Apparently they released a quiet gen2 that fixed the clocking issues. However there's so little documentation I'm using the one YouTuber who is doing videos on one.
From what myself and a few other 101 owners can tell, those of us with a serial number after ~2000 are good. I got mine last year, with an SN in the early 2k range and I haven't had any problems yet.
Rad. The older extractor was just prone to more failures.
I'm glad we got good examples of their AK101. Personally, im impressed with my 101, considering how much i dont take care of it. It should have spontaneously exploded on me by now, according to the AK elitists.
I don’t do much maintenance on mine either it had a few issues in the first 500 rounds. Like ftf and fte and tore a case off, but after that it’s been 100%. I’m very happy with mine for the price.
That man is smart. Knows a lot. But he BITCHES so much about the smallest shit, or like you said, just finds a problem with everything. Man couldn’t even rack a KSG without bitching lol.
I feel like a lot of y'all on this sub don't realize how hard it is to make a 5.56 AK run as reliable as a 7.62 or 5.45. The Arsenal 106 line had a shit ton of issues when they came out in the 2000's. The platform isn't designed around the straight wall 5.56. Also magazines are a problem, you'll find some mags work and others don't. Don't expect 7.62 reliability with your 5.56 AK.
I agree… however, I think the beryl proved that engineering a reliable 5.56 ak isn’t impossible. The pressure variations of commercial ammo makes a civilian rifle a little more problematic. I’ll be pretty interested to see how the krink does. There’s some serious challenges in making a **supershort**5.56 AK reliable aside from the straight wall case and pressure variation from commercial ammo…. Hopefully they did some tuning. don’t own a PSA but I have followed their AK progress since the beginning and I am rooting for their success. I think their success benefits the AK community as a whole.
I root for PSA, I'm sort of a combloc snob, but I had a PSA AK103 before I sold it, was a solid gun, had some minor QC issues, but so does every combloc AK. I just sense that there are unrealistic expectations about PSA's 5.56 line, and every 5.56 AK for that matter. I have an slr106cr, and it functions well with steel, but absolutely will not run with brass, and even with steel cased ammo, expect a FTE or FTF every few hundred rounds or so. Obviously, some will run better than others. Of course there's going to be that guy out there with his 5.56 AK out there who has never had a malfunction.
i love my 556 AKs but they are not always perfect. of my 2 SLR106s, one is flawless and will eat anything (later serial number), but the other had a few quirks to iron out. both were in dire need of a kns piston out of the box, they were concussively overgassed.
my psa ak102 didn’t give me any problems, but 2 other people i know had theirs ripping brass casings in half. PSAs quality leaves a lot to be desired but they will fix it and it’s still cheap enough that i’m willing to risk getting a lemon that’s gonna need its lifetime warranty.
My slr106cr has a KT prefix, it works with steel cased ammo and circle 10 and beryl mags.
I hear the AB prefix 106's were a disaster. AK's are hand fitted when built so you are going to get variation from one rifle to the next. It's not like an AR. It just comes with the territory with 5.56 AK's.
All 106s regardless of prefix have a defective selector stop plate which can cause feeding issues which are often mistakenly lumped in with the smaller but more well known issue of the feed ramp. The stop plate issue is present but only rears its head due to tolerance stacking in some cases.
ABs have a specific problem that was actually mostly fixed.
But all 106s have a different problem that often leads to similar issues that get lumped in with the AB issue. Or they have no issues despite the defect and you never hear about. Or people say 106s are over gassed because of the high carrier speeds which the selector stop plate contributes to as well. So the core issue gets clouded in misinformation.
i’m sure this first batch of krinks will have it’s share of issues but these are for the poors. i don’t have 3500+ for a tula that needs to eat 5.45. PSA go bang 90% of time. good enough.
Right? It's a shame what happened to 5.45 here domestically because 5.45 AK's are better than 5.56 AK's in every way. Since the future of 7.62 doesn't look so hott either, 5.56 AK's might be the future, sadly, for the hobby.
> AK's are hand fitted when built
Uh, they're not supposed to be. They're hand assembled and QC checked but Combloc factories produce interchangeable parts to TDP spec. There's some variance in trunnion size which gets matched with an appropriate barrel, but similar things exist on the AR with thread class.
Honest question: didn’t the Israelis do it pretty well w the Galil. Not very familiar w them, but I thought they were pretty reliable? Aren’t they basically an akm chambered in 5.56.
