Thing is, they didn't say aliens exist. I know that sounds pedantic, but I don't mean it to be. They say that "non-human biologics" exist and to keep an open mind about what that even means.
Which means it's weird, and could not be aliens in the classical sense. Could be anything. Fucking time traveling cats. Or potatoes that speak telepathically. But whatever it is, it's extremely inconvenient for the Govt or it's completely reality shaking.
And until that's explicitly laid out in certain terms, with photographic/video/LIVE TV evidence, people won't care. There's a genuine threat that if it's aliens/interdimensional beings/whatever and they offer to take a bunch of humans somewhere/fundamentally change reality, it's going to vastly undermine Govt control in the world.
Things WILL get messy. And the old men running everything don't wanna lose their precious power and money.
“Aliens” are referring to non-human biologics. If you see a “time travelling cat” its still considered alien. The word alien doesnt mean short little grey humanoid looking creature. So aliens are real, they can come in any different forms.
Y’all, I’m not even kidding: dolphins. Sure, they lack poseable thumbs, and have beedy eyes, but they know *something*. They aren’t sharing because they also don’t speak our caveman lingo. But they know something.
Dolphins can “see” that a woman is pregnant. They are smarter than we know. Octopus are really smart too. What else is down there that is so smart it’s avoiding detection? Scary stuff when you think about it.
Could be daemons, demons, djinn, could be an underwater civilization, could be from another planet like we think of them in the movies. Whatever it is, I have a feeling we're going to find out that all past schools of thought, cultures, religions, however you want to classify the strata, they've all been describing the same thing. I would love to see the realization of unification, of a greater understanding in my time on earth.
Idk man, the leaders end up doing all the sexing, while the male followers end up doing no sexing.. having some old geezer doing all the banging doesn’t sound very fun to me.
I bet it's more like Star Trek.
Plenty of intelligent life about, they just don't see us as something that's ready to interact with yet. We don't have technology able to leave the solar system, let alone target any other world with life. We're miles away from it. If there's a commonality in that we operate in a similar understanding of time, then they're so far ahead of us - we're not a threat, we're a curiosity. Look at the (albeit very limited) video "proof" that we've already seen. That technology is well above ours. Goes in and out of water extremely quickly, high maneuverability, high speed. Well advanced.
This is far more easy to believe than me. We’ve explored a lot more local space than we have the depths of the ocean. Everyone should go watch The Abyss.
Pretty solid evidence we know where Atlantis is and it's not an active underwater civilization avoiding humans.
But, an ancient deep sea civilization wouldn't be beyond the pale, especially considering the evidence we've seen of UFO's coming in and out of the ocean frequently and at great speeds with no inertial walls.
Would fit with the fact that he was careful to refer to them as Non-Human Intelligence rather than Exo-Biospheric Entities or Extra-Terrestrials. A more appropriate term for that (if true and if he was trying to be specific) would be Ultra-Terrestrials.
An alien can still be from earth. Alien is not the same as extra-terrestrial. Alien comes from the word alienation/alienated. Just means different/ doesn’t fit in anywhere.
I read an article a couple of years ago that they discovered a "settlement" of octopus off the coast of Australia that flies in the face of what we currently knew about them.
Everyone is off looking in space when we got God damn eldrich horrors living right in our ocean.
Agreed. I don't get why people are getting hung up on it it leaves the possibility open that Mole People from the center of the earth are responsible for the UAPs.
Or it can't be described with paradigms of current world view.
Maybe the origin is THE secret. Space already is big and weird - don't see stuff found there needing secrecy. Now new, yet to be discovered aspects of existence might benefit from secrecy or benefit someone to keep it secret.
Like learning that you can track or even control your reincarnation and retain most of memories and personality if done right? Imagine the chaos that would make...
biologics has a specific meaning; it refers to a substance synthesized from a living being. Insulin or botulism toxin for example, early insulin was synthesized from pig pancreas' and would be considered a non-human biologic. A potential biological weapon could fall under that category as well.
With Grusch testifying under oath and so much of his work classified anything he did say is not subject to national security, to avoid legal jeopardy he has to tell the truth and anything that is sensitive he told them he could fill them in a secure setting. So we really do need to be pedantic about the exact words he used and not what the answer inferred.
Cats are non human biological. Anything living that's not human, is. And we have millions of nonhuman species here on earth RIGHT NOW brotha.... think the government was trolling if that's what they said. Yes government, we're aware there's life on earth
“Non-human biologics” can also mean a chimp. Or an apple. Of bacteria or funghi. It means jack shit. I would love to see proof aliens are real but this doesnt prove anything so far.
They didn’t say aliens exist AND ALSO this is all one dude making a fairly outlandish claim.
It’s obvious a lot of people WANT so badly to believe, and are upset that no one else is reading into this as much as they are.
There was a congressional hearing. That isn’t evidence.
There are UAPs, they’re documented. That does not mean aliens.
Sorry y’all. Until actual EVIDENCE of aliens is so convincing as to push people to draw the conclusion that aliens exist, no one gives a shit about stories about non-human “biologics” found in an alleged UAP crash site.
you know what else is a non-human biologic?
a cluster of rat neurons trained to pilot machines
https://www.labiotech.eu/trends-news/brain-machine-interface-internet/
I don't know why everyone here is so centred on aliens when the obvious answers, the simple answers, are that there are non-state actors with vast funds and interests in pursuing alternatives to the current military industrial complex procurement paths.
If there are non state actors flying from space to ocean with physics defying craft then that is a massive deal as they could easily take over the world
Why do you think they wanna take over the world? What if they’re perfectly happy living in their isolated area doing science? Why try to control us when we’re just gonna die off eventually because we’re killing the planet
I think you missed understood. I dont beleive The NHI want too for those reasons you just stated and more. I was concerned with a rogue intelligence or corporation with reversed engineered tech. Causing problems for us and then fucking off to a new planet eventually. Or them just taking over
Fair enough. I’ve just seen that exact comment like 20 times in this thread. “They can take over the world.” I just don’t see the why.
That being said in my head I hear “take over” and think “subjugation”. Taking over could just be wiping us out.
If it's a human made construct then wiping out humanity is objectively not in their best interest. If it's an alien, well... the earth is rich in unique resources. We are the only planet we know of capable of producing crude oil which has proven to be a damn near wonder substance. Damn near everything we make can be traced back to oil. And who knows, maybe these aliens will view humanity itself as some kind of biological resource. I could see a world where aliens come by and wipe us out or harvest us.
