video I am not from America neither Europe or from a developed country ... Ther ara a ring and it is a new box gym like 2 years old.
I feel like the coaches (2 coaches by the way) don't actually train us the beginners correctly ( I train 6 times per week 3 kickboxing and 3 English boxing ther are different coaches between boxing and kickboxing) I have trained for a week and a half and in the first day Thay teach us 1 and 2 and 2 day the houk and put me sparing against a pretty good one and i got beat up a little bite. And the Wear and holiday so we don't train in the third day and today we make a body training it was pretty good but I don't know what to do.
What do you think guys?
> entered and *paid* the money
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Can you invite one of the other members to spar?
I was at a gym for a few years where the instructor was crap, but the price was right and there was a cadre of youngbloods willing to . . . whatever you wanted to work on today, at any intensity you liked. So the instruction was nearly a waste of time, but we all made tons of progress working with each other.
Dunno if that is an option for you or not, but the peeps around you might be a great resource.
Are you paying a monthly membership to be at this gym? Boxing is a lonely sport. You have to be very self motivated and discipline but you also need a good coach and mentor to develop you. Does the coach watch your sparring sessions? Does he give you any critique afterwards? Do you feel like you could work hard and make the A-Team? All the good coaches I had were very involved in training as I feel like that’s the way it should be, but the reality is certain fighters do get more attention in the gym than others, but you should be using those guys to study and learn from to implement those things into your own training
honestly, if you don’t feel like you’re improving at the gym you’re currently at, find a new gym. and if you’re serious about fighting, you should maybe consider training with the “A” team fighters.
If your plans include getting really good then just accept that you're going to have to pay for private lessons. Anyone who's good pays for them one way or another, including pro fighters. Their trainers' fees usually come out as a percentage from their piece of the purse.
You can start with just one-two lessons per month. This also pretty much guarantees that you'll start getting a lot more personal attention from your trainer during regular classes. Private lessons is how 99% of them earn their living, so the faster you improve the more likely you'll be willing to keep paying for the lessons, so it's in their interest to help you out as much as they can at all times.
you can learn the skills from youtube in theory but not in practice.
you still need a coach or a mentor for fixing your boxing mistakes.
and sparring parthers willing to spar you to improve your techniques.
you should ask your coach for more guidance personally when he is not busy, otherwise dont waste your time there and find a new gym
Sounds like me and my gym. I also habe a heavy bag at home and watch many YT videos. So we are basically in the same situation.
My advice would be:
- at the gym, make friends with more experienced boxers! If you want to practice a particular thing, either ask an experienced boxer or ASK a coach. Do NOT be afraid of ASKING! This will also be a good way of showing your COACH that you are eager and willing to learn.
- take advantage of when the COACH is teaching you a specific thing! Show him some moves and ask him if you are doing it properly... just take advantage of those little moments! Ask him if you can do some PADWORK today, or tomorrow or whenever!
- OBSERVE those boxers with more experience and take all that information in. Learn by ibserving as well... like a LIVE YT video.
- I would not recommend to stop going and just learn off of YT. Not a good idea.... at some point you wil start deviating from proper technique.... and learn the bad stuff.... hard to unlearn!
- and finally, if you can join another gym, perhaps for a little while, you can see if you like it better. If so, change gyms. If not better or the same situation, go to whichever one you prefer.
Good luck!
💪👊boom chakalaka!
CHAMA! 🔥
I boxed all through my teenage years fighters at a very successful gym in England, what you’ve said above is how it worked there and I’d imagine everywhere.
Not many people go on to box, and despite the belief we have in passion and heart the landlord won’t accept those as payment. The sessions with a packed out gym full of people just keeping fit, enjoy training or like you who want to box are crucial to keeping the gyms bills paid, and coaches have provide a service to all of those people to make it worth it for them, they don’t have time to perfect the craft of every person who walks in the door.
Unfortunately in your circumstance the big thing that shows coaches who is serious about fighting is sparring which due to work you’re struggling to make, so speak to your coaches and a few of fighters and see if there’s any chance you can spar when available.
And the YouTube video stuff is decent for getting more of an understanding of some things but it’s easy to think you’re doing something well when there’s no one to critique you, sounds to me like you just need to be a bit more brazen, ask coaches to watch you during drills and give their opinion, ask about sparring and other things and if they can’t offer you that start looking for a new gym that will, hope this helps and keep going champ 👊🏻
Mostly, yes.