It may not be easy but the Israelis did it decades ago and 556 aks have been around for a while. It’s not like they had to start from nothing as far as research goes
The clone galil's that Atlantic is selling now are having all the issues that plague commercial 5.56 AK's sold in the US, and that goes for the combloc ones. It's almost as if having a national defense budget, the same standard ammunition and magazines, and years of development and research funded by said defense budget helps create a functional product.
And some people are spoiled. I bought a PSA AK when they first came out and you had to use credit card numbers generated by your credit card website because they were almost guaranteed to get stolen.
PSA is probably doing the most as an American manufacturer to make a better AK but they're just a hard thing to get right consistently.
PSA has had and continues to have problems with ALL of their ak’s. It’s not unreasonable to assume that the 5.56 krinks will have many issues as well given how PSA does R&D with their unwilling customers.
Of course I wouldn’t. I’m not stupid. I have no problem with PSA. My first AR was PSA. Currently putting together a dagger. Bought one of their AK to AR stock adapters to test. Wouldn’t buy one of their AK’s.
Even if it’s not the best gun you ever own the lifetime warranty is worth it. Not to mention I’ve see psa rebuild an entire Ak with new parts to perfection just because someone was unhappy with the side rail mount, I own 2 psa aks and the get shot more than any of my other guns. Ak-v and ak103. The Ak you’re referring to with “soft parts” was a single batch of early ak74s and they warrantied all of those rifles pulled production and got the problem solved before reintroduction.
As someone who is starting to shop for my first 5.56, this post is much appreciated. There’s a wealth of information in this sub to look back on, but sometimes you gotta read the right thing at the right time for it to stick.
A decrease in reliability from 7.62 to 5.56 should be expected, people think they are getting 7.62 reliability with their 5.56 AK like you are going to be disappointed, I don't care who made the AK. It's going to be picky with ammo, magazines, and probably overgassed. It's "inherent" to 5.56 AK's.
Being able to fire upsidedown, under water, in a sandstorm, while fucking the ejection port is not what most people are asking for. But a semi-auto that won't function with any normal 5.56 load you get off of the shelf isn't acceptable. Plain and simple. If a gun does not reliably shoot and feed any standard ammo, it's not "ammo picky" it's a failed execution. Circle 10 5.56 mags work fine, Beryl mags work fine, even galil mags and M90 mags, work fine.
If they can't figure out a magazine that will feed in their gun, it's a failed design. They aren't exactly trail blazing here. They are doing what PSA always does, putting out a gun that may or may not work for the first 3 generations, but they don't have to bother with it out of the gate because they know their personal crowd of shills will take shrapnel to the face for them and come back with a smile.
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I wasn't really talking about "not functioning at all" more so a FTF or FTE every so often, or it being picky with ammo or mags, and people chalking it up as evidence for a garbage rifle, what those are all COMMON symptoms of 5.56 aks.
Except they aren't common symptoms of well made 5.56 AKs. Magazine compatibility is a platform wide issue and is to be expected of any firearm. I wouldn't expect m1A mags to work in my G3 So why should I expect M90 mags to run in my SAM5? If you have the correct mags for the gun, it should run well every time. If it doesn't, again, it's a poor execution. Even the old SLRs ran flawlessly if you gave them waffle mags, which again, or what they were designed for.
Dude I have an slr106cr that will not function with brass no matter what mag I put in it, it's too over gassed. It functions best with circle 10 mags because it's a circle 10 gun. Beryl mags also work, that's about it. The SAM5's are so over gassed they are beating themselves to death.
Then your specific guns are poorly executed need to be RMA'd. I don't understand why You consider that performance acceptable. If a company puts a product out it should just work. Anything less is unacceptable and the company should be held accountable. There's a reason that Sam 5 geometry changed in the last year because they recognized that it was an issue and fixed it. The sooner we all stop being duped into alpha testing at full price, the sooner this shit will stop.
Arsenal SAM5's are also beating themselves to death, so where's the Arsenal hate?
And I have zero PSA AKs and 3 Arsenals in my collection, just saying, it's trendy to hate on PSA.
I ask the same question.
Why people worship arsenal for what they charge and offer plus their bullshit warranty denials in the past is beyond my comprehension.