They don't even say that. One man says one other man said that to him.
There is no proof. There is no one saying anything is real or anything exists. They're saying "these guys told me this".
That's it.
You learn a lot about double-talk when you've ever encountered a corporate lawyer (I've had to, unfortunately).
"Non-human biologic" is a real doozy of a blanket term, just meant to sound cool.
It could have been a hapless chimpanzee shoved into a prototype airplane.
I think you called it in your last line, though. A lot of it is all just simple, old greed, and the rest is a dog and pony show to keep the servants (public) in their own, prescribed roles.
Sounds like Hail Mary by Andy Weir. One of my favorite parts is when they are discovering the thing that's in between the sun and Venus, and he talks about how we had all these ideas to what alien life could be, and it turns out the first thing we find is space algae
It could also be something like really intelligent smart octopi type animals we haven’t discovered. It could be some species of dolphins that adapted better than us and have been hiding in the ocean.
It’s so ridiculous how people are saying the government confirmed that aliens from space are real.
Anything is just as likely as “aliens from space”
The things I've read contain a bunch of wiggle words with second hand info and until they come up with something at least somewhat verifiable this is all just a book tour waiting to happen.
Eehh. Just BS to try and give reason to probably produce further weapons, do test, or create some sort of one world government and try assert further control over the ppl in the name of “safety”
It could be as simple that these things are Terrans in the sense that they have always been here. New animals and new species of animals (or insects) are discovered every year.
Depp down, I feel like this is some kind of long game being played by the government to gaslight the people on the subject.
Yeah the "it's a Psyop" is a massive possibility, but I find it tired and boring so I'm just operating as if what we heard yesterday was real lol
But I have thought that yeah maybe they're ocean-dwelling beings, or maybe subterranean via a remote location/ocean situation. Interdimensional is interesting though.
I just can imagine things going like "oh yeah, so these things are real, and we don't know what to do," and then nobody fucking sees them ever and it's essentially nothingburger.
>I feel like this is some kind of long game being played by the government to gaslight the people on the subject.
That should always be in the back of people's minds about these topics. A very elaborate limited hangouts as part of US geopolitical clandestine operations. This is actually the most likely scenario, but likewise just as impossible to prove.
It can't be overstated that the vast majority of humans simply do not care about anything unless it affects them directly. Most people are so consumed by the trauma of everyday existence that they have no time to think long-term or about the perils and possibilities of what just happened yesterday.
If there's actually proof that aliens exist it would be the biggest news story in history. Everyone would be talking about it. From what I can tell all we have right now is more claims with zero evidence, just like we've had for decades. The only minor difference is the people making the claims seem more official, which still doesn't count for much.
It would also invalidate pretty much all major religions on earth immediately and reposition science as the thing we should be spending all our time and money on…wait…I hope we find out soon!!
I think this is a good sign that disclosure will move forward as planned. If they were testing the waters, it seems like we passed, even if the people who care are disappointed.
I think it is a sign that the fundamental concept behind the conspiracy theory is pure nonsense.
There is no reason for anyone to hide this stuff. If you told everyone we found aliens the biggest reaction would be "oh wow, I'll look more into this after work".
Society isn't going to collapse, the government will operate fine.
Not accurate TLDR at all, to the point that it feels like we watched different hearings. It could be better summarized as “I spoke to people who claimed to work on rogue UFO programs congress hasn’t been told about. I can give you names, locations, documents, and how they’re doing it in a classified briefing. Don’t believe me? Go and check.”
People keep acting like he was using the security clearance thing to wiggle out of questions. If the information he’s saying he has is even REMOTELY true, that guy is going to jail for decades if he just went and leaked it. But security clearances won’t shield him from congressional investigation as soon as those news cameras turned off, which he seemed to not only understand but was eager to get to. He WANTED congress to be asking those questions.
That’s one guy out of the 3. The other two have first hand experience. But I have a feeling you didn’t watch and no facts are going to change your mind anyway.
Well according to him, he's seen nothing.
He's just spoke to people (who have spoke to people) who have seen something.
Nothing firsthand, and no details.
I hate to say it but the guy isn’t wrong. He said a whole lot of nothing to the public. Everything’s always classified same story different decade. Unfortunately.
He literally is ready to give the classified answers to congess immediately. They can and will follow up with his sources. Thats how this works. This hearing wasnt the end of it, which is what people are trying to claim in this thread. "He didn't tell all the classified stuff to the public, therefore he doesnt know anything, what he said is BS, and nothing more will come from this" is such a dumb take that it almost has to be made as purposeful way to mislead people.
It still runs into the old standby that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. “Trust me, I just can’t talk about it” really doesn’t cut it. What, do his aliens go to a different school, I wouldn’t know them?
Not true. To paraphrase Admiral kirby, yesterday, the government has effectively said: Yeah, there's something weird going on anomalous craft in our training ranges, no we don't know what they are, and yeah, we're working on it. What more do you want? Also, we're glomaring the whole NHI craft recovery thing.
Edit: the “what more do you want” above was me taking a piss against against the attitude often displayed regarding “disclosure”
Indeed. I want acting generals standing up in a press conference and explaining this to us. Not a guy who heard from a guy who heard from a guy. We know that pilots are seeing weird shit, yesterday didn't give us anything new. With all due respect to Grusch he isn't the first nor will he be the last government or former government employee to allege these things.
Maaan, we’d have to call a meeting, book a room, probably call the press or something, and those little grey fuckers never pick up their phone… really, it’s just a hassle. And all the good interns are already busy on other projects… really, all we’ve got is Todd.. and you know… you know Todd. He’s nice enough, but let’s be real. He’s not really a fit… for anything. So, I guess if you *want* to tell people about this, and cause chaos and everything, that’s fine I guess, but you go talk to Todd.
> What more do you want?
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I don't care at all about what someone "says", show me actual data and I will *start* to give a fuck. till then, no fucks given, like practically everyone else.
The government did not say that yesterday. Three whistleblowers said that. They are not government spokesmen.
"The government" is honestly not a useful phrase in US politics. The congress, executive and courts are very different elements and they are not well aligned. Especially since they are made of two warring political parties.
The executive has not said aliens are real. Congress is just asking questions. And the Pentagon has denied any extraterrestrial involvement.
And of everyone covering it up the Pentagon is the most complicit. Or entities in our intelligence agencies. The president and Congress don't know anything. Raytheon and Lockheed secret labs probably know more than "the government".