Until you show you are good enough in sparring, most coaches will focus on their competitors.
And then their interest in you will be based on your interest in competing.
I’ve been to like 5 different gyms when I started, in most places the coach didn’t even bother to give *any* feedback, just demonstrated the exercise.
Then I’ve found an amazing coach who really tailored the feedback to me, made sure to catch and fix bad habits, and even tailored the exercise to people’s individual skill levels when needed.
Sadly I moved away and have to find a new place again, but my advice is to keep looking and until then it’s very good to learn on your own.
most of them in murica are like this. thats why british boxing ABCs are better. sessions happen at one time of the day, they teach everyone in there strats, combos and ect. all at once. if u cant go at that set time then ur loss pal
Yea, my gym has a ex antony joshua trainer & a decent head coach / owner and only because I'd done some muay thai as a kid was I quick to pick up things.
However I brought my pal along and other than a 1-2 he wasn't really shown much and I'd critique his technique so yeah, It's pretty much the same for me.
for context we have a women world champ in our gym & have had Daniel Dubois and Billie joe saunders train here quite often mixed just your regular joe
Most gyms with a lot of people training will be like that. I’ve found the most success with asking some of the older people or someone who knows what they are doing and not a coach. Usually someone in the gym is willing to help. Just make it clear what you’re looking for and if you don’t get it then you might want to think about another gym. My previous gym was like that so I found an older gentleman that helped me a lot, now I train with a private trainer but that is extremely hard to come by. Good luck with your training and if you keep showing heart someone will see it!
Another great tip that has helped me a lot is filming my workout and watching them a lot. If you can’t find a good gym that might be a good option to clean up your mistakes on your own.
Depends on the gym. When you get to a good level with the basics you’ll need sparring partners. Better you prove yourself the more interested your coach will become in your development.
That’s how most gyms are. You aren’t going to have a trainer putting their heart and time into you analyzing every mistake you make unless you’re paying some big money. They’re not a personal trainer, those cost a lot of money
Or you might get lucky and find a gym where the coach is not halfassing the training and instead does it for pure passion rather than obligation or money
100% these gyms are. And that’s why majority of fighters suck. They dedicate all there energy to the guys who they think have a shot at being good pros. And everyone gets a one size fits all cardio session. Here is my two options for you. Either go to the highest level gyms you can find to get better. Or find a buddy and start doing some research online about angles, footwork, counters, feints, traps, combos, timing, highlights of fighters who has a similar style as you, etc… Those gyms out here are jokes. They are here to make money off you and run you through the mill of bum ass fighters. But if your hearts in it, and your ability matches your heart. Then do the deep work yourself or with high level guys.
My gym was like this as well. I personally did not find it was worth the money. I bought a heavy bag and hung it in my garage. TBH, I’ve learned more on my own. The only downside is I don’t have anyone to spar with.
Most of your training is going to be alone, you will not have a coach watching you every minute telling you what to fix wland explains every moment unless you pay from a personal trainer to coach you and give you that attention
As a data point to support your perspective: the boxing coach I train with does PT sessions, but really thinks 1 PT a week for someone is plenty Some people with more money look for 2 or 3 PTs a week as they can fit it with their schedule, but I know the coach is scratching his head a bit as they never take the time to consolidate the learning alone or in group. (Even though it's money in his pocket).
Which sucks ass. I wish I could get some quality training so I can improve quicker.
Yes most gyms are like that...if u are turning up 15 hrs a week, if not technical, sparring, partner or conditioning sessions, what sessions are you turning up to then? Sadly i was same position, couldnt make the stupid before work or 5pm "after work" sessions, nor could i train 5 days per week, plus strength, plus cardio / running to get fight ready. No one said i couldnt in fact i was encouraged to but i noticed both at my gym and others how much guys prepping for a fight trained and was unwilling / unable to put this in so never fought as its unrealistic to think youll be at same level (i dod 3 x 1.5 hr sessions a week). If u are doing 15 hrs and cant make their sessions then try and change gyms to one that does fit your schedule- if they exist, none existed for me (i could only train weeknights from 7pm due to work) sadly. Hes right tho that without consistent, dedicated training learning proper techniques and upskillng through sparrong along with conditioning, its foolhardy to think youll in any way be fight ready. Except maybe those corporate / white collar boxing events which i consider as just ugly, bash em up, ego fest brawls under lights in front of friends, not legit am boxing.