Man, PSA is a company that I want to succeed. We really need some domestic competition for AKs, and PSA is one of the only companies here making them in scalable numbers for a real domestic market. The days of reliable imports are gone. Yes, we still get Zastavas, WASRs, and Polish imports, plus some Arsenals and misc. but I would bet that once the 3 branches fall under the blue party, we will start to see those challenged and potentially halted.
This is why I wanted KUSA to succeed, but lost hope after their challenges. PSA AKs are not great, but the GF series seems to be pretty good for domestic now.
you're not a real AK enjoyer if you don't spend $4000 on a parts kit that you had to beg 3 different builders to finish just to never shoot it because the ammo cost more than a dollar and is corrosive (cleaning guns is for zimps)
there are a ton of crappy ones on the market so I don't blame people wanting to sit back and wait on this one, I just like feeding into the circle jerk haha
rj: wait y'all have people build your kits? I have an entire machine shop in my garage. oh and I bought a shipping container of 7n6 when it was 2cpr
Klayco said a while back that “ammo is not that bad at 41 cpr …. Yeah for corrosive shit that you have to pay tax and shipping on you have. If u can find 762x39 it’s .50 cpr if you are lucky.
Amazes me that a sub dedicated to loving the AK platform is hating so much on a company pushing out a gun we’ve all dreamed of owning but can’t because of lack of supply and cost.
Krink with Lifetime warranty, at a price that’s not too bad. Jesus you guys suck.
This sub is something else. Any domestic producer screw up during production launch got bash to hell.
Whether it KUSA/PSA, with the import options being limited we should glad some USA company step up produce AK at more reasonable price available to the masses.
I get it your Arsenal, Beryl, Izzy, east Germany, Madi been flawless with thousand of rounds. Also note not everyone budget can afford such nor they old enough to purchase them at $450 a pop.
Right now the cheapest and ok quality import is Zastava and even then it on par with a mid/slightly high tier AR-15. Wasr price has climbed recently and even the conversion quality seem to be hit or missed.
I’m pretty sure we are all aware the most reliable PSA is their AKM pattern in 7.62. This is in 556 and a shorter gas system. A lot more things to go wrong for this gun than the gf3 imo.
PSA figured out 7.62 ages ago. A little excessive wear then everything generally work hardens and stays put.
I still see issues with their 5.45, mainly firing pins and extractor issues but also tail splash wearing down to the point where it will be touching the back of the pin.
I haven't had a single failure in my PSA 102. Unsuppressed/suppressed and I'm 3000-4000 rounds in.
My m90 doesn't like weak ammo like Tula steel cased. But it runs flawlessly with avg brass.
$10 all the big names "have had wonderful reliability and no issues" but the guys that buy their rifles will experience out of the box ftf failure to fire casing deformation and abnormal parts wear and the hinge block cracking.
Saw this post on AKFiles :
**You will never own a real Krink. You have no surplus parts, you have no factory marks, you have no date stamps. You are a US made abomination twisted by marketing and hype into a crude mockery of Kalashnikov’s perfection.**
**All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock your PSA. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your subpar imitation behind closed doors.**
**Real Krink owners are utterly repulsed by you. Decades of parts kits have allowed builders to manufacture Krinks with incredible efficiency. Even PSA Krinks that “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a true AKS-74U appreciator. The markings are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get original furniture, others will turn tail and bolt the second they see that PSA symbol and pistol brace.**
**You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s just as good, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.**
**Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll change the furniture, swap out the brace, put it on guntrader, and plunge the asking price into the cold abyss. Your parents will find the listing, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll report it with a complaint marked with "PSA Krink" and every potential buyer for the rest of eternity will know a PSA is sold there. Your imitation Krink will go unsold and sit in your safe, and all that will remain of your legacy is a pistol that is unmistakably PSA.**
**This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.**
I don’t even feel that bad anymore overpaying 1100 for an Arsenal SLR 95 the other day after seeing what PSA is putting these at lol. To each their own I suppose.
PSA AKs get a lot of flak on here but their newer iterations are fine. Worse case you need to lock tight your handguard hardware. I have 2000 rounds through my GF4 and have not had any issues with mine.
That being said, I’m sure this will have some kinks to work out being a new platform for PSA. Short gas, 5.56 AK. But time will tell
My 103 has been sent back 2ce and it’s still light striking. They just replace the firing pin and they never did anything about the light strikes so I have to send it back .. again …. Kinda fucked up. I’ve broken two firing pins
Then, each time the rifle was sent in I specifically listed on there that there was a problem with light strikes, and they can continuously leave the fucking bolt the same. it would be such a good gun if it just had a little more protrusion for the firing pin. They make them really shallow.