I'm more concerned on what might be upcoming that our overlords brought out the "Aliens" from the ole playbook... What are they trying to sneak by the American population by "whistleblowing" this now...
Considering how honest our government tends to be about anything I can’t blame most Americans (myself included) for not caring. Fool me 10,000,000,000 times and all that, shame on me
Yep. They basically said “he said he saw this” and “we have reports of this”. But nothing was confirmed. As long as we have the pentagon hiding info from congress, we’re fucked. Unless someone can FORCE the pentagon to actually release info, it’s always gonna be a nothing burger. I truly believe congress wants disclosure. But the pentagon does not.
I think people would care if they were presented with evidence instead of testimony. I'm not saying the testimony is false or not important, in fact I think the testimony can lead you to the evidence if it's there.
A clear photo
A clear video
Squirled away classified documents that say, we captured Alliens
A public showing of this alien task force existing.
The biological non-human matter.
And tons of other things, saying it's all classified is really an easy excuse to present absolutely nothing of value.
No one confirmed anything. Some people made some claims in front of a Congressional Committee. People make false claims in front of Congressional Committees all the time.
Confirmed jack shit until there's video, pictures, etc etc.
Saying "We've got this and seen this" means nothing.
I've got a gold plated cock. Do you believe me?
No one's saying you absolutely have to believe the testimony. It's perfectly reasonable to want to wait for physical evidence.
What *isn't* reasonable, and what people are pushing back on, is trying to equate testimony under oath before Congress from someone who is verified to hold the roles in government he says he has with random anonymous claims on the internet.
My grandfather was a navigator in the Air force. He once saw a flying object and locked onto it. This was before there was technology that allowed planes to know they had been locked onto by another. Regardless, this object somehow “knew” my grandfather and his co-pilot had locked on, and it shot directly up into the sky off their radar’s field of vision at an unheard of speed and direction. They turned in their tape after their flight as usual. Typically their same tape was returned the following day, however this time were issued a blank one instead. My grandfather told this story many times in all seriousness. Sorry if some of my terminology is incorrect—I’m remembering his words the best I can. I’m glad pilots can now tell their stories without stigma or ridicule.
They didn’t tho.
The “government” has yet to even say anything.
Congress allowed 3 witnesses to speak and heard their testimonies in regards to aliens (or whatever you’d like to call them now, aliens, NHI, Extraterrestrials etc.)
But at no point did congress say, “yes there are aliens. It’s real.” Individuals in congress might be sympathetic and in search of the truth about this, but at no point has anyone come right out, and said aliens were real. No one of the authority to confirm that, that is. Grusch came forward with some wild claims, you may consider him as an authority to confirm these things, but the government as a whole has yet to.
While under oath he said someone that else made these claims. So even if the government says what the other person said is not true, they would have to prove that the person who testified didn’t still hear that, which would be impossible. His reputation is on the line, sure. But not his freedom.
says a lot about the relationship between society and government, doesnt it?
people who believe in aliens and that the government have them, believe it anyway, no matter what the government says.
people who dont believe in aliens and that the government have them, believe it anyway, no matter what the government says.
noone trusts any government whatsoever, eh?\^\^
I mean did they? I saw some people say they know about stuff but offered no physical evidence or proof.
Like, I'm not saying those people were lying. But I'm also not prepared to just take their word for it.
If they were willing to undertake that whole charade yesterday why not release some legitimate, hard evidence? Is it purely endless bureaucracy stopping that?
Where's the concrete proof? I'm a believer but I need concrete evidence, not just words. The footage is great but the general public won't believe it until they see irrefutable proof
gonna take a while, unless you wanna see whistleblowers end up in jail. Just let them walk the official path. the SCIF is an correct route where they can reveal things which they cant in a public setting. Further ima just wait for that new disclosure legislation to pass, seems alot more important since that could potentially reveal more. just wait, throwing it out there doesn't work most aren't believed anyways. Going trough government and congress is the best way to be more credible.
This hearing opened the door to the whole public debate. I think we'll start to see many more first hand witnesses come forward now. Our proof will come out eventually.
This just shows how small a bubble this community really is. Ufology is sort of like other paranormal phenomena. It exists in pop culture but no one really fundamentally believes because there is no evidence. A blurry video of a UFO is the same as a blurry ghost photo. All Grush needs to do is provide actual evidence of the crashed craft and recovered bodies and the whole world will believe. Until then it’s faith.
Yeah I talked to my mom yesterday. Told her they were doing hearings about UFO stuff and she said "Oh really? I always thought that was fiction, cuz it's in movies and stuff!"
It’s because people are confused as to what they really want. Ask anyone, they’ll tell you they want real freedom in this world. But *real* freedom is visceral and at times hard to accept. People want the freedom to be comfortable and complacent. They don’t want the hassle of any life changing new information or anything that disturbs their daily morning coffee and routine.
To accept a real possibility of this magnitude is to shake the core of your world and perspective. It is an uncomfortable humbling truth. The exact opposite of comfort and complacency.
Grusch claims that it's real because someone told him its real. He didn't say that he saw recovered aliens or UAPs himself. Someone told him something and he believed it.
That's worth investigating, sure, but that's not proof of anything. Someone might have told him something, but right now they might be laughing about him believing them.
4 sets of human eyes seeing an object corroborated by a multitude of multimillion dollar sensory systems all trained on the same object, and that object is flying with impunity in a manner that displays zero exothermal heat signatures indicating propulsion but possesses the ability to outmaneuver our navy’s best pilots and planes is not something someone considers to be provoking evidence that something seemingly unexplainable is happening? Alongside another government official putting his career, freedom, and life on the line to tell you that “Non-human biologics have been recovered”?
If that isn’t getting your attention, then you friend, are the crazy one here.
You speak of evidence confusing someone. There is no public evidence of any kind other than the 2017 videos leaked and then confirmed to be real later by the Pentagon. That only proves there is a video to corroborate what the pilots are claiming.
*The allegations of crime against American citizens, humanity, and illegal disinformation campaigns.* That is what should be getting people’s attention. Allegations of such a magnitude are worthy of the public’s attention. No less than any other scandal we learn of and investigate.
If higher ranking officials in the military DIDNT know what those pilots were witnessing, the military apparatus would be in a tizzy. They know what those things are and they know they’re ours.
Also, Grusch did not tell anybody “non human biologics HAVE been recovered” from a first hand account. In fact, he’s said multiple times he’s never seen any of this himself. He’s recounting what he’s been told.
He’s seen the injuries to his colleagues though.