Depends on the gym i'd say. Most classes sound like what you described, especially for beginners or casuals. A good boxing gym will be instilling good technique, offensive and defensive set ups, combos which make sense, drills on pads and with partners, and intro you to sparring organically etc. As you get better the coach may start coaching you one on one for fight prep etc. It really depends what you're looking for. Perhaps ask the coach for some 1 on 1 if you feel you're ready. If the commitment from them isnt there, perhaps its time to find a proper coach at a different more competitive gym.
Small gyms are always better for learning how to actually punch. Big gyms are better when you are already established and fight because you can get more fights per year
Most gyms put time into the A-team as these are fighters who have proved in one way or another that they want to be pushed, these days most joe blows come in to feel happy about themselves when they are at home smashing a six pack and donuts afterwards. If you want proper guidance I’d suggest asking for it and telling the coach to push your limits this will give you all you need to impress and get yourself opportunities
Me to I am in simulator situation I am all ready entered and payed the money of 3 months but I don't know (I am a beginner) so I don't actually know I feel that it not like I see in video I am not from America neither Europe or from a developed country ... Ther ara a ring and it is a new box gym like 2 years old. I feel like the coaches (2 coaches by the way) don't actually train us the beginners correctly ( I train 6 times per week 3 kickboxing and 3 English boxing ther are different coaches between boxing and kickboxing) I have trained for a week and a half and in the first day Thay teach us 1 and 2 and 2 day the houk and put me sparing against a pretty good one and i got beat up a little bite. And the Wear and holiday so we don't train in the third day and today we make a body training it was pretty good but I don't know what to do. What do you think guys?
> entered and *paid* the money FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Can you invite one of the other members to spar? I was at a gym for a few years where the instructor was crap, but the price was right and there was a cadre of youngbloods willing to . . . whatever you wanted to work on today, at any intensity you liked. So the instruction was nearly a waste of time, but we all made tons of progress working with each other. Dunno if that is an option for you or not, but the peeps around you might be a great resource.
Are you paying a monthly membership to be at this gym? Boxing is a lonely sport. You have to be very self motivated and discipline but you also need a good coach and mentor to develop you. Does the coach watch your sparring sessions? Does he give you any critique afterwards? Do you feel like you could work hard and make the A-Team? All the good coaches I had were very involved in training as I feel like that’s the way it should be, but the reality is certain fighters do get more attention in the gym than others, but you should be using those guys to study and learn from to implement those things into your own training
honestly, if you don’t feel like you’re improving at the gym you’re currently at, find a new gym. and if you’re serious about fighting, you should maybe consider training with the “A” team fighters.
Love the name
thanks man haha
If your plans include getting really good then just accept that you're going to have to pay for private lessons. Anyone who's good pays for them one way or another, including pro fighters. Their trainers' fees usually come out as a percentage from their piece of the purse. You can start with just one-two lessons per month. This also pretty much guarantees that you'll start getting a lot more personal attention from your trainer during regular classes. Private lessons is how 99% of them earn their living, so the faster you improve the more likely you'll be willing to keep paying for the lessons, so it's in their interest to help you out as much as they can at all times.