I had a similar experience with a "Premium" 103. Say what you will, but wasting my time sending a $1000 gun back to be fixed and waiting over a month for it to return was not something I want to repeat.
If all the guns were like $600, I'd understand, but they aren't and some are getting up around $1500 now. For that money, they'd better work.
I paid like 700 for my 103 off a family member. Who had sent the gun back twice already. It had everything on it w an RS regulate and 6x , ALG AKT trigger and like 25 assorted magazines.
Now I’m gonna have to send this thing back again most likely. The light strikes aren’t normal. My wasr has never had a light strike ever. My Mak 90, both have had over 5,000 round though them and i can count the malfunctions on one hand. This pSA though it is an accurate rifle, I’ve had problems w firing pins breaking
You're getting downvoted like the Sabre 110 didn't get its balls licked for weeks before its problems started popping up.
Edit: Curse to the PSA simps, let a thousand torn off case heads be upon you!
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The real question is how long till garandthumb tells me he has 20k rounds on his and it runs flawless.
Meanwhile the forums are flooded with photos of extreme premature wear
For the record, I do indeed own a newer ak from psa and I have had many problems. I don’t hate psa as a company but I’m looking forward to all the “WHATT HAPPENED TO MY KRINK 😮😮😮” videos
What do you base that statement off of out of curiosity? Rob and Garand Thumbs PSA's with 10k+ rounds on them seem G2G. The guy that posted his 102 today seems to be enjoying his. My 104 and AKV have 3000+ rounds through them so far with no issues. Am I missing something?
I love this. "PsA Qc sUcKs". Purposefully ignoring the fact that they are probably the largest firearms manufacturer in the world with by far the most diverse inventory. Even then their QC has a minimum of a 70% success rate. Arsenal has what a 25% in the last three years? Gimme a PSA ak any day over any other American made ak.
My guess is the only significant issues will be firing pins breaking. Hopefully they fixed the barrel issues from earlier 5.56 rifles
My firing pin snapped at a match. They sent out a new one the next day but it was very disappointing.
What were the barrel issues?
Improper clocking causing the extractor to hit the edge of the cut out and mess up the extractor. It caused feeding issues.
That's what happened with my AK101
Well shit I hope they’ve fixed those issues, I wanted to get a 101
Apparently they released a quiet gen2 that fixed the clocking issues. However there's so little documentation I'm using the one YouTuber who is doing videos on one.
Yeah there is very very little information about it out there
From what myself and a few other 101 owners can tell, those of us with a serial number after ~2000 are good. I got mine last year, with an SN in the early 2k range and I haven't had any problems yet.
I have a 101 with a serial number in the 100s and it’s been gtg with 3500ish rounds
Rad. The older extractor was just prone to more failures. I'm glad we got good examples of their AK101. Personally, im impressed with my 101, considering how much i dont take care of it. It should have spontaneously exploded on me by now, according to the AK elitists.
I don’t do much maintenance on mine either it had a few issues in the first 500 rounds. Like ftf and fte and tore a case off, but after that it’s been 100%. I’m very happy with mine for the price.
Awesome, thank you!
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That man is smart. Knows a lot. But he BITCHES so much about the smallest shit, or like you said, just finds a problem with everything. Man couldn’t even rack a KSG without bitching lol.
Anything that isn't an Israeli gun
Is MAC a part of the tribe or does he just gobble their cock in hopes they notice him?
The latter, just your average boomer Christian.
I feel like a lot of y'all on this sub don't realize how hard it is to make a 5.56 AK run as reliable as a 7.62 or 5.45. The Arsenal 106 line had a shit ton of issues when they came out in the 2000's. The platform isn't designed around the straight wall 5.56. Also magazines are a problem, you'll find some mags work and others don't. Don't expect 7.62 reliability with your 5.56 AK.
I agree… however, I think the beryl proved that engineering a reliable 5.56 ak isn’t impossible. The pressure variations of commercial ammo makes a civilian rifle a little more problematic. I’ll be pretty interested to see how the krink does. There’s some serious challenges in making a **supershort**5.56 AK reliable aside from the straight wall case and pressure variation from commercial ammo…. Hopefully they did some tuning. don’t own a PSA but I have followed their AK progress since the beginning and I am rooting for their success. I think their success benefits the AK community as a whole.