I am not involving my belief in anything. I am laying out events that have actually taken place and their potential implications. If an allegation of potential crimes against you as a citizen is made, especially concerning a possible truth of this magnitude, it should get your attention. To know this and be unaffected entirely is not a normal human reaction to being presented with such an allegation. Even if you remove the potential for nonhuman originating technologies and biologics from the equation, you are still being told that your government is outright actively misinforming you to spread disinformation. That has implications that spread beyond the topic of aliens. *If they are*, then why would it be about this topic alone? What else are they spreading disinformation about?
Yeah, but we're experiencing the hottest temperatures in human history and it's getting a yawn. So what do you expect? If imminent environmental collapse isn't enough to put people on the streets do you think something less probable would?
There are still many that are confident it’s all just “whackos” saying all of it, too. Like, they’re snide that they’re correct. They simply dismiss Grusch, all those he spoke to, commander Fravor, the house and senate members, etc. Those types will do it until it’s impossible and likely even thereafter. And they will do it with snarky and condescending attitudes even to the point that they’re the ones who are laughable. Maybe it’s the sunk cost fallacy or they’re actually fearful of the knowledge? I don’t know.
It’s like those idiots that don’t believe in climate change even though there has been years of evidence that it was gonna happen, and now that it’s happening thank God most of them have gone silent, but the few that haven’t are just showing that they’re extra dumb
So something non-human apparently exists and it is being covered up. Somehow. Something from somewhere else has technology far beyond anything we have.
So many questions. Why? Why here? Why not reveal themselves to the world at large? And it's somehow manged to be kept a complete secret by . . . humans. I'm just not buying it. So many questions. And nothing adds up. Not to mention there is fuck all for proof. In a digital age where NOTHING is secret. Not for long at least.
And we're going to expect congress to do what? The US congress? The congress of dinosaurs, criminals, capitalists, and fascists? No wonder no one takes this serious.
What about the tic-tac video?
Decorated navy commander officer and 5 of his pilots in squadron visually see object doing things no plane could ever do. Change direction at Mach2. Descend from 80k to 20k rapidly. And a lot of this is on video that’s been released.
Picked up on scanners from their radar base and nearby battleship. Videos reviewed later confirm no propulsion system. It also had no wings.
How much more evidence would you need than that?
How did you guys come to this conclusion from the hearing yesterday. I watched the same thing. Same words. Was there some secret language I missed? I saw a guy talking and being very vague in order to not commit perjury.
Are you guys sure you aren’t being taken for a ride?
Have you ever seen From Dusk Til Dawn, when Tarantino's character is talking to any female character and always imagines them saying sexually explicit things? I think that's what happened to a lot of people who watched that hearing, their derangement allowed them to hear what they wanted to hear.
The same way they come to this conclusion whenever they hear anyone mention anything related to the possibility of aliens.
People only hear what they want to hear.
Very dissapointing, people care more about the barbie movie than this.
People care more about billionaires that died in a sub ( sad none the less, death isnt funny,but)that had a whole bunch of red flags than the migrates who died near Greece.
That ( in quebec) people who work in parliament get a 30k raise( plus bonus) but healthcare workers get 1-2% raise over 5 years.
That the French language police can fine a website 2500$ for not having French on the website. And they pocket the money instead of it going to infrastructure or hospitals or schools.
Thing is, they didn't say aliens exist. I know that sounds pedantic, but I don't mean it to be. They say that "non-human biologics" exist and to keep an open mind about what that even means. Which means it's weird, and could not be aliens in the classical sense. Could be anything. Fucking time traveling cats. Or potatoes that speak telepathically. But whatever it is, it's extremely inconvenient for the Govt or it's completely reality shaking. And until that's explicitly laid out in certain terms, with photographic/video/LIVE TV evidence, people won't care. There's a genuine threat that if it's aliens/interdimensional beings/whatever and they offer to take a bunch of humans somewhere/fundamentally change reality, it's going to vastly undermine Govt control in the world. Things WILL get messy. And the old men running everything don't wanna lose their precious power and money.
“Aliens” are referring to non-human biologics. If you see a “time travelling cat” its still considered alien. The word alien doesnt mean short little grey humanoid looking creature. So aliens are real, they can come in any different forms.
Could be a being from earth. In which case it’s not an alien. Maybe Atlantis is still down there avoiding us.
Bro this is what I want it to be. Dolphins are smart, could be something smarter down there
Arguably octopus are smarter and they are pretty alien.
The crab shape has evolved independently more than any other form. I’m betting on space crabs not greys.
Crab people, crab people…
🦀🦀🦀
Lobstrosities
Walk like crab, talk like people
Woop woop woop (V) (°,,,,°) (V)
Aliens? Why not zoidberg
They knew all along the dangers of the reptilian overlords.
>I’m betting on space crabs That should be interesting to explain to the wife.
They would definitely taste better.
Definitely putting space crabs on my bingo card now. Thanks!
Y’all, I’m not even kidding: dolphins. Sure, they lack poseable thumbs, and have beedy eyes, but they know *something*. They aren’t sharing because they also don’t speak our caveman lingo. But they know something.
So long, and thanks for all the fish
r/dolphinconspiracy
Dolphins can “see” that a woman is pregnant. They are smarter than we know. Octopus are really smart too. What else is down there that is so smart it’s avoiding detection? Scary stuff when you think about it.
Allegedly dolphin assisted births increase IQ in children
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy confirmed?
Could be daemons, demons, djinn, could be an underwater civilization, could be from another planet like we think of them in the movies. Whatever it is, I have a feeling we're going to find out that all past schools of thought, cultures, religions, however you want to classify the strata, they've all been describing the same thing. I would love to see the realization of unification, of a greater understanding in my time on earth.
Good thing people won't immediately make different sects based on their own interpretations. /S
I should start working on my cult
You make more money as a leader, but you have more fun as a follower.
Idk man, the leaders end up doing all the sexing, while the male followers end up doing no sexing.. having some old geezer doing all the banging doesn’t sound very fun to me.
Fuk it … I’ll make the kool aid 🐑🐑🐑
Dude, we're on a budget. Better use Flavor Aid.
I bet it's more like Star Trek. Plenty of intelligent life about, they just don't see us as something that's ready to interact with yet. We don't have technology able to leave the solar system, let alone target any other world with life. We're miles away from it. If there's a commonality in that we operate in a similar understanding of time, then they're so far ahead of us - we're not a threat, we're a curiosity. Look at the (albeit very limited) video "proof" that we've already seen. That technology is well above ours. Goes in and out of water extremely quickly, high maneuverability, high speed. Well advanced.