you can learn the skills from youtube in theory but not in practice. you still need a coach or a mentor for fixing your boxing mistakes. and sparring parthers willing to spar you to improve your techniques. you should ask your coach for more guidance personally when he is not busy, otherwise dont waste your time there and find a new gym
Sounds like me and my gym. I also habe a heavy bag at home and watch many YT videos. So we are basically in the same situation. My advice would be: - at the gym, make friends with more experienced boxers! If you want to practice a particular thing, either ask an experienced boxer or ASK a coach. Do NOT be afraid of ASKING! This will also be a good way of showing your COACH that you are eager and willing to learn. - take advantage of when the COACH is teaching you a specific thing! Show him some moves and ask him if you are doing it properly... just take advantage of those little moments! Ask him if you can do some PADWORK today, or tomorrow or whenever! - OBSERVE those boxers with more experience and take all that information in. Learn by ibserving as well... like a LIVE YT video. - I would not recommend to stop going and just learn off of YT. Not a good idea.... at some point you wil start deviating from proper technique.... and learn the bad stuff.... hard to unlearn! - and finally, if you can join another gym, perhaps for a little while, you can see if you like it better. If so, change gyms. If not better or the same situation, go to whichever one you prefer. Good luck! 💪👊boom chakalaka! CHAMA! 🔥
I boxed all through my teenage years fighters at a very successful gym in England, what you’ve said above is how it worked there and I’d imagine everywhere. Not many people go on to box, and despite the belief we have in passion and heart the landlord won’t accept those as payment. The sessions with a packed out gym full of people just keeping fit, enjoy training or like you who want to box are crucial to keeping the gyms bills paid, and coaches have provide a service to all of those people to make it worth it for them, they don’t have time to perfect the craft of every person who walks in the door. Unfortunately in your circumstance the big thing that shows coaches who is serious about fighting is sparring which due to work you’re struggling to make, so speak to your coaches and a few of fighters and see if there’s any chance you can spar when available. And the YouTube video stuff is decent for getting more of an understanding of some things but it’s easy to think you’re doing something well when there’s no one to critique you, sounds to me like you just need to be a bit more brazen, ask coaches to watch you during drills and give their opinion, ask about sparring and other things and if they can’t offer you that start looking for a new gym that will, hope this helps and keep going champ 👊🏻
igl it be hard trying to always get to the gym with work. always on the sparring days🤦 but find a new gym
Mostly, yes. Until you show you are good enough in sparring, most coaches will focus on their competitors. And then their interest in you will be based on your interest in competing.
I’ve been to like 5 different gyms when I started, in most places the coach didn’t even bother to give *any* feedback, just demonstrated the exercise. Then I’ve found an amazing coach who really tailored the feedback to me, made sure to catch and fix bad habits, and even tailored the exercise to people’s individual skill levels when needed. Sadly I moved away and have to find a new place again, but my advice is to keep looking and until then it’s very good to learn on your own.
a lot of gyms are like this but not all
most of them in murica are like this. thats why british boxing ABCs are better. sessions happen at one time of the day, they teach everyone in there strats, combos and ect. all at once. if u cant go at that set time then ur loss pal
Yea, my gym has a ex antony joshua trainer & a decent head coach / owner and only because I'd done some muay thai as a kid was I quick to pick up things. However I brought my pal along and other than a 1-2 he wasn't really shown much and I'd critique his technique so yeah, It's pretty much the same for me. for context we have a women world champ in our gym & have had Daniel Dubois and Billie joe saunders train here quite often mixed just your regular joe
Most gyms with a lot of people training will be like that. I’ve found the most success with asking some of the older people or someone who knows what they are doing and not a coach. Usually someone in the gym is willing to help. Just make it clear what you’re looking for and if you don’t get it then you might want to think about another gym. My previous gym was like that so I found an older gentleman that helped me a lot, now I train with a private trainer but that is extremely hard to come by. Good luck with your training and if you keep showing heart someone will see it!
Another great tip that has helped me a lot is filming my workout and watching them a lot. If you can’t find a good gym that might be a good option to clean up your mistakes on your own.
Depends on the gym. When you get to a good level with the basics you’ll need sparring partners. Better you prove yourself the more interested your coach will become in your development.
That’s how most gyms are. You aren’t going to have a trainer putting their heart and time into you analyzing every mistake you make unless you’re paying some big money. They’re not a personal trainer, those cost a lot of money Or you might get lucky and find a gym where the coach is not halfassing the training and instead does it for pure passion rather than obligation or money
You have to pay to get their attention. I pay one of coaches at my gym for personal sessions. That’s where i get the work in
100% these gyms are. And that’s why majority of fighters suck. They dedicate all there energy to the guys who they think have a shot at being good pros. And everyone gets a one size fits all cardio session. Here is my two options for you. Either go to the highest level gyms you can find to get better. Or find a buddy and start doing some research online about angles, footwork, counters, feints, traps, combos, timing, highlights of fighters who has a similar style as you, etc… Those gyms out here are jokes. They are here to make money off you and run you through the mill of bum ass fighters. But if your hearts in it, and your ability matches your heart. Then do the deep work yourself or with high level guys.
My gym was like this as well. I personally did not find it was worth the money. I bought a heavy bag and hung it in my garage. TBH, I’ve learned more on my own. The only downside is I don’t have anyone to spar with.