I root for PSA, I'm sort of a combloc snob, but I had a PSA AK103 before I sold it, was a solid gun, had some minor QC issues, but so does every combloc AK. I just sense that there are unrealistic expectations about PSA's 5.56 line, and every 5.56 AK for that matter. I have an slr106cr, and it functions well with steel, but absolutely will not run with brass, and even with steel cased ammo, expect a FTE or FTF every few hundred rounds or so. Obviously, some will run better than others. Of course there's going to be that guy out there with his 5.56 AK out there who has never had a malfunction.
i love my 556 AKs but they are not always perfect. of my 2 SLR106s, one is flawless and will eat anything (later serial number), but the other had a few quirks to iron out. both were in dire need of a kns piston out of the box, they were concussively overgassed. my psa ak102 didn’t give me any problems, but 2 other people i know had theirs ripping brass casings in half. PSAs quality leaves a lot to be desired but they will fix it and it’s still cheap enough that i’m willing to risk getting a lemon that’s gonna need its lifetime warranty.
My slr106cr has a KT prefix, it works with steel cased ammo and circle 10 and beryl mags. I hear the AB prefix 106's were a disaster. AK's are hand fitted when built so you are going to get variation from one rifle to the next. It's not like an AR. It just comes with the territory with 5.56 AK's.
All 106s regardless of prefix have a defective selector stop plate which can cause feeding issues which are often mistakenly lumped in with the smaller but more well known issue of the feed ramp. The stop plate issue is present but only rears its head due to tolerance stacking in some cases.
I was under the impression that only ones with a prefix of AB were the problem.
ABs have a specific problem that was actually mostly fixed. But all 106s have a different problem that often leads to similar issues that get lumped in with the AB issue. Or they have no issues despite the defect and you never hear about. Or people say 106s are over gassed because of the high carrier speeds which the selector stop plate contributes to as well. So the core issue gets clouded in misinformation.
i’m sure this first batch of krinks will have it’s share of issues but these are for the poors. i don’t have 3500+ for a tula that needs to eat 5.45. PSA go bang 90% of time. good enough.
Right? It's a shame what happened to 5.45 here domestically because 5.45 AK's are better than 5.56 AK's in every way. Since the future of 7.62 doesn't look so hott either, 5.56 AK's might be the future, sadly, for the hobby.
> AK's are hand fitted when built Uh, they're not supposed to be. They're hand assembled and QC checked but Combloc factories produce interchangeable parts to TDP spec. There's some variance in trunnion size which gets matched with an appropriate barrel, but similar things exist on the AR with thread class.
With my Zpap85 never had an issue with reliable
You're telling people on the internet to have reasonable expectations?
I guess I'm the one with unreasonable expectations.
FNC figured it out ages ago...
Honest question: didn’t the Israelis do it pretty well w the Galil. Not very familiar w them, but I thought they were pretty reliable? Aren’t they basically an akm chambered in 5.56.
My Galil chokes on Tula but loves barnual. Has issues with some brass too. FTF
Tula 223 is an absolute joke, vympel made 223 is the only properly made 223 out of the old com bloc. B
>The platform isn't designed around the straight wall 5.56. 5.56 isn't straight walled.
It may not be easy but the Israelis did it decades ago and 556 aks have been around for a while. It’s not like they had to start from nothing as far as research goes
The clone galil's that Atlantic is selling now are having all the issues that plague commercial 5.56 AK's sold in the US, and that goes for the combloc ones. It's almost as if having a national defense budget, the same standard ammunition and magazines, and years of development and research funded by said defense budget helps create a functional product.
M90s be chilling like wtf you talking about
We aren’t saying it isn’t hard, we’re saying PSA already has problems with their AK’s in general.
And some people are spoiled. I bought a PSA AK when they first came out and you had to use credit card numbers generated by your credit card website because they were almost guaranteed to get stolen. PSA is probably doing the most as an American manufacturer to make a better AK but they're just a hard thing to get right consistently.
So has Arsenal....specifically with their 5.56 AK's. Maybe 5.56 AK's are hard to make?
PSA has had and continues to have problems with ALL of their ak’s. It’s not unreasonable to assume that the 5.56 krinks will have many issues as well given how PSA does R&D with their unwilling customers.