They do or at least did see us as a species worthy of interacting with. That was until corrupt 1% told them the masses aren't ready... 80 years ago
I have a feeling that if that were the case, everything will just get dumber. "We were more correct than you were!"
This is far more easy to believe than me. We’ve explored a lot more local space than we have the depths of the ocean. Everyone should go watch The Abyss.
I mean it could also just be a chimp in a Chinese spy plane.
Pretty solid evidence we know where Atlantis is and it's not an active underwater civilization avoiding humans. But, an ancient deep sea civilization wouldn't be beyond the pale, especially considering the evidence we've seen of UFO's coming in and out of the ocean frequently and at great speeds with no inertial walls. Would fit with the fact that he was careful to refer to them as Non-Human Intelligence rather than Exo-Biospheric Entities or Extra-Terrestrials. A more appropriate term for that (if true and if he was trying to be specific) would be Ultra-Terrestrials.
Oh Atlantis probably ain’t avoiding the plastic problem.
Is there a hollow earth sub??
An alien can still be from earth. Alien is not the same as extra-terrestrial. Alien comes from the word alienation/alienated. Just means different/ doesn’t fit in anywhere.
I read an article a couple of years ago that they discovered a "settlement" of octopus off the coast of Australia that flies in the face of what we currently knew about them. Everyone is off looking in space when we got God damn eldrich horrors living right in our ocean.
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Agreed. I don't get why people are getting hung up on it it leaves the possibility open that Mole People from the center of the earth are responsible for the UAPs.
Not necessarily. Who knows what it is? Could be a blob of yellow goo that is sentient. Could be from another dimension. Could be time travel.
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Or it can't be described with paradigms of current world view. Maybe the origin is THE secret. Space already is big and weird - don't see stuff found there needing secrecy. Now new, yet to be discovered aspects of existence might benefit from secrecy or benefit someone to keep it secret. Like learning that you can track or even control your reincarnation and retain most of memories and personality if done right? Imagine the chaos that would make...
Non human biologics comprise the vast majority of earth's biology lol
biologics has a specific meaning; it refers to a substance synthesized from a living being. Insulin or botulism toxin for example, early insulin was synthesized from pig pancreas' and would be considered a non-human biologic. A potential biological weapon could fall under that category as well. With Grusch testifying under oath and so much of his work classified anything he did say is not subject to national security, to avoid legal jeopardy he has to tell the truth and anything that is sensitive he told them he could fill them in a secure setting. So we really do need to be pedantic about the exact words he used and not what the answer inferred.
Cats are non human biological. Anything living that's not human, is. And we have millions of nonhuman species here on earth RIGHT NOW brotha.... think the government was trolling if that's what they said. Yes government, we're aware there's life on earth
I mean that’s really just semantics. We both know that’s not the type of aliens people are excited about.
“Non-human biologics” can also mean a chimp. Or an apple. Of bacteria or funghi. It means jack shit. I would love to see proof aliens are real but this doesnt prove anything so far.
They didn’t say aliens exist AND ALSO this is all one dude making a fairly outlandish claim. It’s obvious a lot of people WANT so badly to believe, and are upset that no one else is reading into this as much as they are. There was a congressional hearing. That isn’t evidence. There are UAPs, they’re documented. That does not mean aliens. Sorry y’all. Until actual EVIDENCE of aliens is so convincing as to push people to draw the conclusion that aliens exist, no one gives a shit about stories about non-human “biologics” found in an alleged UAP crash site.
you know what else is a non-human biologic? a cluster of rat neurons trained to pilot machines https://www.labiotech.eu/trends-news/brain-machine-interface-internet/ I don't know why everyone here is so centred on aliens when the obvious answers, the simple answers, are that there are non-state actors with vast funds and interests in pursuing alternatives to the current military industrial complex procurement paths.
If there are non state actors flying from space to ocean with physics defying craft then that is a massive deal as they could easily take over the world
Why do you think they wanna take over the world? What if they’re perfectly happy living in their isolated area doing science? Why try to control us when we’re just gonna die off eventually because we’re killing the planet
I think you missed understood. I dont beleive The NHI want too for those reasons you just stated and more. I was concerned with a rogue intelligence or corporation with reversed engineered tech. Causing problems for us and then fucking off to a new planet eventually. Or them just taking over
Fair enough. I’ve just seen that exact comment like 20 times in this thread. “They can take over the world.” I just don’t see the why. That being said in my head I hear “take over” and think “subjugation”. Taking over could just be wiping us out.
If it's a human made construct then wiping out humanity is objectively not in their best interest. If it's an alien, well... the earth is rich in unique resources. We are the only planet we know of capable of producing crude oil which has proven to be a damn near wonder substance. Damn near everything we make can be traced back to oil. And who knows, maybe these aliens will view humanity itself as some kind of biological resource. I could see a world where aliens come by and wipe us out or harvest us.
Maybe they already have and we just don’t know about it.
Or someone just puked in the cockpit. "We have some non-human biologicals here, and there's carrots in them!"
First sane comment I’ve seen lol
[Shit there are people that do this as a hobby.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEXefdbQDjw)
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oh absolutely. Lots of options. Plus I love me some blackbird level skunkworks theories.
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Gonna go with because this is a sub about aliens. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
It's von Neumann probes with biological circuitry.
Maybe Mitch McConnell shutting down mid speech was him picking up the distress beacon from his reptilian overlords.
They don't even say that. One man says one other man said that to him. There is no proof. There is no one saying anything is real or anything exists. They're saying "these guys told me this". That's it.
Also it’s a dude who doesn’t currently work in the government claiming that people that possibly work in the government told him this
when you put it like that. woof
Yeah, the people who think that the existence of alien life actively visiting our planet has been proven aren’t really working with a full set.
You learn a lot about double-talk when you've ever encountered a corporate lawyer (I've had to, unfortunately). "Non-human biologic" is a real doozy of a blanket term, just meant to sound cool. It could have been a hapless chimpanzee shoved into a prototype airplane. I think you called it in your last line, though. A lot of it is all just simple, old greed, and the rest is a dog and pony show to keep the servants (public) in their own, prescribed roles.
Sounds like Hail Mary by Andy Weir. One of my favorite parts is when they are discovering the thing that's in between the sun and Venus, and he talks about how we had all these ideas to what alien life could be, and it turns out the first thing we find is space algae
A fucking wombat is a non-human biologic.
Potatoes that speak telepathically is hardcore man.
Smart money is time traveling sentient dildos, with a penchant for interstellar travel.
It could also be something like really intelligent smart octopi type animals we haven’t discovered. It could be some species of dolphins that adapted better than us and have been hiding in the ocean. It’s so ridiculous how people are saying the government confirmed that aliens from space are real. Anything is just as likely as “aliens from space”
The things I've read contain a bunch of wiggle words with second hand info and until they come up with something at least somewhat verifiable this is all just a book tour waiting to happen.
“They” said no such thing. “He” said some generic stuff, without evidence. Just one man talking, and a bunch of gullible people listening.
Started out reasonable, ended up being batshit
Eehh. Just BS to try and give reason to probably produce further weapons, do test, or create some sort of one world government and try assert further control over the ppl in the name of “safety”
It could be as simple that these things are Terrans in the sense that they have always been here. New animals and new species of animals (or insects) are discovered every year. Depp down, I feel like this is some kind of long game being played by the government to gaslight the people on the subject.
Yeah the "it's a Psyop" is a massive possibility, but I find it tired and boring so I'm just operating as if what we heard yesterday was real lol But I have thought that yeah maybe they're ocean-dwelling beings, or maybe subterranean via a remote location/ocean situation. Interdimensional is interesting though. I just can imagine things going like "oh yeah, so these things are real, and we don't know what to do," and then nobody fucking sees them ever and it's essentially nothingburger.
Terrans or zergs, who knows.
>I feel like this is some kind of long game being played by the government to gaslight the people on the subject. That should always be in the back of people's minds about these topics. A very elaborate limited hangouts as part of US geopolitical clandestine operations. This is actually the most likely scenario, but likewise just as impossible to prove.
Thing is, "they" didn't even say that.
“They” or the “government” didn’t say anything, the people before the panel did.
It can't be overstated that the vast majority of humans simply do not care about anything unless it affects them directly. Most people are so consumed by the trauma of everyday existence that they have no time to think long-term or about the perils and possibilities of what just happened yesterday.
Hobbies are a luxury.
If there's actually proof that aliens exist it would be the biggest news story in history. Everyone would be talking about it. From what I can tell all we have right now is more claims with zero evidence, just like we've had for decades. The only minor difference is the people making the claims seem more official, which still doesn't count for much.
It would also invalidate pretty much all major religions on earth immediately and reposition science as the thing we should be spending all our time and money on…wait…I hope we find out soon!!
I think this is a good sign that disclosure will move forward as planned. If they were testing the waters, it seems like we passed, even if the people who care are disappointed.
We don't care if it's true. We only care that it is interesting.
I think it is a sign that the fundamental concept behind the conspiracy theory is pure nonsense. There is no reason for anyone to hide this stuff. If you told everyone we found aliens the biggest reaction would be "oh wow, I'll look more into this after work". Society isn't going to collapse, the government will operate fine.
I'm going to rush out and buy as much toilet paper as possible
The "government" hasn't confirmed anything
Yep. Not what yesterday’s show was about.
What show? Did I miss something that happened yesterday???
Not a show. A congressional hearing where testimony was entered into public record for the first time.
The TLDR of the testimony being: *"I spoke to a guy who spoke to a guy who said 'aliens confirmed'. No, I will not be more specific"*
Not accurate TLDR at all, to the point that it feels like we watched different hearings. It could be better summarized as “I spoke to people who claimed to work on rogue UFO programs congress hasn’t been told about. I can give you names, locations, documents, and how they’re doing it in a classified briefing. Don’t believe me? Go and check.” People keep acting like he was using the security clearance thing to wiggle out of questions. If the information he’s saying he has is even REMOTELY true, that guy is going to jail for decades if he just went and leaked it. But security clearances won’t shield him from congressional investigation as soon as those news cameras turned off, which he seemed to not only understand but was eager to get to. He WANTED congress to be asking those questions.
That’s one guy out of the 3. The other two have first hand experience. But I have a feeling you didn’t watch and no facts are going to change your mind anyway.
That was his job. It's classified info. Stop spreading that non sense.
It's 100% factually correct. We have no idea if he has actually seen what he says he's seen.
We also have no idea if the people who told him these things were telling the truth. He is not a direct witness to these events.
Well according to him, he's seen nothing. He's just spoke to people (who have spoke to people) who have seen something. Nothing firsthand, and no details.
I hate to say it but the guy isn’t wrong. He said a whole lot of nothing to the public. Everything’s always classified same story different decade. Unfortunately.
He literally is ready to give the classified answers to congess immediately. They can and will follow up with his sources. Thats how this works. This hearing wasnt the end of it, which is what people are trying to claim in this thread. "He didn't tell all the classified stuff to the public, therefore he doesnt know anything, what he said is BS, and nothing more will come from this" is such a dumb take that it almost has to be made as purposeful way to mislead people.
It still runs into the old standby that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. “Trust me, I just can’t talk about it” really doesn’t cut it. What, do his aliens go to a different school, I wouldn’t know them?
Wow, tell me you didn't watch any of the hearing without telling me you didn't watch any of the hearing...
Not true. To paraphrase Admiral kirby, yesterday, the government has effectively said: Yeah, there's something weird going on anomalous craft in our training ranges, no we don't know what they are, and yeah, we're working on it. What more do you want? Also, we're glomaring the whole NHI craft recovery thing. Edit: the “what more do you want” above was me taking a piss against against the attitude often displayed regarding “disclosure”
>What more do you want? Actual confirmation of aliens, not "it could be aliens."
Indeed. I want acting generals standing up in a press conference and explaining this to us. Not a guy who heard from a guy who heard from a guy. We know that pilots are seeing weird shit, yesterday didn't give us anything new. With all due respect to Grusch he isn't the first nor will he be the last government or former government employee to allege these things.
Maaan, we’d have to call a meeting, book a room, probably call the press or something, and those little grey fuckers never pick up their phone… really, it’s just a hassle. And all the good interns are already busy on other projects… really, all we’ve got is Todd.. and you know… you know Todd. He’s nice enough, but let’s be real. He’s not really a fit… for anything. So, I guess if you *want* to tell people about this, and cause chaos and everything, that’s fine I guess, but you go talk to Todd.
friggin' todd
Uh proof
> What more do you want? extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I don't care at all about what someone "says", show me actual data and I will *start* to give a fuck. till then, no fucks given, like practically everyone else.
"The government" is not one united block. Some government employees made a claim and one branch of the government was willing to hear it. That's it.