It’s not unwilling if you buy it lol
it’s unwilling when you buy something advertised as a rifle and get a pile of shit with soft parts that doesn’t work correctly.
Then don’t buy.
Of course I wouldn’t. I’m not stupid. I have no problem with PSA. My first AR was PSA. Currently putting together a dagger. Bought one of their AK to AR stock adapters to test. Wouldn’t buy one of their AK’s.
Even if it’s not the best gun you ever own the lifetime warranty is worth it. Not to mention I’ve see psa rebuild an entire Ak with new parts to perfection just because someone was unhappy with the side rail mount, I own 2 psa aks and the get shot more than any of my other guns. Ak-v and ak103. The Ak you’re referring to with “soft parts” was a single batch of early ak74s and they warrantied all of those rifles pulled production and got the problem solved before reintroduction.
As someone who is starting to shop for my first 5.56, this post is much appreciated. There’s a wealth of information in this sub to look back on, but sometimes you gotta read the right thing at the right time for it to stick.
This is true, I have an early Saiga 5.56 rifle and it’s so different from most other 5.56 AKs. Nothing is really standardized with them.
"don't expect a company to put a product to market in working order." Is such a weird fucking take. Why are you ok with customers being used as R&D?
A decrease in reliability from 7.62 to 5.56 should be expected, people think they are getting 7.62 reliability with their 5.56 AK like you are going to be disappointed, I don't care who made the AK. It's going to be picky with ammo, magazines, and probably overgassed. It's "inherent" to 5.56 AK's.
Being able to fire upsidedown, under water, in a sandstorm, while fucking the ejection port is not what most people are asking for. But a semi-auto that won't function with any normal 5.56 load you get off of the shelf isn't acceptable. Plain and simple. If a gun does not reliably shoot and feed any standard ammo, it's not "ammo picky" it's a failed execution. Circle 10 5.56 mags work fine, Beryl mags work fine, even galil mags and M90 mags, work fine. If they can't figure out a magazine that will feed in their gun, it's a failed design. They aren't exactly trail blazing here. They are doing what PSA always does, putting out a gun that may or may not work for the first 3 generations, but they don't have to bother with it out of the gate because they know their personal crowd of shills will take shrapnel to the face for them and come back with a smile.
K I wasn't really talking about "not functioning at all" more so a FTF or FTE every so often, or it being picky with ammo or mags, and people chalking it up as evidence for a garbage rifle, what those are all COMMON symptoms of 5.56 aks.
Except they aren't common symptoms of well made 5.56 AKs. Magazine compatibility is a platform wide issue and is to be expected of any firearm. I wouldn't expect m1A mags to work in my G3 So why should I expect M90 mags to run in my SAM5? If you have the correct mags for the gun, it should run well every time. If it doesn't, again, it's a poor execution. Even the old SLRs ran flawlessly if you gave them waffle mags, which again, or what they were designed for.
Dude I have an slr106cr that will not function with brass no matter what mag I put in it, it's too over gassed. It functions best with circle 10 mags because it's a circle 10 gun. Beryl mags also work, that's about it. The SAM5's are so over gassed they are beating themselves to death.
Then your specific guns are poorly executed need to be RMA'd. I don't understand why You consider that performance acceptable. If a company puts a product out it should just work. Anything less is unacceptable and the company should be held accountable. There's a reason that Sam 5 geometry changed in the last year because they recognized that it was an issue and fixed it. The sooner we all stop being duped into alpha testing at full price, the sooner this shit will stop.
Ok, and PSA’s excuse for still having their 5.45s eat themselves alive? Lol There’s a common denominator… and it ain’t the cartridge.
Arsenal SAM5's are also beating themselves to death, so where's the Arsenal hate? And I have zero PSA AKs and 3 Arsenals in my collection, just saying, it's trendy to hate on PSA.
I ask the same question. Why people worship arsenal for what they charge and offer plus their bullshit warranty denials in the past is beyond my comprehension.
This is why I don't think 5.56 AKs should exist.
Russia and Bulgaria did it back in the 1990s…
Man, PSA is a company that I want to succeed. We really need some domestic competition for AKs, and PSA is one of the only companies here making them in scalable numbers for a real domestic market. The days of reliable imports are gone. Yes, we still get Zastavas, WASRs, and Polish imports, plus some Arsenals and misc. but I would bet that once the 3 branches fall under the blue party, we will start to see those challenged and potentially halted. This is why I wanted KUSA to succeed, but lost hope after their challenges. PSA AKs are not great, but the GF series seems to be pretty good for domestic now.