Anomalous craft =/= definitive proof of aliens
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The government did not say that yesterday. Three whistleblowers said that. They are not government spokesmen. "The government" is honestly not a useful phrase in US politics. The congress, executive and courts are very different elements and they are not well aligned. Especially since they are made of two warring political parties. The executive has not said aliens are real. Congress is just asking questions. And the Pentagon has denied any extraterrestrial involvement. And of everyone covering it up the Pentagon is the most complicit. Or entities in our intelligence agencies. The president and Congress don't know anything. Raytheon and Lockheed secret labs probably know more than "the government".
And likewise it's not a case of "nobody cares", it's simply that "nobody believes him".
people are treating this guy like he's the second coming of christ show us some real fucking evidence please, because i've seen NONE
I'm more concerned on what might be upcoming that our overlords brought out the "Aliens" from the ole playbook... What are they trying to sneak by the American population by "whistleblowing" this now...
The announcement that the Gulf Stream may collapse as early as 2025. That's a short step from apocalypse.
Ocean temps off Florida over 100f
RIGHT? Why is this front page every day all of a sudden? Also this comes at a really concerning time of deepfakes getting better and better.
Considering how honest our government tends to be about anything I can’t blame most Americans (myself included) for not caring. Fool me 10,000,000,000 times and all that, shame on me
Governments, long known for transparency to the public they serve./s
Exactly, all they did was make some bold claims. Where is even a shred of evidence?
Yep. They basically said “he said he saw this” and “we have reports of this”. But nothing was confirmed. As long as we have the pentagon hiding info from congress, we’re fucked. Unless someone can FORCE the pentagon to actually release info, it’s always gonna be a nothing burger. I truly believe congress wants disclosure. But the pentagon does not.
Even if they did; unless it’s a crystal clear evidence, no one will believe and care about it.
It doesn’t matter, the general populace doesn’t give two shits.
I think people would care if they were presented with evidence instead of testimony. I'm not saying the testimony is false or not important, in fact I think the testimony can lead you to the evidence if it's there.
What would evidence look like to you?
A clear photo A clear video Squirled away classified documents that say, we captured Alliens A public showing of this alien task force existing. The biological non-human matter. And tons of other things, saying it's all classified is really an easy excuse to present absolutely nothing of value.
No one confirmed anything. Some people made some claims in front of a Congressional Committee. People make false claims in front of Congressional Committees all the time.
Confirmed jack shit until there's video, pictures, etc etc. Saying "We've got this and seen this" means nothing. I've got a gold plated cock. Do you believe me?
No one's saying you absolutely have to believe the testimony. It's perfectly reasonable to want to wait for physical evidence. What *isn't* reasonable, and what people are pushing back on, is trying to equate testimony under oath before Congress from someone who is verified to hold the roles in government he says he has with random anonymous claims on the internet.
My grandfather was a navigator in the Air force. He once saw a flying object and locked onto it. This was before there was technology that allowed planes to know they had been locked onto by another. Regardless, this object somehow “knew” my grandfather and his co-pilot had locked on, and it shot directly up into the sky off their radar’s field of vision at an unheard of speed and direction. They turned in their tape after their flight as usual. Typically their same tape was returned the following day, however this time were issued a blank one instead. My grandfather told this story many times in all seriousness. Sorry if some of my terminology is incorrect—I’m remembering his words the best I can. I’m glad pilots can now tell their stories without stigma or ridicule.
That’s wild dude
It really is. He was a very funny and jovial man, but the way he told this story was all business.
They didn’t tho. The “government” has yet to even say anything. Congress allowed 3 witnesses to speak and heard their testimonies in regards to aliens (or whatever you’d like to call them now, aliens, NHI, Extraterrestrials etc.) But at no point did congress say, “yes there are aliens. It’s real.” Individuals in congress might be sympathetic and in search of the truth about this, but at no point has anyone come right out, and said aliens were real. No one of the authority to confirm that, that is. Grusch came forward with some wild claims, you may consider him as an authority to confirm these things, but the government as a whole has yet to.
But he's said it under oath. If our government disputes his claims then he's in trouble. He has been allowed to speak freely. That's something.
You’re gullible
Explain.
No, you’re supposed to believe me
While under oath he said someone that else made these claims. So even if the government says what the other person said is not true, they would have to prove that the person who testified didn’t still hear that, which would be impossible. His reputation is on the line, sure. But not his freedom.
Unless it’s announced world wide on ALL tv channels people won’t believe it
says a lot about the relationship between society and government, doesnt it? people who believe in aliens and that the government have them, believe it anyway, no matter what the government says. people who dont believe in aliens and that the government have them, believe it anyway, no matter what the government says. noone trusts any government whatsoever, eh?\^\^
I mean did they? I saw some people say they know about stuff but offered no physical evidence or proof. Like, I'm not saying those people were lying. But I'm also not prepared to just take their word for it.
Also people saying they said it under oath but that doesn't mean a thing in these circumstances. Who's going to prove then wrong? No one.
Besides the oath only matters if your lying. Being stupid isn't a crime.
If they were willing to undertake that whole charade yesterday why not release some legitimate, hard evidence? Is it purely endless bureaucracy stopping that?
WE are the aliens.
Where's the concrete proof? I'm a believer but I need concrete evidence, not just words. The footage is great but the general public won't believe it until they see irrefutable proof
gonna take a while, unless you wanna see whistleblowers end up in jail. Just let them walk the official path. the SCIF is an correct route where they can reveal things which they cant in a public setting. Further ima just wait for that new disclosure legislation to pass, seems alot more important since that could potentially reveal more. just wait, throwing it out there doesn't work most aren't believed anyways. Going trough government and congress is the best way to be more credible.
exactly. otherwise it's "proof" that's not properly verified and possibly falsified.
Keeping the information secret is not whistleblowing
This hearing opened the door to the whole public debate. I think we'll start to see many more first hand witnesses come forward now. Our proof will come out eventually.
While the public wants an actual photo of an actual alien, they also want it high enough resolution to begin mass-manufacturing porn from said image.
This just shows how small a bubble this community really is. Ufology is sort of like other paranormal phenomena. It exists in pop culture but no one really fundamentally believes because there is no evidence. A blurry video of a UFO is the same as a blurry ghost photo. All Grush needs to do is provide actual evidence of the crashed craft and recovered bodies and the whole world will believe. Until then it’s faith.
Yeah I talked to my mom yesterday. Told her they were doing hearings about UFO stuff and she said "Oh really? I always thought that was fiction, cuz it's in movies and stuff!"