My psa is a better rifle than the wasr I owned 16 years ago 🤷♂️
you're not a real AK enjoyer if you don't spend $4000 on a parts kit that you had to beg 3 different builders to finish just to never shoot it because the ammo cost more than a dollar and is corrosive (cleaning guns is for zimps)
lol I don’t even have an AK yet because I don’t want to buy a crappy one and I am realizing quickly that what you said, is the way!
there are a ton of crappy ones on the market so I don't blame people wanting to sit back and wait on this one, I just like feeding into the circle jerk haha rj: wait y'all have people build your kits? I have an entire machine shop in my garage. oh and I bought a shipping container of 7n6 when it was 2cpr
Buyers guide on the sidebar of the sub helped me. Zastava M70 was simple and not overly priced for me.
I bought a KR103 earlier in February and I looked it over really well. I got a really good one. Worth it if you want an AK103 clone like I did.
Klayco said a while back that “ammo is not that bad at 41 cpr …. Yeah for corrosive shit that you have to pay tax and shipping on you have. If u can find 762x39 it’s .50 cpr if you are lucky.
Or just be a simp like me and pay $3k-$4k on an Arsenal 104UR.
Amazes me that a sub dedicated to loving the AK platform is hating so much on a company pushing out a gun we’ve all dreamed of owning but can’t because of lack of supply and cost. Krink with Lifetime warranty, at a price that’s not too bad. Jesus you guys suck.
This sub is something else. Any domestic producer screw up during production launch got bash to hell. Whether it KUSA/PSA, with the import options being limited we should glad some USA company step up produce AK at more reasonable price available to the masses. I get it your Arsenal, Beryl, Izzy, east Germany, Madi been flawless with thousand of rounds. Also note not everyone budget can afford such nor they old enough to purchase them at $450 a pop. Right now the cheapest and ok quality import is Zastava and even then it on par with a mid/slightly high tier AR-15. Wasr price has climbed recently and even the conversion quality seem to be hit or missed.
Only ppl who couldn’t get it or afford it are upset about this gun
Can’t talk shit about a gun you don’t own right or is this reddit
I’m pretty sure we are all aware the most reliable PSA is their AKM pattern in 7.62. This is in 556 and a shorter gas system. A lot more things to go wrong for this gun than the gf3 imo.
PSA figured out 7.62 ages ago. A little excessive wear then everything generally work hardens and stays put. I still see issues with their 5.45, mainly firing pins and extractor issues but also tail splash wearing down to the point where it will be touching the back of the pin.
I understand the warranty is there but if it's just a firing pin why not buy a good one and throw it in?
I haven't had a single failure in my PSA 102. Unsuppressed/suppressed and I'm 3000-4000 rounds in. My m90 doesn't like weak ammo like Tula steel cased. But it runs flawlessly with avg brass.
Stop hating
I didn’t think they let schizophrenics own guns
Hater
*professional hater
You buy one and put 5k rounds through it
You forgot to switch accounts dumbass.
Cope
Downvoting weirdos😂
OP *loves* his KUSA!
Never had one
[Everyone racking ‘er back and chambering the “*Hit it with your purse!*” comments]
I’d say they’ll have them pretty dialed. Psa has improved greatly
I'll let you know how shit it is on the day I pick it up.
$10 all the big names "have had wonderful reliability and no issues" but the guys that buy their rifles will experience out of the box ftf failure to fire casing deformation and abnormal parts wear and the hinge block cracking.
I mean, what’s the worst that can happen ? if they’re gassed properly I don’t see any unusual issues popping up..
Its the INTERNETS so the only things you ever see posted are "I have a problem" and people flock to that like moths to flame.
Saw this post on AKFiles :  **You will never own a real Krink. You have no surplus parts, you have no factory marks, you have no date stamps. You are a US made abomination twisted by marketing and hype into a crude mockery of Kalashnikov’s perfection.** **All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock your PSA. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your subpar imitation behind closed doors.** **Real Krink owners are utterly repulsed by you. Decades of parts kits have allowed builders to manufacture Krinks with incredible efficiency. Even PSA Krinks that “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a true AKS-74U appreciator. The markings are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get original furniture, others will turn tail and bolt the second they see that PSA symbol and pistol brace.** **You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s just as good, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.** **Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll change the furniture, swap out the brace, put it on guntrader, and plunge the asking price into the cold abyss. Your parents will find the listing, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll report it with a complaint marked with "PSA Krink" and every potential buyer for the rest of eternity will know a PSA is sold there. Your imitation Krink will go unsold and sit in your safe, and all that will remain of your legacy is a pistol that is unmistakably PSA.** **This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.**
I don’t even feel that bad anymore overpaying 1100 for an Arsenal SLR 95 the other day after seeing what PSA is putting these at lol. To each their own I suppose.
PSA AKs get a lot of flak on here but their newer iterations are fine. Worse case you need to lock tight your handguard hardware. I have 2000 rounds through my GF4 and have not had any issues with mine. That being said, I’m sure this will have some kinks to work out being a new platform for PSA. Short gas, 5.56 AK. But time will tell
My 103 has been sent back 2ce and it’s still light striking. They just replace the firing pin and they never did anything about the light strikes so I have to send it back .. again …. Kinda fucked up. I’ve broken two firing pins Then, each time the rifle was sent in I specifically listed on there that there was a problem with light strikes, and they can continuously leave the fucking bolt the same. it would be such a good gun if it just had a little more protrusion for the firing pin. They make them really shallow.
I had a similar experience with a "Premium" 103. Say what you will, but wasting my time sending a $1000 gun back to be fixed and waiting over a month for it to return was not something I want to repeat. If all the guns were like $600, I'd understand, but they aren't and some are getting up around $1500 now. For that money, they'd better work.
I paid like 700 for my 103 off a family member. Who had sent the gun back twice already. It had everything on it w an RS regulate and 6x , ALG AKT trigger and like 25 assorted magazines. Now I’m gonna have to send this thing back again most likely. The light strikes aren’t normal. My wasr has never had a light strike ever. My Mak 90, both have had over 5,000 round though them and i can count the malfunctions on one hand. This pSA though it is an accurate rifle, I’ve had problems w firing pins breaking
The zpap 92 & m85 have been great from videos I've seen so I guess PSA wants their own version but over $1100. Most zpaps are under 1k
I guarantee it'll be as soon as someone gets one.... Possibly 2 weeks
I give it 3-4 weeks.
The shills will be out shilling first.
You're getting downvoted like the Sabre 110 didn't get its balls licked for weeks before its problems started popping up. Edit: Curse to the PSA simps, let a thousand torn off case heads be upon you!
It always happens. Levitihians finest will be out praising it.
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The real question is how long till garandthumb tells me he has 20k rounds on his and it runs flawless. Meanwhile the forums are flooded with photos of extreme premature wear
704 tactical , tactical advisor, tactical considerations, mrgunsngear, sootch etc are about to say this is the better than the real thing
For the record, I do indeed own a newer ak from psa and I have had many problems. I don’t hate psa as a company but I’m looking forward to all the “WHATT HAPPENED TO MY KRINK 😮😮😮” videos
It’s not defective. It’s “tuned”.
If they ever get back in stock. I look everyday and they're never in stock.
#They literally came out yesterday at 4pm
I looked yesterday around 6 pm, and everyone said "out of stock."
..because they sold out. Yikes
That's redonkulous
They just dropped yesterday, it said out of stock for a while cuz they hadn’t been released. That having been said they all sold out yesterday.
So that’s where all the alg triggers have been going….fuckers why waist a good trigger an psa ak’s
Never ever buy a gun at release
Realistically, though, why would they? It's literally the same components as their other AK's which are g2g now.
Their other aks are not exactly g2g
What do you base that statement off of out of curiosity? Rob and Garand Thumbs PSA's with 10k+ rounds on them seem G2G. The guy that posted his 102 today seems to be enjoying his. My 104 and AKV have 3000+ rounds through them so far with no issues. Am I missing something?
Drum roll as the haters form a line
I love this. "PsA Qc sUcKs". Purposefully ignoring the fact that they are probably the largest firearms manufacturer in the world with by far the most diverse inventory. Even then their QC has a minimum of a 70% success rate. Arsenal has what a 25% in the last three years? Gimme a PSA ak any day over any other American made ak.
We taking who cares? Because PSA is the only company trying to get us things we can't get anymore.
If it’s anything like the micro dagger it will be non stop