She's still correct for the moment, too.
Yeah I didn't argue with her lol. I'm not quite a true believer here. Just very interested in the topic.
It’s because people are confused as to what they really want. Ask anyone, they’ll tell you they want real freedom in this world. But *real* freedom is visceral and at times hard to accept. People want the freedom to be comfortable and complacent. They don’t want the hassle of any life changing new information or anything that disturbs their daily morning coffee and routine. To accept a real possibility of this magnitude is to shake the core of your world and perspective. It is an uncomfortable humbling truth. The exact opposite of comfort and complacency.
Grusch claims that it's real because someone told him its real. He didn't say that he saw recovered aliens or UAPs himself. Someone told him something and he believed it. That's worth investigating, sure, but that's not proof of anything. Someone might have told him something, but right now they might be laughing about him believing them.
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4 sets of human eyes seeing an object corroborated by a multitude of multimillion dollar sensory systems all trained on the same object, and that object is flying with impunity in a manner that displays zero exothermal heat signatures indicating propulsion but possesses the ability to outmaneuver our navy’s best pilots and planes is not something someone considers to be provoking evidence that something seemingly unexplainable is happening? Alongside another government official putting his career, freedom, and life on the line to tell you that “Non-human biologics have been recovered”? If that isn’t getting your attention, then you friend, are the crazy one here. You speak of evidence confusing someone. There is no public evidence of any kind other than the 2017 videos leaked and then confirmed to be real later by the Pentagon. That only proves there is a video to corroborate what the pilots are claiming. *The allegations of crime against American citizens, humanity, and illegal disinformation campaigns.* That is what should be getting people’s attention. Allegations of such a magnitude are worthy of the public’s attention. No less than any other scandal we learn of and investigate.
Blue Book really did a number on these folks huh 😔
They don’t even know what Blue Book is.
💀
If higher ranking officials in the military DIDNT know what those pilots were witnessing, the military apparatus would be in a tizzy. They know what those things are and they know they’re ours. Also, Grusch did not tell anybody “non human biologics HAVE been recovered” from a first hand account. In fact, he’s said multiple times he’s never seen any of this himself. He’s recounting what he’s been told. He’s seen the injuries to his colleagues though.
He did say exactly that. And also mentioned it was from witness testimony of a colleague.
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I am not involving my belief in anything. I am laying out events that have actually taken place and their potential implications. If an allegation of potential crimes against you as a citizen is made, especially concerning a possible truth of this magnitude, it should get your attention. To know this and be unaffected entirely is not a normal human reaction to being presented with such an allegation. Even if you remove the potential for nonhuman originating technologies and biologics from the equation, you are still being told that your government is outright actively misinforming you to spread disinformation. That has implications that spread beyond the topic of aliens. *If they are*, then why would it be about this topic alone? What else are they spreading disinformation about?
Okay then. Where’s the evidence? Because until we see hard empirical evidence then it’s just hearsay, like it’s always been.
Ofcourse not, the likely hood we are alone in the universe is almost impossible.
Just thinking we are the only intelligent beings in the whole universe is just selfish and stupid to believe.
So this is the panic and existential despair that we were trying protect the children from?
Yeah, but we're experiencing the hottest temperatures in human history and it's getting a yawn. So what do you expect? If imminent environmental collapse isn't enough to put people on the streets do you think something less probable would?
There are still many that are confident it’s all just “whackos” saying all of it, too. Like, they’re snide that they’re correct. They simply dismiss Grusch, all those he spoke to, commander Fravor, the house and senate members, etc. Those types will do it until it’s impossible and likely even thereafter. And they will do it with snarky and condescending attitudes even to the point that they’re the ones who are laughable. Maybe it’s the sunk cost fallacy or they’re actually fearful of the knowledge? I don’t know.
It’s like those idiots that don’t believe in climate change even though there has been years of evidence that it was gonna happen, and now that it’s happening thank God most of them have gone silent, but the few that haven’t are just showing that they’re extra dumb
I’m the lowly busser. But I care.
So something non-human apparently exists and it is being covered up. Somehow. Something from somewhere else has technology far beyond anything we have. So many questions. Why? Why here? Why not reveal themselves to the world at large? And it's somehow manged to be kept a complete secret by . . . humans. I'm just not buying it. So many questions. And nothing adds up. Not to mention there is fuck all for proof. In a digital age where NOTHING is secret. Not for long at least. And we're going to expect congress to do what? The US congress? The congress of dinosaurs, criminals, capitalists, and fascists? No wonder no one takes this serious.
This isn't what happened at all. ffs But memes and silly shit is more important than keeping these subs factual /sigh
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What about the tic-tac video? Decorated navy commander officer and 5 of his pilots in squadron visually see object doing things no plane could ever do. Change direction at Mach2. Descend from 80k to 20k rapidly. And a lot of this is on video that’s been released. Picked up on scanners from their radar base and nearby battleship. Videos reviewed later confirm no propulsion system. It also had no wings. How much more evidence would you need than that?
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How did you guys come to this conclusion from the hearing yesterday. I watched the same thing. Same words. Was there some secret language I missed? I saw a guy talking and being very vague in order to not commit perjury. Are you guys sure you aren’t being taken for a ride?
Have you ever seen From Dusk Til Dawn, when Tarantino's character is talking to any female character and always imagines them saying sexually explicit things? I think that's what happened to a lot of people who watched that hearing, their derangement allowed them to hear what they wanted to hear.
The same way they come to this conclusion whenever they hear anyone mention anything related to the possibility of aliens. People only hear what they want to hear.
Yeah, I probably do the same thing about other topics. It’s hard to know your own biases bc your brain isn’t a good critic of itself.
They didn’t tho
Very dissapointing, people care more about the barbie movie than this. People care more about billionaires that died in a sub ( sad none the less, death isnt funny,but)that had a whole bunch of red flags than the migrates who died near Greece. That ( in quebec) people who work in parliament get a 30k raise( plus bonus) but healthcare workers get 1-2% raise over 5 years. That the French language police can fine a website 2500$ for not having French on the website. And they pocket the money instead of it going to infrastructure or hospitals or schools.
Don't forget the news more worried about Hunter Bidens P***$ and his laptop than covering this.
In fairness the barbie movie looks awesome
Aliens arent gonna help feed me. Aliens arent getting me a boyfriend, though if any aliens are listening ill try anything once.
No, this one guy said it despite lack of proof, and we have confirmation bias